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reading it. jeanne moos, cnn. >> i read the conclusion. >> new york. >> thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. she's not my type. that is what the president of the united states has just said about the woman who says he sexual assaulted her. she's not my type. which is what one says when a tre friend tries to fix you up, she's not my type but what accused of what amounts to rape. not my type. that's precisely what president trump said not for the first time, either, she's not my type. he said this about his 15th and latest accuser and we begin with her account of the alleged sexual assault she endured she says at his hands and that alone should be compelling enough. at any other time it would be and today it's a larger and more troubling story of indifference. somehow we'll explore the reasons why the fact the president is accused 14 other times of unwanted sexual
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advances or out right sexual assault has numbed people to just how abnormal this is. these kind of acquisitions. when bill clinton was accused two decades ago, it shook the country. now the country slugs as if one allegation is an outrage and 15 are a statistic given he's on tape boasting about he's getting away with sexual assaults because he's a celebrity when this this case the assaults are corroborated by two other people she told at the time, back in the mid 9 0s when e. jean carroll says this happened steps away from trump tower. she writes about it and painful encounters, what do we need men for? a modest proposal. i want to begin by asking you about the latest thing that the president has said just moments a short time ago he gave an interview. he said i'll say with great respect. number one she's not my type and number two, it never happened,
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it never happened, okay. >> i love that. i am so glad i'm not his type. i'm so glad. this is -- this was 20 years ago. and i probably was at that moment in that five minutes the most attractive woman in that one bit of time. >> and you think that's what it was about for him? >> i don't know what it was about. we were -- anderson, we were having a high old time. you remember donald trump hail fellow well met, walking up and down the streets of new york greeting everybody, everybody liked him -- >> you're talking about 1995. >> '95, '96 he was shakespearen, he was great. you'd love to see him on the street. when we met in burg dorfs, i was thrilled. i thought this is hilarious. >> the statement that he said, which he just made which is she's not my type, that was the number one thing. >> i love that i'm not his type.
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>> he said that previously, there was a woman jessica who came forward and he said i think we actually have the tape of what he said and it echoed similar language. let's play what he said about jessica leads in front of a crowd. >> when you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said i don't think so. i don't think so. she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. man. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> he also called miss universe fat, miss piggy i think he called her. miss universe, one of the most beautiful women in the solar system and he called her fat. >> the other thing that he said is that you are totally lying. he said again in this interview, new interview, totally lying, i don't know anything about her. i know nothing about this woman. i know nothing about her. it's a terrible thing people can make statements like that. >> he's denied all 15 women who have come forward. he denies.
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he turns it around. he threatens and he attacks. >> let's talk about what you say happened because obviously, the details of it all matter and this is, i should point out just part of -- this is one person you talk about in your book, this is not a book about donald trump. this is not -- >> no. >> there is not donald trump on the cover. >> no. >> this is about your life -- >> we don't even mention his name. i mentioned his name once in the book. once. >> so you were in -- you say you were in burgdorfs good man. >> i was coming out. >> it's a store you like. >> it's a posh and cozy. >> your face lights up talking about that. >> i was just there today. i just love it. i was coming out and he was coming in. he was standing out and put his hand like this so i did not go through the revolving door. he came in and said hey, you're that advice lady. and i said hey, you're that real estate tycoon. he said come advice me, i want to buy a present. i said oh, for who? he said for a girl.
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so i was enchanted. it was such a great moment. so how about the handbag? no, he doesn't want a handbag. how about a hat? so he strolls -- >> had you pmet him prior -- >> just once briefly. >> that's the photo of -- with -- >> with my ex-husband and he with his ex-wife. a very nice -- it's a very nice -- >> which by the way he said he never met you previously, obviously, the picture we have, you know, tells a different story. >> so we went to the hats and e h i he immediately grabbed a fur hat. i said you can't put a dead animal on your head and i found out all of his women wear those fur hats, ivanka, you've seen pictures. they all wear. so he asked -- i said how old is the young lady? he said how old are you? and i said 52. and he said you're so old. >> he said that? >> of course.
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he said you're so old. and shortly after that, he said i knnolaknow, lingerie. we went to the lingerie department. it was empty. there was nobody on the whole floor, frankly. i think you go through bathing suits and cruise wear. nobody was there on the counter. >> that's going to sound strange to people nobody -- >> because burgdorfs is the greatest store on the earth. they take care of whatever you want, they are there. if you are thirsty, they will bring you water. they will call all over the country to get what you want. it was a moment in time nobody was there. plus, a dressing room door was open, which is very unusual because usually they are locked and the tenant comes and locks it, escorts you in. okay. so on the -- >> so he said lingerie because he wanted you to help him pick
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out lingerie. >> he was not having it with the hats. the hats -- okay. so then we went up. he was going to get lingerie and i am just like oh my -- i can die now forever on this story. we're going to go get lingerie. >> you got to lingerie department and nobody is around. >> there are two or three boxes on the counter, the fancy lingerie boxes and a see through body suit in gray and he snatches it up and says go try this on. i said you try it on. he said no, it looks like it fits you. i said it goes with your eyes. he said no, go put this on. anderson -- >> at this point it's a friendly -- >> joshing. >> i used to be a writer of "saturday night live." i see an entire sketch making donald trump put this thing over his pants. that is what i'm thinking. i am not thinking -- i think it's -- i just -- i was laughing
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as i said it. he said -- he went like this and i walked in stupidly. >> for you, this was a new york moment. >> oh, the best new york -- just like the best new york. donald trump is going to put on a filmy body suit. i thought i'll make him put the pants on. walked in and the minute i was in there, he shut the door and pushed me up against the wall and bang, banged my head on the wall and kissed me. i just -- it was so shocking. i couldn't, of course, i started laughing again because -- >> you started laughing. >> of course. >> why? why of course? >> because it was a way of if it was at all erotic, if a man is laughed at, it usually will make him -- and he put his shoulder against me to hold me against
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the wall and at that point, i realized that i was in a very difficult situation. >> did he say anything? >> no. no. it was just like we're going to do this thing. we're just so hot for each other. or -- i don't -- why would i even try to think what he was thinking? anyway. so he pushed me, held me with his shoulder and i was wearing a coat dress and tights and he pulled down the tights and so that's -- >> with -- he pulled them with both hands -- >> one. and that was when it turned serious. i realized that this was -- this was -- this was a fight. and even though i can talk about it now, and put words to it, at the time the adrenaline is pouring through me and all i want to do -- >> how would you describe -- you
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said you were obviously -- >> fighting. >> surprised, fighting, were you scared? angry? >> i was too panicked to be scared. >> too panicked to be squacared. okay. you said adrenaline was pumping. >> i assume it was. >> right. >> because i got strong enough. he's 6'3" apparently, i looked it up. i was about 6'1" in the massive heels i was wearing and so we were even, almost even in height and down go the tights and it was against my will and it hurt and it was a fight. >> and this is not a question i would normally ask and if you don't want to answer, i totally understand but given the prior accusations which have all been of forms of assault or harassment, you're saying there was actual penetration? >> yes.
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>> did you -- which is -- puts it into a different category of these other women who have come forward. i think technically -- that is -- that is the definition of rape. one definition. >> that's the definition. yes. >> how long -- >> brief. >> uh-huh. >> brief. because when a woman is stamping her feet. >> that's what you were doing, you started stamping your feet? >> i always think back and think that was the stupidest thing i have done. i should have never have done it and then i didn't -- >> when you say you should have never done it. >> it was a dumb thing to go into a dressing room with a man that i hardly know and had him shut the door and then be unable to stop him and i was a competitive athlete so i didn't freeze. i rose to the occasion and it
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did not last long and that's why i don't use the word you just used. i use the word fight. >> you don't use the word rape? >> sexual violence is in every country in every strata of society and i just feel that so many women are undergoing sexual violence. mine was short. i got out. i'm happy now. i'm moving on. and i think of all the women who are enduring constant sexual violence. so this one incident, this one, what, three minutes in this little dressing room, i just say it's a fight. that way i'm not the victim, right? i'm not the victim. >> you don't feel like a victim? >> i was not thrown on the ground and ravished which the word rape carries so many sexual conn connotations. this was not sexual. it hurt. it just -- it just -- you know. >> most people think of rape as -- it is a violent assault.
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♪ "i'm okay." ♪ ♪ more now on my conversation with e. jean carroll. the president said quote she's not my type and said he didn't know her and never met her even though in fact they had met. she's the one on the left with her husband, a local news anchor and the president's wife at the time ivana and the president said flat out she's lying. we were talking about what she says happened in the department store dressing room and more specifically the word she does not use to describe it. before the break, you said you don't use the word rape.
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a lot of women hearing this, a lot of people hearing this who believe you would say this is rape. >> you know, i just have trouble with the word. i just have trouble. i write an advice column for 25 years and women write to me with devastating stories and they have been violently, you know, disposed of by men. and i just -- i feel too much respect for their suffering. i didn't suffer, anderson. i didn't suffer. i didn't loose my job. i wasn't beaten. >> so you say you stomped your foot. >> yeah. >> and then -- >> i had my purse in this hand. the only reason i know i had my purse in this hand is because by the time i got out to fifth avenue, i reached in to get my phone. so apparently was i holding my purse the whole time. >> do you remember leaving the store? >> i remember being out on fifth avenue. i remember going through the
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first floor. out the door. i don't remember which store but i ended up on fifth avenue. >> what is going through your mind in that moment? you've gotten out but what -- >> i felt relief to get the heck out. >> i don't think any guy can understand unless they have been sexual assaulted what a woman goes through. >> i think everybody is different. >> you know, if what you're saying is you're attacked in this place -- >> beautiful place. >> you never expect that you enjoy being in you just -- you think about police? talking to friends? >> i called my friend right away and the first thing she said is jean e. jean stop laughing.
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>> she said i was laughing as soon as i got on the phone. >> you talked to both friends who say that you spoke to them around that time and one of them says yeah, that you were laughing. >> doesn't that just sound totally insane? it sounds -- i guess -- well, that's how i deal with things in life. to me, life is a marriage of comedy and tragedy, right? if you don't laugh at things, you're going to have a hard time moving forward, as you know. the way is to smile, get past it and move on. and that -- you know, that is a great way to handle it. >> you're a writer, though, at the time did you think about writing this? did you -- i mean, did you think about -- >> i wanted to forget it. >> really? >> oh. i didn't -- because i thought a, my fault. b, i was stupid. c, i didn't think of it as the word you're using. i didn't think of it as rape. i thought of it as a violent incident and fight.
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i'll tell you how sptupid i was. i thought i won because i got out. >> the person that talked to you on the phone. they said that they told us that they recommended you go to the police and they offered -- or and offered to go with you. >> to go with me. e. jean i'll go with you. you have to go to the police. you should report this to the police. it was so far beyond me to go home and take a shower and get clean and get in my bed. >> was there a thought you should go to the police for you? >> no. i just didn't want to do it. i'm like, many, many, many other women. a lot of women, it's a personal choice. do you want to go to the police and -- every woman has to decide for herself. >> do you worry obviously you were a public person in new york very well-known writer, you're on television shows. did you worry it would define you in some sort of way?
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>> i think you're right. i think you're right. and that is part of the -- that's interesting. i hadn't thought of that. >> why then write about it now? why not come forward -- >> because i was ready. i was my time. it like well, here is what happened. two years ago, megan and jody cantor astounded the world with weinstein and that started the surge of me too and what happen sd wom ed is women writing wanted to stand up to and should they go to the police? should they turn in their husbands? how about their stepson? i thought oh, my -- two years of this and i thought i am just such a -- what am i doing? these -- my correspondents, i love them. >> you felt -- >> yes.
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>> being fraudulent. >> that's the word. >> you're giving advice and yourself -- >> i'm telling them what to do. >> come forward. >> or not. you can't tell -- you know, not every woman should come forward. >> every situation is different. >> every situation. right. >> so look, when you -- so you decide to write about it again it's just part of a larger book that this is not the subject of the entire book -- >> no, no, no, it's a sliver. it's a sliver. >> you knew -- i mean, you saw -- when jessica came forward and other women came forward during the campaign, did you ever think this is the time i should add my voice to that? >> no, they are doing it. anderson, they were doing it and i watched from the sidelines. you know what? something occurred to me just two days ago when bill clinton was running for president and there was what they called the bill b bimbo explosion. i said what do you think about all these women complaining
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about bill clinton and the governor said it's helping him. i said what? he said watch. it's helping him. >> and you believe all these women coming forward helped trump? >> yes. >> in what way? >> it showed he's manly and takes what he wants and he's rich enough to have any woman, beautiful playboy play mates, porn stars and he's so rich he can pay them off. he can have any woman he wants. i think it plays well. >> e. jean carroll, thank you very much. >> anderson cooper, you're welcome. >> reaction to what you heard and what the president said about e. jean carroll from maggie haberman and laura coats. that's just ahead. here are even more reasons to join t-mobile. 1. do you like netflix? sure you do. that's why it's on us. 2. unlimited data. use as much as you want, when you want. 3. no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees included. still think you have a better deal?
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i'm talking about the latest defense in the latest sexual misconduct allegation against him. he told "the hill" e. jean carro carroll's allegation of rape he said she was not my type and she's lying. here is how she reacted. i'm wondering, the statement he said which he's just made which is she's not my type. that's the number one thing.
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>> i love that i'm not his type. don't you love you're not his type? he also called mis ed miss univ fat, miss piggy he called her. miss universe, one of the most beautiful women in the solar system, he called her fat. >> joining us white house correspondent maggie haberman and amanda carpenter and cnn legal analyst laura coats. thanks for being with us. maggie, the reaction from the president saying he doesn't -- he's never met her and that obviously, this is a picture where they have met. do you -- her response that this plays well, that this actually somehow it doesn't affect the way people see him, do you believe that? >> i was struck by her saying that to you and i think there is something probably to that where there is a portion of people within his supporters who finds
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sort of the idea of being very macho and tough and taking what you want to be appealing. you know, he had a similar statement in response to an allegation in 2016 where somebody had accused him of assault an an airplane. she said she wouldn't be my first choice or something to that affect at a rally. he said a similar statement that's striking because rape or sexual assault or there about power and he makes no distinction between them and the president has been very concerned about allegations against people like bill clinton or harvey weinstein less so when it involves himself or republicans. >> the president tonight saying that quote it's just a terrible thing that people can make statements like that in his original statement on friday night he said that the people should pay dearly for such pulse accusations, some might see that as a threat. i'm wondering what you make of the allegation and the response to it. >> e. jean carroll is not another random woman that donald trump can dismiss.
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i grew up reading her advice columns and what i loved about her and still to this day is that she would lift somebody up and kick them under the butt at the same time. i'll do a little bit of that tonight. people are wondering, are we numb to this? is this different? yes, she is different in 2020 because we the people have so much more information about donald trump's sexual impulses than we did in 2016. michael cohen is in jail right now in part because of lies that he told to silence stormy daniels and keep her truth from the public. he's following the same playbook trying to smear these women again saying there is not -- he's not -- she's not his type. it didn't happen. but for this to matter, people have to make the argument. someone has to put the question before the people should sexual misconduct disqualify a man from being in a position of power? when you put it like that, of usually, the answer is yes.
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but there was a time when the answer was no. that answer used to be no for someone like roger ailes, le lessless moonves. women know her. they know her story. they know the way she's counseled women for so long. when she tells you i came out with this story now because all these women kept asking moe for advice, she's doing what she's done the last 25 years. she's telling her story and help women navigate this time. >> laura, i think amachinda mak good points there are people that will listen to this and discount and say look, there is political agendas. she's selling a book, which is what the president has also pointed out. you know, it is remarkable an allegation like this can be made against a sitting president and having not be the headline of every newspaper, certainly says a lot about where we are right now. >> it does. it also her statements to you
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anderson were extraordinary striking because it really laid out a lot of the preconceived notions and misconceptions people have one about the definition of rain. she thought it was about sexual attraction, which rain is about power and a power dynamic and ex plowation of power. it's little to do with sexual attraction. number two it's the idea of her and what people assume a victim will act like. people have a lot of credibility with e. jean carroll because of the laughter she says she and pressed even in telling a friend and the idea that she felt somehow blamed in her own mind for going into this dressing room with donald trump as a citizen at that point in time. so a lot of these factors, the jury and the court of public opinion look at and say well somebody who says they are not actually a victim, somebody laughing through it can i assign credibility? the real truth of the matter is, anderson, you know, when i prosecuted a number of cases involving sexual assault including delayed reporting, one of the hurdles we also face, not only the jury but the person who
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was victimized, acknowledging when happened to them and understanding the impact of it and we always had to guard against the idea of saying look, a victim comes as they come. you cannot define and explain how they should be acting if in fact she's credible. >> amanda, what you said about this is -- this should be different. this is different. people know her, read her column, just even the coverage of this, though, you know, it -- it hasn't gotten a huge amount of coverage or sustained coverage. >> yeah, even tonight there was news that the "new york times" or new york post was instructed to take down the column because there is people that want to protect trump. these are very uncomfortable questions. you know, i didn't see many democrats putting out statements about this because it's an uncomfortable conversation. but i trust that when you put it before people in a clear way, should men who commit acts of sexual violence, assault against
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women, should they be in positions of power? yes or no. we should not shirk away from this. there is a lot of people that want to duck and cover and hope this will go away because it's hard to talk about and watch a woman's pain. >> maggie, i mean, i don't know if this is -- would make any kind of -- you have more than a dozen people come forward. >> right. >> albeit during a campaign. >> well, except during campaign is actually when people pay a lot of attention to number one to information and this was not just at the end of the campaign. we reported on at the times many months before the election i do think that the issue here in part is that i don't -- i think that voters have largely made up their mind in one direction or the other about this president. i think that if hearing about michael cohen and pay offs to a porn star and an affair did not change people's minds, which polls indicate it didn't. i don't think anything is going to. >> laura, mayor deblos ode blas
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the new york police department would investigate but the statute of limitations expired:it's not retroactive, is it? >> he's offering to reopen the investigation in the event she wanted to go forward and the issue here is even if it were available to her, she's saying that she has decided based on advice of counsel that was approaching her talking to alison today on "new day" that she thought you know what? i'll probably not be able to win this. it's a fool easi's er land to d. that speaks volumes where we are with maggie and amanda. the idea that one would think if they are a victim of sexual assault in this country in 2019, it would be a fool's errand to pursue. >> he once again sales his main democratic rival and his reasoning is interesting. we'll have that ahead.
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intelligence. >> how he doesn't get president obama to endorse him, there has to be a reason. he was the vice president. they seemed to have gonttten alg and how president obama is not endorsing him is a rather big secret. if you know the answer, please let me know and he goes and lies and says i asked the president not to endorse me. give me a break. he says he asked the president because he's embarrassed by the fact obama is not endorsing him. he said i asked president obama not to endorse me. it could be president obama knows something. there is something going on in that brain of his. >> maggie joins me and it's interesting it sounds similar to what he's doing a number of things there. similar to what he did to hillary clinton sort of raising the possibility, throwing out the possibility there is something happening in his brand. >> no, this sounds like we're in late stage 2016 or mid stage 2016 at this point. he's suggesting there say
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medical issue with biden. >> that obama knows about. >> and i can't say but remember his refrain throughout 2016 is there is something going on, folks, that's exactly what this is. he's zeroing in something that's the least credible thing i asked him not to endorse me and they are putting out tweets with best friend bracelets of the two of them however, donald trump did not endorse mike pence recently in an interview, either and i doubt he would say it was because there was something going on in the brain and there was a big siecret about it. there are aare t lot of reasons barack obama may not be endorsing biden. >> but, you know, david, it is interesting though that the president does have a remarkable ability to kind of zero in on something and in this case, you know, joe biden's statement that he told obama and asked obama not to endorse him, which is hard to imagine that is actually true. but the president kind of zeros in on things which, you know, he
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has a point there and then i mean he obviously is now taking it to a medical issue and stuff but it is kind of one of the skills that he has to kind of hone in on a weakness and make the most of it. >> yeah, let me just say first of all, anderson, thank you for giving me so much coverage and miss carroll and allowing the women to have the voices. and the days ahead. in the meantime, the president -- donald trump is a master at planting smears. planting the ideas that he doesn't allow -- he sprouts into bigger ideas and what he is suggesting is she said, he thinks he's off. he's different. he was saying mentally and psychologically, he's less of man and candidate than he was. this is from the same white house and president that was furious with the questions
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raised about donald trump's own mental stability and the president then of course had that same phrase that he's a very stable genius. this is par for the course what we've seen and very importantly, i think it suggests the race we'll have ahead will be a mean and frequently dirty race. >> and does that work, maggie? >> it worked last time. >> all the evidence seems to point to it does. >> negative politics always works. it always has. as we've seen over the last four years, voters don't really hold it against candidates for going negative because they assume all politicians are bad. so there is actually less of a cost for donald trump whose negatives are high already. it's not like he's going to bring his own down that far is his gamble. he can't win reelection based on the math of his base right now. so it can only be through certain advantages of the map and tearing down the democrat and he assumes it will be joe
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biden and i think he thinks joe biden is someone who he knows how to run against. >> david, the president talked about how he doesn't need congressional approval for a military strike against iran and in that conversation, i want to play something he said. >> i have ideas that intelligent people will come up with thoughts i actually learned a couple of things the other day when we had our meeting with congress. >> you know, the -- i guess the members of congress were relieved to know the president thinks they come up with thoughts. the notion how do you think he -- this whole iran thing has sort of played out for the president? >> well, he's doing a fair amount of credit from the left and i'm among the people who are thankful that he didn't send any missiles. i think it would have made the situation much, much worse. this hasn't played out yet anderson. the iranians are about to break out of the agreement itself. this will get harder and tougher in the days ahead and not far away when the iranians will
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start the breakout. so i don't think -- i think it's way too early to make judgments how presidential decision making. we know it's sloppy but what the end result will be we don't know yet. >> yeah, he went on to say he doesn't like keeping congress in his wards abreast and he doesn't have to do it legally. >> i understand that is his view and that is increasingly the view of the white house, congress does not agree and it's been the view of the white house on all manner of things, whether it's these congressional oversight investigations or potential military action. i think this is going to be yet another thing that the democratic held house will have aju adjudicated by the court. >> thank you very much. >> still to come tonight, filthy conditions for migrant kids separated from their families and who the president blames for it. (vo) the insurance institute for highway safety
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weekend about the conditions in which migrant kids are being held in this country. republican congressman called them the worst i've ever seen. a lawyer who visited the facilities in texas told the new yorker, children kept filthy and hungry, denied showers, vice president pence blamed democrats in congress and on nbc president trump falsely blamed president obama and then took credit for ending family separation. let's check in with which i say now. it's amazing that the president is taking credit for ending family separation when, obviously, that was part of their entire policy. >> he likes the harshness of it. they continue to do it. that's the truth. there's a lot of ugly truth here. i have never seen a crisis sense maybe when you were in new orleans talking about katrina that was as openly understood and ignored as this one is. they all know all about it, anderson, and no one is doing a damn thing. we're waiting this week. you have why are they there?
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they are up against it. this is not about abuse that is intentional as far as i know, but that's starting to change. the el paso tent city is much better. imagine if they had money to build a lot more of that that they have been begging for. the federal government was in court arguing that sanitary conditions does not require soap or toothbrushes. that's where this government's head is right now. they're putting a premium on harshness and it's horrible. >> and yet, for this president it pays off. among supporters. >> it does. until somebody finds it's positive opposite as a message. you cannot tell me that americans are happy about harshness against kids. they're not showing you those faces down there for a reason. they say privacy rights, anderson, i must respect these children's privacy rights. if you respected anything about it, the situation would be nothing like this. >> what do you got tonight? >> so we have the campaign
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manager for bernie sanders to test his case about education, how is he going to pay for this, why is it fair. and you know who i have, chloe flower. she flew up the grammys with cardi b. she mixes classic cal music with hip-hop. and she knows all this stuff about human trafficking, she's been doing that work with the u.n. longer than music. >> we'll see you then. president trump crying foul about the 2016 election results, unfounded claims, yes, popularity contest. wog with top airlines to turn their unsold seats into amazing deals, family reunion attendance is up. we're all related! yeah, i see it. and because priceline offers great deals by comparing thousands of prices in real time, sports fans are seeing more away games. various: yeah-h-h! is that safe? oh, y... ahh!
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time now for the ridiculous and tonight it's another entry from president trump's department of grievances. in an interview yesterday, the president repeated his claim that casper the deep state ghost tampered with the 2016 election results. 2016. still talking about it. granted he was responding to a question, but he still took the bait like a big beautiful trump hotel sea bass. >> you didn't like the fact that you lost the popular vote, that bothered you, didn't it? >> again, it's something that's controversial. there were a lot of votes cast that i don't believe. i look at california -- >> mr. president -- >> take a look at judicial watch where california admitted to a
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million votes. >> okay. there are countless ways to respond to that. no one says it better than my favorite standup comic, jenny darcy. >> don't even get me started. white ladies, don't get me started. can i hear it from the sisters? [ laughter ] >> don't get me started. no, you know what, get me started. >> don't get me started. don't even get me started. where have you gone, jenny darcy. get me started. here's the thing, california never admitted to a million votes quote, unquote, whatever that means. it sounds like something whistleblowerer whispered of a now bankrupt casino. even there's no evidence of
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wiped voter fraud, the president's claim was up to no good. despite these efforts such as they were of his voter fraud commission. don't get me started on that. what continues to blow my mind, i've had a couple of wine coolers, he's been hung up on this for nearly three years. the thing is, he won, he won the electoral college which is all that matters constitutionally. he is the president. take yes for an answer. but he's like kind of like a jilted would be prom king who walks around all day listening to the soundtrack of broadway's "wicked." ♪ ♪ popular >> there's a show tune for
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everything. the president would actually love "wicked." it's a total cash cow. it may be difficult for someone to really absorb this but not everything is a popularity contest. regardless of the polls, the raw vote count, he's the commander in chief. he's got veto power and he's still very popular among his supporters and here on the ridiculous. nu news continues when i hand it over to chris. >> i'm chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." the democrats are unloading their big ideas and senator bernie sanders is burning up twitter. free college for all and wiping out all student loan debt in america. time to test the why and most importantly the how
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