. welcome to "inside politics." i'm jop king. thank you for sharing your day with us. remarkable comments from president trump. he says he sees nothing wrong with listening if a foreign government offers dirt on a political opponent, and he says his fbi director is wrong when he says any campaign should quickly report such conduct to law enforcement. plus, bernie sanders under friendly fire today. several of the more moderate 2020 democratic contenders say the democratic socialist brand promoted by senator sanders is a recipe to re-elect president trump. and the president takes a personal interest in a new look

for air force one. >> here's your new air force one, and i'm doing that for other presidents, not for me. >> everyone wants to know, is there a pod? >> you seen the movie air force one? >> there's a pod that flies out of the back? >> oh, i see. i can tell you -- there are a couple of secrets that i don't think we're supposed to tell you. anyway, there it is if you want. >> we begin the hour with head-spinning comments by the president of the united states. his matter of fact admissions when push comes to shove he would at least listen to foreign powers peddling dirt on his rivals. >> if russia or china or someone else offers you information on an opponent, should you accept it and call the fbi? >> i think you do both. i think you might want to listen. there's nothing wrong with listening. if somebody called from a country, norway, we have information on your opponent,

oh, i think i would want to hear it. >> you want that kind of interference in our elections? >> it's not interference. they have information. i think i'd take it. if i think there was something wrong i think i'd go maybe to the fbi. >> well, so much for america first. the president telling abc yesterday he does not care where that information comes from. democrats this morning unified in their outrage. >> what the president said last night shows clearly once again over and over again that he does not know the difference between right and wrong, and that's probably the nicest thing i can say about him. there is no sense of, what's the word i want to find, any ethical sense that informs his comments and his thinking. >> republicans with few exceptions silent looking to change the subject or talking in circles. senator lindsey graham one of the exceptions. >> that's not the right answer. if a foreign government comes to

you as a public official and offers to help your campaign giving you anything of value, whether it's money or information on your opponent, the right answer is no. >> but the president today unmoved by any suggestion what he said is wrong, immoral or illegal. on twitter they what he always does when he faces criticism, stirring up a storm meant to distract and confuse. in one tweet he conflated the normal business of being president and meeting with foreign heads of state with welcoming ill-gotten info from foreign spies but stop and think about the president's words again. quote, they have information, i think i'd take it. here with me to sharing their reporting, margaret taloc, paul cain with "the washington post" and politico's lauren barone lopez. i almost don't know what to say after the last two-plus years of what the country has been through, why? just why? does he just think -- there are laws, number one. you cannot take in-kind

contributions from foreign nationals, and plus there's just what the country has been through for the last two years, an even if you're president trump and even if you believe you were wrongly accused and this was a witch hunt and this was a hoax, i think i'd take it, i don't think there's anything wrong with it? >> yeah. the story in 2016 was somewhere between we didn't do anything and well, you know, we were just a new campaign, like there was no coordination. we were just trying to figure out, whatever. this is different. president has been in office for two and a half years and had multiple briefings and a very long and involved investigation and lots of meetings with counsel and whether he wanted to or not, he now knows more and has spent more time thinking about what you are and are not supposed to do during election season in terms of getting information from other countries than probably must most new presidents have thought about. it seemed like a pretty deliberate statement on his part, and we're not talking about norway. we also know that. >> yeah. >> so there's a few implications

for this. number one, it sounds like an invitation for other countries to send intelligence directly to trump and bypass >> which he did as a candidate. had a news conference where he said russia, if you've got it, bring it on. >> yes. there are intelligence channels if an ally of the united states, someone like britain had information about an american political candidate who they felt was a security threat, there are channels by which they would communicate to the united states government about that. the channel would not place a call to the president or his son or his campaign manager or something like that. so what -- what the president said seemed deliberate. seemed like he understood what he was saying and said it anyway and that's there's so much cons flakes inside his party, by the way, as well as some democrats. >> some of what the republican reflex is when the president does something like this. i'm sorry, what the president of the united states said sitting at his desk in the oval office even to add insult to injury.

is it not un-american? >> sends a strong signal to foreign adversaries but others like russia and china and to me this is stronger than what he said in the lead-up to the 2016 election because he's saying he wouldn't report it to the fbi. >> or he might but he'd listen first. >> depending on how good the dirt was. >> right. >> the question i also have is does this mean he's also willing to take hacked material which was obtained illegally by these foreign adversaries? >> that's a great question. let's listen more to the president because if you're a supporter of the president there they go again. don't listen to us then. listen to him. >> i think you might want to listen. there's nothing wrong with listening. if i thought there was something wrong i'd go maybe to the fbi, if i thought there was something wrong, but when somebody comes up with oppo research, right, they come up with oppo research, oh, let's go to the fbi. the fbi doesn't have enough

agents to take it but if you talk honestly to congressmen they all do it. they always have. that's the way it is. it's called oppo research. >> this is one of his tricks and he's really good at it. they all do it, and today if you read his twitter account like a toddler who got caught. everybody is bad. don't get mad at me because everybody is bad. what your children do when they get caught. they don't do it. yes, they do opposition research. there's legitimate opposition rest can you pay people and use nexus lexus and go to the courthouse and library and do all of that. when a foreign government, especially a hostile foreign government is the source and contacting you in offering you help, that's not oppo research, that's a crime. >> what the president is particularly good at is the picking an issue that the president doesn't have a broader knowledge about and has tangential-based info on and deciding to make it whatever it is that helps his case when in fact it's not there. we've all been on the receiving end of opposition research

during presidential campaigns. i've not been on the receiving end from a foreign government that was offering intelligence. the problem is what he's saying is happening everywhere is not happening everywhere. you talk to lawmakers about this, they make it very clear, if they were to receive something to the government, they would report it, and when it came to the does yes, become the big counterpunch we've heard from republicans when they are willing to weigh in. when senator john mccain and spoke to senator lindsey graham, graham said take this to the fbi. anybody who got that was supposed to take that to the fbi and that's the universal theme regardless of parties. if this ever came to us, take it to the fbi because where else would you go on something like that? >> this has been a national conversation for two-plus years, including the confirmation of the fbi's director if he says in the case of say donald trump jr. or a hypothetical can, you got a phone call from somebody, quick little google shows they have associations with a has file foreign government, you should call law enforcement. george stephanopoulos asked the president about this. >> this is somebody who said we have information on your

opponent. oh, let me call the fbi. give me a break. >> the fbi director says that's what should happen. >> the fbi director is wrong. >> fun to work for him in that he calls you out. at least christopher wray understands there's no ambiguity there about what the president thinks, but he says, you know, life -- give me a break. life doesn't work that way. his life doesn't work that way or hasn't worked that way, but most people get this. >> yeah. there have been cases where opposition researchers have ended up in jail. there have been criminal cases where people went too far there. what is a case in new hampshire last decade where this happened. he seems to not understand the difference between doing research and actually breaking into something. where that is clearly a crime. that is what the watergate whole thing spun from what is a break-in. >> you're absolutely right about that, and this also suggests kind of an adversarial instinct that the president has now about the fbi that he does not see it as the domestic law enforcement agency that is there to, you

know, sort of support him and the public, you know, and god governance, right? it's like -- what he's hinting at is he doesn't really trust the fbi. if he wanted more fbi agents available so they could investigate stuff, he has the ability to use the bully pulpit and use the legislative folks to get more funding or to encourage his attorney general to shift resources, so within the same like 24-hour period we saw him then, i think it was this morning, tweet that -- emphasizing that michael flynn had a new lawyer, congratulating him on a choice of a lawyer because this lawyer is sort of a well-known anti-fbi, anti-mueller probe lawyer and the president is saying good lawyer, good luck, guys. an antagonistic tone with the

fbi which is why he answered the question like that. >> why does he keep doing this besides the fact that it was 72 hours since republicans on the hill had to face a cries and have furrowed brows and it's anything that calls into question the legitimacy of 2016. he views whatever the position is that might call into question in his mind the legitimacy of his victory in 2016, he has to take the opposite side of it immediately and i don't think anybody of us, none of us, that this in any way impacts that. a lot of his reactions, what on earth is he talking about? that's kind of a consistent theme with a lot of stuff that he says that shakes people in both parties. >> he can get away with t.republicans can, as you mentioned earlier, john, have pretty much other than graham foind found ways to talk around it. >> if you ask the republicans about something controversial said by the republican president, you get a pretty predictable answer. blame hillary clinton.

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elections is growing and not lessening and we don't want to send a signal to lessen it and that's why looking at the fisa process regarding the steele dossier is important. >> to senator graham's credit he did first disagree with the president's statement. the president saying he'd be incloind to listen if a foreign government offered dirt on a political opponent and the house rope can leader turned indignant when asked about the president's comments, indignant at hillary clinton, of course. >> i know the president and i know what it took in the last campaign, when he was approached by this. he did what was wrong. when i watch the democrats they did what was wrong. they actually funded it and put us through this special counsel. they utilize the fisa court to spy on americans, to falsify the salacious lies in this process that put america into this tailspin. >> cnn's sara mir and evan perez join in our conversation. let's go through a couple of things. okay. did the steele dossier, is that the only reason we had the

mueller investigation as the republicans say there? there's a steele does yes, made its way to the fbi, voila, that's why we have a special counsel, fact or fiction? >> no. >> fiction? >> that was not a yes or no question. >> look, there's more to this. obviously the fbi said that they had a lot of additional envelopes that they believed warranted this investigation. they had it before, as a matter of fact. they started the investigation before they received the original document that we now call the steele dossier and so there's a lot more to this investigation, and obviously some of the president's own obstructive acts which have been detailed in the mueller investigation is what really brought us to the mueller investigation. >> and we may learn more and i'm dying to learn more from the justice department inspector general and the attorney general himself looking at the origins of the russia investigation, so if there was misuse at the fbi. >> right. >> of the steele information, we will learn, that right? >> look. the fbi makes mistakes.

they screw up all the time, and if they made mistakes here and everything was not done appropriately as part of this investigation, we're going to find out, and that's appropriate for us to know, right. this is an awesome power that the fbi has to intrude on our lives and they should be held to account but that's not what these guys are talking about. >> they have learned very well from the president. just conflate things and confuse. it's a great tactic that the president uses to success. christopher steele, is he the same as russians either accepting hacked -- wikileaks accepting hacked e-mails and the president trump, candidate president trump urging hem to put in the public or getting a meeting at trump tower with someone you could tie back to the russia government, is that the same as the democrats and clinton and dnc paying a former british intelligence agent now in private business to collect opposition research? >> no, it's not the same thing in part as you said it's a former british intelligence agent so we have a very different relationship with the uk than we do with russia. russia is essentially a foreign

adversary and the uk is one of our closest allies, and this is somebody who has worked with the fbi in the past which is part of the reason which they felt probably more comfortable relying on some of this information, not for all of this investigation, but relying on some of this information as if they were moving forward. i think when you look at what the trump people were doing when it came to russia, they were accepting information or at least suggesting a willingness to accept information with a government that was openly hostile to the united states, a government that was involved in hacking. it's just a very different situation. it's like every time you did the republicans a question about donald trump they bring it back to hill him. we're not talking about the same thing here. we're not in the same univerve's conversations and if they say go look at that shiny object doesn't mean america should all follow like sheep behind it. >> it's because they don't want to answer a question and here's the question and then you're going to hear john cornyn, republican senator of texas and thom tillis, republican of north carolina up for re-election, trying to keep the president on his good side. is it wrong for the president.

united states, the president. united sates, republican donald trump, to say i would listen if a foreign government called, i'd be open to listening? of course you would listen. give me a break. why would you call the fbi if an adversarial foreign government called you up to say we have dirt on your opponent? >> it's already happen. hillary clinton paid fusion gps for dirt on president trump and now after the mueller investigation which has produced no charges, now obviously the inspector general of the department of justice is looking at how that got started. >> anyone can talk about the president and saying he'd be okay to accept foreign dirt? >> the president -- first off, to get information like hillary clinton did, she probably should have contacted the fbi. i think the president would, too, but if the information is value it's a matter of corroborating it. >> he's a member of the united

states senate and should know the law. if the information is valid. if the information comes from a national foreign actor, it's illegal to take it, right? >> one of the important things about this conversation todayed is what it means for 2020 and i think that's where the importance lives. the idea is you should call the fbi, and by the way, one of the reasons why there were no charges here in this case because, you know, one of the excuses that these guys had is they didn't know that it was against the law. in campaign finance laws that's one of the issues that you have to prove that you knew you were violating the law. so now they n.o.w. know. now they know. >> that's the president of the united states. >> but now he does know. >> oh, i'm shocked, shocked. >> we were talking about like terms of art. >> he knows. he does know. he does know. i shouldn't even joke about this. he does know so why then does he do it? >> that's a long pause. >> a softball question. i don't know why he's doing it. to phil's point, i don't know if

his instinct is just to defend his behavior in 2016 and that's the lens through which he sees it or whether he wants to purposefully provocative and it will whip up the impeachment talk. i don't think how strategic it is. i can't possibly read his mind, but i do know what he said and what he laid out in n that interview with george stephanopoulos has a lot of republicans behind the scene very uncomfortable. >> just too cowardly to say so publicly. i'll say that. news just into cnn, the white house says a government watchdog is trying to chill free speech. that's what the white house says recommending that kellyanne conway lose her job. the office special counsel says she violated the hatch law. the office special counsel saying she did that on television and social media. >> the white house says the law is deeply flawed and influenced by media pressure and liberal organizations. we should know that the burden

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presidential rivals who believe his embrace of the word socialist is not only wrong but risks damaging the entire democratic party brand. >> democrats must say loudly and clearly that we are not socialists. if we do not, we will end up helping to re-elect the worst president in this country's history. >> when person says it's either trump or democratic socialism, it's a completely false choice. we need an agenda that appeals to the american people and unites the american people. why do we want to choose a vocabulary that divides people? >> former vice president joe biden, the front-runner, of course, also taking issue. this is from a fund-raiser last night in chicago. this is vice president biden. quote, things have changed in a way that need a to be turned around, and it doesn't require socialism and it doesn't require some fundamental shift. it the requires sort of reordering capitalism to make capitalism work and save it. this reaction because sanders delivered a speech yesterday explaining and defending his

view of democratic socialism. last night here on cnn he politely suggested his critics are wrong. >> is it a liability? >> i don't think so, and i'll tell you y.look, i certainly know elizabeth for many, many years and she's a friend. >> she's a capitalist. >> i know, and i know many other candidates who are in my view knowing them personally well-intentioned and decent people who want to do the right thing but here is the point, anderson, that i want to make. one of the reasons that so many americans are dispirited about the political process is rut they see a candidate come hear and say i want to do this and i want to do that and do that, and nothing happens. >> relatively polite there, but he's saying i'm different. i will do things and all of you other people you're nice. i know you mean well, but you're police and you're just saying stuff. you're not getting anything done. >> this is a way for sanders to distance himself from warren which he just mentioned because they aloin on a lot of issues and it also provides an opening

for her because she reportedly laughed when she was asked about his speech, and it gives her room to pull away from him if there are liberal democrats who don't necessarily want to go the democratic socialist route, and we've seen that reflected in polls. she's starting to edge him out a bit. >> and when you listen to governor hickenlooper and senator bennett, they are reflecting their view of watching the last 25 years in american politics and say we're going to get crushed if bernie is our nominee and if the whole party gets painted as socialist. good-bye pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. bernie sanders and some of the newest house members, aoc say that's the party's approximate go big, go bold, go different. who is right? >> the fact that we're having this conversation and debate within the democratic party and having a candidate like bernie sanders who says i'm a democratic socialist i'm willing

to give a lengthy speech laying out what democratic socialism is and there's other believe that the word socialism is important and believe some of his policies are in the wrong direction. the democratic party can have that debate internally and the american people can have that debate over the months that follow. if you talk to people like alexandria ocasio-cortez. on the top line my proposals poll very well on the top line so let's actually see it. let's see voters weigh in in the primary and afterwards. >> sanders is the center of attention for a day anyway in the was and wanted to explain his views because he knows he's coming under attack and when he's on the debate stapling, governor hickenlooper, whoever on the stage with him will make that point. if you look at the polling. this is iowa. go back to 2015, you can see bernie sanders that 41% of iowans are for bernie sanders and now 16% of liberals are for

bernie sanders. if you flip it over here his biggest challenge is from elizabeth warren. she gets 22%. 22% of iowa caucus-goers, likely caucus-goers are for her and bernie sanders is down here. that's essentially a tie with buttigieg, tie and bernie sanders there, but listen to bernie sanders. he was on with dana bash on "state of the union" on sunday because the field is crowded but not because i've lost my appeal. >> warren is on top among liberal caucus-goers. it seems maybe you've lost your position as the clear progressive alternative to joe biden in iowa. why? >> well, dana, what i think is that four years ago, you know, that were only two of us in the race and we split the vote about 50% each. this time you have a whole lot of candidates and i don't think anybody is going to reach 50%. >> is that all it is, is it, no

offense to senator sanders, that he's been around at track before and people are looking for somebody new and if you're a democrat you're looking at elizabeth warren who is a woman who may have different ideas. >> whenever you refer to women candidates, he may have a likability problem. there's a lot more people in his lane right now fighting for those same progressive voters, and some of them are more appealing, and that's -- that's the facts. >> hand a lot of the activists and mobilizers who i've spoken to who are trying to get democrats energized heading into the primary and into the general say that they definitely still want a woman if possible or a person of cole tor win the nomination. >> and yet -- and yet he was underestimated by a lot of people, including people in our business back in 2016. his support -- his numbers may be down but his supporters are loyal and he's a ploefn fund-raiser. we'll have a long race, if you're still gathering you're --

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getting a new look today as where the 20 to democrats stand in the early caucus state of nevada, a big test to appealing to latino voters. joe biden has big lead. 36%, of likely caucus-goers back the former vice president and elizabeth warren comes in second at 19% and bernie sanders third at 13%. no other democrat cracked double digits. hispanic vote remembers critical to democrats in nevada. take a look there. biden leads the among latinos with 27% followed by senator sanders, senator warren and beto o'rouke. julian castro polling with 2% with his panic voters in nevada

even though he's made the most visits to the state. iowa, new hampshire, largely white states and then you start campaigning in the more diverse states, nevada, south carolina, latino voters will be critical. is there a deep biden affinity among latin voters and he's the former vice president and he has name recognition? that's where we start but may not end? >> it's because he has name recognition. nevada is wide open for the taking, even though warren hasn't visited as many times as someone like castro, she has the most boots on the ground. she has 30 staffers there. booker has the next about a dozen, and biden only has four there, so that sends a signal to the communities there whether or not you take them seriously. warren is also hoping to in the coming months set up a caucus training -- in latino communities so that could make a big difference for her when it comes to courting those voters. >> in the piece you wrote, i want to read a line to it, we've

seen the typical fly-ins to some and take picture of popular dreamers a gnd eat tacos but the reality is few of the campaigns have had substantive conversations, so, in other words, the community is saying you want our vote, you better get your tails out here and do some work. >> and this gets to the classic question we mentioned earlier which, you know, is there -- is the race supposed to be about or should democrats try to just focus on the rural white voters or the midwest, the states that trump took, or do they need to also pay attention to minorities and can they do both, and that a lot of operatives are they need to do both. a lot of them need to pay attention to latinos and black voters because there was depressed vote turnout from those communities in 2014 and they are saying if you want us to turn out you have to pay attention to us, too. >> show the map, just the growing latino population across the country in terms of the significance of the vote, first in the democratic primaries, of

course, but then also in the general election, a growing population that's changed some of the behave to become a swing electorate in many states. they would be foolish not to do both, right? >> yeah, and i think one of the interesting things that i picked up in that poll is if you look at pete buttigieg who obviously has been -- who has been having a moment now for it seems like a couple of weeks, his numbers in iowa look very good and his numbers in south carolina with african-american voters is horrific. his campaign is aware of that and numbers in the nevada poll with latinos is not registering so he knows he's got work to do if he's going to become real and move on. his campaign has been aware of this and is trying to address this but having the boots on the ground and getting the candidate out there, and that's tough flying out to the west coast when you're focusing on some of the early states. >> that's why it's hard to run a presidential campaign. >> super tuesday is one week or ten days after so people are already going to be thinking why not just leap ahead to k.why not

just leap ahead to even the southern states, alabama, places like that where i can get delegates, back to the delegate math we were talking about earlier and nevada doesn't have as many delegates as some of the other states. >> i do think it matters for those democrats in the contest now. of course, the primaries are what matters now, but this is also relationship-building for november 2020 because when it comes right down to it, there may be a few key states where the latino vote turnout really matters >> exactly. >> if it's close. >> and nevada has been trending are blue and the trump campaign wants to make a play there so we should watch that as well. rule nothing out if you haven't learned a lesson from the last couple of cycles. up next, lightning round, congressional district. is this a holiday in the senate if you can see it there. loves this tradition. members of bolt parties ringing in national seersucker suit day. rare bipartisan on capitol hill. ♪

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been here. i've always thought there's more we can do. it's the greatest body in the world. so much good could be done. now if you think you've seen this movie before it's because you have. >> i don't like what i've been involved with the last four years and i've been very vocal about that. the place sucks when it don't work and i know it can work so i still have hope, but i get a little frustration. it's a shame when the place breaks down because of toxicity. the solution to obstruction isn't ruin being the senate it's outreach and compromise and until we're willing to do that the hard work of thins tuesday is going to get work. >> so he's frustrated. that's well documented. will he leave? >> this is classic manchin. he's been saying since he's entered that he'll leave the senate so i'll believe it when he sees it when he finally announce and files his canned. >> i there there these 23 of them running for president. 20 look like they will make the

debate stage. senator marchin wants to leave the senate. why wouldn't you stop being in the senate and run for governor? >> if the senate is so good how come all the senators are trying to get out? for those of us who become energized and -- and really electrified by working with talented people and taking on things that people say rim possible and then getting them done, i -- i don't -- i can't -- the senate doesn't attract me at this point. just doesn't attract me. >> fanned you talk to his former colleagues, his governors, lamar alexander, joe manchin, mark warner, most say you'd rather be a chief executive than be in the united states senate. my question is this, not necessarily governor hickenlooper, some will not be successful in the presidential race l.some run for the senate then? >> the senate under mcconnell the last five months he boasts it's a legislative graveyard and it's -- he's having trouble on the republican side recruiting people to run in places like new

hampshire. when you're not doing anything but investigate on cabinet, subcabinet level people you've never heard of, it's hard to recruit. >> not terribly exciting, is it? phil mattingly, senator richard shelby, alabama, very important when it comes to spending. serious discussions with meetings that took place in the capitol office of leader mcconnell about funding the governor. shelby said the president and gop senators are close to the same page but not on it yet. >> the absolute and being close to the same page is not a good place to be. a closed door meeting in mcconnell's office. it did not go quite well, but they are making their way there. this has to get done by the end of september. not 120 billion in haut matic cuts, also the debt kreempingt the white house and republicans are still split. that's the divide that needs to be made up before we even get the democrats and trying to get them on board. >> you fly on air force one frequently. what do you think of the new design the president is showing off? >> i think it's the pace of air

force one improvements goes anything like it always has this, may be an issue that another president cuts the bow off at the end. pessimism. >> i'll see you back this time tomorrow. lots of news today. brianna keilar starts right now. have a great afternoon. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, republicans walking a political tight rope, some of them criticizing president trump over his jaw-dropping admission that he would accept dirt from an opponent from a foreign government, but they are also trying to deflect the focus on the president's outrageous comments by falsely claiming that democrats essentially did the same thing in 2016. here's republican senator lindsey graham. >> i think it's a mistake. i think it's a mistake of law. i don't want to send a signal to encourage this, and i hope my democratic colleagues will be