tv Inside Politics CNN June 28, 2019 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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welcome to inside politics. i'm manu raju. john king is off. president trump is in japan preparing for his meeting with the chinese president but causing controversy with a finger wagging exchange with the russian president vladimir putin. in the first democratic presidential debates are done. 20 candidates made their pitch to american voters and senator kamala harris had a break out moment taking on the early front runner, joe biden. now will the former vice president pivot or revisit with biden. biden has a habit to retout the pass while addressing the future. >> is it frustrating for you in
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2019250 be relitting these debates at this point? >> it should be about the future. president obama did a heck of a job. i got mitch mcconnell to raise tax during the obama-biden administration. >> in the date after damage control by the polling front-runner and at the bottom of the hour biden will be back on stage speaking to black activists in chicago. that event already on biden's schedule but the timing is important because it comes after a raw debate confrn taegz with a california senator over race and civil rights. until now biden's stumbles had been self-inflicted. last night harris took the fight to the man at the center of the stage. >> i do not believe you are a racist. and i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground, but i also believe, and it's personal, and i was
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actually -- it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. >> biden says harris is ripping his words from context. the context of the california senator's own personal experience delivered maybe the most dramatic moment of the still young 2020 campaign. >> there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bussed to school every day, and that little girl was me. >> now the question for haste, can she turn that moment into real momentum? the questions for biden even bigger. are the early campaign hiccups just bumps in the road or obstacles the candidate will never be outrun?
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or is his history, his style, his team, trump focus, liabilities his team will face? biden twice last night unintentionally voiced what his rivals now argue openly. the former vice president's time is up. >> i've also argued very strongly that we in fact deal with the notion of denying people access to the ballot box. i agree everyone wants to stay -- anyway, my time is up. >> thank you, mr. president. >> cnn's arawa in chicago where the former vice president will be speaking. what are you hearing the former vice president will do when he speaks to activists in just a matter of minutes? >> reporter: well, manu, i think what joe biden needs to do is particularly quell some of those concerns that emerged from the debates last night. he'll be here speaking to a
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group of black voters and activists. and it all comes as he's really overshadowed by that exchange last night relating to school busing that came from senator kamala harris. and our colleague kate baldwin tried to press biden's campaign manager a short while ago whether he'll address that here in his speech. she simply said to stay tuned but argued school busing is a complicated issue and biden will not be dictated how he talks about issues based on other candidates. earlier today jessie jackson was actually on cnn and he said he does want to hear more of an explanation about joe biden when it comes to those comments he made about state rights, saying the federal government should not have stepped in when it came to school busing. jessie jackson said he wanted to hear more from the vice president about that. within the next hour we're going to be waiting to see if biden is going to further address his rocky debate purchase last night as well as his comments.
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one thing we're learning is that atlanta's mayor is endorsing joe biden. she was one of his special guests last night at the debate. it's unclear when exactly the timing for that endorsement, that rollout was released, whether it was because of that rocky start but certainly a boost they are looking for today after the former vice president's debate purchase last night. >> we'll be watching every word. we'll bring that to you when he does speak. thank you for that. now here in the studio jeff zeleny joins us with new reporting. you were at the bait last night and you flew back just for us. thank you for that. you're learning some new things about what's happening with the biden campaign. >> the big conversation in biden world this morning as he prepares to address that conference as arlette said is reassessing what the political fall out is. i talked to one top advisor who said these words. he knows he has to do better. it sounds like an obvious point,
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but it's a point framing his candidacy. the big question for joe biden going into this is he a placeholder in this democratic race or the true front runner in the race? and he did not answer that to his satisfaction or his advisor's satisfaction last evening. i talked to one other democrat who worked with joe biden for a long time, thinks of him in a very fond view, i guess, a fond way. and he said the performance, was, quote, not great. also went onto say the question is whether it's an off night or he's simply not sharp anymore. so those are the things going around in biden's world among hisviders. but we can also caution i think you cannot measure an entire performance, an entire campaign by one event. aides also tell me he will be surrounded by supporters and people. he will be campaigning more in the month of july. he's been fund-raising and things going up to this point since that period ends really
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next weekend. and they say he needs to be energized by his supporters. what he needs to do is prove he's the front-runner. >> you've written a lot about the record, in fact back in april about his views about busing back in the '70s and how he opposed efforts to mandate busing. this is according to something you obtained. this is what joe biden wrote in 1977. he said my bill strikes at the heart of the injustice of court ordered busing. it prohibits from disrupting the educational system in the name of the constitution, whether there's no evidence the governmental officials intended to discriminate. last night he tried to defend that position. going forward, does he need to completely repudiate it or do you expect him to continue to try to defend that? >> if he's going to defend it, he's going to face a lot of blow back from democrats. so that was a letter he wrote to the late senator from mississippi, one of the segregationists he's been
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talking about this time. and that's what he was talking about last night. but he defended his view by saying states had to right to make this decision. that was the entire point of this because some states did not want to integrate. i am keeping an eye very carefully on what he says in chicago at the bottom of this hour. if he changes or nuances his view on state rights or not, that will setup a sign of what's to come here. if he does not, a lot of black leaders and others will wonder exactly what he's up to here. a states right argument is not what a lot of democratic presidential candidates as you know usually articulate. >> it was a big moment for kamala harris, but she had her own issues as well last night. she's dealing with her own controversies this morning and trying to clarify what she calls a debate stage misunderstanding. harris last night seemingly changed her mind again about medicare for all and whether her version of the plan would kill private health insurance. it's an answer she repedeatedly
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revised. >> let's eliminate all of that, let's move on. i was in the context of saying let's get rid of all the bureaucracy. >> not the insurance companies. >> no, that's not what i meant. i know it was tormented that way. >> who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government run plan? all right. >> cnn's kyung lah joins us from miami. why does kamala harris say she raised her hand to that question? >> reporter: she says she misheard. this is what we're hearing from aides. they've been out there talking to the press. a lot of us have had conversations with the campaign today. she is saying she misheard the question. what the harris camp is saying is that she heard it as would you personally be willing to give up your private insurance in favor of a government run plan not at large, so harris was on morning television this
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morning trying to explain that raising of a hand on the debate stage. take a listen. >> first of all, do you believe private insurance should be elim nated in this country? >> no. >> you don't but you raised your hand. >> but the question was would you give up your private insurance for that option, and i said yes. >> reporter: so here's a little context, though. harris watched the first night of the debate. her campaign said she watched studied for it. this is candidate notorious for her preparation. she looks at everything very, very carefully. this is the exact same question asked on debate night one. when i push back on how is it possible that she misheard the exact same question, the exact same situation that was given to the candidates the night before, the camp is basically saying,
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look, she misheard. we cannot predict every single thing that happens on that stage. she misheard. >> kyung lah, in miami. it is not an issue going away. thank you for that and more on the biden-harris dynamic later in the show, but up next president trump cracks a few jokes with vladimir putin, with the democracy as a punch line. this is rick blomquist. his life is pretty comfortable.
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president trump face-to-face with world leaders at the g-20 summit today in japan including russian president vladimir putin. this was their first sit down meeting since the release of special counsel mueller's report which detailed russia's extensive interference in the 2016 election. so a lot of people at home and abroad were surprised to hear the president make this joke. cnn's kaitlyn collins joins me live from osaka, japan. what's been the reaction so far from these comments by president trump? >> reporter: if you're in the president's inner circle they're not surprised by what the president said because they said repeatedly down-plays the russian interference in the election.
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seeing it as a threat to his presidency and part that followed his presidency for so many words. those are words some of his critics but his biggest allies on capitol hill have wanted to say for so long in front of the cameras toosh foofinally confront vladimir putin over election meddling. but to see the president take that tone there where he was joking, he seemed to be laughing with vladimir putin, wagging his finger at the russian president is certainly not the tone they expected the president to take it in. but of course this is essentially how he views the outcome of the mueller investigation because he saw it in a personal realm what did the mueller report say about him. not exactly the first part of the mueller report where in details that russia interfered in the 2016 election in a systematic and sweeping effort with robert mueller warning that that is the warning that people and americans should take away from that report. so of course as this moves forward and as we've seen the intelligence community warn about other interference in upcoming elections, that is why you can see what the president's
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reaction has been all along as essentially he seems to be making a big joke out of it. >> i see it overshadows the rest of this very important summit including big meetings later today. thank you for that, and here with us to share their reporting julie pace with the associated press, john with politico, and tamara keith with npr. i just want to remind everyone about the president's history with vladimir putin and when he was in helsinki with him, and he said this. >> i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this i don't see any reason why it would be. i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> and then today he jokingly wags his finger. why is the president unable to or unwilling to talk to president putin?
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>> i think there are two things that go on here. i think one is simple stubbornness. the president knows everyone is waiting for him to say the right thing, a lot of people in his own party as well. he just doesn't want to play along and do what's expected of him. but i do think to her point, there is a real frustration with this president there's this shadow over his victory in 2016 you saw and i think we might talk about this president jimmy carter who basically said, hey, the russians got this guy re-elected. but i think it's important we have this conversation to remember this is not just about the president's rhetoric. there's almost certainly going to be a point in the 2020 election where his national security advisers are going to come to him and say some foreign government is trying to meddle in this election and he's given very little sign he's going to take this seriously if he thinks that one power is going to help him. >> they've already warned him
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this is going to happen and continue to happen. last time at helsinki there were some push back at his comments in helsinki. john mccain who was still alive at the time. even linda graham pushed back. do you expect any reaction from republicans on the hill you talked to? >> no, because they're leaving town for the july 4th recess and they left as soon as they can. i think people are stunned in both parties and when you talk to them in private. remember democrats are pushing election security legislation being bottled up in the senate they passed by mitch mcconnell in the senate. we're going to hear so much more about this issue, senate intelligence report on the 2016 election is coming out next month. and the first part is coming out and then of course we have the mueller hearing on july 17th. so this issue is not going away. >> yeah, and in private, too, it doesn't appear he brought this up in a private meeting as well. they talked about other issues, but theresa may, the british
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prime minister did bring it up with vladimir putin today. >> and plenty of leaders have brought it up with vladimir putin, but president trump has been very deferential to putin on a number of occasions, not just helsinki. but other times he has said, well, putin tells me he didn't do it so like we should believe him is essentially what the president has been saying. so the fact he would joke about this now is utterly unsurprising. president trump has moved on, and everyone keeps telling him you should ask about this, and the best way to get president trump not to do something is to tell him to do it. >> cameras caught the president talking with vladimir putin about the news media. >> this is whites alarming.
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there were 58 journalists killed in russia between 1982 and 2019. >> and it's not the same. and for the president to sort of, you know, suggest that it is on his part, i mean there is a first amendment here. this is democracy, this is entirely different. this is the dangerous aspect of this. it's not just his rhetoric. the fact he's never held vladimir putin to account or any evidence, what if the outcome was the other way? joe biden, whoever so that is why people on both sides should be alarmed by this but it almost is quaint now. back to the g-20, two summers ago in germany when president trump sat for the first time with vladimir putin one-on-one, i was there. now this is not surprising at all. the silence as john was saying earlier, that's the surprising part. >> there's big moments coming up. he's expected to meet with president xi jinping to talk
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about the trade war with china right now. and will this overshadow that and what is expected to be a very consequential meeting. >> it will be a consequential meeting and come after a breakfast he's having with the crown prince of saudi arabia. so three leaders of three countries that have severe human rights issues that jail and kill journalists, the president in all of these meetings really abdicates what we have seen as the traditional role of the american president. even when you're talking about trade, even major policy issues the american president is expected to go into those meetings and stand up for democracy and human rights. and trump simply does not have that as part of his play book. >> it has never been. we'll be talking about that in the days ahead. up next, though, just how inspiring was marianne williamson in her debate? well if keith williams has her way, she make make her debut
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today, former u.s. president jimmy carter questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election today. president carter was asked about russian interference while speaking on a panel in virginia. listen. >> there's no doubt that the russians did interfere in elections. and i think the interference although not yet quantified would show trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. he lost the election and he was put in office because of russians interference on his behalf. >> so do you believe president trump is an illegitimate president? >> the things i just said i can't retract. the supreme court today previewing its next term. the court has agreed to review president trump's so-called dreamer protections. the obama era program protects hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who came to the u.s. as children. last night's debate was the
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highest rated democratic match up and one of it last night's stars didn't speak for the first 27 minutes but when marianne williamson finally got her moment people noticed. >> my first call is to the president of new zealand who said her goal is to make it for it's the best place to grow up, and i would tell her girlfriend you are so wrong because the united states of america is going to be the best place for a child to grow up. i'm going to harness love for political purposes and sir, love will win. if you think we're going to beat donald trump by just having all these plans you've got another thing coming. because he didn't win by saying he had a plan but simply saying make america great again. >> as the debate ended it wassest it was williamson who led the search trends. john hickenlooper at number 6
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and kirsten gillibrand at 8. >> no question in all the screaming and shouting and food fight going on, she was standing out because she was talking in a very unique voice in severalererments and she's also not just on the debate stage. i was in iowa a couple of weeks ago and spotted a billboard in the east village and it has that slogan on it. its says turning love into a political force. she's out there campaigning somewhat. look, i think i'm not exactly sure what she's up to. she's probably not likely to win here but her voice has stood out because it's softer and unique. >> certainly unique indeed. before we go to break, you could call it gridlock on capitol hill today with the capitol subway train got stuck between office buildings. senator chris murphy tweeted the alarm and tweeting if you're not
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so call your state senator. ask them to support ab 1505 and ab 1507. more now on the debate night clash between biden and kamala harris. senator harris said biden's civil rights record can't fix his invoking senate segregationists. >> there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her
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public schools and she was bussed to school every day, and that little girl was me. >> it clashed with several questions for the front-runner. does he need to retool how he addresses race and his complicated senate history and more importantly does he want to? when biden goes before black activists in chicago next hour, what do you think he needs to do here? address this head on or sidestep it or try to clean it up in. >> manu, i think he just needs to be forthcoming. a lot of the african-american voters i've talked to particularly in south carolina in the last two weeks have said they kind of trust biden's bona fides on race and they were not necessarily willing to give him a pass but -- >> sorry to interrupt you. we'll get right back to you. bernie sanders is speaking to reporters right now on capitol
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hill. >> people understand we can't be the only major country on earth not guaranteeing health care to all people. people are beginning to address the outrage of massive income and wealth inequality in america. and i'm very happy that the planetary crisis of climate change denied unfortunately tragically by this president is now something everybody knows we have to address and address in a very aggressive way. so i'm feeling quite good about the direction in which the debates and the discourse is going. >> what do you think about the fact senator harris said she misunderstood the question when she raised her hand alongside of you? >> i'll let senator harris speak for herself. all that i know is that the american people know that there is something really absurd that we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people as a right. and we end up spending twice as much per person on health care as the people of any other
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country and we pay by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. the function of health care is not to make insurance companies and drug companies huge profits. it is to take care of the needs, the health care needs of the american people. that's what a medicare for all single payer system would do. >> do you think vice president biden should still be considered the front-runner after last night's debate? >> bernie sanders there speaking to reporters on capitol hill and doing what bernie sanders does. he avoids getting into a food fight with these guys, for the most part and saying he wouldn't take a shot at kamala harris for saying she misheard that question about whether or not she supports getting rid of private health care. >> and it's a bill she cosponsors and that's what she brought up today. but she has given different answers on this. and a couple of different times and the campaign did try to clean it up today, so i mean it's clearly something that the
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harris campaign is worried about. he wants to focus on what he wants to talk about, and he's been through 2016 and he'll stay on messag and you won't get him off his message and, you know, he's not a warm and fuzzy guy, and he'll admit that. and he's not charismatic and he'll admit that also. he's good at his message and he believes what he believes. >> and how much did he gain in last night's debate is that a lot of people said it was a mixed purchase. >> his policy agenda is really shaping the broader discussion in the democratic party in part because he's moved some of the members of the party toward him, but also there's this question about what direction the party is going to go, but bernie himself does not feel as much at the center of this race as his policies are. there are other options for people who want that really progressive big government
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funded program vision that he has. >> and he also makes sure he didn't go after joe biden when he was asked do you think he's still the front-runner in this race. but i want to go back to the conversation we were just having about joe biden, what he has to do the next hour, and what he could talk to activists in chicago. you were saying you were speaking to voters. what do they want to hear from joe biden about his record on race particularly in the aftermath of his comments? >> a lot of voters i've talked to have said, you know, they have 40-some years of joe biden including eight years as barack obama's vice president. and i'm not saying they're willing to necessarily give him a pass but i think they are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he continues talking about those four decades in politics. >> yeah, and the question is do you think he needs to actually clean it up in anyway or just say, you know, look, i am the person who was the vice president with barack obama, the
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first black president. trust my record on civil rights, look what i've done. will that be enough to win over those voters who may be concerned about what they heard last night? >> yeah, well, you know, win over versus, you know, holding onto the voters that he already has. but i think that his method, his process of, you know, talking about his record thus far has seemed to be working in particularly with african-american voters. if he continues hammering that home that may give him some benefit. >> thank you for joining our conversation. up next a generational divide on full display on democrats debate stage.
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joe biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to a new generation of americans 32 years ago. he's still right today. if we're going to solve the issues of automation, pass the torch. >> as the youngest guy on the stage i feel i probably -- >> a part of joe's generation -- >> that was congressman eric swalwell and mayor pete buttigieg two 30-something candidates trying to become the 2020 candidate nominee. swalwell didn't mince words basically saying biden should step aside. and today when asked if former vice president joe biden's time was over this is what buttigieg
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had to say. >> i still believe that a person of any age could be a great candidate. the question is if you're offering that generational outlook is it backed by a vision that explains what our generation is supposed to deliver? if we were supposed to promise going back to the 2000s ore 1990s even that's implied in our messaging i think we're going oo lose a lot of people. i wonder, do you think this generational argument is it resonating? does it work with voters? >> you've got boomers arguing with millennials. it's our lives everywhere not just in the presidential debate. you know, and it wasn't just the two millennial guys who made a generational argument. kamala harris was making a more subtle generational argument when she said you were in the senate talking about busing, doing legislation on busing. i was a second grader being bussed to school. like, that was also a generational pitch not just about race or about policy.
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>> yeah, and swalwell was trying to be very overt. >> he was not being subtle. >> he was not being subtle at all, and you had an interesting exchange with bernie sanders last night. let's play. >> there is a generational argument being made by one of your younger rivals suggesting that maybe you and vice president biden are too old for this race. what do you make of that? >> i mean i think that's kind of ageism to tell you the truth. if i were to say to a younger person, you know, you're not qualified because you're only 35 or 36 or something like that, you don't have the experience, that's not right. i don't think so. judge people on the totality of who they are, what their ideas are, what their experience is, what their record is. >> he is upset. >> he was, and he said, look, you can't discriminate for anything else. i think when you're running for president, though, anything is fair game to ask about your fitness for office, health and other things. i think the point he was trying to make on stage there is say,
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listen, here young man to get something accomplished you need experience and gravitas. so i think the generational argument is a real one because it speaks to something else. as you were saying if you can tie it into policy the history of the democratic party is to find the younger nominee from jimmy carter to bill clinton to barack obama, so that is what biden is up against. >> there's a real pattern in politics drawn in by these younger, fresher faces. maybe not quite as young as pete buttigieg who's 37, but barack obama was 47 when he was elected, and there's something about democratic voters that really -- they do get drawn in when you make this argument about the future and looking to a new generation. >> you've seen the two debates, the party move pretty far to the left on some issues that could be potentially problematic in the general election and republicans believe they could be issues problematic such as health care for undocumented immigrants. look at the new york post cover,
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it says who wants to lose the election and everyone raising their hands. politically is this going to be problematic for the democratic candidate in the general election? >> i think this comes down to this is the gap between the parties and it's getting wider. and the republican party is moving further to the right, and the democratic party further to the left. i mean so i think they feel this is the battle line. they're very happy to fight over this ground and i think the democrats are, you know -- you saw sanders push the party in this direction in 2016 but i think the party is going and you're going to win the primary you're probably going -- >> this is really going to be a debate in the general election in some of those key states particularly in the west how they deal with it we'll see. up next, senate democrats and the house speaker taking some heat from their own party. health is magnificent. so are the traits you love about your breed,
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the president but progressive house democrats many of whom voted no, slammed their house counter parts. >> senate democrats joined the leadership behind mcconnell and supported something that had no safe guards, no basic human rights for these children. what are you doing? you're just throwing money and saying continue when you're doing, president trump. >> he said they lack -- those are pretty strong words. >> i feel pretty strongly about this. >> and what they did is to say we have the same values as trump and the republicans, and this is sad day i think in how history will record us. >> but i am deeply saddened that our republican counter parts and that the president and that the senate could not accept such moderate improvements. >> this has been definitely the most divisive fight so far in speaker pelosi's tenure in this
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go around. should we expect more of this in the weeks and months ahead am. >> i think she's going to have problems moving forward. i mean, this is like this has been a slit that's there between the moderate wing of the party and the much more liberal progressive wing, aoc wing and the group that you were interviewing. and they -- this all came out in the open. pelosi was going to try and pass a house bill that she had modified after cutting a deal, a monitor bill and then, you know, we'll take up the senate bill. and, you know, she had 95 of her democratic voters after her. >> i wonder more broadly politically democrats worry this should deflate their base. it looks like they're caving over control of one part of
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congress. >> except there are also a bunch of moderates who helped give them the majority, and those moderates came to washington saying they were going to do bipartisan things and this is bipartisan thing. pelosi gave herself a little bit of a buffer with some of her members by extracting what is described as concessions by vice president pence. they sesh certainly it's not enough to satisfy the more progressive part of her caucus and we'll see if they really get these administrative changes that the vice office promised but there's at least a little for her. >> what we're going to see now between now and the election essentially pelosi trying to tamp down those and tamp down the moderates who put down the
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majority. >> and that's her number one priority right now, keeping the house, making sure those moderates are safe, those trump stricts. a lot to watch in the weeks ahead. thank you so much for joining us on inside politics. hope to see you back here sunday morning. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn. after coming under attack on issues of race, just moments from now you're looking at live pictures now, biden will be speaking at this conference at reverend jessie jackson's rainbow coalition. we're going to bring it to you live. senator kamala harris delivered a scathing rebuke of biden. she confronted him on his recent comments a
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