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heartbreaking and makes him sick to the stomach to learn that tyler skaggs at 27 is dead. >> very heartbreaking. we'll stay on top of this story. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. biden slipping. a brand new cnn poll shows the former vice president losing support as kamala harris vaults to second place. is the front runner in prubl? the president says iran is playing with fire, this as he cozies up to north korea. does he have a coherent strategy. and is taxpayer funded security being misused for secretary of state mike pompeo and his family? let's go outfront. good evening everyone. i'm in for erin burnett. biden takes a hit.
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cnn just out with a poll, the first one conducted after the debate and revealing a big crack in the front runner's facade. biden still in the lead and kamala harris is up there in second. dig in a little deeper and you will see biden's lead has narrowed to just five points. the 22% is down ten points for may. harris who took on biden at the democratic debate is surging up nine points from may. while harris is making significant strides with democratic voters, she is behind biden among one key segment of democratic voters right now, african-american voters trailing him by 12 points in this poll when it comes to support there. and this is despite harris being seen as the top candidate to handle race relations right now. biden is leading on issues like economy and the environment. like our new survey also shows, it's still a real race. and the candidates are seeing an
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opening. listen to cory booker. >> you have one destiny in this nation and right now the vice president to me is not doing a good job at bringing folks together and is causing a lot of frustration and pain with his words. >> jeff zeleny is outfront live in washington. put it all in perspective for everyone. what are the candidates seeing here in these numbers? >> there is no question, this race is resetting. all images of joe biden being the front runner are now reshaping this summer. he is a fragile front runner at best here. the biden campaign is aware of th that. he has been talking about that saying don't look at the polls. the reality is the biden campaign was not expecting this to happen quite this soon. it was that debate performance in miami that certainly opened the door to challenges to joe biden. are others going to try to walk through the door, as well? there are openings for a variety
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of candidates tlmpt is no question that senator harris has benefitted the most from this. one thing is clear from the poll, overriding six out of ten democrats, 60%, they want to find someone who can beat donald trump, not someone who aligns with their issues perfectly. so take a look at this number. this is one number the biden campaign is actually seeing some positive hope in, that 43% of respondents say that biden is the person that has the best chance to beat trump. sanders 13, harris 12, warren 12 m 12. this shows that joe biden does not have a lock on the race. i'm told he will be campaigning more and doing more interviews and more moments on the campaign trail. and all leading up to the cnn debate at the end of the month that is critical for joe biden.
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>> it's no joke now raising the stakes for that cnn debate when we see what the result of the last debate has provided. mark preston cnn senior political analyst and democratic state representative in south carolina endorsed kamala harris. mark, overall, biden dropped ten points from may. how much of a problem is this moment for him? >> well, you know, when we look at the polls and look at the selection, let's talk about moments in time. a lot of times people look at the polls and say this is going to be predictive of what happens in november of 2020. jeff zeleny is absolutely right. in this moment in time is not a good time for vice president biden specifically because they didn't think it would come this quick on them, to drop ten points literally over ten days and see the rise of elizabeth warren and kamala harris by eight points and nine points respectively is really an amazing feat and a lot goes into that is the moment on thursday
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night. there has been a lot of talk about this being the year of the democratic woman. that in itself has got to help with the poll numbers with kamala harris and elizabeth warren who had very solid debate performances. >> and biden's team may say the polls go up and down, but we know that kamala harris's is fundraising off of the polls now. governor, you worked with biden on his debate prep. this poll was taken entirely after the debate. do you think this is because of anything other than what happened on that debate stage, what we are seeing in these numbers? >> i think it's clearly because kamala harris and elizabeth warren had a great performance. i think that coming away from this, the lesson for all of these democrats is that you can go in to a democratic debate and you can punch. i think there were some people who were a little bit worried about doing that. there was some punching going on. kamala harris did it very well,
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very empathetically. i think you will see a lot more of that in the cnn debate because people have learned that you can do that without a huge backlish. i think some people were concerned about if they punch people then the democratic electorate will get mad. let me just say i think the one thing that comes out of the poll that is super interesting is i think you will see some real attacks on the issue of health care for sure because in that poll you see a small, small number of democrats, 31% only, think that you should be able to take away people's health care in exchange for a government-run plan. health insurance, right. so eecven the liberal democrats say you should replace health care with that government-run plan, your health insurance. that's super rife for an attack. >> absolutely. do you also think this means joe
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biden -- jeff zeleny says he will be doing some things different on the campaign trail. do you think this also means strategy for the debate has to change for him, too? >> yeah. i think it's clear. i think that when he went into this debate and i will not give away strategy, of course. everybody knew going in, he was to be the first person to say those numbers that were last month and the month before are not going to hold. it's just not realistic. i think he will say he will fight for every single vote out there. but i do think that it enables all of these candidates to be able to come out swinging a little bit more. >> we'll see what that means. harris clearly got a big boost from the debate. that seems to be kind of unanimous agreement on that. but this poll does show that biden does still have a big lead and big support among black
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voters. he has a 12-point lead there. why do you think that is? >> well, here is what i believe. senator harris proved thursday night that she is the only candidate that can take it to donald trump. and what you will notice in this poll when it comes to african-american voters is a lot of african-american voters are still getting to know senator harris. and as they get to know her -- >> why do you think she is the only one to take it to donald trump joe biden is still leading among democrats. >> this is one poll after one debate. i think what you will see as we do the cnn debate at the end of this month, you will continue to see those numbers reflect senator harris. let me say this real quick.
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especially when it comes to african-american voters, after the debate -- actually, during the debate, my aunt called me and said that that little girl was also her when it comes to bussing. she is from south carolina. she was one of the first group of african-americans to integrate strong thurman high school. what you are seeing as senator harris tells her story and connect it to policy, you will start seeing those numbers jump especially in the african-american community. >> governor, you touched on this and my humble opinion is that i think that this reshaping of the race really just increases the stakes for the next debate. if we see what a debate can really do in terms of the standing of these candidates. you have biden, harris, warren, sanders all within eight points of each other. how does it really set up the stakes for the next debate?
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it just to me means everything because maybe it's because the gloves really weren't off a until this point on the campaign trail. and we really for the first time saw it on that stage. >> right. you have to do it deftly, though. that's why senator harris really did it deftly because she did connect it with her own personal experience. you can't come across as mean. she said it hurt. and that was a very personal moment. so you have to do it in the right way. i do think that the stakes are really high in such a fluid environment. it's really super high for the folks at the very bottom because in september those folks are not going to be on the stage unless they come out. so you will have seven candidates in september. it's going to be wild on the cnn debate. it really is going to be worth watching.
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>> not to plug just cnn. >> you can anytime you want. i'm fascinated by the electability question. the six in ten democrats saying it is more important to have a pneumn nominee who can beat trump. biden is leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to that measure with 43% saying he has the best chance of beating trump. then you have sanders. what does this actually tell the campaign? how do the other campaigns attempt to chip away at that? >> a couple things, when you look at the number, what is striking about that number is the numbers behind the number. it shows that it's not just moderates and conservative democrats. it's also liberal whose might not be supportive of vice president biden. that number is not solid. you will have to hear more policy proposals and more talking about how they will try to get some things fixed and
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done. here is the tough spot that these democrats are in. they have to a350e8 to a liberal electorate in order to win the primary. they have to appeal to everybody in order to win the general election. we'll see how these candidates play it out over the coming months. expect to hear more from the democrats about nuts sdp bolts because that is what is going to get them there in the end. >> something else is also fascinating. biden is the top choice for who folks think can handle the economy amongst the candidates. harris is well behind. among the top tier that we are talking about here, she is at the bottom really at the pack on all issues except who can best handle race relations. why isn't she making an impact on the issues? >> once again, i think what you have here is that it's still about people hearing her message. you know, the former vice president has been in public life for over 40 years. senator harris has come on the
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international scene probably four years ago. so the american people especially here in south carolina will still get to know her. but if you go through her policies and take a good look at them, her 3:00 a.m. agenda and paying our teachers more here in south carolina. we had over 10,000 teachers walk out on may 1 of this year. when you talk about that $500 for middle class every month middle class families. once you really -- when you talk about demanding that corporations pay equal pay for women, when you talk about if congress won't act, her taking executive orders to do something about gun violence, you know, people are still -- this is an opportunity with the great performance she did on thursday night with the debate now for people to take a look at her policies. so you will start seeing those numbers of confidence grow. this is a long election cycle.
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we're still over 200 days away from the first vote. we have a long way to go. >> we'll see when folks start seeing more policies. much more to come. up front, ivanka trump under new scrutiny for trying to act like a shadow secretary overseas and getting this look for nudging her way into a conversation with world leaders. president trump leveling a new threat as tehran steps up its nuclear program. >> they know what they're doing and playing with. i think they're playing with fire. and the man by kamala harris's side taking on a more public role in the campaign from helping out voters to taking on protesters. who is kamala harris's husband? do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs.
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perhaps getting the most attention, though, tonight, is the french government releasing video trying to edge into world leaders. >> as soon as you -- >> outfront now, democratic congressman of california, member of the house foreign affairs committee. thanks for being here. >> thank you, kate. >> with that video, you have seen it. context is always key. we don't have much of context from what the french government released. it did feel really awkward. what do you make of this? >> thank you for your question. the french government knew exactly what the video tape looked like and chose to release it. i find that very interesting.
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i don't know why ivanka trump was at the g-20. it was not clear to us what she was doing. she has very little foreign policy. it does send a message to the rest of the world that america doesn't seem to take the g-20 all that seriously when this happens. >> you think that's what it is. she is a senior adviser to the president. if you think she is his closest adviser, why not have him there? that's what the white house is saying. >> so the reason we have nepotism laws in america is we think it's not a good idea for you to have your children as your closest advisers especially when you're president of the united states. you should have people who have foreign policy experience and experience in diplomacy. it's not clear what experience ivanka trump brought to this other than being the daughter of the american president. >> few americans have set foot inside north korea. ivanka trump went into north korea. she was seen entering this blue
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building, as you see, with jared kushner where you can cross into north korea away from cameras. secretary of state mike pompeo throughout the visit remains largely in the background. it reminded me how rex tillerson has complained of being boxed out of issues. do you think the same thing is happening now with mike pompeo? >> it could be. what's troubling is that at least secretary mike pompeo was confirmed by the united states senate. here you have people with very little foreign policy or diplomatic experience who are take these roles and positions and edging out people who do have either experience or have a confirmation by the senate. so i think this is not a good way to run american foreign policy. and on the issue of north korea, it's a really big deal for the american president to step into north korean soil and the united states got exactly nothing for that. >> if you are concerned kind of
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of the role of secretary or lack thereof of mike pompeo and ivanka trump, you do sit on foreign affairs. is there something you want the congress to do about it? >> first we want to know what kind of strategy does the trump administration have for variety of conflicts including north korea, including iran. the american people have no idea what the administration has in terms of iran, what they want iran to do. that's why today i led a letter asking very basic questions of the president such as what are your goals for iran and how do your current policies get us to those goals? we don't have the very basic answers. >> ivanka trump isn't the only trump child in the news. don jr. is facing back lash for questioning kamala harris's race basically saying that she is not a black american because her
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parents come from jamaica a. the campaign's response is basically racist attacks like this didn't work against barack obama and it won't work now. what do you say? >> donald trump uses race to attack people. it is no surprise that his son would also use race to attack people. what this also shows is that the trump campaign is very scared of kamala harris. i have known her for many years. i'm glad the rest of america is finally seeing who she is. she is smart, tough and we saw she is presidential. she is going to be our next president. >> we will test that theory because we have many, many more months to go in this campaign. thank you for coming out. appreciate your time. >> thank you. outfront, president trump's plans for july 4th. we now know it includes tanks. why? what is the point? plus, a cnn exclusive.
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breaking news, they're playing with fire. that is breaking news to the reaction that iran violated the nuclear deal by surpassing the stock pile. president trump pulled the united states out of the deal a year ago. here was the president's reaction tonight. >> they know what they're doing. they know what they're playing with. i think they're playing with fire. this as the "new york times" reports the trump administration is considering a nuclear freeze as an option with north korea which would mean accepting the country as a nuclear power instead of the complete de-nuclearization president trump has repeatedly demanded. kaitlan collins is outfront at the white house for us. it's a stark contrast in tone when you hear the president's tone towards iran right there versus north korea.
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>> reporter: and seeing the president cross into north korea as a sitting president what a different tone you see. the question going forward here and this is the strategy and he does allow north korea to remain this nuclear power, would an agreement with north korea look like the iran nuclear deal which the president pulled out of saying it was disastrous. how would he navigate that? the president says his trip to north korea, stepping over the line and meting with kim jong-un for nearly 15 minutes has reignited the talks. are those talks going to look different if this is something that is on the table now. in the last 20 or so months you have seen the president take a very hard line against north korea at times. even his secretary of state mike pompeo setting a deadline of january 2021 for north korea to denuclearize.
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of course, we are already seeing some division in the administration over whether or not this is what they are going to take going forward especially coming from john bolten, the national security adviser reacting to the "new york times" report and saying that neither he nor anyone on his staff has discussed a nuclear freeze with north korea and saying that he feels someone is trying to box president trump in here. of course, if the president is being boxed in, it may seem that john bolten is being boxed out here. that's because an aid said he was already on a flight to mongolia. it is striking to have not even the national security adviser present for talks such as this. >> thanks so much. outfront with me now, former director of national intelligence under president obama, retired lieutenant general in the u.s. air force, james clapper. >> thanks for being here. when it comes to iran, let's start there. you're not surprised that they have taken this step by kind of
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the most major way kind of blowing through the deal that was set in 2015. was it only a matter of time in your mind after the president pulled the u.s. out of the deal that they would be doing something like this? >> first, it's hard to ignore the irony of president trump decrying, complaining about the iranians exceeding the threshold established in the agreement of the obama administration which the president has roundly criticized. and i frankly am surprised that the iranians went this long. >> really? >> by continuing to comply with the provisions of the agreement. now, what they're doing, just to put it in context, the limit that was established 300 kilograms of uranium and they are about to exceed that amount. it takes 90% for weapons grade. so they are a ways away from that. this is i think most
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symbolically an important threshold that they are going to break. >> looking at the prospect of a nuclear iran and a nuclear north korea, which one poses a bigger risk? >> well, i actually think iran is the greater threat because they have a lot more tools available to them to cause mischi mischief, not only in the region, but elsewhere in the world. so they have proxys. hezbollah and lebanon. and they have special forces and all of this. and they can start up problems and trouble elsewhere in the world in eastern europe or southeast asia and other places. so they have more reach. they are a much larger country and have more resources than does north korea which has one thing going for it which is nuclear weapons. >> let's talk about north korea. on the most -- i don't know if this is the basic level.
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president trump has always said that complete verifiable de-nuclearization is the only outcome that is acceptable. here are a few examples of him saying this. >> we actually signed a very good agreement. it said we will have a complete de-nuclearization. >> number one statement, we will immediately begin total de-nuclearization of north korea. nobody thought that would be possible. >> sentence one says a total de-nuclearization of north korea. >> so how big of a turn around is this now if he is open to just a freeze in production? >> well, it's a significant turn or change if that's the case, if they are considering it. it's not just this administration. prior administrations have basically followed the same
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policy telling the north koreans you must denuclearize. when i was there, the first white house talking point i was issued to recite was you must denuclearize. i was there for about five minutes and deduced that is a nonstarter. for the north koreans, this is their ticket to survival. they are not going to easily give up their nuclear capabilities. so i think the notion -- i said this many months ago, the notion of capping what they have now as at least a start point -- lots of folks in this town are uncomfortable with the fact that the likes of india and pakistan have nuclear weapons. the reality is they have them and have been responsible with them. perhaps the same approach can be taken with north korea which defacto is already a member of the nuclear club and have been for some time.
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they want a recognition that they are also a nuclear power. i think if de-nuclearization is ever to occur, it will take a very long time and the path to it is going to start in seoul, not necessarily in washington. >> let's see if any real steps are taken towards that as we are discussing here. thanks for being here. outfront next, a cnn exclusive, a whistleblower accusing the state department of misusing taxpayer funded security for secretary of state mike pompeo and his family. why he's calling it uber eats with guns. kamala harris's husband making a name for himself on the campaign trail.
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tonight, uber eats with guns. that is what one whistle blower is describing the way diplomatic security agents are being used. cnn has learned an investigation has begun into whether taxpayer funded security is being improperly used for secretary of state mike pompeo and his family. >> reporter: democrats are looking into allegations that the diplomatic security service is at times running errands for the secretary of state in one
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instance picking up chinese food for mike pompeo when he was not in the car according to congressional investigators. it lead to complaints the security team was treated like uber eats with guns. another time picking up the dog from the groomer. >> i have a soft spot for my golden retrievers. >> reporter: and according to a document provided, agents were told to pick up mike pompeo's adult son at washington's union station. according to protocol thrks secretary should be in the car during these trips and doing them only if there were a threat to necessitate it. the state department did not deny that the trips took place but insisted at no point during my service did he or any member of his family to act in a way inconsistent with our professional obligation to protect the secretary. it's not clear whether the alleged tasks were initiated by
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mike pompeo himself or someone on his staff but told congressional investigators that there is a culture to try to please pompeo and not make him angry. >> these are not the people that go around complaining. they do their jobs proudly and quietly. you had somebody who decided to go to congress. i think that has to be taken seriously. >> reporter: congressional investigators are seeking to understand why pompeo's wife has her own security detail. this is unusual according to a former ds official who said if security was granted in the past, it was for short periods of time and only after a threat assessment for that person was done within an intelligence division of diplomatic security. the whistleblower told congressional investigators that multiple agents were warned not to use her call sign which is shocker over the radios because they know it's not kosher something the state department
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spokesperson calls absolutely and definitively not true. the spokesperson tells cnn only that an initial threat assessment was done in july 2018. a special agent in charge defended the assignment. today the security threats against secretary pompeo and his family are very real. the security service is proud to protect the family from those who would harm the secretary of state and the united states. so in addition to this whistleblower saying multiple people within diplomatic security feel like the long standing procedures were not followed in granting susan pompeo her security detail we know there have been questions within the state department about her role there, for example that she was chairing meetings at state about logistics ahead of a recent trip and that rubbed some people the wrong way. and now a second whistleblower has come forward to the same congressional investigators, somebody from the executive floor of the state department saying staffers were told to keep discussion involving susan
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pompeo out of official e-mails as to keep it out of the official record. >> interesting. thanks so much. next richard painter who served as white house ethics lawyer under george w. bush. i was going to tease you, but you are right here. what is your reaction to this reporting? >> well, this is the first time i have heard of the united states government providing an armed escort for a dog coming home from the groomer. they might as well go in for this and give the dog a full motorcade back to the secretary's house, i guess. this is just what we have seen more and more of in this administration, whether it is secretary pruitt, the administrator who had tactical pants and james bond phone booth or the secretary of interior flying around at public expense
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and the treasury secretary going on his honeymoon on the aircraft paid for by the taxpayer. it goes on and on and they're not going to stop in this administration. it's illegal. they know it, but they don't have to stop because the president won't fire them. he won't enforce the law. >> do you think that's really what it is? mike pompeo if this reporting bears out is not the first official to be accused of misusing government funds. you listed out some. there is even more. what does it say that there are so many accusations against members of the president's cabinet? so many different cabinet members, some of them leave and are still there. it just keeps happening. in my mind, i think they have learned from the mistakes of those who have gone before them. >> if i listed every official this administration has misused government funds i would take up
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your show and the next show after it. it goes on and on and the message is clear from the top from donald trump. you don't have to follow the rules. he's not complying with the constitution. he is not complying with a lot of the rules. kellyanne conway is allowed to violate the hatch act over and over again. they get a letter from counsel and put it in the trash basket. they get a subpoena and put that in the trash basket. this is not going to stop until the house impeaches the president. it's going throughout the administration. and this is a very small thing compared to what else is going on in this administration. >> more to come is what i guess i should fear. thank you so much for being here. appreciate your time. outfront next, kamala harris's husband a fixture on the campaign trail and now getting more attention. who is doug. plus jeanne moos on the crooner who is not in trump's
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president of the united states. >> i don't know if we're ready for a first lady named doug. >> he's the most fully actualized person you'll ever meet. >> reporter: and unafraid to tweet his dad moves. or share his affection for his wife of five years. >> you know, i waited to get married, and i think that one should marry somebody who will be your best friend and with whom you can laugh and be comfortable and that's, and that's who he is. >> when i look at them, i see america. i see a biracial marriage. i see a blenlded family. >> reporter: he's a powerful presence not for who he is but his unexpected action on the trail. when a woman fainted, he jumped to help carry her away. and when a protester got this
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he is who he is. he's not pretending to be anything he's not. >> the harris campaign says that m. hoff will tiptoe on the stage. when he ask how often he's going to be deployed, they say, you know, we're still trying to introduce camillkamala harris t international voters and when he has come, like the protest with the man bun guy, they say that happened by sent and he did all of that by instinct. >> the man bun guy. interesting look, thanks so much. >> you bet. "outfront" next, gee knn gk and the president having a tough time. this is the couple who wanted to get away
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don bolton meet michael bolton but in the eyes of president trump are they one in the same? is jeanne moos. >> reporter: when national security advisor john bolton sat there and heard president trump call him. >> mike bolton. >> reporter: maybe john felt like michael. ♪ i could hard by believe it >> reporter: even if a president did correct his mistake immediately. >> mike bolton, john bolton is here. >> reporter: it's happened too many times. there was "the new york times" article that said sometimes with aides, the president refers to him as mike bolton. discussing nuclear issues no less, not bad for a love song. ♪ how am i supposed to live without you ♪ >> reporter: the president lived without john bolton into north korea and meeting kim jong-un while bolton was off on a
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diplomatic mission to mongolia. read one tweet, how many times can trump call john bolton mike bolton before he quits? but don't take it personally, mike, john, whatever. the president was trying to honor apple ceo tim cook when he said -- >> we appreciate it very much tim apple. >> reporter: and meant no disrestridisr disrespect when he called this ceo. >> marlin la kweed. >> reporter: and talks about not making mistakes. >> we all make mistakes. go ahead, ken. >> reporter: the president misspelled his wife's melania's name in a welcome home tweet. there was one occasion when michael bolton sang things that john bolton said. >> the late show had michael perform alarming john bolton quotes to make them seem less scary. ♪ but a strike can still
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succeed ♪ >> reporter: maybe that's what confused the president, michael wearing john's mustache. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening. new poll in tonight and it confirms what many debate watchers suspected. the democratic presidential race is shifting to kamala harris' direction at joe biden's expense and more evidence from the g 20 trip he's more happy talking to tyrants than heads of state like himself. before going further, hard headed diplomacy deals with savory characters and out right thugs and if that's what the president was doing, it would be controversial but for good purpose or a definable purpose. inste instead, his critics and