snagged the president. should have vacuumed the podium instead of the red carpet. you can put your shoes back on. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. that was one speedy spider, right? thanks for joining us, anderson starts now. good evening. the president of the united states says if a foreign government came offering election help this time around, and i'm quoting, i think i'd want to hear it. he said. in other words, the central point of the mueller report a foreign adversary including russia seeking to influence american democracy, the man who took an oath to defend it says he's okay with that, and says his fbi director thinks otherwise is wrong. and vladimir putin's help, fine by him, apparently. he says it's done all of the time, just normal opposition research says president trump. history says otherwise. it is not done all of the time or some of the time. it is not normal and as all of this comes at the end of the day full of other breaking news including new reporting on the

president's, forts to investigate the investigators and in addition to that tonight, hope hick, a long time campaign aid, and one-time member of the president's inner circle has agreed to testify before the house judiciary committee. the question will be will the white house try to stop her from talking about what she saw and heard which might have been plenty during her time in the west wing. so that's just ahead along with my conversation with presidential candidate bernie sanders on a very important day for his campaign. we'll talk about all of that, but we'll start with what he told george stephanopoulos about foreign meddling. >> your campaign this time, foreigner f russia, china, offers you information should they accept it or should they call the fbi? >> i think maybe you do both. i think you might want to listen. nothing wrong with listening. if someone called from a country, norway, we have information on your opponent. oh, i think i'd want to hear it. >> you want that kind of interference in elections. >> it's not an interference.

they have information. i think i'd take it, if i thought there was something wrong i'd go maybe to the fbi if i thought there was something wrong, but when someone comes up with upper research and they come up with upper research, oh let's call the fbi and you talk honestly to congressmen. they all do it and always have and that's the way it is. it's called opp ore search. >> claiming that's just the way it's done. author of "facts and fears. hards truths from the life of intelligence." director clapper, is this just the way it's done? >> it certainly isn't, anderson. i've run out of adjectives to react or describe a reaction to this. incredible, amazing, stunning and disturbing that the president would advocated use of accepting information provided by a foreign country, notably, a

foreign adversary and in doing so completely overlooking the fact that this could well be, probably would be disinformation, in other words, completely phony, and to endorse that and then in doing so endorse undercut the fbi and its director is just incredible and i can't get over the duplicity of it. here is the criticism about the infamous dossier and, you know, you can't use it because it's non-valid. you can't accept it and in this case, well, you know, it's okay and we're looking into the future here and we're not talking about the past. he made great points about that. >> i'm reminded of when candidate struc candidate trump said russia, if you're out there, and the hillary clinton 30,000 e-mails and we know from the mueller report that hours later, you

know, hackers, russian hackers made attempts. it's essentially kind of echoing that again. it's basically a clarion call, saying if a country came to me again i'd listen to it. >> the russians are doing -- they're going to repeat what they did in 2016. they're going to repeat it in 2020 and now what president trump has done is encouraging them to do so. again, it's just -- it's -- it's stunning. >> yeah. again, you know, people just kind of roll their eyes at this point and it bears repeating this is not normal behavior of a president. i'm not even sure he -- i'm not sure if he understands or doesn't care what the ramifications of this are, but if any other president had said anything resembling this, you know, republicans in congress would have understandably, you know, called him a traitor.

>> anderson, can you imagine if barack obama, if he were still president somehow said something like that? the republicans would be going nuts over this. it's, you know, it's -- hard to describe. >> the president saying that the fbi director is wrong on this, and chris wray is the man he appointed. again, if you're christopher wray, how do you react to this tonight? because again, this goes against, he's saying don't -- he said maybe i would -- you know, i'd get the information and then maybe call the fbi. in other parts of this interview he talks about how he's never called the fbi for anything, maybe he's kicked people out of his office, but that he would never pick up the phone and call the fbi. >> i'm not surprised that he never called the fbi. that's not a startling revelation. yeah. he just said flat out chris wray is wrong, and chris wray is not

wrong. there are legal implications here and if you get information provided by a foreign nation state, particularly if it's coming from the likes of an adversary like china and russia, to me, first duty is call the fbi. >> the -- if the -- if a foreign government reached out to an american citizen and someone said they were of chinese intelligence or a chinese think tank and reached out to an american citizen, you know, asking for documents or willing to give some documents for, you know, some sort of a contact, if that american citizen didn't contact the fbi they could get in trouble. >> well, they could. i mean, depending on the circumstance that could easily happen, yeah. >> what do you think this sends? what message does this send to foreign governments, do you think, like russia? i mean, we talked about this a little bit, but essentially you

really believe this sends a message to them that go ahead, the gates are open for 2020 and i'm open for business on this. >> oh, exactly. this simply encourages them to do something they're going to do anyway and by the way, and the revelations and level of detail in the mueller report which the russians clearly had already gone to school on will be harder to detect what they're doing. >> and now they have the president essentially encouraging the russians to continue to do what they did in 2016. >> general clapper, appreciate it. thank you very much. we had a problem with the mike at the end and i apologize for that. joining us legal analyst laura coates and senior political columnist pete sav columnist david gergen, were you surprised that the president would say this given all that

has happened thus far? >> shocked, but not surprised. this has become standard fare unfortunately for our president. listen, anderson. what one needs to do is distinguish and laura can elaborate on this, but law fare which is an online publication that's highly respected had an analysis of the law regarding this and it makes a distinction, if you're on a campaign and you receive information from the russians and you're not a member of the government it is unclear if you're obligated, but if you're in the government with clearance and someone approaches you with this especially an adversarial, and you have an affirmative obligation and it would be breaking the law not to call them and that suggests how serious this is. listen, i've never heard of any president before this when even

talked to the russians. i've never even heard of any staffer talking to the russians and it was owe out of bounds it's imaginable and the fact that we're talking about this is surprising. >> on the subways in new york there are signs in new york if you see something, say something. we want citizens to call the police if they even, you know, suspect something. what message does this send? >> well, i mean, let's be fair. the president said he would listen, but he would also send it to the fbi. he said he would do both. the question is whether he should do both or simply refuse to get the information. but he did say he would turn it over to the fbi. >> he said maybe. >> and initially he did point out he's never, you know, never picked up the phone for something like that, and nobody ever would and congress people don't do it and that chris wray is wrong, that you should pick up the phone. >> the president throws maybe,

he has -- as we all do, he has filler words that we throw out there that don't mean what they say like, i think. so i took the president for his word that he would do both which i think, i don't think that's necessarily inappropriate as long as he refers it to the fbi as well far as looking at the information, maybe he should and maybe she shouldn't and i don't think it's a crime in looking at the information as long as you refer it to the proper authorities. >> laura, is this appropriate? if he looks at it and then decides to call the fbi? >> you know, i get that the president of the united states is going the route, i haven't committed the crime, but if i had the opportunity to do so perhaps i would think about it because that's what happens in the real world is extraordinarily dangerous here. there are laws on the books that say members of a foreign government, foreign nationals cannot interfere with the american electoral system. more than that, anderson, they are very clear that an american

citizen including in a campaign cannot solicit information from a foreign national or foreign government for the purpose of doing so. so all of this comes down to the idea that look, if you're actively trying to get information opposition research or however you want to coin the phrase to try to get a campaign contribution of sorts, that he would otherwise have to pay for, that violates the law. the idea here that the president is saying, well, you know what? everyone is doing it so i should be able to, as well and in the real world we would not prosecute this. we have a whole body of campaign contributors who would talk about this. i get rick santorum what you would talk about that the laws have not been so well defined to what it means to be a contribution, but at the bare minimum, you cannot solicit from a foreign government anything like this and in many ways this sounds just like wikileaks part two, solicitation of those e-mails.

>> you're introducing a bunch of facts that george stephanopoulos never said. he never asked if he was soliciting and they're saying if they came to you. if someone came to you and said you have some dirt and he was talking cloakially, and he is often imprecise and that's why he didn't want to be interviewed with bob mueller because he can ram bell and talk about things more loosely and he was talking more in a general, political context and we get opposition research all of the time and you get opposition research in the campaign and you don't call the fbi. i have folks who threw information at me and all of my campaigns and i didn't call the fbi. >> did you get it from russia or norway? >> if i knew that that information was coming from a foreign service. >> that's not what the president said. he said he would. he said he would do both. >> rick, the overall context

that george stephanopoulos is what donald trump jr. did. remember that phrase. if it's what you say it is i love it and wanted more information about what was going to happen. it is a fine line and for me as smoon who honors the executive branch of government and the president of the united states is there to ebb force the law that's part of his duty and the skirting the fine line, if you'd like to give it to me it's a quick turn. >> i have to get a break in. we'll pick up this conversation after a short break and we'll continue this, it's important and you'll hear for yourself the president of the united states more of what he said to george stephanopoulos about his own hand-picked fbi director and bernie sanders and the 2020 presidential candidate and bernie sanders will be joining us as well.

president trump says he thinks he'd accept help from a foreign government if he were re-elected and then he would call the fbi. in his interview with george stephanopoulos he seemed skeptical and here's what he said when don junior was offered content from the russian government and the e-mail he got for floating the idea. >> okay. put yourself in a position. you're a congressman and somebody comes up and says, hey, i have information on your opponent, do you call the fbi?

>> from a foreign government you do. >> i don't think in my whole life i've ever called the fbi. in my whole life. you throw somebody out of your office and -- >> al gore got a stolen briefing book, he called the fbi. >> that's different, a stolen briefing book. this is someone that said we have information on your opponent. oh, let me call the fbi. give me a break. life doesn't work that way. >> the fbi director says that's what should happen. >> the fbi director is wrong. >> back now with laura coates and rick santorum and david gergen. it seems pretty clear in that that he's saying if he was don junior or what don junior did was totally appropriate not to call the fbi even though he was approached by someone saying they were representing the russian government. >> i'm afraid that is what he said. listen, i do think rick santorum -- i agree with him on one significant point and if you're sitting in a campaign and someone who says i have dirt on

your opponent no matter who it is, you'll probably read it. the problem is what you do with the information that you receive and who you receive it from and on that i -- anybody who thought about this the first thing they would do is call a lawyer for the organization they're working for and say what is the right thing to do with this bombshell i've just received? you know, i went through this way back when in the carter versus reagan race of 1980. we got a briefing book that just appeared over the transcript that belonged to the other side and when we found out more about it we just called the fbi and we wanted to make sure our skirts were clean and that's the best position you're in, but i disagree strongly on the idea that he didn't mean maybe. president trump has a long history of creating loopholes for himself. he'll say something, but then he'll create a loophole that will give him a way out and maybe he's essentially saying well, maybe i might want to keep

it. after all, i got the first load of dirt against hillary and if i sit here with it maybe they'll bring me a second load. it becomes part of of a practice and underhanded and it's what undermines our democracy ultimately. >> the first response from the president is don junior gets a call on this and he'll call the fbi and i don't think so, and no congressman would do that. that's his gut reaction and it's only later on in the conversation that maybe he in his mind is saying maybe i shouldn't have said that, and that he throws in a maybe. first up, donald trump junior said he didn't know for sure if it was the russian government. >> he didn't know. the e-mail said it is from the russian government. >> a lot of people say a lot of things and it's certainly not anybody recognizable with the russian government and so someone says hey -- i guess the point that i think president trump is making is, if you get something that someone sort of alleges you'll probably take a look at it and if it looks like this is a serious issue, which,

of course, it turned out not to be then maybe you take it to the fbi, but going to the fbi because someone and this is what i think the president was saying because something claimed something from something without evidence to back it up, you probably don't do that right away. >> yeah. >> david? >> i think -- yeah, i just want to say one brief thing. it's worth remembering the context. this was a campaign that was already talking to the russians about creating a back channel from if they get elected, a back channel from the white house directly to moscow to be able to go around all of the authorities and all of the intelligence agencies and the fbi and everybody else. this is not a team that cash ail casually looked at something like this and they were trying to create a system outside of the system. >> go ahead, laura. >> let me give further context here. you're essentially saying that someone comes to you and says hey, i've got this really nice lamborghini. do you want to have a joyride with me and you say who among us would not get into a car that

probably is stolen at that point in time? the president of the united states and someone running for the president of the united states should not actively pursue the joyride or astute enough to know that he's been named individual number one in an fdny filing about campaign financing and campaign contributions about trying -- >> obviously, she froze there. rick santorum, does -- you, yourself though very clearly said if this were you you would call the fbi. >> look, if i got information that -- yeah. i think the president, if you look at the totality of what he said, i am a little uncomfortable with the fact that he seems to give the intimation that it may be okay to not call the fbi when you get information for government. >> chris wray is wrong when he says call the fbi. >> chris wray was wrong with

respect to his son donald trump jr., and i could be wrong, but that's the way i read this transcript. what i read is just the appearance that the president is giving that it may be okay to solicit and not solicit, but to take information and to read it is -- i just think the president maybe should walk that back a little bit and say, look, i would read it, but i would share it with the fbi is the right answer. >> announcing you're ready to receive information is kind of -- it's kind of soliciting. yeah. >> it's not a good idea. >> senator santorum, always appreciate it. bernie sanders is running for the presidential nomination as a democratic socialist and today george washington university just blocks from the white house and he made a case that all three labels draw, in fact, on a single progressive tradition, one that fits this moment in time and this particular president. listen. >> it is my very strong belief that the united states must reject that path of hatred and

divisiveness, and instead find the moral conviction to choose a different path, a higher path, and a path of compassion, justice and love. [ applause ] and that is the path that i call democratic socialism. today in the second decade of the 21st century, we must take up the unfinished business of the new deal and carry it to completion. [ applause ] this is the unfinished business of the democratic party and the vision we, together, must accomplish.

>> tonight we'll explore the implications of that, the cost of taking up the unfinished business as well as the price to be paid for not trying and let's welcome 2020 bernie sanders. senator sanders, thank you for being with us. i want to talk about your speech and this idea of the 21st century economic bill of rights which is what you were focusing on today and very quickly, just your reaction to what the president told george stephanopoulos that he would take a look at opposition research or anything offered from a foreign government and even an adversary and then maybe call the fbi. >> well, anderson, to tell you the truth, i am not exactly shocked. i think we have a president who neither understands the constitution of the united states or respects the constitution. somebody that does not believe in the separation of powers and somebody who thinks he's above the law. i mean, that is why i believe the house should begin impeachment inquiries on trump. so, no, i'm not shocked. >> what changed your mind on

beginning impeachment inquiries? because it is -- it is something of an evolution for you. >> no, not really. i'm not here to tell you that we should impeach trump. in fact, i don't even know that there are the votes in the house to impeach him and i doubt very much there are the votes in the senate that could get him, you need two-thirds of the senate, 67 vote, but i certainly think that the american people need to understand what this president has done, his contempt for the law, and i think that is the process we undertake when we begin an impeachment inquiry. >> in the speech today, you talk about the 21st century economic bill of rights and you harken back to fdr and or kind of pitching this as a continuation of fdr's legacy and even martin luther king jr. can you, plain how this is pertinent to a vision of do democratic socialism? >> absolutely. back in 1944, in a

little-remembered state of the union speech. it was the end of world war ii and roosevelt said, look, we have a bill of rights in this country and we have a constitution. i'm paraphrasing him, which says we have all kinds of great right, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion and all of that is great and what we don't have is an economic bill of rights and we don't guarantee a decent standard of living to all people and that's all he said and he died a year later and that mantel has never been picked up. so what i am saying today is that are we truly free and this is in a sense what roosevelt was saying and if you're going out and you're working 70 or 80 hours a week because of the wages you're living and working under are starvation wages and are you free if you can't afford to go to the doctor in the weightiest country in the history of the world and you get sicker or maybe you die because you can't afford health

insurance. are you free if you are a young, bright person, but you can't afford to go to college or you leave school 50 or $100,000 in debt? are you free if you're sleeping out on the street tonight? anderson, half a million americans including many veterans are sleeping out on the street tonight. so what i am saying, picking up from roosevelt, that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world now is the time to finally state that economic rights are human rights, that everybody in this country deserves a job, a decent pay and that health care is a human right, that a full education is a human right. a clean environment is a human right. affordable housing is a human right. retirement security and we got millions of old people and senior citizens in this country who literally cannot afford the prescription drugs they desperately need. >> you are leaning into democratic socialism. obviously everyone has known you're a democratic socialist.

you are clearly trying to sort of explain what your view of what that means to, you know, an american population and many people who hear the socialism part and maybe want the democratic part and you know president ultimately will be yelling venezuela to you as much as possible. >> that's exactly the point and the other point that i made today is that, in fact, people like donald trump are also socialists except they are corporate socialists. they are prepared and do provide hundreds of billions of dollars every single year in subsidies, and tax breaks to large corporations and the wealthy. anderson, you will remember very well the wall street bailout and wall street is the eshlgs ppito unfettered capitalism except when the greed and behavior nearly destroyed the economy.

they went begging and they said we need help, give us $700 billion from the treasury and trillions of dollars in low-interest loans from the federal reserve. you got the fossil fuel industry today which is literally destroying the planet and they get billions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks. you have amazon owned by the wealthiest person in this country, jeff bezos made $11 billion last year and that's what amazon made in profits. they didn't pay a nickel in federal income taxes. donald trump himself as part of his housing endeavors received tens and tens of millions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks. so you do have socialism in this country except as martin luther king reminded us, it's individualism for the poor. >> we will take a quick break and i want to continue it conversation.

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we're talking to senator bernie sanders tonight about embracing the label that they treat as an epithet socialist and in this case democratic socialist which they sought to weave as a progressive tapestry tracing back to the new deal before. he also cited franklin roosevelt to open scorn for government organized by money as fdr called it seeming to welcome as fdr did at the time the attacks on him that have already begun.

here's president trump at a republican fund-raiser in iowa last night painting democrats as angry and extreme. >> the democrat party has never been angrier. they're so angry. have you ever seen people so angry? for what? for what? these are angry people. every day the democrat party is becoming more and more unhinged and more and more extreme. they're going crazy. do you love it? i sort of love it. >> back now with senator sanders. you talked today in your speech about compassion, justice and love as sort of the hallmarks of how you see leadership and your leadership. you know how the president's going to paint your talk to democratic socialism besides venezuela. is -- do enough americans know what you mean by that and what that actually looks like?

>> well, anderson, that's why i'm on your show tonight. >> that's why i'm asking you. >> look, what we have to understand, for example, just for example, the united states is the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people as a right. in many countries in europe, germany, for one, you go to college and the cost of college is zero. i think in finland they actually pay you to go to college. in most countries around the world the level of income and wealth inequality which in the united states today is worse than in any time since the 1920s with three families owning more wealth than the bottom half of america and that level of income and wealth in, quality is much less severe than it is right here in the united states. >> but as you know, the taxes in many of those countries are much higher than they are in individual and personal tax are much higher than they are in the united states. >> yeah, but i suspect a lot of

people in the country would be delighted to pay more in taxes if they had comprehensive health care as a human right. i live 50 miles away from the canadian border. you go to the doctor any time you want. you don't take ought your wallet. you have heart surgery, you have a heart transplant and you come out of the hospital and it costs you nothing. your kids in many countries around the world can go to the public colleges and universities tuition-free and wages in many cases are higher. so there is a tradeoff, but at the end of the day, i think, that most people will believe they will be better off when their kids have educational opportunities without out-of-pocket out-of-pocket expenses and when they have healthcare as a human right and they have affordable housing, decent retirement security and most americans will understand that that is a good deal. >> when somebody is looking at you as a candidate, when someone is looking at senator elizabeth warren as a candidate and both progressive candidates and polls

are trailing elizabeth warren and it's ridiculous to look at polls at this stage of a primary battle, but she does not have the label democratic socialist. you do. is it a liability? >> i don't think so and i'll tell you why. look, i certainly have known elizabeth for many, many years. >> she says she's a capitalist. >> i know, and i know many of the other candidates who are in my view knowing them personally, well intentioned and decent people want to do the right thing and here's the point i want to make. one of the reasons that so many americans are dispirited about the political process is they hear candidates come forward say i want to do this and i want to do that, but nothing happens and the reason for that is not that that the candidates are lying. it is, we have to deal with the reality that we don't talk about too much and that is the power structure of america, the fact that the folks on wall street in the drug companies, in the insurance companies, in the

military industrial complex in the fossil fuel industry have so much power that no president e alone, not me, not anybody else can do it alone, and that is why i talk about us, not me in our campaign. why i talk about a political revolution. if you want to transform our energy system and you want to combat climate change, words are not good enough. we have to bring millions of people together to tell the fossil fuel industry they will not continue to destroy this planet. you want medicare for all? you're going to have to stand up to the insurance companies. you want to cut the cost of prescription drugs in half which is what i think we should do, you're going to have to stand up to the incredibly wealthy and powerful pharmaceutical industry. >> and you're going to have to get it through congress. >> you'll have to get it through congress, but you're not going to get it through congress when lobbyists and big-money interests control congress. the only way that real change

ever takes place, anderson, now and in the past, is when millions of people stand up and are prepared to fight for that. and if anybody tells you that they're going to bring about real change in this country and they'll sit down in capitol hill and negotiate, this and that they're not being quite honest because you're going to have to take on wall street, and all of these other powerful special interests and the only way that change happens, whether it is the civil rights movement and the women's movement, the gay movement and the labor movement and the only way it happens is when people stand up and fight. what this campaign is about is to bring home this mass, and i am very proud that we have a million volunteers. >> senator sanders, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> i'll talk to a key member of the oversight committee about the president thinks he would

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breaking news from the top of the hour. president trump's interview with abc news. the president saying, quote, i think i'd want to hear it, unquote, if a foreign government offered information on his 2020 opponents. joining me is jerry connolly which they voted to hold attorney general barr and wilbur ross in contempt of congress over the contentious proposal to include a citizenship question in the 2027 census. congressman connolly, your reaction to what the president said being open for business to what he terms opposition research whether it's from russia, china or some foreign power? >> i think the president has re-opened the whole question of collusion in the gated two years' of denial of collusion. he is fond of saying no collusion, no collusion and no collusion and today he said i would welcome collusion. i would gladly accept opposition

research or analysis by a foreign power against one of my political opponents. that's the very definition of collusion, anderson. >> opposition research might be diss informatio disinformation and damaging information that could be damaging to an opponent. some are calling for impeachment proceedings to begin. do these comments from the president, does that warrant or change your mind in any way? does it affect it? does it warrant it? >> it certainly affects it, and it pushes us further and further in that direction. we have a process that's under way. you mentioned in the intro our committee voted for contempt citations for secretary wilbur ross and the attorney general mr. barr on a different issue, the citizenship question, but across the board, i think the walls are collapsing on mr. trump, and i think he's helping the process, ironically, with comments like he made today.

so i think there's almost an inexorable move toward impeachment and i think we have to let this process sort itself out, but he is certainly making it much more difficult for himself. >> in terms of that contempt vote today, what happens now? >> well, i think we go to court. we passed yesterday on the floor a resolution that basically empowers committee chairmen like ours, elija cummings, the chairman of the oversight and reform committee to go directly to court to enforce the subpoena, so hopefully that short circuits the process and it doesn't completely solve the problem of the time lapse in court, but again, i think it makes it more imminent and more real for those who were subpoenaed and facing this contempt citation. >> could the department of justice work out a deal before this moves to a court fight? because they were able to reach an agreement with the doj.

yes, and they did in the face of a contempt citation. so, yeah, i think that's possible. so far the administration led by the attorney general and led by secretary russ has basically thumbed its nose at our request and they produced 17,000 documents most of which were heavily redacted and redundant and they've been entirely responsive and not a single document in response to the very specific request we made with regard to the citizenship question. >> congressman connolly, i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure, anderson. >> former white house aide hope hicks has agreed to do on capitol hill next. and with new features and richer stories... ...it can show dad where he's from... and strengthen the bonds you share. it's only $59 at ancestry.com. give it to dad for father's day.

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some more breaking news tonight. hope hicks, who emerged as one of president trump's most

trusted aides during the campaign and of course later in the white house has agreed to testify a week from today behind closed doors in front of the house judiciary committee. it the the first case where a member of the president's inner circle will appear before the committee's investigation into potential obstruction of justice by president trump. caitlan collins joins us now from the white house. it's hard to overstate how close hope hicks was to the president and how much information she knows. the likely question, what can she say and what will she say and is the white house going to try to stop it. >> reporter: as you noted, not only was she one of his top aides, she was also one of his closest confidants, closer than anyone else when she was working here in the west wing. also remember she was there during every step of the campaign, anderson. as you noted, she's the first member of the president's inner circle to go before this committee. she testified before when she admitted what she said were white lies on behalf of the president. >> there is a good chance she

might not answer many of the committee's questions, right? >> yeah, there is. it remains to be seen what kind of privilege the white house is going to assert over what she's going to say. they will have a chance to say that likely with some of her conversations during her time in the white house. if it goes back to the campaign they can't likely assert executive privilege like they would here in the white house. that seem is essentially going to be fair game for these lawmakers. now, of course, what is going to happen here still remains to be seen. it will be behind closed doors but i should note we are going to get a transcript of what goes on behind those closed doors. >> and she still has a relationship with the president. they're still close, aren't they? >> it's not the same relationship based on what they had before. when she was here and the president could holler out for her from the oval office. the relationship has changed, we've been told by sources. so that's what makes this interesting, yes, she's still considered in the inner circle but certainly not as close as she was when she was working just feet away from the oval

office. >> is she working for the gop or trump re-election or anything? >> no, right now she's not working for the campaign, that we know of. she does has this new job at fox. she's been doing public relations for them. what we've been told from people who remained in contact with her, essentially after she left the white house after not only her time here coming under such scrutiny, but also the relationship with rob porter who had to leave over the spousal abuse allegations, she really wanted to distance herself from trump world. she's one of the most recognized people from this administration and from the president's world so it's pretty hard to do that. >> yeah, kaitlan collins at the white house. kaitlan, thank you. up next, what lawmakers did on capitol hill today for sick and dying first responders less than 24 hours after getting a scolding from jon stewart.

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i want to give you an update on a story we reported tuesday. a house panel that got an earful from jon stewart approved legislation to boost money for a fund that will help 9/11 first responders tuesday. stewart appeared with first responders and publicly shamed congress, some of them absent, for having to do this yet again. >> your indifference cost these men and women their most valuable commodity, time. it's the one thing they're running out of. >> well, the bill now has to

pass the full house then the senate. at a news conference yesterday, republican senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said we've always dealt with that in the past in a compassionate way and i assume we will again. news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> all right. anderson, thank you very much. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." the president said out loud on video tonight there is nothing wrong with taking dirt from russia on an opponent and he's open to doing so in 2020. he's also bucking his own fbi director about disclosing any foreign interference. so much for all those denials about any willingness to enable interference. we're going to get reaction in a moment from a candidate vying to go up against president trump next year. senator michael bennet from colorado is here. now another question, do admissions like this from the president provide even more ammo for impeachment? we're going to ask former democratic party leader howard dean. and is anyone really