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and his daughter angie washed up on the mexican side of the river. they were from el salvador and drowned trying to cross into the country, drowned trying to cross into the united states. had they made it, they might have faced a difficult and dangerous future. what has become keeping them honest a human disaster involving the conditions these migrants face in u.s. custody especially kids. there are kids living in fifth and crowded together and caring for younger children. they are living this way because the number of people crossing the border in decisions made in washington and policies set at the top. a guest who joins us momentarily, a pediatrician describes it this way. children being held in conditions comparable she says to torture. extreme cold temperatures, lights on 24 hours a day, no adequate access to medical care or basic sanitation or adequate food. or water. those are the conditions being reported to her. some of the people responsible, you'll see simply don't
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acknowledge that as they compare the influx of migrants to a storm or flood or a tide as if this all fell from the sky or rolled in from the sea. the end of the day, though, this is not an act of god. these are people, poor people, young people and whoever you think about the case they may have for coming here, they are here. they are now in custody here and those words in custody don't just mean are being held, they mean in the care of or as webster's has it, the act or process of preserving in safety, which is not what is happening. we and others reported on it. here is what the "new york times" wrote after children's advocates visited the facility in clint, texas where we learned 250 kids had been taken out of because the overcrowding was so bad. this is also the facility where today we learned that about 100 kids have to be returned to. quoting now from "the times" most of the young detainees have not been able to shower or wash clothes since they arrived at the facility.
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those who visited said they have no access to toothbrushes, tooth paste or soap there is a stench said director of the immigrants rights clinic at colombia law school, one of the lawyers that visited. the overwhelming majority of children have not bathed since they crossed the border she said. there is a stench she said speaking literally of human beings living worse than animals because animals at least have the means to clean themselves. she might have well been speaking figuratively coming from the places where the people responsible are failing to take responsibility. today john sanders acting commissioner of customs and border protection stepped down. an official unnamed tells "the times" it's not clear whether his departure is or is not related to the revelations of the facile 'tils and the acting head of ice in another acting capacity. today his boss was asked whether he asked acting commissioner sanders to step down. >> i doesn't think i've ever spoken to him. we have very good people running
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it and, you know, i don't know anything about it. i hear he's a very good man and person. i don't know him. i don't think i ever spoke to him. >> he's heard good things about him. this official responsible for enforcing the tough border policy. but he's never spoken to the man, doesn't even know him. for all the president's tough talk on the boarder, he's never spoken to one of his front line officials apparently or perhaps he's doing what he did with paul manafort barely knew him. michael cohen wasn't really important or george papadopoulos the coffee boy and perhaps it's not so bad the president might be acquainted with an official carrying out the policy and seems confused about the policies that began this cycle of kids in custody. zero tolerance enforcement that separated families at the border. the policy has been abandoned. he still maintains falsely the last administration was responsible for it and that he, president trump actually ended it and now in a new twist, this is what is driving the latest influx of families.
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>> you know, under president obama you had separation, i was the one that ended it. i said one thing, when i ended it, i said this is what will happen. more families will come up and that's what happened. >> again, keeping them honest. the zero tolerance policy that produced family's separation was conceived and executed by the trump administration as a deterrent. they admitted that. not the president. as for the current influx, experts say there are many factors driving migration through mexico from central america's northern triangle countries. it starts in those countries and president trump said he's cutting off aid to them or wants to which used to go to improving conditions there and trying to reduce the reasons to leave. it continues through mexico which is only sporadically guarded the southern border but right now seems the main problem the influx of migrants into detention facilities and officials talk tough but don't seem prepared to deal with the consequences of it. that is unless dealing with it
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means awkwardly chuckling while shifting blame elsewhere. >> this is again -- we have money to give tooth paste and soap and blankets to these kids right now we do. >> of course we do. >> why aren't we? >> my point is it's all part of the appropriations process. >> part of the appropriations or part of the stench. from dr. dolly a pediatrician that recently visited the detention center in mcallen, texas. what exactly did the kids you talked to tell you about the conditions that they are being kept in? >> they have very similar stories. they all reported that the lights were kept on 24 hours. i think that was the most uncomfortable thing for them but, you know, the stuff that alarmed me the most like i mentioned is that they all reported no access to hand washing and equally alarming was the mothers with infants drinking formula from a bottle
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reported no access of washing bottles for infants. >> were you able to see, you know, the areas that they are kept in? because i understand the room you were in there was some sort of wet wipes and things that could be used for cleaning. were you able to see other areas? >> no, we did ask for access into where the detainees were being held but denied. the area i saw was very clean. it was an office space that's where they did their work but it just stood out that at every single workstation there must have been 12 or 15 computers in the room. there was a hand sanitizer and a container of clorox wipes. clearly, the border patrol officers are worried about getting sick, which i understand but it's just incomprehensible why that concern is not extended to the detainees that are in the crowded space themselves. >> you also write about seeing
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evidence of trama in these kids. can you explain what the evidence was, how you came to that conclusion? >> yeah, the evidence i saw was entirely based on their behavior. they were all responding in an appropriately for their age. they were all extremely fearful, which i understand considering the circumstances but then after that extremely subdued in that they allowed me to examine them easily, which is completely unexpected and inappropriate behavior for their age. the three children that were unaccompanied in the daycare setting had more evidence of trama. one of them when he came to the room where i was was breathing heavily the entire time and i asked the coast guard officer and she said no, he just started doing this. i think that trama was from seeing his teenage mother he hadn't seen in three weeks, the person he came into the center with but initially there was no bonding.
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he didn't run to his brother. there was looking straight down and panelling. -- panting. the two other girls alone kept repeating the same statement. they said my dad is getting the papers, my dad is getting the papers and that's all they kept going back to and inappropriately i would say. >> is this anything what you expected it to be? i mean, did you expect to find this? is it better, worse than you anticipated? >> some things were better and some were worse. the hygiene i'm dumbfounded by because if you don't care about the humanity and thinking of dollars and cents, it's cheaper to get soap than send people to the e.r. or quarantine them with flu. that's common sense. you don't need a doctor to tell you washing your hands will reduce the spread of infection. that i was completely dumbfounded by. the bottles, that feels reportable to cps. really, it is.
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i had a parent come to my office and say they are not washing formula bottles for days on end, i would be concerned about the child's safety at home. that i was floored by. the human decency i did see, i mean, the coast guard officer i saw was lovely. there was a lady who was cleaning the bathrooms when one of the unaccompanied kids, the 3-year-old walked out. she said hey, and named her by her first name and gave her a big hug. there is good and bad. like anything else, it depends on who is showing up for work and how as a human with basic human decency treating the people they are there to protect. >> appreciate you being on. thank you. >> no problem. thank you. >> as we said at the top, there is action in congress on this tonight. the democratic controlled house expected to vote on about $4.5 billion in funding for the border situation. the white house is threatening a veto.
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joining us now is democratic senator jeff merckly of oregon he serves on the foreign relations committee. and spend considerable time on the boarder. i want to start by asking about the photograph that we showed earlier, a father, his almost 2-year-old child that drowned trying to cross into the u.s. obviously, the passage is incredibly dangerous for many people. when you see something like this, the reality of the situation for so many it's hard to ignore. >> anderson, this father, this child were victims of american metering where they attempted to cross at a port of entry reportedly they were refused the ability put back into mexico and where they had no family, no friends, no resources so they did what so many others try to do in that situation and say we've just got to try to get across the border and that means some people who approached the
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wall, crossed the river and in this case, we don't know all the specific details but it's my understanding that this is a family that was rejected at the border. >> we just heard about some of the conditions that the doctor heard from some of the children at facility in texas. who is to blame for all of this and why -- is it just a question of numbers of people and that they are just, that these facilities aren't set up to deal with that or what is the problem? is the breakdown? not having soap and tooth paste seems a ridiculous problem. >> this is a huge level of incompetence and lack of compassion. the standards for sanitation, food, medicine for water, for
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cleanliness have been violated repeatedly and seems like intentionally. i think any american would be horrified to see these conditions. these are things that are fairly easily remedied with bottles of water and soap and access to a bathroom, with taking small children who have a medical condition and getting them to medical care. i don't think we can simply say that it's the level of the influx. i just think that we need to have a thorough investigation of what has happened and hold people accountable for failures, whether intentional and deliberate. this is absolutely unacceptable. >> what do you make of the president's comments saying he didn't know the acting head of customs and border patrol that he had never spoken to them, you know, he clearly has made being
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tough on the boarder or what he considering tough on the boarder to be a major part of his administration, i can understand them not knowing a lot of lower level front line officials but the acting head of customs and border patrol you would think he would know who that person is. >> absolutely. with all of his attention on the boarder, you would expect he would have heads in there of i.c.e. and department of homeland security and head of customs and border protection. we got to solve these problems. what resources do you need? we're moving them over. take care of these things. under line administration's approach has been the argument that if people suffer as immigrants, it will discourage them from immigrating. that was the base of child separation. mistreat or inflict trama on children and it will discourage immigration. so when you start from that perspective, there isn't this sense we would expect of our government in which they are doing everything possible to address these problems. they are not doing everything
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possible and the result is the horrific conditions we're seeing now. many of these conditions would be neglect and prosecutable in any other setting. >> senator, appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. just ahead in the wake of the most recent assault allegation against president trump, i'll talk with jessica leeds who went public with her allegation of assault in the heat of 2016 campaign and later, the aftermath of emotional meeting on capitol hill between first responders of 9/11 to senator mitch mcconnell. >> we're satisfied. are we happy? no. we're -- [crying] >> we're going to leave here and alvarez is going to die. whoa. travis in it made it.
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are defending the president of keeping radio silence and gop senators say new york writers revealed sexual assault allegations against president trump should be looked into. senators mitt romney of utah and joni of iowa said the assertions made by advice columnist e. jean carroll should be examined. on the program i talked at length with miss carol that reported two decades ago the president sexual assaulted her in a new york city department store. she also reacted to the president denying her accusation saying quote she's not my type. >> i'm wondering, the statement that he said which he just made which is she's not my type is the number one thing. >> i love i'm not his type. don't you love you're not his type? he called miss universe fat. miss piggy, i think he called her. miss universe. one of the most beautiful women in the solar system and he called her fat. >> 15 women over the years made sexual assault allegations.
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one of them is jessica leeds that went public during the closing weeks of the 2016 campaign and it didn't take the president long to go after her. >> when you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said i don't think so. she would not be my first choice that i can tell you. man. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> joining me tonight is jessica leeds. jessica, were you surprised to hear the president essentially kind of using the same words against miss carroll that he used against you talking about appearances and that, you know, he said she's not my type about carroll. >> i was not surprised. he is set in his ways and he
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really needs a new script, but he's not going to change. >> it's interesting with miss carroll that his first thing -- he said i'm saying this with respect, the first thing he said is she's not my type and then, you know, that it's not true and that she's lying. the idea that that's the first thing one would talk about is the appearance of the person is interesting. >> yes. yeah. that's a common thread through all the other episodes that have come to light. he lies so much that he really is incapable of recognizing this situation as it literally exists. >> i remember when you and i first spoke back in october, it was of 2016, you told me that you knew when you came forward that the president would comment about your looks and that's intentionally why you came
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forward, you showed pictures of yourself when you were the age of the incident that you say happened. that was already in your mind. you knew that's what he would do? >> absolutely. absolutely. my experience with men like trump, they cannot see themselves in the mirror. they don't recognize their own ageing so they can't recognize the ageing of other people, of women and they really basically are only attracted to younger women, to young women. >> when you came forward, you know, and again, this was in the -- during the campaign and other women came forward and would, were you surprised by the response and also by the lack of response and i'm wondering what
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you make of the response to miss carroll's allegation as well, the public response of lack thereof? >> i was totally amazed at the response that i got because 100% support. i never ran into anybody who criticized my story or who gave me a hard time. i was surprised at this new story that it got any attention at all and, you know, thank you for giving it some time because it's still an important issue. >> you said you had great interactions with people face-to-face. obviously, there was a lot of coverage that was, you know, probably quite -- that was questioning what you -- your allegations. would you recommend that women come forward? >> yes, i would encourage women
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if they feel strong enough. you know, we're so encultured to make it our felt. fault. miss carroll took responsibility to be stupid enough to go into the dressing room, so she feels and she's a strong woman. she wants to feel in control of her own life and what's happening and of course, the fact is he's bigger, he's stronger and he raped her and she whether or not she wishes to acknowledge that, that's exactly what happened. >> do you wish she had come forward at the time that you and other people came forward? would that have somehow made a difference? >> oh, yes. yeah, i think -- yes.
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numbers do matter, although to some degree the news media keeps -- mentioning the woman on the airplane which is me and my story without names. it seems to resonate with some of the media people. so yes, i wish she had come forward at the time. >> jessica leeds, appreciate you taking the time. thank you. >> thank you and please take care. >> a lot more ahead including who has the edge going to the first round of the democratic primary debate that is one night away. more on that ahead.
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20 candidates will face-off in miami looking ahead for us tonight is jen, the former communications director for president obama and joe lockhart, the former press secretary for president clinton and cnn political commentators. debates are tough enough in general when there are nine other candidates on the stage, that's a really difficult thing for candidates to navigate because they don't get much time that can often because of debate rules just end up kind of ping-ponging between one or two or three candidates. >> that's exactly right. i mean, they have 60 seconds to give their answers and 30 seconds to respond. that's a very small amount of time. each candidate might have a couple of minutes over the course of two hours. so, you know, they will have different strategies depending where they are in the lineup right now or where they are in the polls but for most of them, it's not about having a viral moment, that's actually really hard to do and it rarely is from a prepared line or prepared attack. it's usually from being strong on your feet or really being
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firm and consistent about what impression you want to leave with voters. so is it about immigration? is it about abortion rights? is it about income inequality? they have to be disciplined, i think many of them will be and really think about what they want to get out of the debate. they have little time have to make their impression. >> joe, for vice president biden, how big of a test do you think this will be given the fact he's largely avoided sitdown interviews and he's given some long speeches but again, this is a much different situation. >> >> i think he's advantaged by what jen was talking about. this is cable tv interview where you have a minute, minute and a half and work your way in rather than a formal debate that you will see in the general election. i think he will focus on trump as i think a lot of candidates will be. he has to pick out a couple of issues he wants to hone in on
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but i think the format, the amount of people allows him to stand out just because people know who he is. >> jen, do you think other candidates, how will they deal with biden? do you expect them to kind of, you know, play nice, ignore him or go after him? >> i think they will each have a different approach. so if you're bernie sanders, you're thrilled you're not on the same night as elizabeth warren because she has been positioning herself as the progressive alternative to biden. so he has to figure out how to position himself effectively that way. now he doesn't want to appear nasty but he also wants to appear strong so he has to find a way to balance that. if you're some of the other candidates on the stage, you know, like a beto o'rourke or amy klobuchar, you want to make a move into the top tier. how do you do that? you leave an impression on an issue and have a good moment with another candidate. people love the commitment to work together and if you're some candidates like kirsten gillibrand, you want to survive
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and support to make in september. so i think they will have different approaches. most of them i don't expect will be nasty off the bat especially since it's the first debate. i expect most will be pretty congenial with each other but will look for contrast, especially bernie and biden. >> joe, you talked about biden focussing on trump. i can't imagine they will all focus on trump because that basically would be a greek core chorus of democrats going after trump and none of them if that's happens, they won't have stated their actual and against. positions or what they're for. opposed to what they're against. >> i do think trump is the baseline and draw their own contrast amongst themselves. some of them will be subtle references to both bernie's age and joe biden's age. some of them will be talking
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about the difference between new ideas and old ideas. but i never thought i would disagree with jen but the one thing i do disagree with is that most of the great moments in these debates were practiced before the debates. the where is the beef line that ronald reagan, i won't let your -- my youthful inexperience of my opponent, all of those. they are all practicing one liners, the question of executing though is really getting it at the right time with the right emphasis behind it. they have all got them. we have to wait and see which works. >> that's totally fair. >> there is nothing worse than when they practiced a one-liner and it doesn't work and falls flat. we have to leave it there. thanks very much. >> thank you. the emotional testimony of 9/11 first responders and john stewart may have gotten some results. next, and also the lobbying of first responders from 9/11 for
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9/11 first responders were confident a bill to compensate will pass houses by august. you remember john stewart and others gave an emotional
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testimony before congress two weeks ago and senator mcconnell said he supported funding and didn't understand why stewart was all bent out of shape. the first responders today said mcconnell sat with them for longer than he had during meetings in previous years, still, they know the fight is not over. >> we're satisfied. are we happy? no. we're -- [crying] >> if he strays from his commitment, then we'll go back into attack mode but for now, we're going to put down our swords and pick up our rakes and form and be with our friends who are sick and dying. >> let's talk about that meeting with two 9/11 first responders there. brendon fitzpatrick, retired lieutenant and michael o'connell, both also work for the feel good foundation that helps injured emergency personnel.
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michael, this meeting with majority leader mcconnell, i'm wondering your impression of how it went. did he promise you that this funding would get passed? >> well, for the most part, we were very pleased with how the meeting went. we walked out of there pleased that he actually gave us a timeline. he sensed there was urgency behind it and listened to our voices and really showed that he showed compassion and actually gave us a timeline of august. so there was no promises meant on the actual length of how long he would extent so i can't say that but my team walked out of there pleased with how the meeting went. >> brenden, do you take mcconnell on his ward it will be done by august? >> yes, absolutely.
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we all shook his hand at the end of the meeting before he left the meeting we went over everything again just to be sure and he agreed to everything that mike just said. he's taken the house bill and he's going to bring it through the senate. >> and michael, i know that you-all presented mcconnell with the badge of your friend the detective lu alvarez. i know he's obviously, you know, in very bad shape. he testified on the hill before. explain the idea behind presenting mcconnell with the badge because giving an officer getting a badge, that's a big thing. >> it is. it's part of your life. it's part of your career. it's something that signifies what you've done and, you know, it goes to show you the resilience and the passion that somebody like lou alvarez has. this came from him. it was his idea while he is
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basically on his death bed that in his last few days of his life what he wants to do is keep, he wants to keep fighting and keep serving the public. so he extended that offer, that we would bring the shield of his down to washington with us and present it to senate majority leader mcconnell and tell him this is from lou alvarez. it is the shield that he wore his entire career and wants you to have it as a momentum of knowing he needs you to pass this bill. there is a lot of people very much in the same circumstance he is and this means a lot to everybody and lou is in -- lou is going to be in a spot where we're not going to have him much longer and we'll miss him dearly and we got to speak to him after the meeting and just basically get to tell him how much we loved him and love him and that
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he means the world to us and his fight and his momentum through that shield is going to pay big dividends for a lot of people. >> i do not understand how this is something that you-all have to essentially repeatedly go down to congress for to get done. i mean, when i heard earlier today, you know, over the course of a long time, there is hundreds and hundreds of meetings you've had hundreds of 9/11 first responders, you know, personally walking the halls of congress. as somebody who is a lifelong new yorker, it doesn't make any sense to me that this is an issue that it just shouldn't be an issue. i mean, it should be done. >> yeah and that came up actually during our meeting. it's mind boggling to think that we have to fight. here we are 18 years later and we put a little bit of real life scenario into the meeting.
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i personally told him we're not lobbyist. we're firemen. we're police officers. we're construction workers. we're correction officers, and this isn't our job to come down here and fight. you know, we did our job. on 9/11, in one of the darkest days of this country, we went down there and we fought like so many did to build this country back up. it's just sad to say that although we did have a nice meeting and seems like we came out happy in the grand scheme of things, what are you happy about? at the end of the day, people are dying and what are we doing? giving more that they don't have to worry about, finding it to be financially taken care of but can't put a price tag on human life. >> we can't keep coming down here every five years and with hat and hand saying we need more of this and more of that. there are people sick and people are dying and senator mcconnell understood that. he said today that he understands the urgency of this. so we hope that gets through and
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government prosecutors tonight have unveiled new evidence against duncan hunter. the latest allegations says that he used campaign funds to pay for extramarital affairs. he's been charged with wire fraud, falsifying records, and campaign finance violations. the congressman has denied any wrongdoing. and his wife, who's also facing charges, is cooperating with federal prosecutors. and chris joins us now. despite all this, he showed up at a white house medal of honor ceremony which is interesting. >> that's his right, right? we all have that right of due process in this country. but he's going with what we have learned recently works in politics, haven't we? deny, deny, fight, fight, attack
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your accusers, say it's fake, it's rigged. we've seen it work at a pretty high level. why not try it? >> yeah, it seems like everything is looked through the lens of politics and people just decide, you know, to kind of go along with whatever their side is saying. it's unfortunate. what are you working on tonight? >> i am going to take a look at what's going to happen tomorrow night with the debates. we have a couple of surrogates for some of the big shots, to do a plus/minus on who's better. i have harry enten who we're calling the wizard of odds. o-d-d-s, not o-z. we're going to take you through it that way tonight. >> the wizard of odds. there it is. chris, thanks. >> come on. >> i'll see you a couple of minutes from now. i like it. it's good. coming up next, christine
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answer a simple question from jake tapper. >> you don't think it's a threat? >> i think we're making great progress reducing carbon emissions. america has the cleanest air and water in the world -- >> that's not true. we don't. you get back to me with some statistics. >> we're making progress on reducing carbon admissions, we're doing it through technology, natural gas, through continuing to support as our administration -- >> you rolled back all these -- >> turned back to nuclear energy, clean energy. the answer is not to raise the utility rates of millions of utility rate payers across the country. >> you heard the vice president claiming the u.s. has the cleanest air and water in the world. it ranks first in drinking water, but tenth in air quality. earlier i spoke to christine todd whitman.
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former republican governor of new jersey. you've said before that this administration is actually making it difficult for scientists, is hamstringing government scientists. >> it's not allowing them to even go to conferences where this might be discussed, climate change might be discussed. and that's all across, not just at the epa. >> they can't go to conferences where climate change is being discussed. >> they can't talk about climate change at all. >> that phrase is not something they use. >> secretary of state pompeo went up to the arctic councils meeting. they've said this is a climate change in and of itself is a national security issue, and he won't let them put climate change in the final document. it's happening, it's real. you can't keep -- you can pretend and act like an ostrich but there's an ostrich that's still a wonderful target sitting up there. >> vice president pence kept saying we're going to follow the science on this. >> the science is decided.
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you can always find -- science isn't absolute. but it's so overwhelming now the science that this is happening. >> i've heard you say in the past that the trump administration is just kind of blanket rolling back regulations without even kind of looking at why is this regulation in place, is it still something that is important? >> anything that had anything to do with president obama, gone. good, bad, or indifferent. every administration comes in and tries to put their own stamp on everything. but without looking at this, it's good to review regulations. you should do it from time to time because science evolves, we find new technologies, we can do things in a different way, or we may find this issue has already been dealt with. >> it's interesting that they're framing it as many people increasingly have done as a liberal or conservative argument. when you look at the history of environmentalism in this country, teddy roosevelt --
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he's responsibility for many of the national parks. >> abraham lincoln set the first national land aside. and nixon signed the clean air act and established the epa. it was ronald reagan that put the national security council as a regular item. not that he believed that necessarily humans were causing it, quote, unquote, but that he knew this was an issue that was coming and needed to be looked at. >> so will anything change in terms of -- it's not like they're going to have a change of heart all of a sudden on this. >> they're not, but we have a chance to. 2020 is coming. this is going to be the first time in my memory, and maybe you've gone through the history better than i, but where an environmental issue is going to be on the national agenda, is going to be part of the conversation. and i think this election is a pivotal election. it's going to be about who are we as americans, what's right, what can we accept in our way of governance and one of these issues is going to be what are
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we going to accept on climate, on environment overall. it's making us less healthy. it's threatening our health. >> governor, appreciate it. >> my pleasure. governor christine todd whitman. i want to hand it over to chris. >> thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." 2020 democrats are on the cusp of their first major test and there's one candidate who does has a big advantage, we're going to take it all on in our "primetime" primary tonight. this is one night that could change the race. let's bring back our wizard of odds, o-d-d-s, not o-z. the breakdown of who's best positioned to surge. and this is the reality of the border. not politics, not right, not left, it is right and wrong. and even death.