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g jeannie mose, cnn new york. "a.c. 360" starts right now. >> good evening, john beer fna anderson. anderson lost his mother this morning so we begin tonight but honoring her with a beautifuler. we feel his loss deeply here but anyone that had the chance to see them together knows how lucky he is to have the memories he has and to be the best part of the story he was kind enough to leave us tonight. ♪ ♪ gloria vanderbelt my mom lived her entire life in the public eye. born in 1924 her father reginald
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vanderbelt was railroad fortune but garmbmbled away most of the inheritance and died. my mom grew up in france not knowing anything about the vanderbilt family or the money that she would inherit when she would turn 21. she had no idea the trouble that money would create. >> here is the first movie of little gloria herself frightened by the curious crowd, she flees into her aunt's car. >> when she was 10, her father's sist sister sueed to have her taken away from her mother. it was a custody battle the likes of which the world never seen. it was called the trial of the century and took place during the height of the depression making headlines every day for months. the court awarded custody of my mom to her aunt gertrude she barely knew and the judge fired the one person she knew and
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needed hern nanny called doo. >> she was my lifeline. >> as a teenager, she tried to avoid the spotlight but she was followed everywhere. she was determined to make something of her life and make a name for herself and find the love and family she so desperately craved. at 17 against her aunt's wishes, she got married. she knew it was a mistake from get-go. >> hollywood actor agent is 32. >> he was described as a hollywood agent. was he an agent? >> maybe at one point he was. he had been married to talma todd who is a well-known actress and she died under mysterious circumstances. there were rumors around maybe he had killed her, you know. >> wait a minute. [ laughter ] >> wait a minute. so you got married to a guy there were rumors he killed his former wife? >> yes, yes.
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>> did that not seem to give you pause? >> i thought all he needs is me, you know, to -- [ laughter ] >> oh, god. >> sweet heart, i was only 17. >> okay. i know. >> at 21 she married again and had two sons with the legendary conductor. >> this is what he looked like when you first met him? >> well, it's a terrible photograph of him but he was 63 when i first met him and married him. >> was this something as soon as you saw him, you thought -- >> instant. >> really? >> knew him for a week and married three weeks later. >> really? >> yeah. >> i didn't know that. >> yeah. >> he was 63? >> yeah. >> wow. did any of your friends think it was weird? >> i don't know. [ laughter ] >> they didn't say anything? >> didn't matter to me. >> the marriage lasted more than a decade.
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then she met and married director sydney and my father wyatt cooper. over the course of her life, my mom was photographed by all the great photographers she worked as a painter, writer, actress and designer. >> gloria, you're terrific. >> if you were around in the 1980s it was hard to miss the jeans she helped create but that was her public face, the one she learned to hide behind as a child. her private self, her real self was fascinating and more lovely than anything she showed the public. i always thought of her as a visitor from another world, a traveler stranded here who had come from a distant star that burned out long ago. i always felt it was my job to protect her. she was the strongest person i ever met but she wasn't tough. she never developed a thick skin to protect herself from hurt. she wanted to feel it all. she wanted to feel life's pleasures, its pains, as well. she trusted too freely, too
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completely and suffered tremendous losses but she always pressed on, always worked hard, always believed the best was yet to come. you think the next great love is right around the corner? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> is there anyone i should know about right now? >> no. [ laughter ] >> i think he said he never met someone over the age of 16 who loves being in love as much as you. >> that's true. i think we should always be in love. >> and she was always in love. in love with men or with friends or books and art, in love with her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. love is what she believed in more than anything. earlier this month, we had to take her to the hospital and that's where she learned she had very advanced cancer in her stomach and it spread. when the doctored to her she had cancer, she was silent for awhile and then she said well, it's like that old song, show me
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the way to get out of this world because that's where everything is. later she made a joke and we started giggling. i never knew that we had the exact same giggle. i recorded it and it makes me giggle every time i watch it. [ laughter ] [ laughter ] >> joseph conrad wrote we live as we die alone. he was wrong in my mom's case. gloria vanderbelt died as she lived on ore own terms. i know she hoped for little more time, a few days or weeks at least. there were paintings she wanted to make, more books she wanted to read, more dreams to dream. but she was ready. she was ready to go. >> once upon a time. >> she spent a lot of time alone
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in her head during her life but when the end came, she was not alone. she was surrounded by beauty and by family and by friends. the last few weeks every time i kissed her good-bye, i'd say i love you mom. she would look at me and say i love you, too, you know that. and she was right. i did know that. i knew it from the moment i was born and i'll know it for the rest of my life, and in the end, what greater gift can a mother give to her son. gloria vanderbilt was 95 years old when she died. what an extraordinary life. what an extraordinary mom and what an incredible woman. >> what a life. i had the chance to see them together a couple of times and the joy they took in each other was overwhelming and inspiring. we are thinking of anderson and his family tonight. we'll be right back.
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nate v navy says this aluminum and green material will remain after the removal of an kpunexploded mine. congressman serves on the house foreign affairs committee. he serves in the wars in iraq and afghanistan. congressman, thank you for being with us. the u.s. sending these additional troops to the region. have you been briefed on this at all and is this in your mind strategically and military the right move right now? >> thank you for having me, john. any time there sean threats of military personnel, you have to put the right force in place. 1,000 troops is not an offense sie plaster. there is no expectation but to have those securing bases and securing personnel is extremely important. so i do think it's the right move. i have not been briefed on any move changes. we're out of session now. we go back tomorrow and i'm sure we'll see more at that point. >> patrick shanahan said the
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u.s. quote does not seek conflict with iran but with these additional troops being deployed, are you concerned? this is one of the things we hear from around the world, concerned about a possible m miscalculations by either side? >> sure. you always run into proportional responses but the other side may not know what that is. this is always a dangerous situation but protecting allies and troops in the region, we have to put a size that's proper to defend that and be clear that we will not allow the straight of hormooze to shut down. >> the pentagon released these photos. i don't know if you had a chance to look at them as more proof iran was behind the tanker attacks. do you personally have any doubt that iran did this? >> no, i don't have any doubt at all.
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this is good information. the only people you see that are throwing out things like false flag is vladimir putin and the russians and anything they say, usually the opposite is true and trolls on twitter and plus, there say 40-year history of iran doing stuff like this. i don't think they are trying to provoke a response but up to the point so they can look as tough as they can without inviting military action. we don't seek conflict but i think iran needs to be very much understanding that if there is a conflict, it will be one sided and we'll win even though we don't want that. >> the u.s. has had some international support here, the trump administration but it's hardly full throated and there do seem to be suspicions about credibility. do you think that is a result over the issues with honesty, the president had domestically and the failure to build up some of these relationships overseas? >> it could be. it could be. look, one of the criticisms of the president and i think he's doing a good job in a lot of areas but his tone and how you
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talk to allies and reach out and build alliances. allies are extremely important to us. it's not a one-sided relationship but i think look, people have a little -- skiddish from the aftermath of the iraq war and things like that. that's understandable. at the end of the day, we cannot, we must not sell out our national defense and foreign policy to any kind of mistrust like that and i think it's pretty obvious it's iran and most people, you know, frankly can look at this stuff and understand it know that as well. >> i know you're critical of the nuclear deal signed under president obama in the past but as you sit here today and we get the news that iran isn't rich in y u ran yum, are they closer. >> the thing to keep in mind say couple points. first off, we're about half way through the iran nuclear deal before that starts to expire
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anyway. that's in the near future. the obama administration omitted the ballistic missiles and iran's behavior and what we've seen in syria and yemen is iran expanding that. pulling off the sanctions reigned in iran's behavior. i think it was the right thing to do. >> they have a bigger low grade stockpile tonight than they did six months ago. >> yeah, i think they are doing that because they are trying to pressure europe and us frankly to go back to the deal. this is a weak nation that is lashing out. strong powerful confident nations don't put bombs on innocent tankers and so it's obvious they are struggling now. >> congressman, a senior iranian official warned the u.s. or the world that the u.s. and iran are moving closer toward confrontation. do you think that's what is happening here? >> well, you know, any time anything like this happens certainly going closer to
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confrontation. i don't think we're on the verge of confrontation but i do believe that's iran's decision. no matter what the conspiracy theorist say, we don't look for a war with iran but nobody should doubt we would win if something like that was brought to our doorstep. >> adam, thank you for joining us by phone. when you get back to washington and get briefed, call us back and let us know what you heard. >> you bet and my thoughts with anderson's family, too. >> we appreciate it and i know anderson does, as well. >> iran is raising the stakes. an official in teheran will step up enrichment of low grade uranium and it's very serious for everybody in the region. here with me now retired admiral and spokesperson for the pentagon and state department john curvy and fbi senior intelligence advisor and counterterrorism official phillip mudd. both are analyst and i want to start with you. as we heard, the u.s. is sending
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1,000 more troops to reliable and credible evidence that iran is behind the tanker attacks but from your standpoint, from the intelligence standpoint, do you still have more questions? >> i have more questions. i suspect iran did this. i think the evidence is there but if you want to go from i'm 98% certain to 100% certain, i want to see stuff like communications and residue outside the blast marks and whether that can be linked to an iranian weapon and see more about the interpretation of the photographs on those boats. i got burned by the iraq scenario. i want to get from certain to certain but if you want my have a beer opinion, the iranians did this and the information is pretty good about it. >> admiral kirby, you have a ton of experience on this area. you were on tanker escort duty in the 1980s in response to iranian mines. any doubt in your mind as to who is behind these attacks? >> not at all. i've talked to navy officials
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and pentagon officials in the last few days and they can't share with me every scrap of the intel, they are certain about it and i am certain about it. that is a speedboat we're looking at. this is their main marcrch maritime asset and they are more capable now than when i was in the gulf and certainly fits them. i have no doubt at all. >> to phil's point about being burned by the iraq war and we're hearing that from a lot of officials around the world today and adam kin singer made maybe there is credibility issues because of the fact this administration hasn't worked on its alliances now. do you see why there are questions for the trump administration? >> absolutely. totally agree with phil and the congressman's points they do have credibility issues not just because the president doesn't tell the truth a lot, but because there doesn't seem to be
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cohesive foreign policy with respect to iran. the president talks about getting a deal and getting them back to the table. pompeo and bolton talk as if they want regime change. our allies and end froms would be careful before moving forward until they know what the trump administration is about. in terms of my certainty and my comfort level that iran is behind this, i'm 100% sure. i would say one more thing, john. it's important for us to remember that we wouldn't be here having this discussion tonight if it wasn't for some of the foolish policy decisions this administration made designating the terrorist group and increasing the sanctions, pulling out of the iran deal. there is a direct line you can draw between these decisions recently and activities they are having to respond to and forces they have to flow into the region. >> so phil, all of this is only escalating tensions in the gulf. if you're a u.s. ally, what are you thinking tonight as you're trying to make heads or tails of this? >> i'm pretty nervous here.
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i don't think this is an intelligence issue. i don't think the allies are skeptical about the intelligence. they will say that publicly because as soon as they say we're certain the iranians are responsible, they sit down with the united states saying what should we do? we can talk to you mr. secretary of state, if the president decides to do something weird, we're on the hook with you. do you want more security for oil going through the gulf that includes ships that don't have a u.s. flag working in concert with the u.s. navy. we've done that before in the gulf. the message to the iranians has to be this is not you versus us with the europeans and chinese and russians and yjapanese. you can't do that alone. >> really appreciate you being with us tonight. >> thank you. still more to come on our breaking news. two former senior presidential advisors weigh in and also, a new report that the intelligence community doesn't trust the president when it comes to russia.
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two big international stories we're following tonight.
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breaking news this evening, president trump is sending 1,000 troops to the middle east as his administration offers evidence to bolster the case after the attack on two oil tankers. barbara starr said the deployment and aircraft and missile defense for force protection. the other story a new one on the president's strained relationship with the intelligence community regarding russia. bury in a remarkable "new york times" story about u.s. military placing crippling malware, that's commuter software into russia's power grid was this detail. military and intelligence officials say they don't want to tell the president about it. they describe, well the report describes broad hesitation because they are concerned president trump might counter demand it or discuss it with foreign officials. much like he did at the white house in 2017 when he mentioned an operation in syria with the russian am basketbabassador and
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minister. president trump dismissed the story calling it an act of treason and not true. perspective on all of this from two davids, former senior advisor in the obama administration and cnn commentator davidgarrigan, a ve four administrations dating back to president garrigan, what's y r reaction to the news they are sending additional troops to address air, naval and ground base threats? >> whenever american president sends troops to the middle east, the first thing you want to do is take a deep breath and stand back and see if we can resolve this peacefully. we don't want to get into a war with iran. we have all sorts of terrible repercussions destabilizing the middle east but our economy here at home. there are a lot of other consequences. so right now i do think that it's important that the united states share the evidence it has
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on what it claims to be iranians hitting those tankers and share that with our allies, share it with japan and get their consent and when they go to japan for the big g 20 meeting this next week, see if they can get a united front coming out of there so the united states backed up and iran knows we have a lot of friends. >> david axelrod? >> i agree with david and one of the problems here is that we have not treated our alliances very carefully over the last couple of years. there is some doubt being expressed by some of our allies about the quality of the intelligence that's been offered. we've also had a president who cast doubt on intelligence over the last couple of years so then when you want to site it, it creates a dissonance but it's vitally important that the world respond to this threat and not just the united states and that we don't miscalculate the real danger here is as things escalate, there will be a miscalculations on one side or the other and things will get
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away from us and as david said, the volatility of this region gives everyone pause whenever an announcement like this is made. >> so david garrigan, turning back to this "new york times" reporting, this is the commander in chief donald trump being kept in the dark because of the possibility that he might reversion the operation and i'm talking about now the cyber war fair against russians. he might reverse it or discuss it with foreign officials. have you ever seen anything like this where the intelligence community and defense community is keeping things from the president? >> no, not -- well, actually, not since nixon and the closing days of the nixon administration drinking too much and people were worried he would make a bone headed decision. since that time, every decision about sending troops or making major advances and aggressive action like this on cyber, it may well be justified and it's important to remember that the congress and the white house both delegated to the cyber
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command that the defense department did not have to brief the president. it didn't need authorization to the president to act in this way. even so, you know, good governance would require the president to be brought to the president and to have the intelligence community and defense community both saying we didn't brief him in detail because he might have changed course on us or he might have leaked this is to say they are still worried that he has some kind of under misunderstood or secret deal with the russians that he will act in their favor as often as he can. that is very, very disheartening. >> the secret deal would be the extreme end but if they just don't trust the president to keep secrets because there say history here where the president told the russians about a sir dwrin -- syria operation, what does that tell you david axelrod? >> it a big problem and the fact that the national security apparatus of the country believes that he might pull back
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in a response that he might leak this information is very, very chilling and as david says, this cloud still hangs over this white house. >> so david garrigan, cnn's reporting is it's like pulling teeth. that's a quote. it's like pulling teeth trying to get the president to foe cour focus on future attempts. what does it say his team is tiptoeing around for future attacks fromforeign edadversar adversary. it's good news people are taking action. >> look, i think the country is totally unprepared for the 2020 election from everything we know whether it's the national level, the state level and terms of protecting ourselves from this information and from hacking and these other things we simply, this trump administration simply hasn't taken seriously. we haven't been mobilized and had a sense of urgency about this. i would say the cyber story brings out the fact on the cyber
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command has been working to try to contain the russian information and that to me was encouraging. >> david garrigan and david axelrod, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. next, the polling numbers that upset the president so much he denied their existence. just one horror movie catch here, the polls were coming from inside the house. and we're keeping them honest on it. fun fact: 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. and most of that debt is actually from credit cards. it's just not right. but with sofi, you can get your credit cards right - by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. you can get your interest rate right - by locking in a fixed low rate today. and you can get your money right. with sofi. check your rate in 2 minutes or less. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k.
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earlier tonight we talked about what happens when a president, the commander in chief is not trusted to handle the facts that his job and the constitution demand. right now a variation, a president who seemingly cannot face the facts in front of him and denies the facts are the facts even while taking action that would tend to confirm that they certainly are the facts. and if by now you've got that k quesey down the rabbit hole feeling, you've been warned. >> remember, what your seeing seeing and reading is not happening. >> the president last summer, he wrote only fake polls show us behind the motley crew we're looking really good but it is far too early to be focus on that. he's arguably right about the last part. it is early. as for the rest, he seems to be
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saying any polling with him trailing the democratic pact is fake. keeping them honest,cisely when of poll show, most notably his own. internal polling suggestions he would lose the a number of democratic hopefuls in several key states and lose to joe biden by a lot. he was asked about it friday on fox news. >> mr. president, they say like ronald reagan to this point, like bush 43 at this point, you're trailing a lot of these battle ground states as you gear up for reelection. so what -- >> again, it's his own and it tracks with public polling, as well and if you still need evidence, yeah, they do exist and yeah, they are not especially flattering, consider this over the weekend the campaign fired some of the pollsters responsible for them. they shot some of the messengers one source telling us it was done to placate the president
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and another saying it was because they leaked. either way, no one is saying the pollsters got axed because the numbers were as the president says incorrect or as he suggested in his tweet this morning, that they do not exist. more from cnn's abby phillip at the white house tonight. despite what the president said publicly about this polling being fake, your sources tell a different story. >> absolutely, john. they do in fact exist, which is the source of president trump's anger over the last several days. he has been very much fix satedn this issue and reporting of the polling because it seems to show he would struggle if the election were held today and in particular against joe biden. the president wants the world to believe that he is the strongest position today as he has ever been but the numbers just simply don't bare that out and the president's campaign is not denying the poll numbers exist. they are just trying to down play them and say that the numbers are old. trying to say that have done new
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polling, that's not even comparable to the original reporting. they are talking about issue area polling. they are saying they polled certain issues and the president's version of those issues polled better than the democrat's version but that's very different from a head-to-head poll and that's why you've seen the president really lash out here really pushing his campaign to deal with the issue of the leak more so than the underlying problem which is what is going on with president trump and these battle ground states and why is it that at this stage in the presidency with the economy going so well he seems to be having such a hard time. >> to that last point, there is reporting these internal poll numbers were leaked to get the attention of the president, that there is some kind of a problem here. >> that's right. i mean, i think this is one of those ways that sometimes the president's staff tries to talk to him through the media and through the medium he is most likely to listen to when the presidencys reporting about these poll numbers on television, it's really going to penetrate and it in fact did. you know, our sources tell us that this is a sign from the
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campaign the very fact that these poll numbers were released so that the campaign wasn't even bothering to deny them. it was a sign they were concerned about the numbers and believed they had a lot of work to do to get the president where he needs to be and in fact, they started to look to expand the map looking at unconventional places like oregon and new mexico where they can flip so the president can compensate for weaknesses in other areas. clearly, it has gotten the president's attention, particularly the part about him losing to joe biden potentially has gotten his attention and on that point, the campaign also has been trying to get the president to stop talking about joe biden directly to direct his attention more again higenerall democratic field and if they can convince him there is a reason for them to get him off joe biden and stop elevating joe biden they can really get the message to penetrate to him in enough time for him to turn this whole thing around. >> abby phillip for us at the white house tonight. thank you very much.
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joining us now, two seasoned campaigners and contributors, 2016 thiesteve cortez and bar c sellers. there are a million questions. i think think of three. we don't talk about internal polls. number two the only poll that matters is the one on election day and the polls were wrong about me four years ago or two, why do i care now? why lie? why deny the existence of something when your own campaign isn't denying it anymore? >> no, look, first of all, for you to use a charged word lik y like lie, the president doesn't lie. that's very true. that is not a lie to point that out. look, i think also it's healthy for the campaign to be worried if you're not worried you're probably not working as hard as you should be. i don't think anyone involved whether it's the president or me attached to the campaign
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believes this will be a cake walk. we have hard work to do ahead but there are also promising signs and one of them for instance, here is the thing with polls. we can play. i would rather the president be ahead in every battle ground state. it's worrisome to be behind in some of them. at the same time, we have cnn polling that shows 54% of americans believe a couple weeks ago, believe the president will win reelection. that number is higher -- >> so steve -- >> absolutely. you can gave an answer you can give on polling which is different than denying the existence of polls and when he called it fake news, that is what i'm calling was a lie because frankly it was because the campaign is confirming the existence of the polls and the president knows about it. bacari, they seem to be getting under his skin. this is a president when he ran, he loved the polls. we should show reporters the polls constantly. this seems to bother him this
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time. >> he would show the polls that had him ahead did well. one, the president has a fundamental allergy to the truth. he had that his entire life throughout the campaign and as president of the united states. we should not expect anything different right now. but two, i think that there is a big issue and it's been going on since steve bannon was in the white house about leaking. one of the problems that the president had is that individuals found out about these internal polls. these polls are deemed to be internal because they are not supposed to be talked about on cnn with me, you and steve with all due respect and so the fact that we are having a discussion about how poorly he's doing across the country is a fundamental problem this white house had since inauguration day. i don't expect the president to tell the truth about pretty much anything. but in terms of polling, if he fires individuals because they were leaking, that's okay. but if he fired them because of the bad poll numbers, he probably needs to fire other people working on the campaign, not the pollsters. >> what does it say to you that someone felt the need to leak
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those? >> well, i mean, leakers have a lot of different motivation. some can be as positive as wanting to get the president's attention and wanting him to focus how to win this reelection or telling them how bad or poorly he's doing. some could be trying to embarrass. a lot of times you have people there to serve a purpose but see how this presidentembarrassment. at the end of the day, the president has work to do. let me say this, though, to be completely honest with you and steve and everyone. i'm the same person that thought hillary clinton would be president of the united states and so with these polls and everything else, i take that for a grain of salt. i hope democratic candidates are saying look, we have to run hard. >> again, that was my point. that right there is a perfectly legitimate answer when you have polling this bad. steve, you can say what you want. he said there is two ways to run. run scared or run stupid.
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running scared is the only smart way to run a campaign. >> that's why i said earlier. if we're not worried, we're not working. that's very important for this campaign. ronald reagan was down ten points to mondale at this point before the 1984 election when he had a historic route. so things can change very quickly in the world of politics. we need to work hard. thankfully, we have an economy that's a tail wind that will allow us to turn a lot of polls around in a major way and i believe we will. i would caution to bacari's point, the critics and allies in the media who celebrate, we haven't had the kick off and they are dancing in the end zone and planning a champagne celebration in the locker room. i see a lot of 2016 in that and as a trump partisan, i welcome that complacency and we will out work and out hustle and out sell on the record that we have which is the economy. >> i will always note that bacari literally did the opposite of what you suggested.
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i think he said democrats need to be very scared and not count. >> right, i'm saying he made that point -- >> celebrate it all. >> he made that point but there is tremendous celebration going on right now in trump skeptic circles and media and politics and i'm saying their complacency or celebration is a positive sign for us. >> i think people are just watching and reporting. steve, bacari, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. speaking of the 2020 election, which democratic opponent is former vice president keeping his pofocus o these days? may not be what you think. that's next. pnc bank has technology to help make banking easier, like.. pnc easy lock, so you can easily lock your credit card when its maximum limit differs from its vertical limit. and clover flex, for when you need to take credit cards when no one carries cash. or requesting a call to help get a new credit card- one that hasn't followed the family goldfish.
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are concerned with warren's increasing popularity. team biden is also watching the rise of mayor pete buttigieg and his increasing poll numbers. we are joined now by chris cuomo in advance of "cuomo prime time." a multicandidate field. we like to say politics is three-dimensional chess. it's more like three-dimensional whack amole. >> i was going to say, who says it's chess? these days it's more like a bean bag toss. but look, you've got a need-want analysis going on with the democrats. what do they want? what is enticing? elizabeth warren moving with the progressive agenda. they plan for everything. is that part of bernie's support? yeah, it is. putatively it is. but the larger proposition that the biden folks have to keep their eye on is this need-want. he is the need. okay? he's not going to be the want. he's not a shiny new thing. there's nothing shiny or new about him. but do they want to win? is he their best chance? do i think warren is only taking from bernie? no. it's something to worry about. buttigieg is something for him
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to worry about from a generational perspective as well. and him selling what matters to him is a problem for them right now also, j.b. him saying i can win, i can shame the republicans into doing deals. they don't want to hear that on the left right now. they don't want to do deals with the right. they want to fight. so need versus want. >> chris cuomo, thank you very much. we'll see you in just a few minutes. we both need and want to watch. all right. coming up, more on the remarkable life of gloria vanderbilt, anderson's mother, who died today at 95.
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and i suppose this baker sells insurance, too? progressive protects your pets like you do. you can see "the secret life of pets 2" only in theaters. we want to end tonight's program the way we started, by honoring the life of anderson's mother, gloria vndar bilt, who passed away this morning. a lot has already been said and written about her today and more will be tomorrow and in the days to come, but we had i the best story, the best recounting of her life comes directly from her and her son. in the hbo documentary called "nothing left unsaid" did exactly that. >> hi, mom. hey, mom. >> hey, sweetheart. >> how are you? >> are you exhausted? >> i'm tired. i'm all right. >> how do you do it?
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>> why did you want -- why did you agree to do this? >> just because i'm a ham. >> you have -- i saw you have some notes or something. what are those? >> see if you can guess. >> tpio. inep. they're -- what does it mean? >> i didn't want to misquote faulkner. so the past isn't over. it's not even past. and i absolutely think it's true. >> sow feel the past is very much alive -- >> absolutely. >> -- in your plent nuour prese. >> i think it is in all of us, whether we know it or not. i replay scenes. >> scenes of your life. >> yes. as if it's happening. and visually i picture it. and it also influences my painting a great deal.
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and i've reorganized it, so to speak. >> i think one of the amazing things about her, she's been in the public eye at this point longer than pretty much anyone else i can think of. >> and here's the first movie of little gloria herself. frightened by the curious crowd, she flees into her car. money isn't everything. >> and i think the public perception of her to the extent people have a perception of her is very limited. >> whatever else she may have done in life, gloria vanderbilt is best known as the poor little rich girl. >> the delightful gloria vndar bilt. >> gloria vanderbilt. >> gloria vanderbilt is here tonight. >> welcome aboard, miss vanderbilt. you look absolutely beautiful. >> in short, one of the most successful women in america. >> model, actress, and now designer. >> introducing my new collection of status jeans.
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>> i think my mom is a lot more interesting than the person people think she is. you know, she's got this public face. but the reality of her life is so different than what the public face is. >> a remarkable life. the news continues. so i'll hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris. >> all right. thank you, j.b. our hearts go to anderson on the loss of his mother, gloria vanderbilt, tonight. no question. if any of you out there, if you've lost a parent or a loved one, you know there's really little anyone can say to you that's going to blunt the pain. but you know, anderson showed his special gift. he used his skills as a reporter to do that documentary that's on hbo. you've got to watch it if you get a chance. because yes, you're going to learn a lot about a great lady who learned 9 0 -- lived 95 years. but you're going to learn about him too, the son who she loved so deeply and