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democrats. cnn is told as he prepares, joe biden is studying how bernie sanders sparred with 2016's front-runner. >> i am very glad, anderson, that secretary clinton has discovered religion on this issue. but it's a little bit too late. secretary clinton supported virtually every one of these disastrous trade agreements. >> back to that a bit later, but we begin with the new wring the in the immigration mess, a rebellion on the left that tanked the border crisis. progressive democrats say that money, $4.5 billion, has too few limits and not enough of it goes to guaranteeing better care for migrants. nancy pelosi spent two hours last night listening to progressive complaints. this morning, the speaker seems confident that time and some minor tweaks will prove enough to win over the holdouts. >> will you be voting on the bothered supplementals today? >> no. >> do you think it's going to pass. >> yes.

>> what was your message to the caucus? >> when we bring it to the floor. >> but this uprising on the left adds another potential land mine to an already fragile process. congress goes on recess thursday leaving little time to settle big differences. whatever house democrats can pass considering they can reach an agreement will need to be reconciled with a very different version worked on in the republican-controlled senate. then there's the big riddle, what is the president willing to sign? the president promised mass raids if congress doesn't fix asylum laws by the end of next week. and the debate here in washington comes as new reports put a par sh spotlight on just how overwhelmed the government is and how ugly and unhealthy it's getting in the border and detention centers. the administration says it will only get worse unless congress makes a deal. >> they've got hundreds of children in there. we don't want them in those conditions, either. we want to get them out of there, but we need funding so hss can get the adequate funding

space. specifically with kids, we want kids out of those facilities. kids should not be in those facilities. but, again, this comes down to funding. we've been plead, congress. >> it's pretty simple to me. if you want kids out of those unsafe conditions, pass the darn supplemental. >> let's go straight live up to capitol hill and manu. a revolt on the left. what's going to happen later? >> the speaker has been moving behind the scenes to tamp down that rebellion from the left, a tense meeting from last night with the congressional spanish caucus, congressional public caucus about the concerns that a number of members have that this bill does not go far enough in dealing with the humanitarian crisis and the border did not provide enough safeguards for children as well as essentially encouraging the view of some folks on the left that deportation to move forward, that view, of course, had been rejected by the support of this bill. plus, the speaker moved today to agree to add some additional provisions in this proposal to win over support from the left. and she appears to, at the

moment, be succeeding in winning over her caucus. she emerged from that closed door meeting saying she was confident that it would pass. she she made a plea internally that this was the best way forward. house majority leader steny hoyer told me that he, too, expected this bill to pass today. but there's a big question about how this will eventually be resolved. because the senate bill is different. there's some differences with the house. plus, the white house has threatened to veto the house bill and congress leaves town as soon as thursday for a recess that will push this until after the fourth of july recess and that key office within the health and human services department is bound to run out of money by the end of the month that deals with unaccompanied minors. so can they do this within a couple of days and will that be enough to satisfy the president and will he back off the deportation orders? but at the moment, the house moving forward to push this $4.6

billion bill past the congress today. >> and god forbid they might have to delay their recession to do their jobs. wouldn't that be horrible. with me in studio, cnn's abby phillip, michael sheer with the "new york times," politico's heather cagel. the speaker has to tamp down this revolt. one assumes in the end she will get the votes. but why? >> we saw this bubbling up over the weekend. the bill text came out on friday and they started saying, whoa, wait a minute, this wasn't how it was presented to us last week. so they held a couple of calls. cortez said i'm going to oppose this. you should oppose this. speaker pelosi had a meeting last night to go into damage control. this morning, she was walking around the room saying come outside and share your concerns with me. basically, the progressive spes some of the hispanic members are

wonders that the administration is going to take this money and do what they want with it and not actually help the children. >> to that point, here is what she said to the "new york times," i will not fund another dime to i.c.e. to continue its manipulative tactics. here you go, here is more money, make it better, but keep doing it. it reminds me from a tactic perspective, and they won't like this comparison, but when the tea party members first came to town, they started challenging their leadership on just about everything by voting no. >> you know, you can understand some of the frustration on the part of the progressives. when you see an administration which, yes, is dealing with a crisis, a detention crisis at the moment, they don't have room to put places, but that crisis is not only because there's a lot of migrants coming up and sort of overwhelming the border, but it's also the administration's own determination to keep more

people detained. that's their obsessed with largely because the president is obsessed with the idea of not catching and releasing people. and the process of asylum seeking, when had in the past largely been that you detained people and then you released them while their cases are pending. the administration is increasingly refuse to go release families, refusing to release adults who are seeking asylum and that is contributing to the problem that they don't have anywhere to put them. so the suspicion on the part of the progressives and the people who are opposing this money is, look, if we give them a lot more money, we build them more detention space, it will sort of enable a policy that we think is horrific. >> so nothing gets things done in congress like a flight reservation, essentially, when they have a recess. i said that with a little snark before and i'll say it again in the sense that you might want to to worry about delaying your trip home if you did your job before a deadline. everything in this town is done on a deadline. it happens all the time.

the house democrats want to give some documental aide to border triangle countries. the border administration says no, it wants to cut that money back. there's money to cover some i.c.e. pay shortfalls in one version. in a normal washington, you can figure that out. my question is if they do, will the president sign it? because the president's tweet was -- or will the president sign it and still implement the raids? because his assignment was change laws or i do raids in two weeks. they're not going to change asylum laws in the next week or two. >> so that is not going the happen anytime soon. and it's curious that the president seemed to hang the delay on the raids on that one issue when it does also seem to be the case that the raids had kind of been spoiled from the beginning because he kept tweeting about it and they're supposed to be -- they're supposed to be secret by nature.

but secondly, on this bill, the border supplemental, the white house is hinging their opposition to this on the fact that they don't get additional money for detention beds, which is a problem in the house bill. it's also a problem in the senate bill. and the reality is, that is going to have -- probably going to have to be something that they have to compromise on. and they might be putting out their statement of principal saying we don't like this on principal, but at the end of the day, they may be forced into a kaurnl where t corner where the president has to sign something and that might be something that said mitch mcconnell what it is and that may not be as much detention capacity as they want and this idea that the democrats want to force them to spend money on aid to central american countries. that is also something the white house is hanging their opposition on. >> so i just want to remind people. under president trump, democrats don't like anything he said

about immigration. he's had problems with his own party on immigration. but this particular issue is not new. this is an interview going back to 2014 with the then president of the united states. it may be escalated under trump, but this has been a problem, the united states government has had to figure out a solution to for a very long time. >> the problem is is that under current law, once those kids come across the border, there's a system in which we're supposed to process them, take care of them, until we can send them back. >> so is your message don't come? >> our message absolutely is don't send your children, accompanied, on trains or through a bunch of smugglers. that is our direct message to the families in central america. do not send your children to the borders. if they do make its, they'll get sent back. >> that is five years ago this

very week in the sense that there's a current divide. the current president evokes emotions among democrats. a lot of people weren't happen with that president. they called him the deporter in chief. but this issue has been unresolved for 20 plus years about unaccompanied children. that's a clip from five years ago this week. when? how? >> well, part of the problem is that the obama administration did confront the same problem, but there were lines that they drew for themselves that they wouldn't cross. they wouldn't routinely separate all children from their parents when they crossed the border. that was considered and rejected. they did detain families and were told by a court they couldn't. and their policies were much less draconian when it came to the people seeking asylum in the country. there was anger among democrats towards president obama, but that level of anger has deepened. there isn't a kind of back and forth that you normally have because there is zero ability to

sort of look across the aisle and say we sort of think that everybody is working in the interest of these kids. >> and you hear -- you don't hear much from the remembepubli in the sense that they want to pass their bill. whether it's trade, health care, the republicans aren't sure if he'll agree with it if they compromise. >> there is a fear that they could negotiate something with the house, get it to the president and then they leave town and his hard line immigration aids get in his ear and he tweets something and doesn't sign it and then they're gone for a week and these children continue to suffer. that's a problem they have with basically any issue. but i think what we're seeing is both in the house and the senate, the reporting of these wretched conditions that these children are in have moved them to try to get something to the table. even last week, folks on both sides of the table are saying there's no way we can get there

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to what he calls an ignorant and insulting statement from iran. any attack from iran on anything american will be met with great and overwhelming force. iran said they had no interest in negotiate, this president or his team. >> translator: they have become frustrated and confused. they do not know what to do. they do strange things that no sane person in the history of world politics has done, or at least i don't remember. this is because of their total confusion. they have become mentally disabled. the white house is suffering from mental disability. >> the president anchored because he thinks he did a nice and compassionate thing. he called off military strikes that were recommended by his advisers and that is highly -- whatever you think of president

trump, for a president of another nation to use that kind of language about a president of the united states, you can understand why the president is upset. that doesn't mean you go to twitter and vent it. where are we now? >> i think this is something the president took very personally. rouhani says things all the time. they don't always respond this way. trump told john bolton, he said, to get the message out to iran that they would face overwhelming force. the president is clearly anchored by this. in his rhetoric, he's changing his strategy. but, again, we are still where we have been the whole time. iran did use force against a u.s. asset and they threatened to use force against another u.s. asset. the president decided in that moment not to use force against iran. that is the decision that is on

the table that everyone is looking at saying well, is president trump using this rhetoric and unwilling to actually carry it out? i think that's where the world is right now as they try to decide how much fight is behind a lot of these words that are coming from the president. >> and the president, his view of this is i decided no, i decided it wasn't proportionate to bomb raid or missile installations. he was told maybe 150 people would die. he said i'm not going to do that because they shot down a droid. he thinks that is an act of de-escalation. now he is anchored that iran's response is to tell him to go away. >> but he's gone from that to oh brit ragz. that quick switch is, you know, going to send the rest of our allies who have been watching this situation closely in somewhat of a panic or confusion and it reminds me of what happened with north korea where we saw the president switch off from taking a tough rocketman

approach to trying to go more diplomatic. >> and john bolton is in the middle east on a very difficult mission. the israeli government, the united states government trying to get the wrurussian governmeno join them in a stance against iran. >> we convene at a particularly critical moment in the middle east as the radical regime in iran and its terror surrogates engage in yet more rounds of violent provocations abroad. all around the middle east, we see iran as the source of belligerence and aggression. at the same time, the president has held the door open to real negotiations. all that iran needs to do is to walk through that open door. >> the iranians see bolton and

they say no because they don't think there is anything on the other side of that door. but that's what the iranians say, there is no reason to walk through that door because that guy is going to be there. >> not only do they see bolton on the other side, but they also see trump. they don't know what to believe about trump. part of what you have to understand about the way he reacts to things is president trump's reaction is what the response is going the be to what he did in the next five seconds, not the next, you know, five weeks or five years. he doesn't think long-term. so the extent that he was happy at the response he got when he pulled back on the strikes, that medicine him happy at that moment. but now he's looking at a different response so he goes over to oh brit ragz. but from the iranian perspective or to that matter our allies, they don't know which to believe. where is the president's line when it comes to iran?

sift obliteration? that's confusing and it makes for a lot of -- >> in part, you look at the president's words today, read them on twitter and then compare them again. saturday, the president talks about his views and he sounds more, shall we say, moderated. >> john bolton is doing a very good job. but he takes it generally a tough posture. but i have other people that don't take that positive teture. >> they have intelligent people. they'll come up with some thoughts. i learned a couple of things the other day when we had our meeting with congress which were, i think, helpful to me. but i do like keeping them abreast, but i don't have to do it legally. >> yes, bolton is a hawk, but i make the decisions, the president is saying. i have them at the table, i

think i have the legal authority to retaliate, but the tone there is very different from obliteration. >> there is a fear on the hill that trump will be provoked by the comments we saw overnight. there was a wave of relief on friday that he called off this military strike, but alarm that no one had bothered to tell speaker pelosi ahead of time. and we saw her come out after that and say in no uncertain terms you have to have permission from us if you want to evngage in military conflict. that's her way of trying to nudge him into at least keeping them in the loop and talking to them before making those decisions. >> the other side of that coin i would argue is a lot of democrats, even some republicans, blame trump for the poisonous atmosphere, but iran did mine those ships and shoot down a drone. right now, it's tough rhetoric. up next, elizabeth warren and policy plans.

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has been able to confirm some of those cyber attacks were, in fact, launched late last week against a group that is one of iran's proxy groups. they have a large number of fighters in iran, also in iraq and syria. what they went after was their networked communications. this was a cyber attack to try and keep this proxy group from being able to communicate among itself and with its leadership back in iran at this very sensitive, tense time. now, we don't know yet how well the cyber attack worked. we don't know how much of their communications have been brought down. cyber always very appealing because you keep u.s. troops safe. you're not in a situation where you're bombing. but it's an intelligence risk because sometimes you want to keep the adversaries communications going so you can eavesdrop, so you can listen in, so you can figure out what they're up to. but this time, they wanted to give the president these options

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senator elizabeth warren today looking to cement her role in the 2020 democratic presidential race. this plan she says would protect national, state and local elections from foreign and domestic meddling. she proposes streamlining voting machines, ballots and security mandate usage of these across the country. she's offering incentive to states that end up boosting voter turnout. and she put a new federal group in charge of ensuring compliance. the price tag? senator warren saying it would cost $20 billion over a decade

and she says a tax she plans on the ultra billionaires will cover that cost. it's almost certainly something she will try to showcase at tomorrow's debate. it is the first debate night. she will not be on stage with the other front runners, no bernie sanders, no joe biden, no kamala harris. she will be center stage which is the first time a woman would be center stage in the debate. hillary clinton was in the primary debates, but this is the first time for a woman in the middle. how important is this particular plan or is it the whole idea that she wants people to think she's the candidate with the most plans? >> it's the fact that she has -- not just the fact that she has the most plans, but the fact that she's talking about these plans and how she's talking about them on the campaign trail. so if you go to any of her town halls, she's figured out how to condense her plans and ask questions. no matter what they ask, she's able to discuss whether it's a corruption plan or any of her

plans that she's put out. it will be interesting to see if she is able to do that on the debate stage with limited amount of time with so many other candidates to deal with and how she's able to bring up this plan in particular which is interesting because it mentioned election security in particular which is something that even congress is currently negotiating. obviously the president made news on recently by saying he's not ruling out using materials obtained by foreign interference. so, you know, she's made some news on this plan in particular, but it will be interesting to see how she talks about it. >> and to that point, i just want to show our viewers, if you look at the lineup, there will be ten candidates and the second debate is the next night. beto o'rourke, governor inslee, senator booker on the other side of senator warren and former housing secretary congressman ryan, mayor de blasio. she is the leading candidate from a polls perspective. she is the leading candidate in this debate which gives her an opportunity. she's a practiced, polished

debater going back to her high school days. it's an opportunity. is it a bit of a challenge in the sense that if you're one of the lesser knowned cans and you know elizabeth warren is on the rise right now, you want to put a target on her? >> yeah. this second debate will be interesting because i think all of these personalities are desperate for a breakout moment. so there is the possibility that someone could break through and shine and they might be able to do it without trying to tear her down. it might be risky to do that in this context. but she is not only center stage. she's the top of the field in that second debate. but she also -- >> first debate. >> sorry, the first debate. but she's the most experienced, i think, of all of those people in terms of communicating what she's about. communicating her platform. and i think that that is going to be the biggest challenge for the other folks, particularly someone like a beto who has a lot of charisma, but does not have as much experience explaining what he is about and what he is for.

so, you know, the challenge is going to be how do you shine when elizabeth warren is kind of there and everybody really already knows what she's about, bhash wants to do and she's skilled at communicating it. that's where she does -- that's where she does best. and i don't know that it's going to be a smart idea for people saying she has a target on her back, i'm going the attack her or go negative in any way. >> i agree with that. and i think her skills at communication r formidable. but she's somebody who really yesh is having more time to deliver a kind ooh more full approach. and let's face it, these debates are about one liner. president obama once, i covered a town hall of his where he delivered a 17:30 minute town hall question. it was insane. and she is better than that, but you go to her town hall meetings. i gather she's very good.

s have professor orial in the s way obama was. the people that succeed will be the ones who condense that into one sharp, biting line. >> is there anyone on this stage, senator warren to her credit, you don't have to agree with the policies, if you want any candidate to be specific, what are you going to do? how are you going to pay for it? how would it work? you can disagree with it on the policy or how much it's going to cost or whatever, but to her credit, she's laid out these plans. is there anybody on this stage who is going to make the argument that if she was the nominee, the republicans can make. now you're saying more power in washington. in your college plan, you put power in washington. in this plan, you put power in washington. is there anyone on this stage that is going to make the case it's too much power in washington? >> i think you can look at clo klobuchar for that, right? >> klobuchar or you could see

someone like tim ryan who is a little bit more moderate, also bring that up. but, you know, i think its will be interesting to see if they use names, if they attach that criticism to elizabeth warren or bernie sanders or if they just talk about it more broadly. >> i think it's risky like we were talking about earlier to try to take her down this stage. when you have very little time to introduce yourself to begin with you know? and you want the voters to walk away and remember who you were, not that you were attacking elizabeth warren. probably. >> let's remember we're in a primary setsing, so a lot of her plans are popular with democrats. we'll see. i can't wait. as we go to break, the vice president of the united states, mike pence in south florida, right now launching what is called the latinos for crump coalition. >> hola, miami. >> welcome to the kickoff of one of the most important coalitions of the 2020 campaign.

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welcome back. breaking news just in to cnn, the first lady of the united states, melania trump announcing her communications director stephanie grisham will take over as the white house press secretary, a bigger job that will include the east wing. here is the tweet. i'm pleased to announce that stef grisham will be the next white house secretary and comms

director. potus and i can think of no better person to serve the administration and our country. kate bennet joins us on the phone right now. kate, you know stephanie grisham well. you know this white house, sarah sanders leaving within a matter of days here. why stephanie grisham and why for what sounds like a much bigger job than this white house has had. >> i think for a few reasons. mainly, stephanie grisham has been someone the president trusted since she joined the campaign back in 2015. clearly, she's one of the longest standing members of the trump administration. this isn't that much of a surprise considering what is a vocal mouthpiece stephanie grisham has been for melania trump, whether it was calling for the firing of member of the west wing staff or descendifende first lady as she remained

silent during the stormy daniels issue or the kidney procedure she had last year. i deal with her probably more than any other reporter. she's a straight shooter. no word yet on whether she'll be back press briefings. clearly this is somebody the president feels she can trust. she will stay on for a spokesperson for the first lady in addition to this new role. that's new and unprecedented. we'll see how that goes. this news for the first lady is an indicator that she supports grisham's move to oversee the west wing communications. >> the timing, obviously, is obvious in the sense that you're putting a very loyal person to both the president and the first lady in this job as we head into a very contentious re-election campaign cycle. this is not a criticism of stephanie grisham, it's more of a question of curiosity. this job has changed a lot under this president. am i right, no prior government experience before she came into the trump administration in terms of if you're the white

house communications director or the white house press secretary, you're on the phone with the pentagon, you're on the phone with pick your agency in the united states government every day dealing with, hey, what's the day-to-day business, but b, the crises that pop up in any administration. >> yeah. that's an excellent point. before she joined the trump campaign, she worked in local arizona politics, typically on the republican side. she did briefly work for the mitt romney campaign in 2012. she has a lot of experience in terms of being a spokesperson. but as you mentioned, this is a huge job. this is overseeing a contentious white house, a president who tweets at will, a very divisive time in the climate of the country as we go into the election season. it's a big job. but clearly, this is something he feels she can handle. she will be joining the president as we go to asia this week, i've learned, and starting the job pretty much right away. >> kate bennet, stay with us if you can. we'll bring the conversation into the room, as well, and,

again, back to this having covered the bhous for ten years. i want somebody the president can trust, you want someone who understand them, understands their language, understands their rhythm and their reflexes. from that case, it makes perfect sense. are they creating this uber job inspect the white house communications director, former fox executive bill schiene left months ago. sarah sanders, the second press secretary who lost a lot of credibilities for statements that just aren't true and b, for pulling back the availability of what was traditionally an open white house briefing. what is the climate for stephanie grisham? >> the shine in this administration is always short lived. and i think you always have to sort of look at these positions from that perspective. because she's getting the biggest job of anybody who has been inner this roles. the president has cycled through multiple press secretaries and communications directors repeatedly in some cases tiring of them, deciding they weren't doing a great job and taking on the job himself largely.

and so it's a lot of responsibility for stephanie to take on the press secretary job and the comms director job. and i think sarah sanders survived in that position as long as she did with the president's favor in part because she turned inward. she changed that role profoundly because it was necessary in order to satisfy the president. you have to turn that role inward. it becomes less about communicating to the outside world than it is about managing the president himself. in some ways, stephanie is well positioned to do that. she is close to one of the people who is closest to the president and understands melania trump who many people do not understand very well. so it puts her in a good position to do that. will it change the perception of the white house from the outside? i tend to doubt that. >> and it's important. it's just important to remember how different this administration does the communications department and the communications business than any other administration. because the president thinks he's the best communications

director and he's his best spokesman. abc, nbc, a couple of phone calls into fox there, as well. he believes he is the best person to do this job. stephanie grisham taking the job. just into cnn, the acting commissioner of customs and border protection is stepping down. john sanders is his name and he has resigned. evan paris joins us live with the details. why is he leaving? >> that's not exactly career at this moment. but this adds to the turmoil that we've seen in recent months at the department of homeland security. kevin mac lean is now the acting chief over there. now once he moved over to lead the homeland security department, john sanders stepped up to lead the agency. and now he says that he is leaving. now, we don't know exactly what played a role in this, but priscilla alvarez and geneva

sands are learning that this coming soon. as you pointed out, there's been these conditions of children being held at stations at the border by the cbp that has garnered a lot of negative controversy for the homeland security department. so we don't know whether that played a role in john sanders' decision to step down. we expect that we're going to hear a lot more of this. obviously, the homeland security department and the administration has a whole have been defending their handling of what they say is an unprecedented crisis at the border. so they say they defend their treatment of these children. obviously, now, though, there's a lot more attention to what exactly has been happening. so john sanders is on his way out at the customs and protection border agency and we'll see who is next up to bat. robert perez is the dpueputy director there. maybe he'll be the new acting commissioner. >> and i'm going to try to

connect the dots here because i believe they can be connected. this is another example of how the unorthodox management style of this white house. we were just talking about a new press secretary, new communications director. this president has a policy problem which could become a political problem at the border. how much of it is attributed to the fact that he turns over his department of homeland security. he says he wants to have a border czar. he has people at the white house, people at these agencies who are compete, each other about a very important issue to him, a defining issue to him. border enforcement at a time when if you pick up a newspaper or go online, whatever your views on immigration, there are children being held in detention centers that are a mess and unhealthy and unsafe and overcrowded. >> i'll tell try to add another way to connect can can the dots. everything that -- for president trump about how this government is run is filtered through the idea of personal loyalty to him. and when -- you know, you covered previous presidents.

i did, too. there are established policy processes that separate the two things. there's loyalty and then there's how the government runs. and whether it is the way a press secretary balances the interests between loyalty to the president and, you know, sort of fielty to the freedom of the pretty and getting information out or whether it's the way homeland security officials have to be insulated from the president's whims so that they can address deep fundamentalal concerns like what the safety of children at the border. when you strip away all of the processes that normally protect and keep those two things separate and all you have is loyalty to the president, that's when you start getting turmoil, people leaving, all sorts of infighting and the administration and the agency is not understanding kind of what they need to do because all these keep looking at is the president's twitter feed. >> and so -- and don't take me

minimizing this because of the crisis and the children involved, but you have a who's on first moment if you will with regard to border policy. who does the president trust? steven miller, the border czar, you have a new white house secretary press communications director where the president has a lot open policy issues before him and a complicated re-election campaign right in front of him. >> it's just impossible in a lot of cases on the border to please president trump. it has made it difficult for a lot of these officials who are already in tenuous acting positions to do anything in their roles. it's been extremely difficult for all of the officials, including for kevin mac lean of dhs. when the president goes on twitter and announces things that haven't gone through a process, haven't been worked out yet. so we will see what this is all about. but it could not be a more tenuous time for this. and i think it illustrates the fact that president trump does not really have a policy strategy for the border, but he

does lash out at his officials when he feels things are not going the right way. he wants certain things done. he wants them to stop the fly of migrants coming up from central america. these things are not done overnight. but it's very difficult to make him see that and so accept that there is a process for a lot of these things. it makes these folks' jobs very, very difficult. >> i want to come back to this stephanie grisham appointment for a moment. giant policy issues with the united states congress. her job, i'm just trying to figure out exactly how she will fit into this ball, if you will. in the old days, the press secretary dealt with today. the press secretary every day called every agency around the department, what is good, what is bad, the communications director is dealing with the long-term, the president going to the g20 in osaka, the communications director would have spent the last month figuring out what are the big issues, what are the opt ics. are we in a world where i

suspect part of the reason you put a loyal person in this job at this time is the president's campaign apparatus will be doing a lot of communications work, if you will. and that always happens. and there's sometimes tensions between the work of government and the work of campaign. is it easier at this moment to do this? is that the right word? >> the communications department has been shrinking in the last year and a half significantly. so it has -- it's now full of the president's most loyal, most trusted advisers. so they are not really thinking long-term necessarily as much. their job is to get through the day, look at the president's tweets, make sure everything is going okay and move on to the next day. and i think the re-election campaign will start looking at more of the long-term stuff, but, you know, it is president trump and he tends to focus more on what's happening during the day and responding to his political opponents more so than, you know, a long-term policy priority. >> i think the common theme of royalty coming up, loyalty to

him, every president deserve aes local staff. the question is does this president take it over the top. thank you. four or international interviewers, amanpor is next. for those in the united states, brianna keilar is up next. i'm brianna keeler live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, in america as migrant children go without soap, toothpaste and sleep, democrats fight among each other over funding to fix the problem. and after tehran mocks the mental fitness of the trump white house and vows to end diplomacy forever, president trump threatens iran with obliteration if it attacks anything american. the struggle to stand out on an extremely crowded debate stage. so how will the two dozen democratic candidates do it? at least one is studying debate performances of president trump and his former gop rivals for a lesson on how to break through. and from