upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ready to treat differently with a pill? otezla. show more of you. up a [ applause ] good evening, i'm van jones welcome to the van jones show. we got an porp show tonight. tomorrow is exactly four years since donald trump came down that escalator in trump tower and changed this country bigly as he says. so tonight we take a big step become and try to get our bearings and dig into some of the big issues, the key challenges facing all of us in the trump era. number one, what are we going to do about the rising tide of harrieted and white supremacist violence in the country? number two what do we do about the say social media is tearing us apart? tonight we have great guesting

to help us sort this stuff out. two democratic congresswoman coming tonight, one muslim, one jewish to stand against white supremacist violence. tonight we hear guardian congresswoman jan chehkowski and ilhan omar on my show. but first wsh -- first let's talk. i want to shine a light on some of the positive signs of health and hope in the country. i need to do this for myself because next week trump is announcing his big re-election bid too soon. it's too soon. i still haven't recovered from the first announcement. okay? lack, from that day until now i have just hated trump's tone on immigrants and refugees. i've just hated his flippant disregard for the idea of fair elections, free from foreign influence. you know, this week the chairwoman of the federal election kmipgs had to come out and make it clear to the president of the united states that it's illegal to get help

from foreign nationals in a u.s. election after trump's comments saying he would happily take dirt on his political opponents from other countries. now, that's just terrible. and the big danger to me has always been that the rest of us would eventually start adopting the views. forgetting that we can welcome and accept people and celebrate diversity i understand of locking up people in detention centers and separating kirds from parents. forgetting that the fourth of july is called independence day for a reason. there have been always been foreign powers that would love to dominate and have our have our leaders do their bidding. my fear has been that america will become too tough on foreign people but too soft on foreign powers and just too callous overall. but luckily this woke i saw signs of health, saw some ant epibodies kicking in. i found myself touched by former vice president joe biden making campaign appearances. the story line was biden versus

trump trading blows. yeah biden going after trump. but in the best possible way. he said essentially we are better than this. >> you know, he says let's make america great again. let's make america america again. >> i love that. i love that. it may be out of fashion, maybe corny to truly believe in the best of our country. that sent manile crap it's out. it's about isn't that correct and cynicism these days. not for me. i am still a 2008 barack obama hope and changer. i'm proud of it. i was happy to see somebody rising above the cynicism and sticking up for values. i may not vote for him in the primary but i sure appreciate him. honestly same with john stewart, a retired comedienne and usually known for sarcasm but he made it a mission to passionately and emotionally defend the heroic 911 first responders who are suffering still from illnesses he did it in front of congress. >> they responded in five

seconds. they did their jobs. with courage, grace tenacity, humility. 18 years later, do yours! >> he didn't have to do that. and the next day the house judiciary committee unanimously passed the 911 victim compensation bill. and i was also thrilled by the way to see four former heads of the environmental protection agency both republicans and democrats joining forces speaking out about the current epa saying stop ignoring science kwab, rolling back major protections for the planet. that's three beautiful acts. when we get off track we need the brave, bold people to call us back to our best selves and we have to do a better job against fighting back the rising tide of hatred we are facing. luckily an unlikely duo of

congresswoman are making that their mission. i poke to representatives ilhan oman and jan chehkowski about the latest trump controversy take a look. >> is donald trump begging for impeachment? i heard you say that donald trump because he says he will take any foreign dirt from any foreign dirty dealer he is begging for impeachment true or false. >> i think it's true. although not part of a larger strategy because donald trump does not have any strategy. he wakes up every day and tries to figure out how to handle feeling good about himself. but this is so amazing. come on. >> it is tp. it reminded me like when your child is in trouble and then you know they're trag to get out of that trouble and then they get themselves in more trouble. >> more trouble. >> and i was like oh, honey. with you we've been saying a lot of us that it was -- that this has not been about if he was going to get impeachment. it's when. and i think the clock is just ticking now.

>> one thing, i think about sometimes the way that tv comes after you they sometimes say you're not very patriotic or whatever they challenge you about not being patriotic do you feel trump is being patriotic when he says i'll take foreign dirt on his campaign. >> this is one of the most unamerican things you could say. >> it's just shocking really. i mean, the thing about donald trump is he doesn't really hide it. the question is, when are people going to say and i hope they will soon when they hear more -- that's it, it's finally enough. >> he is so bold in the most lawlessness thoughts that go through his head. and i think for so -- for so long we've just said that's kind of what trump does. it's what trump does. it's tiek to make this a constitutional matter and protect our nation. >> speaking of time, it's been four years since trump came down the escalator.

we've had a lot of hatred that's been rising. i think part of the reason you guys are coming together is because of that. talk a little bit about the impact of the trump presidency on america and what's going on when it comes to this rise of hatred? >> i am so happy to be here with my colleague. but you know, you could set up more chairs. you could have the lgbt kmount over here. you could have the immigrant community over here. what about hispanics? what about african-americans? and you could fill this stage. >> with groups of people that are being buffetted by hatred. >> yes. directly again there is no subtlety about this. those were some very fine people in charlotte valhalla marching the jews will not replace us and marching with torches. >> if you were the target of this, it's really big.

>> right. >> but if you're not it's just another news story. what is it like right now to be a young muslim trying to raise a family in an america where there seems to be a license for more hatred? >> there is constant fear, right, of being othered. we know what being othered leads to. it's very dangerous. >> what does that othered. >> to not be seen as being part of your community, as being part of your city, your state, your country, constantly being viewed as an invader. and i think -- i know that it has an impact on our mental health. >> we have seen this tremendous uptick in acts of violence, in all kinds of attacks on both of our communities since donald trump is the president of the united states. because i believe he has just

unleashed permission for people to talk with such contempt towards each other. >> you are coming together. you wrote in op ed. >> yes. >> trying to figure out some way towards each other. it seems like there is efforts to divide people. >> when we are fighting against each other, if muslims and jews that's a victory for white supremacists. that's a victory for white supremacists. i think what we are trying to do is just to articulate that we in order to fight that need to be together. >> and the thing -- i think that makes this country exceptional is not that it is homogenius in race it's in values. >> i hear the clarion call. you want unity.

what do you want the government, and the trump administration to do? what besides pointing to the problem. >> i want the trump administration to be gone. >> well. >> well it's 17 months. the big decision. and so i think the american people have to eystad, who are we as a country? what are the values that -- that make america great? >> the bigger thing that we must do, right, to fight in cancer, really is go after the cure. and the cure is to be in conversation. we have to all engage in this generational project. >> i think it's important that you say that because. >> it's a big are conversation. >> as frustrated as i get and a lot of people get with trump this is a global thing happening. >> right. >> why do you think that people are open to this stuff in this day and auj right now? is there something happening. >> you know, i think the income inequality plays into this. when people feel really fragile and looking for someone to

blame, pointing to a minority group, pointing to immigrants who are coming in, people are taking my job, they're getting benefits that i'm not getting, which of course isn't true. and so i think that this fundamental economic fact that so many people are living on the -- on the edge makes them susceptible to this kind of nationalism. >> i want to play a video from rashida tlaib. he is in congress in a hearing speaking to an fbi director. and listen to the pain in her voice. >> i was totally excited and pleased when i heard about 49 muslims were killed and many -- many more were wounded in new zealand. this is a great start.

let's hope and pray that it continues here in the good old usa. the only -- the only good muslim is a dead one. how is that enough, not enough to fall under domestic terrorism. >> this was after the horrific massacre in new zealand. and that was a hateful letter directed to her and to you. >> yeah, i mean, it's a daily occurrence for rashida and i. >> what is? >> this kind of hate that the terror, the threats, just yesterday a man in florida pled guilty to saying he wanted to throw me off the empire state building. >> you said somebody in court. >> yeah. >> pled guiltying to to wanting you to throw you physically off a building. >> yeah, the empire state building. he called my office. that wasn't enough. he called three other members of

congress and left voice mails telling them that's what he wanted to do to me. the a very young age survived little militias standing in front of my house trying to annihilate my family. and so i understand what that kind of fear looks like. and i don't like to give space to it. you know, i think what is more important to me is that we understand that as a member of congress i have protection, up up. >> but there are i will hand and rashida and jans out there in the public trying to live their normal life. >> just trying to get from point a. >> without the protection and the notoriety and the resources that we might have, who are going to a grocery store, going to their place of worship, that might have a run in with that

person, who will harm them. >> let me -- let me just say on a more mundane level, the trump administration actually eliminated a grant that could go to communities to help protect themselves, disbanded an intelligence gathering unit that was focused on white supremacy, and the danger that it poses to several communities. so the mechanism to help that could really do something are being eroded quite deliberately by this president. >>. ilhan omark sparked controversy that many viewed as absolute i submitic what does she take from that experience? and what were the tough conversations like with her jewish colleagues like jan chakowski? that's next.

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. all right wmg back to the van jones show. freshman congressman ilhan omar has been a lightning rod almost since she was sworn in in. in february she faced backlash for being critical of israel and a israeli group using language that many people considered anti-semitic. she apologized that hasn't stopped people on the right and oh people on fox words taking her words out of context anvil fieing her. i talked to ilhan omar and her colleague jan schakowsky about all this take a look. >> i think anybody watching in show can see the heart you have. yet you have the big moments where suddenly like you were the most controversial person in the world. and she must hate jewish people all that stuff. what did you learn from that? >> what you learn is -- is that like i said, you have to always

pause. you can never really understand what you do, what you say, your demeanor, actions, what any of those things could mean for someone, and the kind of feelings that it could unearth for them. so i had to stop and say, right, what does it mean to you? why are these particular words impactful for you when they are not that impactful for me when i say them? and i think in that process really it's about opening up a door to having a greater understanding of the kind of generational traumas we all carry, right. i know that some of my jewish constituents when they come visit me they will say you don't understand. my grandmother or great

grandmother had to hide under the bed to survive that night. and i would say, well you didn't do any research on who i am, because i deeply understand what it means to be 8 and 7 and hide under a bed for survival. and for my shortcomings of not understanding what certain words could mean to your particular community doesn't mean that i don't understand the pain and the generational trauma that that might bring. >> let me just say we had a conversation about some of the things that ilhan said. but i want to tell you that the majority of reaction that i got to our -- doing the op-ed together was positive. there were a few people within my jewish community who, you know, were infuriated, why aren't you doing more to condemn her? i said because we've had this

talk. and it is important to say these are the things that touch a nerve. these are the things that do hurt. she totally heard that. totally understood that. we are both victims of the kind of discrimination that's going on and the kind of hate talk that is going on. do you want to keep that going? do you want to perpetuate that? no this is the person i know. now i know on a very personal relationship. and we can work together. of course we can. >> i mean, so i want to say, you know, there are people who are genuinely interested in fighting anti-semitism. and then there are -- >> of course i am. >> there are those that are interested in weaponizing, right, anti-semitism to shut down debate on whatever they might not agree on and villify

anyone that they mate not want to have any platform or influence. many of my colleagues understand that one of my first acts after winning my general election was to write an on ed in my local newspaper about the rise of anti-semitism when the fbi report came out, and the work that we had to do. because it's really important that you're not only talking about the threats that you face, you're talking about the threats that others face. i'm someone that always sees that there is a connection to your oppression to mine. >> let me just say, though, i think some of the people who were upset about what they heard as anti-semitism keyed into the -- we're not necessarily trying to weaponize them. this was -- this was a genuine feeling. so in part my -- >> a lot of the people it was genuine. >> it was a genuine feeling and a genuine concern.

>> there was a lot of loud people who may not have a genuine concern. >> but one of the motivations for me to be public along with ilhan was to help those people understand where i was coming from. but even more importantly where she is coming from. >> i'm getting the same criticism. i joined the jewish blac caucus and people like why would you do that? because there are members who have not been the kindest to muslims and african-americans, and black folk in in country. but i know that this gives us an opportunity to have that conversation, to hold each other accountable to say, if we're interested in creating a better world we have to hold hands, we have to educate one another. >> yeah, i'm trying to raze my kids in this society as well trying to find a way forward. it's very, very difficult to hold a principle but also be criticized. i see you struggling with that.

one of the countries you have- or people you expressed concerned for are the people of palestine. take a moment to express and explain to my audience why you are so concerned about what's happening in palestine. we've chastised for the way you talked about it, possibly justifiably. but why do you care so much about palestine? >> i think -- i believe that it's within the principles of every human to believe we're all created equal. we all should have access to all rights as humans. and so when you see a group of people that might not have their full rights intact, then you have to speak up for them, if you truly believe that. i don't think because there is a challenge you shouldn't speak. >> right. >> i know a lot of people will say, you know, ilhan, this isn't

politically expedient, why are you taking so many hits for people who others have given up on. for me i believe i'm only alive because people didn't give up on, right, saving me. and i have to use the opportunities that i have to speak up for the people that i actually believe people might have given up on. and i don't think that the world has done justice when it comes to palestinians. and i don't believe that we can continue to walk around and tiptoe around the palestinian, israeli issue and not talk about the injustice that's taking place and how we urgently need to remedy it. >> i feel so strongly about justice for palestinians partly because of my lifelong love for the state of israel and the idea of a jewish state and a democratic state at the same

time. and i think as long as we are supporting a two-state solution, and full rights for palestinians and to have their self-determination, and to have a state that we're on the right path for israel. >> we have the most diverse congress we have ever had. you represent the most diverse incoming class we've ever had. i'll tell what you, if you don't believe having different voices at the table is going to change the conversation, you just have to rnc to what you just said and the conversation you are having across lines and generations. i think it's beautiful. i think it's exciting. i appreciate what you are doing. keep going. we are proud to have you on the van jones show. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> paufl, paufl conversation we have more come up. youtube ceo on the defensive this we can. defending her decision to keep videos with anti-gay slurs up on the site. at the same time apologizing to people outraged by that policy. what is that balance between free speech and hate speech for

big tech in we are talking about that with the person who sparked this whole conversation. his name is carlos maza joining us for an exclusive interview when we get back [ applause ] this time, it's his turn. you have 4.3 minutes to yourself. this calls for a taste of cheesecake. philadelphia cheesecake cups. rich, creamy cheesecake with real strawberries. find them with the refrigerated desserts.

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welcome back to the van jones show. we are facing a major cultural debate in this country around

speech. especially on social media. on the one hand we want to stamp out hatred and harassment. on the other hand we want to prevent censership and protect our first amendment rights. sometimes these values just seem to clash. and these tech companies now are having to walk a tight rope on the issue. here a closer look at the problem. there are now more than 126 million active users on twitter every day. youtube meanwhile has 1.9 billioners per month and people watch more than a billion hours of video on that site every day. facebook is the biggest with more than 2 billion active users per month. and that company owns the social media giant instagram. with numbers like that it's no wonder the companies are struggle with how to manage the content. some content restrictionen created by government. copyright laws for example. but much is left to the companies to govern themselves. they've got a lot to wrestle with including deciding how

strict the guidelines for banned speech should be. >> any suspension whether permanent or a temporary one makes someone think about actions. >> we see the benefits of openness but also see that needs to be married with responsibility. >> but the efforts on the social media giants to clean up sites is actually angered a lot of people. many exacts are still troubled by facebook and their role in russia's 2016 disinformation campaign. >> the big social media platforms know their systems are being manipulated. by foreign and domestic actors to sow division and spread misinformation. but they won't get serious about cleaning up platforms annapolis consumers demand it. >> they say the company is not doing enough to stop the spread of fake news and doctored videos. >> this is a top priority to make sure people aren't spreading misinformation or interfere in elections on facebook is. >> other critics say social media giants like youtube aren't doing enough to stamp out hate

peach. >> they are making excuses to avoid doing the difficult thing dealing with the monster they spent years create zbroog but some conservatives say they are being unfairly banned arguing the content is flagged at hate speech sfla names are taken off. people aren't getting through. and it seems to be if they're conservative, republicans it's discrimination and big discrimination. >> joining us now we have two men with a personal stake in this whole fight. roger mcnamee is a long-term vent yur capitalist. he was a investor in facebook advising mark zuckerberg but now says it's doing serious damage. and carlos maza host of the series strike through on vox.com has been harass ds by the youtuber named steven crowder. he recently tweet add whole montage of offensive jokes about his race and sexuality. he asked youtube to do

something. they left up but demonetized the account so he can't make money off it. carlos you've been through a lot. i want to show -- so people know what we are talking about, a part of the montana montage is very offensive then we'll talk about it. please show the horrific montage of the attacks. >> a i will will year you the gay mexican kwie. guy mexican mexican gay latino there at vox. >> now, this went on for years. in guy singling you out over and over and over again. when was enough enough and why did you decide to finally take action? >> well it happened for about two and a half years basically since i started making my web show about two years in i was out shopping for lamp with my mom and i got docksed which means a supporter found my phone number and bombarded my phone with text messages i had to alert the security team that someone had my number.

i started flagging to youtube this was happening and asking them to enforce the policy and got zero response. then a couple weeks ago it happened again where he made another video making fun of me for being gay and hispanic. i had been frustrated i felt like nothing i had done was working. i was on my couch by myself and i said i think i'm done and he had kit altogether on tweeted not about what he had been doing because there will always be jerks like him but youtube was about to start pride month and rock the rainbow colors and care about lgbt people. and they were helping this guy build the audience was who is only content was making fun of me being year and hips zbliek youtube said we will leave it up and not making money is that good decision, bad decision. >> the people people making this content aren't use going for ad revenue. they make their using using the youtube technology to find people who will be drawn to them. youtube will find people who are

attracted bigotry and hate speech. recommend the videos to them and then build a huge audience you can profit off of and then the bad actors when they get demonetized saying i'm a victim, martyr buy my m. rch and they make millions claiming to be a victim. >> i want to give, you know, the people on the other side of this thing a chance to be heard. obviously steven crowder sees it differently and the ceo of youtube sees it differently. let's hear from him. >> make no mistake this not about me versus some guy at vox. this is an example of a giant corporate media entity trying to silence voices that they don't like. >> it's just that from a policy standpoint we need to be consistent because if we -- look if we took down that content there would be so many other -- so much other content that we would need to take down. and we are not -- we don't want to just be knee jerk we need to think about it in a thoughtful

way. speak with everyone. speak to people from the lgbtq community. make sure that we are incorporating that going forward in terms of how we think about harassment. and then make sure that we are implementing that in a fair and consistent way going forward. >> you were at the start of in whole thing with social media, technology, was that an adequate answer from your point of view? do these companies get it or how do you see it. >> the answer is no that is hopeless and utter non-zbleens why do you say that. >> think about this they are trying to position this as freedom of speech and rihanna did youress the great researcher says this is the freedom of reach, the amplification of the most hostile voices. the business monthly youtube abfacebook, instagram and many other online products are based on capturing our attention and keeping us active on the site. and sadly the best way to do that is to appeal the most base human instincts. things like father and outrage.

so hate speech, disinformation and conspiracy theories are the catnip for the business model of the company. >> can i just add youtube's argument is essentially that if you ban people from saying things like this guy called me a list. y kwoer over many years if you ban the word year then you have to bay gay content producer identifying as kwoer only an argument if you don't have a brain and youtube knows it's not an ortho. youtube knows hate speech is engaging bully dominate the playground. >> aren't you on a slippery slope? do we want the corporations then deciding who gets to speak how they get to speak. >> here the problem with the argument the alternative to the corporations doing it is you have 80-year-old white guys in congress who doesn't know how to use the internet trying to do it. that's worse. it's true any rule has potential drawback about getting misused. i don't trust cops but i don't make an argument we should have no laws. i have an argument for keeping cops accountable and make

aggressive critique when rule enforcers enforce them poorly. >> what about what president trump it means if you're a conservative you're wrong and that the conservatives feel like this is an agenda to silence them how do you expense. >> this guys spent two years of call me a list. y career. if you think conservative ideology is using hate speech rethink the conservative ideology. but ha harassing somebody for being et gay and hispanic. when someone spends two fierce calling me a list. y year and wake up to a avalanche of homophobic content in my inbox. >>s in an issue of right and wrong. >> thank you for being here. i want to you stick around mr. mcnamee. i want to you it hear his story. there is a growing story about text impact on democracy, personal health, privacy. and now both political parties are calling for anti-trust

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welcome back to the van jones show. you know it feels like a moment of reckoning for big tech when you got president trump and senator warren copping at you at the same time you know you got a

problem. leaders in both parties are saying that companies like amazon, google's parent company alphabet, facebook, apple, have too much power. abusing influence. and this week the house judiciary committee began hearings on the topic. it looks like the justice department and the ftc are gearing up for their own investigations with the urging from 43 state attorney generals, all asking the fed to take some kind of action on the tech titans over pry isn't acompetition what does it mean? is good for us, bad for us? we're discussing it with tech investor roger mcnam ee the author of zucked. weighing up to the facebook catastrophe. >> of a all the issues come up i have a whole list. you got market manipulation, privacy concerns, filter bubbles, addiction issues, radicalization online, free speech versus hate speech and more and more, what is the biggest concern that you have

about where we're going with the big tech. >> there is a professor at harvard named shupoff studied google business model for years and framed it perfectle which is that google and facebook behave is that they believe democracy is really inefficient and should replace it with algorithms that control -- basically they want to convert our lives in data. everything in our experience. and they just use it to make the world more efficient. i think that's morally wrong. >> listen, in my daily live i don't feel like i have fewer choices. i feel like i have an app for everything. i feel so happy with my phone. why are you taking my joy away. >> here is the issue, van, is that they have built a data voodoo doll of each of us. they know literally everything we ever touched digitally. they have all the data. they know everything we are think. >> what's wrong with that. >> they have perfect issue about us. customers who are marketers know

everything. what do we know? we only know what they choose to tell us. the same data voodoo doll informs the search results, informs our facebook and instagram news feeds. and so we think we're seeing the full range of choices available to us. but we're not. only seeing the one they give. in the business of selling certainty. they're in not in the business of targeting us with ads. they give these guys database shall did i know that woman is pregnant and doesn't know it yet. >> so your concern is they are putting the digital bread crumbs in front of us leading in a direction. >> when you get to the end point you are living in the matrix. you don't want to wait until you're in the matrix when do you something. you want to do something about it as soon as you see a problem. now we can see there is a problem. >> what can be done? they're saying they should break up the companies. >> they're basically two classes of issues to deal with. one of them is the competition issue, which is that essentially if you are -- if you want to

present something that doesn't harm people, if you want to create a youtube competitive today, you can't do that because they block your access to customers. they control the ad networks. you use anti-trust law to do that. the other thing is go after the business model. go after the data voodoo dolls. why should banks be allowed to sell credit card transaction action why should google be allowed to scan email? why is any of that invasion of our personal space legitimate? what i really feel is the essential point is that -- that it's not enough to own your own data. there are certain kinds of data that shouldn't be commercialized at all. i don't think people should be buying and selling their data. i think that that results in too many bad outcomes. >> listen a lot of tech companies are defending themselves saying that they know they got issues and they're on it and also say they believe in competition. open to some regulation but pushing back against calls to break up companies.

mark zuckerberg recently wrote in the "washington post" saying in part by updating the rules for the internet we can preserve what's best about it, the firemen people express themselves and for entrepreneurs to build new things while also protecting society from broader harms. from what i've learned i believe we need new regulation in four areas harmful content, election integrity, privacy and data portability. and other execs also are speaking out. >> i think it's important to make sure that we are also able to create a healthy competitive ecosystem in which other companies are able to emerge. that's the important question. you know, and i think scrutiny is right. and we will participate constructively in discussions. >> you could brake us up other tech companies but you don't address the underlying issues people are concerned about. we know at facebook that we have a real responsibility to do better. and to earn back people's trust. >> so what are you saying? they're saying hey, man give us

a shot. >> they're smooth. >> we're doing good. >> mark, i admire him for engaging in the exhibiting political conversation. >> it's your fault. you invested in mark. you introduced mark zuckerberg to cheryl sandrock, man. >> i know. that's exactly right. and i'm guilty. >> okay, good. >> i'm doing my penance now. >> okay. >> here is the thing with carlos we were talking about the fact that the business models themselves cause and nurnl bad behavior. and we have to solve that problem. that's why. >> i think a lot of people are just now learning some of this stuff. >> exactly. >> in other words. >> it's complicated. >> you think you are programming your phone but really your phone is programming you. >> that's right. >> because once you like a couple things and swip on things. they that algorithms figures out you think this is the world but it's their plan. isn't there personal responsibility. >> we have learned a lot of lessons. the personal responsibility does matter. but the most important thing people can do now is to talk to people who are running for elective office and say hang on,

you need to protect me. you need to make sure that my life is not being spied upon by corporations for profit. that people need a they need to have a sanctuary, where alexa isn't listening all the time. those clips you just played weren't open and honest. those were their right to defend their position. it's a political argument. they're making a political case. i'm just saying, i'm not going to let them get away with it. >> you've got a great book that's out that i hope everybody will check out, it's called "zuck'd." this conversation is just getting started. i'm so glad you've been a part of it. speaking of social media, why are so many social media accounts going blue this week? it's an important reason, intt' not getting enough attention. i'll explain when i get back.

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