doing well and feeling strong. can't wait to meet he will la strong. concongrats to jenn and jeff and their family. thanks for watching i'm wolf blitz ner the situation room. erin burnt outfront starts right now. outfront next a defining moment for democrats. the 2020 candidates gearing up for the first debate. all eyes tonight on elizabeth warren. plus president trump blaming democrats for the father and daughter who drowned at the border. tonight a top republican senator who got emotional about the photo today outfront what's his solution in and president trump unleashing harchd afternoon ached ono attack on the fed chairman. why is he taking down his own people? let's go outfront. and good evening i'm erin burnett. all eyes on senator elizabeth warren. the surging candidate standing center stage on the first debate of 2020. warren taking the spotlight today visiting a detention center in florida after this

horrible picture captured the nation, a father and his 23-month-old daughter drowning in the rio grand after trying to across cross in the united states illegally warren was unable to get inside the facility but she told reporter what is she saw from the outside. >> these were children who were being marched like little soldiers like little prisoners from one place to fore. this is not what we should doing. as a country. >> and warren led others followed senator klobuchar visited the facility in everyone a. tomorrow beto o'rourke visits and bernie sandra processing kristin gillibrand. all visiting there. of course warren was there first driving the immigration conversation among democrats, an issue that matters at tonight's crucial democratic debate. one person not on stage is the ultimate rival of every person there. president trump talking about the debate for days live tweet

going all kinds of things. but tonight playing it cool. >> everyone said i'll be tweeting. i'll actually be on a plane. and it just seems very boring but i'm going to watch it because i have to. that's part of my life. >> jeff zeleny is outfront live in miami at the site of the debate. jeff, i don't know if you can hear me. you're getting counted in. but you are getting details about how some of the candidates are preparing for this debate about to start. >> erin, we are, good evening. therein and there is no question at all one thing is clear. time is a precious resource for all of these candidates. they're only expecting about i would say about, you know, five or six moments of 60 seconds each. that's thement a of time they'll have to make their case, introduce themselves. i'm told by talking to a variety of campaign advisers they are not going to take time by and large going after others or even talking about president trump. they're going to try and a introduce themselves and bry try

and sell their plans. elizabeth warren as you know has so many plans and idea ideas. i'm told by advisers she is trying to boil they will down and pair them down to say the ones she wants to promote. but she also erin will be defending her plans. look font for several rivals to potentially say, look, how realistic really is all of this? that's one thing we have our eye directly on the people around senator warren. beto o'rourke kwor cory booker on the other side. amy klobuchar. she of course says she is a progressen progressive she gets things done. there is a sense here erin it's likely to be a civil affair. do not look for acrimony or talking about president trump either. but tonight senator warren has to show she is driving around at least one of the debate. erin one more thing, seems early debates but you'll remember back in the 2008 campaign by this point the first debate was already in the books three months earlier. and the person who did the worst at the debate or one of the

worst his name barack obama we ewent on to win. the first debates erin aren't always determinative. >> i think i guess we think this is starting early but this is important. joan walsh, karen done one of the experienced debate precip specialists prpg hillary clinton for debates and president obama for debates as well. hopeful he learned from thefers time out. mark preston senior political analyst. mark starting with you. warren set the tone. she is the leader, center, spotlight. this is how it is i own it. >> okay. >> but who has the most to gain and lose tonight. >>en on the debate stage, anyone warren has the most to lose because she is considered the front runner. >> she has to look that way. >> she has to look that way and can't make a stumble. i would say the bottom third looking at the likes of tim ryan and tulsi gabbard and folks at the 1% on the stage tonight unless they have a moment that can go virile in the next couple

days thises a tough night for them. >> right, because obviously joan it's make or break for some people. lesser known candidates you get to the next round this could be single elimination. it's money, polls all of these things. >> it's donors, exactly. i think it's a tough place for these other people to be in because yes you want the viral moment process. but the electorate right now, the democratic electorate don't want a nasty race, people tearing each other done. the idea you go after elizabeth warren because she is a front runner it's tough to do. we'll see if anybody does it. and what you do other than that to distinguish yourself we're going to see. >> karen what do you tell them to do in because to get a viral moment it's hard to have that be alone? it comes from playing off of against someone there is a villain hero sort of angle. how do you get a moment without being civil. >> in my view view debates are a series of moments. if you don't have a moment you might as well have not been

there. i would not advocate the play it safe course for the candidates and particularly the candidates who want to make sure know this that they exist and in the debate. i think those people need to neighboring a moment to introduce themselves say why they're running but engage either with the moderator or one of the other people on the stage. >> we're talking five or six minutes for the whole thing. >> right. >> this is a two-hour debate. >> if evenly distributed which of course it won't be only in the sense of everyone if you are going after warren she gets a chance to respond. the time is used by front runners right, joan. >> and she should try to grab the time. she fo is sprousing herself even though she has risen and we're talking about her now she is not that well-known. this is a moment for her to break out again and validate her status as a real chief rival to joe biden. >> she is the luckiest person on earth right now at this moment. >> because she is the only front runner on the stage. tomorrow night you have the

rest. >> she got a great night. >> interesting you think that's the advantage. >> yes. >> to be the sole star. >> i also think -- unk we're likely to see fireworks than tonight on the stage. i don't think elizabeth warren is coming under heavy attack but the viral moment however it comes about doesn't have to be negative but has to happen for some of these folks tonight. for someone like elizabeth warren she can be okay if this is a bland night as we were saying she talked about her policy proposals people are knowing her and she is known as somebody of substance. that's something candidates have to get through that they're substance. >> how much does it help if there is a polk honest tweet. >> i hope the media ignores we have decisions to make about how much attention to pay to this him. >> he obviously karen had said, okay i might be tweeting which i loves to say he is going to do but today totally different

thing. let me play it again. >> everyone said i'll be tweeting. i'll actually be on a plane. and it just seems very boring but i'm going to watch it because i have to. that's part of my life. >> not for nothing ifpy may say i've been on an airplane before he you doesn't have to watch it there is let eye of other things to watch it's not his job to have to watch it. that's what's wrong with the president and how he governs. he governs strictly by pure politics. >> i hope we see ten people on the stage who hope the president tweets at them. because there could be no greater present the president could give one of the ten tonight. >> i would imagine to the democratic base. they want to be the one singled out by him for his ridicule or ire or whatever it maybe. >> everyone one of the people wants to prove they're the one to go toe to toe with trump in the general election. if trump takes you on after you debated nine other democrats then that is a great sign for you. >> so you know to the point that jeff was making, saying barack obama first time out didn't do very well. >> right.

>> people like what who is this guy? whatever? obviously ends up winning the whole thing. is it possible that we see something like that? somebody hovering around 1% that could really transform themselves. >> here is somebody. it will be interesting to see what jay inslee does. i say that because we call him the one topic candidate with all he talks about climate change says it's all about climate change. i interviewed him for the radio show last woke he is very liberal and substantive on liberal issues i don't think he does a good enough job talking about that to the liberal base. so could someone like him rise up potentially? sure. it won't happen after this debate. but you could see people start to emerge and gain traction. >> what about cory booker? a lot of people know him and knew him coming into this he has not a surge. >> he has not he is spending a lot of money in iowa and early states. he needs a night, needs to ee merng abthe top tier candidate. right now, you've got elizabeth warren and a bunch of people around 5% or lower in the polls.

he needs to rise and distinguish himself somebody's on warren's level. >> what do you do say to someone like cory booker known for ee rue edition and long sentences. >> i believe anybody can learn though give a one minute answer. for cory booker and beto o'rourke people are watching a debate. they want to see debates appear. >> they want they don't want to sooz a month log. >> any don't want kumbaya. they want to see people get into it and differences on the issues. what does best beto o'rourke and cory booker do? and does elizabeth warren attack joe biden? that's telling. >> and of course the bfl so little time. >> so little time. you have to have a moment. you can't trip up. if somebody is vanilla and they wash away, through tonight's debate they have another chance

but not much more of a chance. you have to use this as -- dsh think about the tonight as a spring board into the -- into the fall. that's what this is. >> well because donors are watching too. >> when we go back to 2007 we thought there were a lot of people then but 8, maybe 10 this is so many more people you can't afford to be barack obama. >> you don't get another chance. >> right. >> all of you staying with me. next new details about how the front runner joe biden is preparing. biden insider campaigner is next. a top republican choking up after seeing this image. >> i don't want to see another picture like that on the u.s. border. >> senator ron johnson you saw there the chairman of the homeland security republican is my guest. and congresswoman alexandria oxio cortes says bob mueller's testimony is going to move others to support impeachment proceedings. is she right? great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein

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tonight hunker down, the democratic front runner is in delaware as ten rivals take the stage. biden's turn tomorrow. we have new details coming into cnn. bid has been doing mock debates. alertette siems says one person helping out is who played sarah palin whens biden prepared for debates against her. he watched some of the debates

against bernie sanders. outfront now an endorser of biden. how closely is biden watching the debate tonight. >> first of all erin thank you for having me again. we're really excited about tomorrow night's debate. and he is taking it very seriously. you know, that's one thing is when you think about it this debate is different nan the debates he he's had no the past. it's not a one-on-one. it's not exact versus republican. he is taking it very seriously. but he is ready. >> so one area skt, as we are all aware, that he may face some real questions about is about the '94 crime bill which i proudly championed. here is some of what he said. >> the truth is every major crime bill since 1976 that's come out of this congress, every minor criminal bill has had the name of exactic senator from the state of delaware joe biden and

i'd say lock the sobs up in up. >> the president's plan doesn't include enough judges with to sentence them not must have prosecute prosecutors and not enough prison cells to put them away a long time. >> congresswoman, he's got to be ready for that. could comments like that come back to hurt him? does he have a apply ready? >> well, i think anybody who has had an over 40-year career in elected office will have to have pennsylvania record of things that they have accomplished and things that they would potentially do differently. but i think it's important first to recognize the context of the times. there were a lot of individuals that supported that bill, including bernie sanders. including the majority of the members of the congressional black caucus because people haerpd from constituents. there were good things like the violence against women ac and the ban on assault weapons.

but look at where a person has come. we have a friend in delaware named sarah mcwried and has a saying that when you show growth i'll show grace. he has shown tremendous growth. been able to accomplish things that have taken our country forward. and i think, you know, he will be able to address those issues in addition to talking about his vision for the future. >> it sounds like from what us saying he is prepared to talk about the positives and good things and the stand by it if i hear what you say i hear echos what he may say which is obviously more put together and a bit different than he has been thus far on the issue. to your point, though, congresswoman he mab studying his own record. 50 years. >> right. >> he has a lot of things. is he ready to be confronted with every mistake, every inconsistenty, every flip flop you can say 50 years record you have to study your own record. of course he does. mo remembers everything they do in 50 years is he ready for it.

>> i guess the question i would have is you know, for us as the voters and for the media and others, how are we going to judge in candidate? i mean, you know, he has already acknowledged things that he would do different. and i think that shows a difference in the president that we currently have in the white house. you know, he is the kind of person, joe biden, that i know that will talk and listen and then make changes and decisions. and i think that's something that we don't have right now. and i've known him for 35 years. i know his heart. i know his works. people have seen the record of accomplishments. and i think what is so special about this moment is that he really felt compelled to step forward and put his name forward as a candidate. and all he is asking the american people is to, number one. >> okay. >> let him be outfront and share what the vision is and number

two take take their chance to vote for this man. >> i appreciate your time of course he is welcome outfront any time as well. >> thank you very much i couldn't resist still we mo mark preston and karen still with me. karen, she obviously is making it clear they have spent a lot of time thinking about the crime bill and the responses he has there. but you say he has the most to lose and gain. >> yeah, i think clearly he has the most to gain and lose. if he does well tomorrow night there is a lot of donors who breathe a sigh of relief and think we got it this is it. he is looking for a chance to go after the president not interact with people around him. he has a the most to loses if it's a bad night it's anybody's game as among the mid-to top tier candidates. i think tomorrow's debate will make tonight's debate relevant if biden has a good night and biden and warren are the people to watch. >> that's interesting. the layout matters. >> yeah. >> joan, what do you think about that, that he has the most to

gain? i think what karen acknowledges here is there are a lot of people looking at biden and saying, okay, his poll up numbers haven't -- elizabeth warren surging where is joe biden. >> he is an unusual front runner because he does have something to prove. a lot of times we say -- we said it in the earlier segment -- the front runner can afford to play it safe to some degree. they don't want to lose. they want to main the stature. he is somebody who has to prove anyway deserves to be the front runner with everything that's been coming out about his record. you know, you asked about flip-flops. you can completely depict a flip flop as an evolution as an adjusting to the times. he goes back and forth between saying he's changed and wanting to say he hasn't changed. >> and defending. >> and defending. he has not chosen a lane on the crime bill. that "new york times" story today was rather devastating when you hear him saying sobs and thugs. remember the hillary clinton won one of the reasons she is not president was the single use of

the term superpredator. you know, there are a lot of people who are wanting him to say something more conciliatory about his role. >> and last night -- and last -- age will be center stage you got joe biden and bernie sanders and pete buttigieg next to bidden. the guy who is double the age and you're younger than joe biden. but figuratively it's important. donors are watching, voters are watching. it's put out on the table. he said it's fair. and people have been going after him for it like this. >> it turns out people of all generations are ready to see a new generation rise in american leadership. >> it's time for a new american generation of dreamers. >> i'm going to to be offering a different vision for the future of this country, one that is set in the future about what we can become as a country and not stuck in the past.

>> okay. that's all pointing at sanders and biden, you know, but it is -- they're all going there. >> they are going there. let's go back to something karen sid that elizabeth warpen that is the perfect stamg they doesn't str to deal westernny sanders on joe biden if sme chooses to engage with a joe biden by invoking his name that's hero choice. tomorrow it's interesting to see with joe biden because biden could have a great night if he doesn't get attacked because where he can slip up if he gets angry and frustrated and then he goes on the attack. the thing that joe biden has going for him though is that he has done the debates. he has done a lot of them. >> he has been there. >>' has been there if anybody goes after joe biden to what karen said too is that the establishment is not very happy when democrats are going after each other and joan said that as well. you go back to kirstin gillibrand before you send mo he a text or tell me i'm wrong i'm telling you what happened kirstin gillibrand came under criticism for attacking bill clinton and saying that he

should stepped down during the among qua lewinsky and i she tonga hilgd's seat and criticize the for efforts to get al franken in the out of office a lot of people have upset about into not moved. >> if you see that in. >> she needs a big night. she needs to break out. >> all right thank you all. and next, the heart wrenching photo sparking new calls to deal with the immigration crisis. and tonight we have the story behind this horrible end. plus president trump reacting to bob mueller agreeing to testify before congress. >> the mueller thing never stops. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. there was no nothing. bass pro s for under $10 each. and this stars and stripes tailgate toss game for under $30. now with free 2 day shipping. why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're

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ton, president trump blaming democrats for the drowning deaths of a migrant father and his nearly 2-year-old taurt in the rio grand. the two shown in this horrible picture taken monday. todd letter's arms still around her father's neck. when asked how the photograph made him feel here was president trump's response. >> i hate it. and i know it could stop immediately if the democrats change the law.

they have to change the laws. and then that father who probably was this wonderful guy with his daughter things like that wouldn't happen. >> ed lavandera has the story behind the photograph. >> the tiny arm of 23-month-old still clings to her father afc or alberto martinez ass pair float lifeless on the shore of rio grand, the long and desperate journey cut short at america's edge. the child's mother witness to do from the mexican side of the river. she told a reporter they initially made it across the river. he sat the child on the opposite shore and began swimming for the wife but the tauld letter jumped in after him. he clung to her as they were swept away in a current. eventually drowning together in his t-shirt back in the home they of el salvador her

grandmother weeps foreher family. >> they lived in the same house. they wanted to have their own house. and that was what motivated them. >> the family of three spent some two months in mexico, eventually joining thousands of other mierpgts crowding near the u.s. border. they were waiting to ask for asylum from american officials but on sunday they risked lives for a faster way into the country. the push of poverty and the pull of promise have led millions to take such chances. customs and border protection often release footage of migrants and young children making the dangerous river crossing into the united states. according to u.s. border patrol 283 migrants died on the southwest border with mexico last year. 283 dead. it's a number some may easily forget until an image like this reveals what a humanitarian crisis on the border really looks like.

>> and erin, this isn't an uncommon occurrence. critics of the trump administration who say this this policy of the trump administration forcing migrants seeking asylum to wait in mexico and essentially waiting their turn as they limit the number of people who can come through the legal ports of entry these critics have been saying for months this is forcing people out into more remote areas to make more dangerous treacherous situations and we have seen that play out in a deadly way. >> ed, thank you very much. and look the photograph of that father and his daughter has heightened emotion for anyone who saw it including the republican chairman of the homeland security committee who became emotional talking about their deaths. >> oscar alberto martinez ramirez and his 23-month-old daughter valerieia, i realize tragedies occur all over this

country, all over the world. i don't want to see another picture like that on the u.s. border. >> and outfront now, chairman ron johnson, the republican chairman of the homeland security committee. chairman, i appreciate your time. you know, and your raw emotion we saw today. what went through your mind when you first saw that picture? >> hello, erin. what was going through my mind -- i've got two daughters. i have four grand kids all under four years old. i think that's what goes through every american's mind. and republicans hate it. democrats hate it. the men and women of dhs dealing with this crisis hate it. the president hates it. and i'm hoping from this tragedy -- i hope it will cattlize -- be a catalyst for action so we can fix or horribly broken immigration system. i'm not here to assess blame i'm here to try and solve the problem. i don't think there's been a

committee in congress devoting more time and effort to understanding the complexity of what's happening at our border in central america. so -- and we have to work together in a non-partisan way and start addressing the many pr, continue improvement start fixing it. >> well, look, i have to say, that tutd is one everyone should applaud this pointing the finger, democrats, republicans at the least it's counterproductive. at the most i think offensive to americans. but i want to understand senator what your- -- you know your bill would do. oscar mother was oscar is the father in the picture. his mother said that her son's goal, his wife, their daughter was to get to dallas. they wanted to go to dallas, texas, to work and have a better financial situation. we understand that such claims to come to the united states for economic betterment are pretty much rejected when it comes to asylum. which is the way they were coming in. so would you change that? or even under the bill you're talking about would the

situation still have happened? >> well, first of all, i'm not talking about any bill right now. we're still laying out the reality of the rm. the fact of the matter is that's not a valid asylum climb. as sympathetic as it is people wanting to come to this country for the economic promise i understand that but it has to be a legal process. if you are concerned about people being exploited -- that was the subject of our hearing was the human trafficking and the exploitation of these migrants, by the evil human traffickers, if you are concerned about that kind of exploitation you ought to be concerned about people coming into this country illegally, exploited by unscrupulous employers. we had a group arrested in wisconsin that was -- they were trafficking legal immigrants taking away passports, threatening them. we have turned to an illegal. allow people to climb sigh limb status or freejee status in in re countries they don't have to take the journey. remote finish with this we have to understand that our broken

immigration system is sustaining this wicked business model of human smuggling and human trafficking that's what we need to address. >> look, i hear you but i'm just trying to understand. i mean in the horrible situation that this picture brought to light, right, a young family they're not going to make the asylum bar, right? but they feel so desperate that this was worth a shot. it doesn't sound like that would change. >> well, again, this year alone in just eight months this fiscal year 411,000 unaccompanied children by people come in illegally has a family unit has been apprehended. 411,000. the pace is quickening. if may's pace continues in the next four months another 400,000 will enter. 93% are entering between the ports of entry because that is the easiest path in. so i understand in story and these people got impatient. and it ended in tragedy. but 93% of people aren't

necessarily waiting. they just realize if they come in illegally they get a free pass in border patrol is a mere speed bump into the longtime residency. that's a huge incentive for more people to come and more tragedies will occur. >> so what -- what are you going to do? i mean the asylum system and some people are showing up you got to wait 14 months not enough people to stay some sleeping on the street process. one can understand how they might feel zprags. people who want to not even try to come in through the asylum system, there aren't enough judges, not enough beds. what specifically is going to be done to change this? >> so there are many things we can do. again allow people to claim asylum and refugee status in in re home country so they don't have to take the dangerous journey. that's part of many's bills from my standpoint i've introduce add guest worker visa program gornd by the states. president president jared kushner is working on a revision of our visa system. we need more legal immigrants. legal immigrants. we don't have enough workers in the country to grow our economy

the way we need to but it has to be a legal system. what i'm going to be doing is holding meeting was the democrat colleagues hopefully get initiate operations safe run. the goal of that is to rapidly and more accurately determine those people who don't have a valid asylum claim and safely return them to the home country as deterrent so that more people don't take the dangerous journey. i think that's compassion it. >> i understand yorp point about claiming it in the home country. but that's easier to enforce shall we say right when your home is country is cross an ocean. but when the it has a land path to the united states and you're worried about being killed on murdered in your home country which you may be in syria but it's just a hell of a lot harder to get here. but in guatemala you're going to come high pressure how would provide them this in the home country stop them from coming. >> if they have a credible fear and really are persecuted and qualify for asylum they'll be granted asylum. >> but the ample wait times are six months to a year you expect them to wait there that long.

>> >> you know, erin there was a poll taken in guatemala that a third of guatemalaens intended to migrant to the united states. we couldn't some simulate 6 million and guatemala doesn't want to lose the population. we do bear responsibility. it's our insatiable demands for drugs, given rise to the drug cartels destroyed the public institutions but we have to crush the drug cartels to provide development dollars to create opportunity in the central american american countries as well pl this is an incredibly deflection. problem knows longtime solutions. the short-term goal ugt ought to be to reduce the flow make shurp that human trachlk traffickers realize wraer not allowing them to exploit the law as exploit the migrants. fwoef stop -- reduce this flow because we can't accept all of them and people are going to take the risks and see more tragedies like we saw in that photo. >> all right. kmarm johnson, i appreciate your time thank you very much for the conversation. >> have a good night. >> and next president trump slamming his own federal reserve chairman. again and again and again.

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mueller's decision to testify to two house committees next month. >> the mueller thing never stops. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. there was no nothing. how many times do we have to hear it? it never ends. it just keeps going on and on. i've been going through this for two years, two and a half years. >> but some democrats say mueller's testimony could be the thing that increasing calls for impeachment. outfront now democratic congressman danny heck sitting on the house intel committee, one of the committees questioning mueller. congressman heck i appreciate your time as always. lindsey graham is telling cnn that the mueller hearings could blow up in democrat faces. ultimately it's not going to change anybody's mind. what do you say to senator graham. >> i say it's an audacious assertion to make three weeks ahead of the hearing before he heard a single word that mueller gives in testimony. we have to wait and see what he says before we reach hard and fast conclusions. >> i want to play what

congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez said. she is also not waiting until that time. here is what she said to manu raju. >> the pressure to impeach grows every single day. and i think that having testimony -- public pem testimony from robert mueller will add credence to the case. and i think is only adds to the pressure once his statements are made public. >> do you agree? do you think that mueller's appearance will increase call for impeachment? >> i think it certainly holds the potential to do that. i mean, as i've said to you before, erin, the mueller report even unredacted is like having the sheet music to a song, never actually having heard it sung. and when director mueller comes forward and gives testimony we will be hearing the song the first time. again depending what it is he says and how he answers the question there is no question that it has the potential to increase the demand or change minds por put people over the

edge to call for impeachment or impeachment inquiry which seems to be the more popular proposalty current time. >> so you know, to this point i'm curious. he has said it's a 448 page report. he has been clear when he gave the press conference which he said verbally the very words in the report it did feel different to people. so perhaps you're going further than that process. but i understand that point. but he did say trektly the report is -- directly the report is my testimony. i would not provide information beyond that which is railroad public in any appearance before congress. so when you say it's a song we haven't heard, maybe it's a song people chose not to read. but do you really think we get anything new? >> well, again, it remains to be seen. look, director mueller said he wouldn't appear before congress now he is going to. he said he want do anything but read from the report. we'll see if that's the case. as you indicatesed, i think there is power in him actually

saying the words out loud. a human voice not just words, ink on a piece of paper. remember the intelligence committee will have the opportunity to meet with some of the high ranking deputies to actually ask questions about the counterintelligence part of this, the volume one portion of the mueller report. so i think that there is a distinct possibility that something will come of this that matters. but, again westbound we won't know until july 17 zbloogt how much time are you spending working on the questions? are you doing questioning yourselves, bringing nonexpert plrt or have you decided >> i heard the chairman say on television last night the members have opportunity to ask questions. i don't know that's completely finalized. i know how i'm going to prepare. i thoroughly red the report and especially volume one because it deals with the counterintelligence matters which members of the intel committee are interested in. i i annotated i'm going back and prioritize the things i want. but if you ask me next for

example congressman heck what are those things i would say i would be asking him is it true he didn't investigator research whatsoever any potential financial conflicts of interest that the president may have had that would help explain the insplikable coziness with the russians? i would ask him from his standpoint are there continuing gaps in our national security system that make us vulnerable to this continuing interference pr from russia if? and if he thinks they are what are they what should we do about them. >> congressman thanks i appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> next president trump stepping up i can't aing on people i appointed. has the president ever treated his staff this way before. plus jeanne on the piece of technology, ancient, that trump can't stop talking about. >> it's called tivo. eye. >> teef owe. >> i think it's better than television. maria ramirez!

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fed chairman. powell has fought back and said it is our independence from political pressure that makes the fed work. but what do you make of this, the president taking him on like this, i made you? >> the federal reserve chairman is the second or third most powerful person in washington and in the world. it's his appointment you have to stand up for your own appointees. the essence is for most of our early history to the beginning of the 20th century, congress controlled the money supply, right? and private banks did that. what it led to is 100 years of boom and bust. >> hyper inflation. >> it would go way up and have terrible depressions. the congress move during that early part of the 20th century to set up the federal reserve as an independent body. so when a president puts short term press seure on that become your trespassing and territory

you stay out of. i remember with bill clinton so strongly not oval office, clinton like most presidents would get angry and go out and take a shot at them and bob ruben, who had run goldman sachs and the most important economic advisor continually went to him and said don't do that. don't go public. it will only challenge their manhood and raise the interest rates. >> right, they will go against you. they are supposed to go for price, stability and knot ponot politics. this isn't the only time we seen the president do this to his people. >> if i had one doov over, i wod not have appointed jeff sessions. i know more than he does. he's a democrat if you want to know the truth. the fbi director is wrong. >> that's christopher. by the way, all of those are trump's appointees. >> that's not including the former secretary of state he called dumb as a rock.

>> rex tillerson. >> right. it's a long list. i've never seen that. it leaves both the person and the organization uncertain who will be running things six months from now and uncertain with which direction policy will take and as you know better than almost everyone else, that makes a big difference in the international economy. other nations are trying to figure out which way are you going to go because we have such impact in the world. >> we do. we are the most powerful economy in the world. >> yes. >> and that is to protect. >> still. >> still. thank you very much. next, jeanne moos on the president toting technology which is now 20 years old. the best network is even better? best, fastest, best. enough. sprint's doing things differently. they're offering a new 100% total satisfaction guarantee. i mean i think sprint's network and savings are great, but don't just take my word for it. try it out and decide for yourself.

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here is jeanne. >> president trump sounds like a broken record. >> my wife watched. you have to see this. great inventions called tvo. i don't want to be advertising but it's better than television because television, you can play this back. >> twitter played back the president's words. >> called tivo. >> trump marvels at old technology. this would be a good plug for them in 1990. >> tivo lets you create your own tv network to let you watch what you want when you want to. >> trump to tuted tivo. >> television is useless without tivo. >> as far back as 2015. >> we replay it.

we have things like tivo. it's great today. >> 2015 was the same year tivo tweeted tivo cuts ties with donald trump, #dumptrump. a different company owns the brand and told cnn we do not stand by the past remarks. we are not about politics. to be honest, we don't have the remotest idea of exactly which system the president uses to watch tv. does trump have a state of the art super tivo or just regular old direct tv? ask the verge after examining an image of the remote spotted at the white house during a "60 minutes" interview. president trump has a low-tech image with his sharpies, his computer-free desk, his phone technique. >> hello? >> yet, he insists -- >> i know more about technology than anybody. >> nobody knows more about technology than me. >> i'm a professional at technology. >> 1999 technology maybe he'll use it to play this story back.

>> one of the great inventions in history is called tivo. tivo. >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> tivo, tivo. >> new york. [ laughter ] >> it was the last shot that made it. thanks for watching. anderson starts now. good evening. we left you last night with the image of a father and young daughter face down in the water on the u.s. mexico border. tonight, we've just gotten another reminder of the human tragedy taking place there and runs as deep as the rio grand and as wide as the political differences over what to do about it. flows with tears as this new video shows. the bodies of that father oscar martinez and his daughter being put into a hurst in the border city of mexico.