welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. it's a busy friday, thank you for sharing it with us. the labor secretary alex acosta resigns, deciding his role in a sweetheart deal for jeffrey epstein more than a decade ago is too much of a political headache now for president trump heading into his re-election campaign. plus, mueller delayed. the special counsel's long-awaited congressional testimony now likely being pushed back a week to july 24th, as lawmakers try to negotiate a deal for robert mueller to spend more time taking questions. a 30-minute session with reporters this morning outside the white house, trademark trump. lots of insults, lots of twisted facts. plus takes on house speakers, past and present. republican paul ryan gets a trump tongue lashing. democrat nancy pelosi gets an endorsement of sorts.

>> i'll tell you something about nancy pelosi that you know better than i do. she is not a racist, okay? she is not a racist. for them to call her a racist is a disgrace. paul ryan was not a talent. he wasn't a leader. he wouldn't give subpoenas. whereas nancy pelosi hands them out like they're cookies. >> we begin today with the biggest headline out of that trump session with reporters, the hasty and important trump administration cabinet shuffle. the labor secretary, alex acosta, says he's stepping down. that less than 48 hours after secretary acosta defended himself to reporters. wednesday acosta insisted the nonprosecution deal he gave to accused pedophile jeffrey epstein a decade ago was on the level. today the labor secretary 234r5 flanking the president on the south lawn said he didn't want to be a decision and that he made this decision. the boss, though, didn't hesitate to accept it.

>> he explained it. he made a deal people were happy with and 12 years later they're not happy with it. but i want to let you know, this was him, not me, because i'm with him. as far as i'm concerned, i watched alex yesterday. i thought alex did a great job. alex, i think you'll agree, i said you don't have to do this. he doesn't have to do this. >> let's get straight to kaitlin collins live at the white house. is this as presented a decision just by the labor secretary on his own? >> reporter: john, the president said alex acosta called him this morning and came over to the white house to offer his resignation because he saw the epstein deal as something that was going to hang over the administration. while the president said, hey, it's alex acosta's idea to resign, not mine, this certainly comes as a relief to the president who based on our reporting had been voicing skepticism about acosta and whether or not that news conference he held had done enough to calm the uproar over his role in jeffrey epstein's plea deal. we reported initially the

president, who urged alex acosta to go out and defend himself was favorable in his initial reception to that press conference, telling people he thought he did a fine job. after the president was hearing criticism from other people who thought alex acosta had not done enough to defend himself in that press conference where he did not offer an explicit apology to the reporters and didn't answer my question about whether or not that's a deal he would make again today, the president started to get hesitant about acosta and started questioning why the victims weren't notified in that deal. something that has been one of the sharpest points that alex acosta's critics pointed out. in the end that is why many people in the west wing yesterday were skeptical about the labor secretary's future. it had been more than 24 hours since the president told him to go out and do that press conference and he still hadn't had any public praise on how he had done. leading to that question today and that odd appearance on the kout lawn where we learned alex acosta will no longer be serving as the labor secretary, therefore putting another acting

secretary in the president's cabinet meeting ahead of next week's cabinet meeting here at the white house. >> another acting. a big day at the white house. with me in studio, dana bash, olivier knox, margaret talev. we have no reason to doubt otherwise. alex acosta decided we're heading into the re-election year. jeffrey epstein is in court tomorrow, this will carry through the election year. i don't want to catch all these p harpoons and being a distraction to the president. did he make the right call? >> i don't know if it's the right call but there's a court case unfoedle in new york. in a very public setting we will see every day, every other day, every week, every month, we'll hear about the dozens of girls that jeffrey epstein allegedly assaulted. it was going to be an issue the white house would have to answer every single day. every new revelation would call into question alex acosta's

decision-making in that sweetheart plea deal and every new development would have reporters to say, mr. president, is this the type of person you want serving in your cabinet. i'm glad you underlined the legal part of this because that's where most of their problems come from. the political stuff is that we get constant revelations. >> but he's going to be in court. one assumes he'll fight these charges in court. as the court case continues, you have all the hearings, all the motions, all the documents, plus all the reporting, mind you. part of the reporting that got secretary acosta in trouble was "miami herald" reporting that the victims felt mistreated by him and more and more details and they were willing to come forward. a lot of factual questioning the presentation he gave, saying he was just putting lipstick on it and glossing it. yes, i made a tough call, a hard call and ignoring a lot of facts, people said. >> the goal of this press conference was to put all of these questions to rest and get the story behind him and it didn't end up doing that.

it ended up putting more questions out into the public sphere and causing the white house to wonder whether they would get more questions about this. president trump has a couple of different relations to this case, not only his labor secretary being the chief prosecutor who struck this deal but also president trump has a long-standing relationship in the past with jeffrey epstein. there are pictures that put the two men in the same place that were playing on cable news. even alan dershowitz has a relation to this case so the president saw this was going to continue to turn up the heat on his administration and on his white house, on himself personally. he didn't like how it was playing out on cable news and that's part of the reason he accepted this resignation. >> back in 2002, the president told "new york" magazine i've known jeffrey for 15 years, terrific guy. he likes beautiful women as much as i do, many of them on the younger side. so businessman trump knew about jeffrey epstein and apparently knew about jeffrey epstein's problem. it's worse than that.

today, today, ever we time this came up in coast, secretary acosta would be in the news and today the president tried to make clear yet again, yes, we had, emphasis on had, a relationship. >> i was not a fan of jeffrey epstein. you watched people yesterday saying that i threw him out of the club. i didn't want anything to do with him. that was many, many years ago. it shows you one thing, that i have good taste, okay? now, other people, they went all over with him. they went to his island. they went all over the place. he was very well known in palm beach. his island, whatever his island was, wherever it is, i was never there. find out the people that went to the island. but jeffrey epstein was not somebody that i respected. >> so he was a fan before he was not a fan, let's be clear. if he could find some way to put andy mccabe on the island, you'll see that. you'll see the president try to

redirect. there are a couple of factors at hand here. one is that there was this whole parallel issue with acosta that some in the trump administration had. there were republican lobbyists, some inside the white house who felt that he hadn't been as aggressive as he could be about deregulation, about changing the climate in his role as labor secretary. that was underlying and existed before the epstein problems bubbled up. in a way, i think you don't do a news conference like the one acosta did unless you have to. and it was kind of a let me see if i can turn it around hail mary kind of thing. if it couldn't work, i think he wanted to have some control over framing his explanation before he went out. as we have all seen, when the tide turns, if there are enough republican lawmakers in the senate, for example, who are like he's got to go, you don't always get to have the last word. that was him trying to put into context if he had to go or if he could stay. >> and you almost never see somebody who is on their way out getting the last word or any

word, much less -- i mean standing next to the president praising you as you're leaving is unheard of in this administration. what you usually get if you're lucky is a tweet that you see and you first learn about your being fired or forced to resign or whatever it is. it is very unusual. the other thing that's unusual is of course every democrat pretty much had said that acosta should resign, but there wasn't the groundswell from republicans yet. they were saying let's just see how it plays out. but whether it was acosta, you can take him at his word or acosta understanding the writing on the wall because the president was like, okay, we're done with this. this was not -- not that any of this is traditional, but this was the most traditional, humane, civilized exit of a cabinet secretary that we have seen in this entire administration. i understand that that is a crazy thing to say given the

fact that we're talking about rape of children. but the outcome politically is what i'm talking about. >> to that point let's show a little bit of it in the sense that alex acosta again today standing by the president's side defending, defending, you've seen some trump cabinet turnover there. there's an acting labor secretary. you see all these other cabinet turnover. but the idea this played out in a traditional way. many of those people on screen found out they were fired on twitter or from a hasty call by the white house chief of staff. in this case you see alex acosta standing next to the president still defending himself, still saying he thinks he made the right call 12 years ago. and then saying this is why i've got to go. >> i have seen coverage of this case that is over 12 years old that has input and vetting at multiple levels at the department of justice. as i look forward, i do not think it is right and fair for

this administration's labor department to have epstein as the focus rather than the incredible economy that we have today. my point here today is we have an amazing economy. we have unemployment lower than we have seen literally in my lifetime and the focus needs to be on this economy. >> would the president listen to that? we've had a couple of record-breaking days on wall street. >> acosta is the latest republican to invite the president to please, dear lord, focus on the economy and not everything else. one thing the president said in his remarks, he suggested that the victims were satisfied with the plea deal years ago. >> they were not. >> and recently changed their mind. they were not. they were not informed about it. that to me raises a lot of questions. i don't believe that he was fretting the past few days over whether the victims were notified about the plea deal. the remarks on the south lawn suggest quite the opposite, in fact. >> empathy, especially for victims, has not been a strong

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special counsel robert mueller's big day on capitol hill being pushed back. not a signed and sealed agreement yet, but the plan is to delay the special counsel's appearance one week, from next

thursday, july 17th, to july 24th instead. this comes amid bipartisan complaints on the house judiciary committee. the initial agreement with mr. mueller did not leave enough time for questioning. manu raju is tracking this story up on capitol hill with the latest. what's happening? >> reporter: that's right. it looks like it's very possible that this hearing could be delayed by a week. it's not final yet. jerry nadler's office says it's still at the moment on for wednesday. but talking to members on both sides, it's pretty clear that the agreement was just not satisfactory to a number of members because initially what the special counsel had agreed to under subpoena was to come for two to two and a half hours for the house judiciary committee and the same amount of time for the house intelligence committee. that would leave about half of the members on the house judiciary committee not enough time to question the special counsel and a number of members do want a chance to question, saying they should be able to press him as well. one member, hakeem jeffries,

told us this is not about ego. it's not about trying to be in the spotlight. it's about getting to the truth. >> every single member of the house judiciary committee on a democratic and republican side should be able to participate in the hearing in some way, shape or form. >> what's the reason? why do members need to be asking questions? why do you need your time in the spotlight? >> i don't think anyone has suggested that they should have time in the spotlight. i think at the end of the day the american people would be better served if we spent as much time as possible communicating the importance of the stakes of this hearing as it relates to an incredible attack on our democracy. >> reporter: the initial agreement about 22 members of the house judiciary committee would get a chance to question, split roughly between both sides. that would leave about 20 or so members not being able to allowed to question, more junior members, which is why we heard the pushback. one other reason we're hearing from the possibility of this

delay is that the justice department has raised concerns about deputies. mueller's deputies from testifying behind closed doors before these two committees. democrats i'm told want more time to negotiate to bring in those deputies after they had previously agreed to testify, so all this being soared out on this busy friday. but it looks like it's headed to a potential delay of this very highly anticipated testimony. john. >> appreciate the reporting there. let's bring it into the room. on the surface, they're working out the details, they're trying to get more time to keep everybody happy, delay it a week. given what we've been through and given how we know, mueller was reluctant number one. mueller's former boss, the attorney general of the united states, doesn't want him doing this at all. he called it a spectacle the other day. could this collapse or are we just having a scheduling issue? >> so it's already moved beyond the point of a scheduling issue. what we've been hearing behind the scenes is questions about whether they have nailed down all of the terms of how this testimony will work. this only works in the

democrats' favor if it's a dignified process that mueller himself is not like -- the whole time. so is he going to answer any questions that are procedural that begin before that may 17th date when he took over. are the questions going to be structured in a way where any new information actually emerges? what's going to happen with the other attorneys who were working on the mueller team? if those details aren't pinned down, this doesn't work. the notion that this problem is coming because of democrats exerting pressure on nadler rather than mueller or the justice department or the white house exerting pressure is kind of insane. that's the last thing that jerry nadler should have to worry about. >> but that is such a key point. yes, everybody has been waiting for mueller to testify. people wanting mueller to testify. but democrats have some to gain but they have a lot to lose here, a lot to lose if it goes south for any reason, especially if it's robert mueller himself

who makes clear that he is not comfortable with the format. they're already going to be battling the fact that every single republican will try to undermine mueller and the democrats at every single turn. they have to get their ducks in a row. if it is just a scheduling -- just a need a little more time to figure those things out, worth it. >> and just to add to that, the one person who has the most at stake here, meaning the president of the united states, made clear again today he thinks this is all a farce. >> how many bites at the apple do you get? we've gone through 500 witnesses, 2,500 subpoenas. i let them interview my lawyers because i had nothing to do with russia. now that's come out. there was no collusion. now they want to have him again. they want to go again and again and again because they want to hurt the president for the election. there's nothing he can say. he's written a report.

the record said no collusion and it said effectively no obstruction. >> it did not say effectively. it did not say anything close to effectively. not close, not close. please read it if you haven't. but he hopes this collapses without a doubt. >> it's not going to collapse whether it happens next week or the week after or in august. this is going to be the most highly anticipated, highly rated testimony before congress of this presidency. more than michael cohen, more than brett kavanaugh. this is something that everyone in the country is really anticipating and waiting to see whether or not this will be sort of a nixon-type moment of the and i believe that's part of the reason the president is trying to downplay it before it happens because he knows a lot of people will watch it. >> better schedule another rally. >> maybe he'll just add a second, who knows. we're getting close to the election, why not. what new polls tell us about joe biden's chances for the white house. but first, a fun moment last night. bernie sanders making light of

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welcome back. some warning signs for the former vice president, joe biden, in a new post first debate's look at the democratic presidential field. this is nbc/"wall street

journal" reporting. the former vice president still in the lead among the democrats but 26% say they're for joe biden. below 30% is not where you want to be when you're supposed to be the front-runner. call him the leader. elizabeth warren in second place at 19%. senator harris at 13%, senator sanders at 13%, mayor pete buttigieg at 7%. let's look at our cnn poll of polls. we average out the five most recent credible national polls in the race. biden still at top at 25%. harris, sanders, warren, a close second place if you will. three candidates essentially in a tie there. mayor buttigieg at 5% but his number there a concern for a candidate that was a big surprise as we head into the next debates just two weeks away. one more warning sign, a big one for the former vice president. the nbc/"wall street journal" poll asked which candidate impressed you? senator harris the runaway winner here.

47% said she was impressive. that means people will give her another look. senator warren too with a good number there. look at the former vice president. he and mayor pete, 15%, 15%. if your calling card is i'm the democrat you want on the debate stage against president trump next november, that's not a good number for the former vice president. he needs to think about that as he heads into the second debate here on cnn just around the corner. vice president biden struggling here and vice president biden on the mind of the president outside the white house today. >> when i see a guy like biden who's weak and ineffective, and everybody who knows him knows he's a weak man, he's an ineffective man, i see what i'm running against. you've got sleepy joe biden, he doesn't have the energy to be president and the people that are nipping at his heels don't have what it takes. >> tradition is you don't mess in the other guy's primary. the practice of that president

is at every opportunity you mess in the other guy's primary. >> to me what's interesting about this sort of thread through all of this post-debate polling is if you look at harris and elizabeth warren together as kind of a combined category, you see that among those democrats who are responding to these polls, there is collectively more interest in one of these two women than there is in biden. to me it suggests momentumwise some difficulty for sanders and suggests that biden, if those two women can stick together, that seems to be one of the interesting emerging threads. of course president trump will throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. all the old traditions about campaigning are out the window. >> if you look at it and again it's early, we have debates coming up in a little more than two weeks from now, but your establishment candidate, joe biden, is coming down. your anti-establishment candidate from the last cycle, bernie sanders, is struggling.

these new faces, democratic primaries are often what's new, what's different, what's for tomorrow are they are ascendant. >> what's also interesting just on the trump dynamic vis-a-vis what you just said, my reporting is that one of the main reasons why the president has been calling out joe biden so much is because he was just convinced that biden was going to be the nominee. you might as well just start to weaken him now. aside from the pocahontas moniker that we've heard so many times and still hear occasionally, he hasn't touched the others who are ascendant yet. the question is whether and if that tide is going to under t. the fact that it hasn't yet is fascinating. >> he started to yesterday with elizabeth warren. >> but not harris. >> and so speaking of harris, well reviewed first debate performance. one of the reasons it was well reviewed, she aggressively took it to vice president biden on

his past record about busing. here she is this morning on the breakfast club serving notice, if you think that was a one debate theme and i'm not going come back to it, you're wrong. >> i'm not going to let us engage on a debate stage who's going to be the next president of the united states, i'm not going to allow us to engage in revisionist history. i can't standing on that stage and allow certain conversations to be taking place. but i cannot be on that stage and not speak up to make sure that we are having a full accounting for american history on these issues. >> so there is a -- should not be surprised vice president biden if this continues in debate round two. f all of the good numbers in the polls for her, there's a fox news poll out just among african-american voters, if you look at black democratic voters in south carolina, biden 41,

sanders 15, harris 12, then booker, warren, buttigieg and williamson. if you're senator harris you're making progress but you're still looking for a breakthrough. >> that's exactly right. if you look at this from a purely political point of view, her attacks on joe biden during the last debate made sense. she needs to cut into his support among african-americans and he made some gaffes that allowed her to have an opening and she took that opening. she was telegraphing on the breakfast club earlier today that she's going to continue to push joe biden. there's a big target on joe biden's back because his numbers are still strong with black voters in south carolina and elsewhere in part because of his long history with president obama. we saw in 2007, 2008 that hillary clinton was leading in south carolina with black voters. but when it became clear that then candidate obama was able to written win in iowa, that shifted very quickly. i think that may happen if

kamala harris can show that. >> biden, he had a long history in the black community, and long history as barack obama's vice president. among south carolina democratic primary voters, who's the best candidate to handle racial issues? biden is at 24% but there's senator harris at 21%. there's an opening right there. >> there are a lot of undecided democratic voters or democratic voters who say i stand with so and so but i'm still making up my mind. there's another thread in her recent remarks which is to sunder obama and biden, more democrats identify as obama democrats and that's one of the reasons biden is doing so well. i do want to say the first votes of this election are after the super bowl of an nfl season that hasn't started. >> you're no fun. >> you meant to say the first votes are after tom brady and the patriots win? >> no, i didn't mean to say that at all. >> are you sure?

>> yeah. >> are you a new englander? >> hush, you. >> rebel vermonters, it happens every now and then. up next for us, the other big headlines from president trump's pretty interesting south lawn discussion with reporters this morning. ♪

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topping our political radar today, president trump weighing in on several other topics at his impromptu press conference this morning. the president continued to defend his decision to back away from the census citizenship question. he said using other methods other than the census would be more effective and, quote, actually more accurate than the census.

>> no. not only didn't i back down, i backed up. anybody else would have given this up a long time ago. the problem is we had three very unfriendly courts. they were judges that weren't exactly in love with this whole thing. so i asked, is there another way, and somebody said there's a way that might be better. it might be more accurate. they explained it. i said then what are we wasting time? we're going to be in court the next two years. what are we wasting time for. >> actually that other way was recommended months ago and he said no. president trump confirming that i.c.e. raids to deport undocumented migrants would start on sunday. the president calling new york mayor and presidential candidate bill de blasio the worst mayor in america for being against the raids. and since the migrants came in illegally, they have to go. >> it starts on sunday. they're going to take people out and they're going to bring them back to their countries or they're going to take criminals

out, put them in prison, or put them in prison in the countries they came from. we're focused on criminals as much as we can before we do anything else. >> also, the president's reaction today to some tough new words from the former house speaker paul ryan. the former republican speaker earning the president's horns today on the white house north lawn. at issue ryan giving a candid interview by the upcoming book by tim alberta. don't call a woman a horse face, don't cheat on your wife, be a good person. set a good example. president trump hitting back on twitter last night made to sure to hit back again on camera this morning. >> paul ryan was a lame duck for a long time as speaker. he was unable to raise money. he lost control of the house. the only success paul ryan had was the time that he was with me because we got taxes cut. i got regulation cuts. i did that mostly without him.

but for paul ryan to be complaining is pretty amazing. >> also called him a baby. >> yeah, i mean their relationship was -- there are some interesting points in there, right? so the main success being the taxes, the inability to get the wall. we could do a slice and dice of what republicans didn't get done during the two years when they controlled congress and the white house. but to the extent that paul ryan is trying to sort of set a template for republicans who have been quoted privately in a bunch of news articles the last two years, privately expressing their concerns, privately saying they don't side with the president. it's interesting to have paul ryan come out and do it with his name attached. >> he's trying to reshape the history of the relationship, it seems, in this book, the interviews that he gave. because on his way out, the m.o. on him was he never stood up to the president at all. in this book he's saying, well, not that you heard. so it's going to be interesting

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if you stay focused just on the democratic primary, you can see why. look at the support for these ideas among democratic voters. some of it is off the charts there. only eliminating private health insurance is a tough sell even to the democratic base. so you understand crowded field, democratic voters, why the candidates are doing this. some were left to begin with, others are being pulled left. here's my question and we'll start with this. if that's how you end up a democratic primary, not one big bold idea but several, medicare for all, maybe free tuition, maybe allowing felons to vote while in prison. can you sell it here and here and here, for example? the three states that president trump flipped from blue to red. or are the democrats in the appeal to their voters setting themselves up for disappointment come general election? >> you just asked the $64,000 question or 300 million people question, however you want to frame it for 2020. that's it. yes, some of the more liberal

candidates have made proposals because they have fire department pulled that way because they're the loudest voices in the electorate and those are the people who are running. but it's also because many of them really believe it and they're true believers and they believe sort of like donald trump did on the other side of the political spectrum that if you stick with your policies and you stick with your positions, you're still going to ride to victory. >> they believe -- they believe you will ramp up african-american turnout. >> we don't have the answer. >> you will ramp up young turnout. we don't know it. they are making a bet that they can overcome what trump did in 2016 by turning out more people, new people excited about this. we will see if they can. that is the big question because we can't answer it unless and until we have an election. if you look at these proposals, look at the key elements of the trump pace. health care for undocumented immigrants. 66% of senior citizens, 65 plus, oppose that. oppose that. they were a key part of trump's coalition. 63% of independents, president

trump won independents last time, oppose it. 75% of white noncollege educated oppose it. this fortifies the trump base, if you will, some of who have questions about the president. not sure if they want to vote for the president again. free public tuition. support the right of prisoners to vote. 76% white noncollege, bad idea. 73% voters over the age of 65. so these democratic proposals might appeal to the base. they animate in opposition the trump base. >> yeah, when i talked to members of the trump campaign they are salivating over the fact there are going to be a bunch of debates where democrats will have to answer these questions and pull their party to the left. when you talk to democrats, they believe they will not only get disaffected trump voters but also energize their own base. they believe that the people who stayed home in 2016, the obama coalition sort of plus will be energized by these new proposals. you do see some democrats going

full on and full speed toward that left position but you see people like joe biden who is basically kind of laying low, saying maybe we'll have undocumented health care for people in emergency situations, not necessarily taxpayer-funded plans. so he's trying to play both sides and make sure that he can energize some of the base but also not turn off those trump voters. >> trying to pull it back. if you look at the last two democratic presidents, barack obama won two terms, he wasn't this liberal. he was left of center but not as liberal as these candidates are. >> i share the belief there are two messages in american politics, change is needed and change is scary. medicare for all are helping the trump side maybe make that argument. one of their core arguments to date has been, yikes, socialism is coming. to the degree they can harness this stuff, maybe that serves them well. on the other hand, i think the biggest thing that worries the democrats that i talked to is

the private -- doing away with worker -- employer-provided health insurance. >> even their own base likes that. >> without having an actual very clear plan. what we have today is not that clear and they're concerned about selling voters on that kind of change. >> i think for the democrats who are trying to break past the single digits numbers, some of these ideas are a way to get attention and to hold the spotlight for a little while. if you're one of the top sort of five candidates and are trying to solidify your position or you have the most realistic chance of going forward in the general, seeing how this polling shakes out and seeing what the reaction is, is kind of useful in shaping your explanation for why you're not going to be for some of these things going forward. >> do you think you can create a new electorate? do you think you can turn out these new people? or if you're running the last race, then these things don't sell. i want to sneak this in. it is cory booker who has said we should have a license to have a gun. interesting low that is the one proposal that tests quite well

with the trump base. 75% of independents, 72% of white noncollege voters in the country say you should have a license. i'm not saying it's going to happen. there's a republican senate that wouldn't even consider it but it is interesting among some of the proposals that some have said are pulling the party too far to the left, that one tests pretty well. >> people have applied for a fishing license or hunting license. >> there we go. before we go to break, eleanor holmes norton with an important piece of history. >> if we had a time machine and you were able to tell your great grandfather, a runaway slave, that his great granddaughter is a representative of district of columbia. >> i wish. will happeour life wrinkles just won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week

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