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"outfront." >> i'm kate baldwin in for erin burnett. welcome to a special edition tonight. no skins on the census. the administration telling a federal judge today that it's moving forward with plans to fight to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, even though they've already started printing it without the question. how do they plan to do this? that is the million dollar question tonight. the president claims that he is considering a number of options, four to five, he said, including the power of the presidency. >> are you going to do an executive order on the census us. >> we are thinking about doing that. it's one of the ways. we have four or five ways we can do it it's you one of the ways we are thinking of doing it. >> at the same time his department of justice is still looking for ways to fight it out in court. and take it back to the supreme court. for example -- >> you need it for many reasons. number one you need it for congress. you need it for congress for

directing. you need it for appropriations, where are the funds going? how many people are there? are they citizens? are they not citizens? >> he is making the case for the reasoning there. but remember that that reason that the president gave there is not the reason that we have heard before just like four days ago. >> i think it's very important to find out if somebody is a citizen as opposed to an illegal. i think there is a big difference to me between being a citizen of the united states and being an illegal. and you know, the democrats want to treat the illegals with health care and with other things better than they treat the citizens of our country. >> and something of that sentiment just today being echoed by the man in charge of president trump's citizenship agency. >> frankly as part of the ongoing debate about how we deal both financially and legally with the burden of those who are not here legally, that is -- that is pennsylvania relevant

issue. >> are you confused? you should be. but this is important, because the reason and motivation behind adding the question into the census is everything. our partisan pliks driving the fight or maybe door number three? the president also pointing to history. >> if you look at the history of our country, it's almost always been asked. >> now, it has been asked. but not of everyone. and most of the -- not of everyone most of the time. and selmer not since 1950. but regardless, the scramble and confusion is because the president is demanding his department of justice find a legal path to carry out his wishes, even though it appears no path exists right now. abby phillip is "outfront" live outside the would you say tonight. abbey, the president seems undeterred on this front. >> absolutely. and so undeterred that he is turning his whole administration's plan upside down in order to pursue in without a clear path for

victory. the president earlier this week when his commerce secretary forward got so much blowback ng- from conservatives about in issue because it strikes at the core of something that is important to his base, which is namely knowing who is a citizen and who is not and drawing a bright line between those two groups of people. and so that is why we are where we are today. but the president trying to push forward on this, signaling to his base that he is not giving up. and in the process throwing his commerce secretary wilbur ross under the bus. wilbur ross was the one to say we are moving forward with the census printing the documents without the question. and president trump according to sources has been frustratewood ross, believing that ross gave up on this issue when he wants to fight. that's according to a source. so where we are right now is that the administration is basically struggling to come up with a plan. and as you -- as you mention, the president is falling back on something that he often does, which is executive action, saying i'm just going to file an

executive order to fix this. the problem is it's not clear that that is even going to work, whether that will pass muster with the supreme court. that's already said, the administration needs to go back to the drawing board on the rationale for this. and so at the moment the administration is simply trying to figure out a legal path forward. and it all may not end up with the citizenship question being on the census at all. but at the end of the day president trump gets to tell his base he did not give up on this very important fight for him. >> win or lose, or draw, the fight is exactly what president trump is -- you can see taking back to his -- taking back to his political base on this issue. great to see you abbey. thank you so much. as you can tell it's all questions with few answers right now. but let's see where we can with it. "outfront" is dale hoe, the director of the voting rights project for the aclu, at the center of the legal fight against the trump administration and this census citizenship

question. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so the justice -- the department of justice, they're going to continue this fight. from what you've now heard today, what is your response? >> well, the supreme court blocked this question because it found that the department of justice and commerce were not truthful, essentially lied about why they put the question on the census. and now their response to it isn't okay you got us here is the real reason. the response is give us more days we're coming up with another story. and you hear the different rationales emen eight zbroog the supreme court did say go do back to the drawinged board. he did not believe what wilbur ross was offering up. >> that's right. he said it was contrived. now the administration is saying give us more days we're going to condrive something else maybe you'll like door number tloos throe, as you put it. >> what's your take on the executive order? the president's considering an executive order to do this. if he does, what do you do? >> well, it doesn't make any difference if it's an executive

order or decision by skmers commerce secretary wilbur ross. anything can be challenged in court. the president issued executive order on the wall it was challenged in court and blocked. issued an executive order reskrinting daca that was blocked. he issued executive order on three versions of the travel ban two of which blocked in court and third of which stleeft gllted in court. to don't make any difference for an executive order. if it's illegal it's illegal. >> whoa you list those out a lot of those took time in court. this could be expedited because we are looking at declines of course. are you concerned about this -- president trump will fight this to the end. there is no downside for him on this. >> i think the end has already happened here. the administration has said over and over again that no changes to the census form can be made after june 30th. well it's july 5th. they. >> that was clear a fabricated that was one of the madeup deadlines because now the deadline is october. >> they said to the supreme court you need to hear this

case. expedite this case, you need to shorten the time that we had to brief in case. for them to go to the supreme court and say ha ha just kidding that's not a good way to run a justice department. >> are you confident if this does end up back before the supreme court it was a slim majority that blocked it this time. are you confident you will prevail again? they did say come up with another reason, no matter if it's logical or not to you or seemed constrived or not now, it could be another reason it could end up -- it's been on the census before. it could end up back there again. >> well, look, i don't like to predict the outcomes of things. but i am confident -- we prevailed in the supreme court once. because of the administration was trun truthful. now they have to say not only do we have a new reason berp untruthful with you supreme court about the june 30th deadline. this smells of bad faith from top to bottom. and i can't imagine that the supreme court is going to give its blessing to this. >> the reason behind this is

everything. rate, the motivation, why do you want to add it wak on? that's what became the question before the supreme court. there are a couple of things i want to play for you because i want to get your take. one is ken cuccinelli. 's the accurate aing director of the citizenship agency for president trump. let me play what he said. >> frankly, as part of the ongoing debate about how we deal both financially and legally with the burden of those who are not here legally, that is -- that is a relevant issue. >> it's not an entirely clear to me exactly what he is trying to say in the reasoning for putting the question on the census. what do you make of the reasons zroo i'm not sure it's clear to him either. the question that they're proposing to put on the census sus a question, are you a citizen or not. >> yes. >> it wouldn't ask whether or not you're undocumented or not. the rationale that mr. cuccinelli is articulating there isn't one that could be advanced by a citizenship question. it wouldn't tell you anything

about the undocumented population specifically. >> if we're being totally honest, this is -- it's complicated and simple all in -- all wrapped up in one. it's complicated to talk about, you know, the census, citizenship question, when it started in 1790 and continues and whatever. president trump made one very basic argument that i want to play for you about why he believes at its core the citizenship question matters. listen to this. >> we're spending $15 to $20well on a census, doing everything, finding out everything about everybody. think of it. $10 to $20 billion and you're not allowed to ask them, are you a citizen. >> on the most basic level how is he wrong about that. >> we're not finding everything there is to know about everyone through the census. the census sus actually a simple survey with ten questions on it. the reason it's so simple is we need people to respond to it.

if people don't respond they are missed in the kens us and don't get the accurate population count. the bureau has all other kinds of surveys to find out other information. the unemployment statistics it's through a sample survey on a monthly basis. if we want to know characteristics of the population like citizenship, documented status, there are whiches of doing that without complicating the census. because you want the census to be a as simple as possible so that people respond and we get an accurate head count. >> dale, do you see the point that just the fight for the president is good for him politically. >> i can't comment on it one way or the other. i'm just a lawyer. i just litigate in. >> i can't comment on anything i'm just a lawyer. thank you for being here. see what happens next and see if you will be arguing before the supreme court again soon thank you very much i appreciate your time. "outfront" next joe biden calls trump a bully. is the president wise to take the bait. >> i don't think i'm a bully at all. i don't like being taken advantage of.

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biden's exclusive interview with cnn. >> i don't think i'm a bully at all. i just don't like being taken advantage of. >> but that is exactly what biden says the president is. and a fresh round of name calling on the campaign trail. >> the idea that i'd be intimidated by donald trump? he is the bully that i knew my whole life. he is the bully that i've always stood up to. he is the bully used to make fun when i was a kid and i'd stutter and i smacked him in the mouth. but this is not -- i think the american people want a president who has some dignity, who has a value set, who is actually trying to restore the soul of his country. when i turn on the television they look up and their kids say i want to be like that guy or that woman. >> outfront now cnn articlette siems following the biden campaign. >> is team biden happy that trump is sparring with biden

again? >> we believe kate, biden's team see president trump's willingness to engage with joe biden as just another sign that he is concerned about biden becoming the democratic nominee and having to face off against him in the fall. as our colleagues over at the white house have reported, biden's -- sorry, trump's advisers have warned him against going after joe biden, bringing him up unwarranted, because they don't want to elevate the former vice president any further. but in that interview, that kpnl that he had with our colleague chris cuomo, biden is trying to reassure voters that he is ready to take on president trump, despite that uneven debate performance where he was drawing friendly fire from his fellow democrats like kamala harris. biden trying to reinforce the notion that he is the best person prepared to taken oh president trump. he also in that interview was pushing against this idea that there is a leftward tilt in the democratic party.

biden describing himself as center-left. he thinks democrats are more in line with the center-left have you which also when you think about it can also play into a general election argument as biden is hoping that he can pick off some of knows previous trump vet voters, kate. >> there is strategy to it all. absolutely. great to see you articlette thank you so much outfront now, rob. asterino pb for president trump's re-election advisory counsel. jennifer. you helped prep biden for the debate. the candidate you see smacking trump in the mouth, calling him a bully, is this the reset you want to see. >> i loved this interview. i thought it was a great interview. i think it shows he is ready to start punching at trump, and it allowed more fullsome conversation obviously than debate allows. but i think chris asked some really sharp questions. and i think it will continue

to -- you know, the conversations will continue to evolve. i like that biden was able to get out more clear punches at the president, because i think that's what exacts want to see. >> biden -- biden is making adjustments, rob. does he look like a more formidable candidate. >> no. just calling him a bully, that's going to scare donald trump who is used to tussling withen anyone and everyone at any time. >> on sne any issue real or imagined. >> if you hit him he hits back twice as hard. chris brings that up in the interview. are you ready to not only tussle but you know go after with everything you got, but i think and maybe the governor can answer this. i think before he gets to trump obviously he has to get through the democratic primary. and you saw it in the debate. he is tentative. i think the issues he had with women thinking he was being inappropriate to them, how is he responding now against a kamala harris, or an elizabeth warren,

two women who he has to gets past to win the nomination. it's a delicate balance for him to attack them. and yet you know he has the whole issue of being inappropriate to women in the past. that's a really tough balancing act. >> are you. >> i'm not talking about sexually how he is going to treat them. bus the dynamic against the a woman and against donald trump a man. and you got to thread the needle if you are owe biden. >> you are on the team of the guy who last week was accused of rape and has been. >> and nobody is taking it serious it's so ridiculous. >>'s that's all i'm saying you raising this issue about joe biden close -- physically in persecution imt with women is just a completely apples and oranges things thing. i do think the point about anybody going into this next debate thinking that they can play nice among democrats meaning that nobody is going to be attacked has been set -- set straight. that is not going to happen. this debate will be a battle.

clearly. and i think that what joe biden raised today in the -- in his explanation that democrats really want to be able to have an option to keep their private insurance and an option -- a public option like to buy into medicare is one of those fault lines that you will see play -- laid barron the stage. and i think that no one is going to be pulling punches. >> on the issue of issue of pulling punches. you have biden, now, governor, talking about smacking trump in the mouth. i want to splay what kamala harris said yesterday when asked if -- a similar question, is she ready to basically throw down against trump. asked about this by a caucus goer listen to in. >> there is so much to fight for and so much at stake. we can't afford to be lovely. and then lose. so we need to know how to fight. and -- and there is no question

in my mind also that we will win. >> can't be lovely and lose. do you think that's what democrats really want to see for their candidates to get in the mud with trump? >> are you asking me? >> yes, sorry, governor, yes. >> yeah, yeah, i do think that democrats want to know, can you throw a punch back? it doesn't have to be getting into the mud. it can be a strong solid punch. they want to know are you a warrior on my behalf? because trump is a bully. he is that guy as joe biden said in the school yard. and when you are bullied you have one or two -- of two choices. you can become a bully or stand up to bullies. and that's what joe biden is expressing that he is going to do. that's what others want to do. that's what kamala harris is saying today. i'm a warrior on your behalf. i'm not going to have to get into the mud. there is so much obvious about what this president has brought our country, sunk it done to. but let me see quickly one one of the bullies where bullying

series of comments really is important when it comes to the international affairs because trump has seen to side with bullies. and to be against our allies. and that i think is going to be a legitimate and fair series of conversations that they have in the general election as well as in the primary process. >> rob. >> well, you know, the whole sinking, the economy certainly is not sinking. the jobs report out again a quarter million new jobs wages up, lowest unemployment across the bored for every sector. so, you know, they're going to have to run a campaign saying things are bad we people are going, it's not bad i'm at work. my salary going up. talking about bullies, you know, trump is confronting people around the world but doing it in a different way that's been done in the past. he is not at a baseball game with castro giving cuba everything they want and getting nothing in return. trump is taking a different path here. and so far we haven't had bombs or at least reports of bombs coming over hawaii when everyone was scattering. you know, that was the fear in the past. now trump is here.

>> well that was the fear when trump started going after kim jong un and calling him rocketman there was a peer about that. that was under president trump. that wasn't president obama. >> look where we're at today. we've got. >> well. >> relative peace around the world we don't ee denuclearized peninsula. >> what, what. >> a lot closer than we've ever been. eight years. >> no, no, i'm saying there there's been no evidence of any change in terms of nuk north korea. >> respond to this question eight years you sat there with president obama and you turned a blind eye and north korea is now this close to getting a nuclear bomb what did you do for eight years? trump is dealing with it. >> fwaebl factually rob no evidence they are this close. >> this close. >> no evidence of anything close zbloer why are we paying attention to north korea who cares. >> you don't need to i guess but the rest of us should. >> i think this is going to be a very interesting primary and general election thanks guys. >> thank you. >> thank you, governor. you can watch much more of

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welcome back to a special edition of outfront. tonight 2020 candidate kamala harris coming up a bit short. her campaign announcing the senator raised just under $12 million in the second quarter. that's a big number. don't get me wrng. but less than she raised in the first quarter. less than half of what another democratic candidate mayor pete buttigieg raised in the same time. this comes as harris makes a big push in the first in the nation state of iowa. a state harris hasn't paid as much attention to as some richls. kyung lah is outfront.

>> kamala harris. >> kamala harris makes her first swing through iowa since the democratic debate. and she works the crowd her breakout debate moment with joe biden comes up again and again. >> after the debates, i really confirmed my support for her. i love joe biden. i think he is a wonderful guy. but i think we need new ideas. we need new younger people. >> 30 new harris workers started this week to capitalize on the latest iowa poll showing her in second place behind biden and catch up with the organizations built in the state by rivals elizabeth warren and cory booker. >> i think she is quite frankly maybe the only one that can beat the [ bleep ] the white house. >> but chris remains skeptical. >> she needs to pay more attention to iowa. we are the first caucus. and that's where she needs to be. >> what happens if she continues

this way? >> people snub her. you know, they'll just think that she just don't care. >> she is talking about the emphasize harris put into iowa. harris has made five visits to iowa, holding fewer events that bernie sanders was cory book are and elizabeth warren. while she and booker have done the most in south carolina. where harris makes a ninth trip this zbeekd. >> south carolina. >> south carolina remains central to harris ace path for the nomination. but the last democrat to win the nomination without winning iowa was bill clinton in 1992. >> a liechlg iowan. >> who says she felt you haven't paid enough to iowa. what do you tell a voter like here her. >> i care deeply about iowa and the state which issed why we put the kind of resources we put in. i don't know how many times i've been here already and will come back.

>> i think we will see polls change throughout dsh i think people will have moments. >> iowa state auditor rob sand an incumbent winning in 2018. as a caucus strait one-on-one contact is crucial to win. >> you have to show up and give them a chance to understand you and see who you are. >> we will win this election. [ cheers and applause ] >> shortly after kamala hair ace last event here in iowa in sioux city her campaign released how much she fund raised in the second quarter. the number is nearly $12 million per her campaign. that is it just under what she had raised in the first quarter. if you compare where she is with the rest of the pack, pete buttigieg leads in how much he raised in the second quarter at $24.8 million. joe biden at $21.5 million. at bernie sanders at $18 million followed by kamala harris. >> kyung thank you so much outfront now democratic congressman barbara lee of

california. congresswoman thanks for being here endorsed harris. >> my pleasure. glad to be with you kate. >> thanks. >> are you concerned on the iowa question are you concerned the harris campaign is late to the game in iowa? >> no, kamala harris is paying a lot of attention to iowa. she has been there for the last two days. and i'm telling you there have been overflow crowds. and i think people in iowa really know what we've known for many years, and that is the more you get to know kamala, the more you hear kamala, the more you understand and support her. but also the more you understand her policies and support her policies. she is building out her infrastructure in iowa and in new hampshire with over 100 volunteers. and she is going to continue to build momentum in iowa because she understands very well that the needs of iowans. and she really wants to be there over and over and over again

because she intends to win there. >> one indicator of support is often money. and the harris campaign announced they raised just under $12 million in the second quarter, putting her behind buttigieg, biden and sanders in terms of the candidates who announced second quarter totals. as a member of congress you know how important fund raising is. as a supporter are you disappointed? >> absolutely not. when you look at kamala harris she has raised over 25 million throughout the campaign. the second quarter she has 150,000 new donors. right after the debate she raised $3 million. and let me tell you what is so important about this. she has a broad-base of support. her average donation is $39. her average online donation is $24. and then when you look at the fact that after the campaign half of the new donors were -- half of of the donors were new donors. so she is right on track, working very hard and going to

win in campaign and raising the kind of mona she needs to win. >> you got to keep raising the money as you well know. got to keep -- because you'll spend a lot of it you got to raise it. >> that's right and she is demonstrating that she can raise it and especially how she is raising it from small donors. i mean $34 is the average donation. $24 online. that says a lot about the people that she is connecting with who support her. >> for everyone at home that gives you a lot of room to grow in how much people are giving you. and your base. and this exclusive interview that joe biden did with cnn he said that he wasn't prepared for the attack that came at him at the debate from kamala harris. let me play you what he said. >> i was prepared for them to come after me. but i wasn't prepared for the person coming at me the way she came at me. she knew beau knows me. >> harris was asked about that statement and she said she didn't no what to say about that

remark. what do you say about it. >> let me just say -- i watched the debate and i understand how personal this is for senator harris. as it is for millions of americans, especially for african-americans, and for myself. i remember very well the days before brown versus board of education. i could not attend public school with white children. and it's the federal government, kate -- it's the federal government, the busing, the the mandatory busing, that really did allow for the integration of schools. and so when you look at our federal government it's extremely important to recognize that it's the federal government that has -- has provided for equal access for our voting rights, civil rights. and now we are fighting for the equality act for lgbtq rights. so kamala harris understands this very personally. and i think that when she said what she said she really did understand that this was wrong

and wanted to make sure that -- that the vice president understood that working with segregationists to oppose busing affected millions of people. and we want our federal government to support the rights of minorities. >> accommodates, thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. much more to come. outfront for us next, a border agent calling out other border agents for humiliating a migrant in custody. this as more shocking social media posts are exposed. plus, 2020 candidate john hickenlooper is outfront. will a major campaign shake-up give him the momentum he needs to take on the top tier, the former colorado governor is my guest. we're oscar mayer deli fresh and you may know us from...

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tonight president trump is not only defending customs and border patrol but also applauding the conditions inside migrant detention centers. >> i've seen some of those places. and they are run beautifully. they are clean. they are good. they do a great job. >> he says this despite a government produced report released this week detailing dangerous overcrowding and unhealthy and unsanitary conditions. even calling these facilities in in report a ticking time bomb. and now cnn is learning of another secret facebook group linked to customs and border

agents filled with racist and offensive posts about migrant -- migrant families and democratic lawmakers. let's go to the border town of el paso, texas, natasha chen is it outfront. natasha, the posts in the -- in the now second facebook group uncovered are just as offensive as the first. what are you learning about it tonight? >> yeah, well it's supposedly called the real cbp. and they are very disturbing posting. we have seen a couple of images obtained by our colleague nick valencia one showing representative alexandria ocasio-cortez standing neck to a water fountain and pointing to with a caption saying is this a toilet refrpg to her comments earlier in the week where migrants told her that they were forced to drink out of a toilet? we have seen another meme where border patrol agents make light of family separations. we also know that there have been demeaning comments posted by asianen a african-americans.

so this is pretty disturbing even to facebook. facebook spokesperson told us this that they took down some of the content from the secret group because it violated some facebook policies. here is part of the quote from a spokesperson there saying we believe in giving people a voice but we also want everyone using facebook to feel safe. that's why we have community standards and remove anything that violates them. we also know from a cbp spokesperson saying that this alleged content does not reflect the values of the agency, kate. >> natasha, there is also now another border patrol agent coming forward to call out their colleagues, making accusations of humiliating migrants inside a detention facility. what can you tell me about that. >> yeah, this supposedly happened in early march where a border patrol agent witnessed coworkers handing a handwritten note to a honduran migrant the note read i like men in spanish

and he was made to walk through holding the note. we know from emails obtained by nick valencia that the border patrol agent witnessing the behavior approached called it out as unprofessional, actually alerted a senior border patrol agent in charge that evening but nothing was done according to the emails. those emails also show that this witnessing agent said this incident was just one of many. and now kevin macle evenen has been called for investigation into that incident. >> a lot of investigations under way under his authority. thank you appreciate it. >> coming up 2020 contender john hickenlooper urged by his staff to drop run for the presidency and instead run for sfrat. is he considering that. >> and jeanne moos why ivanka trump is showing up just about everywhere. parents have a way of imagining the worst... ...especially when your easily distracted teenager has the car.

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since a big staff shakeup was announced with the campaign manager, finance director and spokeswoman on their way out. what does this mean for hickenlooper now? the governor joins me now. governor, thanks for being here. >> my pleasure, thanks, kate. >> thank you. what does this staff shake-up mean? what should folks take from it, governor? should this be a bad sign about your campaign? >> well, no. i think i'm excited about where we're going and i think, you know, that i want to find the meat of what i've been trying to say and say it in a different way. i'm running for president because this country, i think, i think trump has been fueling a national crisis of division, and i think a lot of what i've done both as an entrepreneur and small business owner, but also as a mayor and a governor really directly speaks to that. i feel like that i haven't been successful at expressing some of

the solutions we've created that would be scaleable for the entire country. >> one source told cnn that some of the staff on your team -- that more staff on your team could be on their way out, though. is that the case? >> i don't think so, but you never know. i look at -- well, i look at what we have assembled, all these really talented people, and this opportunity where, again, i think i'm the one person out there who's actually done the big progressive things that everyone else is talking about. in colorado we got to near universal health care. the last three years according to u.s. news and world report, the number one economy in the country. we passed tough new gun laws in terms of universal background checks. these are things that most of the other candidates talk about but haven't actually done. >> fund-raising numbers are

rolling out right now, as the deadlines have come and gone. kamala harris announced today what her second quarter fund-raising numbers are, just under $12 million in the second quarter. your campaign hasn't released yours yet. will you be releasing them soon, or can you tell us what you raised? >> i think we're going to release them next week and there's a whole process to rolling them out. we have to have enough resources to be able to get that message out. we want to make sure that people in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina -- >> are you confident that you have enough resources coming in to continue getting that message out? >> yeah, i think so. i think that the challenge here is making sure that the message is something that people hear and they connect with. if that happens, a successful message spreads like wildfire. you just have to find -- well, you have to make sure it's the right message. >> you say you need to rejigger it, if you will. what have you been getting wrong so far?

what's the change now, governor? >> well, i think i've talked so much about policy and my record, and i think the record is important to be able to -- you know, when i was mayor, we were the first big american city to get to universal preschool. we were able to do major police reform ten years before ferguson. we emphasized that record upfront. i'm not sure, i think maybe it's equally important that people know that i was out of work for two years. when i came out to colorado as a geologist in 1981 and commodity prices tanked in the mid-'80s, we all got laid off and it's tough when you've been out of work for a couple years and you begin to see a different person in the mirror. you know, that's a side of me that a lot of people haven't seen and haven't heard. i take responsibility. i control what comes out of my mouth. i hadn't expressed those sides of myself in a way that would connect with people. >> in terms of reworking your

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>> reporter: from landing on the moon to landing with the pilgrims, ivanka trump has been everywhere lately, thanks to a video showing a moment when the president's daughter tried to join a conversation with heavyweights like the leaders of france and britain at the g-20 summit. resulting in awkward body language that some read as what's she doing here? and this was born, #unwantedivanka, crashing the last supper, joining yoko ono and john in bed, walking across abbey road with the beatles, barging in with elvis. a meme as ivanka sat across a beam with construction workers and spied on a royal wedding kiss. it was the french government that posted the snippet that inspired the meme. now the french are saying oops,

telling politico we didn't anticipate the action. we are not responsible for the use made of the clip. how would they know ivanka would end up amid egyptian hieroglyphics, at risk of being kicked by u.s. soccer star megan rapinoe, adrift with jack and rose after the sinking of the titanic. >> promise me that you'll survive. >> reporter: #unwantedivanka has survived for days. the white house blamed ivanka haters, telling "vanity fair" they were absolutely pathetic. >> has anyone ever heard of ivanka? >> reporter: it had been a high-profile trip for the president's daughter. she even made north korean tv. >> ivanka trump -- >> reporter: after korea she made stops from everywhere like brokeback mountain, transported by bike like e.t. and like e.t., ivanka took off.

she was even spotted in o.j.'s bronco, #unwantedivanka riding with a wanted man. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening and a very happy fourth of july weekend to you and your family. i'm jim sciutto in washington filling in for anderson. tonight excerpts from cnn's exclusive interview with joe biden. my colleague, chris cuomo. sat across from the former vice president in iowa on july 4th and discussed a wide range of topics and people. some of what biden had to say included frank assessments of his fellow democrats, several of whom have responded since today. they include senator bernie sanders and congressman alexandria ocasio-cortez. we'll talk more about that in a bit. but first we want to show you two excerpts from that interview. the first part begins with bide