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balkissoon. all of us here in the situation room, all of us at cnn, all of our viewers are sending our warmest congratulations to this new family. look how adorable and cute he is. erin barnett outfront starts next. firing back as the president digs in defending the indefensible. the former vice president unveiling his health care plan. is obama 2.0 anything like medicare for all? and the president moves to stop nearly every american from seeking asylum. what's going to happen? outfront tonight, the breaking news, taking on trump. the four congress women who were the targets of trump's racist rant stepped before cameras to respond to the president.
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>> we are grateful for your solidarity, your encouragement and your support in the face of the most recent zeen phobic, bigoted remarks from the occupant of our white house. the recent words and tweets are a continuation of his play book. >> weak minds and leaders challenge loyalty to our country in order to avoid challenging and debating the policy. >> this is the agenda of white nationalists. and now it's reached the white house garden. >> this after the president of the united states today not only defended, but escalated his racist attacks against the four congress women you just heard. >> these are people that hate our country. they hate our country. they hate it i think with a passion. these are people that in my
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opinion hate our country. all i'm saying that if they're not happy here, they can leave. >> of course, this country is their country, too. they are in congress to represent their voters and to uphold the united states constitution. trump says the four women are not from america. his tweet reading so interesting to see progressive democrat congress women who originalally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe. alexandria ocasio-cortez born in the same city as trump, new york. congresswoman ilhan omar came to the united states with her father 28 years ago and has been a u.s. citizen since she was a teenager. it seems clear that trump believes brown and black people
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include the man who founded the alt right movement, richard spencer who tweeted the comments helped him win back a sizable portion of the alt right. republicans have been slow to condemn it. it took 15 hours for a single republican to condemn him. as of tonight about a dozen republican lawmakers have spoken out. some responses, though, are sort of shocking, to be honest. you know, they didn't play dumb, i guess. >> you saw the president's tweets this weekend. >> i was out of town. >> i guess they did. at least right they didn't say that that tweet saying that the brown and black women weren't from america was up for interpretation. >> what did you think of the president saying that these congress women should go back to their country?
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>> i didn't think that he said that. >> reporter: he said they should go home. >> that's the way you interpret the tweet. >> it's not the way he interpreted the tweet. it's what i read you the tweet said. originally came from countries who are a deplete and total catastrophe. it's a racist attack and nothing from republican leadership. kevin mckarkty said it is about the democratic party and the office of mitch mcconnell saying if he issues a statement on this we will be sure to forward it. we will await that. mitch mcconnell did call the president out for that tape, remember the one, grab them by the you know what but has turned a blind eye and refusing to condemn the president for referring to african countries as blank hole countries. >> is it a racist statement?
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>> i couldn't disagree more with what he had to say. >> do you think it is a racist statement? >> i don't agree with what he had to say. >> at this point, there should be no disagreement among americans wherever you stand on the political spectrum. americans should know it is unamerican to fuel and endorse racis racism. the president is upping the ante. he keeps saying you can leave. he is not backing down. >> reporter: not only is he not backing down, he is escalating the attacks saying the four congress women hate america and they should leave the country. he is widening his attacks to include the democratic house speaker nancy pelosi who said the president wants to make america white again. he said it would be a racist statement if that is something that pelosi has said even though he told reporters he did not think pelosi was racist.
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the president came ready to defend his tweets because as he spoke at the vaechbt that was focussed on something separately, he had two pieces of paper that had essentially bullet points of what he argued with his classic sharpy that he likes to use with edits he made. this comes as the president is doubling down as his own aides are struggling to defend the president's remarks with some outright refusing to acknowledge them. with others pointing to a naturalization ceremony that the vice president recently attended which the president did not. to his treasury secretary. the only cabinet member to weigh in on this so far. we should note that behind the scenes, very few white house officials are defending the president's comments. >> i should hope so. thank you very much. let's go to democratic
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congressman andre carson. good to have you with us. i'm sorry it's to talk about something like this. i want to give you a chance to respond to the president tonight. >> i think his comments are consistent with what he has done. he obviously has a problem with strong women. he has a problem with diversity in this country. that's evidenced by his repeated comments against this country. he is speaking to his base. these comments are tying right along the side of the announcement about the i.c.e. raid. i think it is strategic. >> to that effect, i want to play an exchange the president had with a reporter about this earlier today. here he is. >> does it concern you that many people saw that tweet as racist and that white nationalist groups are finding common cause with you on that point? >> it doesn't concern me,
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because many people agree with me. >> i mean, of course, what he wrote was racist. congressman, did he do that because he's a racist or did he do it because he is a racist and because he thought it would help him politically? >> listen, i don't know his heart, but i can tell you this. it's walking like a duck and quacking like a duck. looks like a duck to me. so the fact that white supremacists are reaffirming his stateme statements, he is speaking to that particular segment of our society. and secondly, he is throwing a hail mary hoping that he can reassure his base, the base that -- the same base into this mythical place that never existed in our country. so his remarks coming from the highest office in the land. they're destructive. they're hurtful and they're
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anti-american. >> why do you think republican leadership has so far failed to condemn the president publically? >> i have friendships with many republicans and quietly and privately. they're embarrassed. i can't speak to leadership strategy on this, but i'm disappointed. if they're truly concerned blt preservation of our republic and democracy they should condemn the president's remarks so they can move forward on important legislation like building our infrastructure. >> do you think the former president at any point, is it time for him to speak out? president obama? >> i think president obama has been very bold. i think we can make a mistake in putting too much on barack obama. we have a responsibility as legislators, as political leaders, as activists, as concerned citizens to speak up and condemn the president and to do even more to make sure he is not reelected in 2020.
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>> so the republican senator tim scott, the only black g.o.p. statement said instead of sharing how the democratic party's pro left policies and hateful language some have used are wrong for the future of our nation. he is calling outpresident, but he's also calling out democrats for saying some pretty hateful and awful things. is everybody guilty here? >> tim is a friend of mine. i have great respect to tim. kudos to tim for being gold and calling outpresident. i think both sides have made provocative statements. i think those provocative statements could never outweigh the very hurtful, the very toxic and destructive statements that the president of the united states keeps making. >> i want to ask you one more question. when mark short was on this
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network today, the vice president's chief of staff, he said he did not think the president's tweet was racist. here is his back and forth with a reporter today. >> how is it not racist to tell women of color to go back to their country when most of them were born here anyway and are all u.s. citizens? >> he has an asian woman of color in his cabinet. this is not a universal statement that he is making. he is making it about the very specific individual member of congress that i think said she is not-- >> he is referencing elaine chou as proof that the president is not racist against women. your response. >> i think she has served in previous administrations so she can speak for herself. the focus is on president trump and his comments that are destructive, that are racist,
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hateful and in many ways islam phobic. i think the focus should be on president trump. president trump has shown repeatedly that he cannot be trusted. he has shown that he is calculating in appealing to his base, but those miscalculations will prove to have been ineffective in 2020. that's my hope. >> i appreciate your time. thanks tonight. >> thank you. next, one republican senator justifying trump's racist attack, insisting you can't change a 73-year-old man. joe biden pushing back against his medicare for all happy rivals. is his obamacare plus plan going to work? an historic case pitting one company against -- are they about to pay tens of billions for opioids.
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a canadian is a canadian is a canadian and the diversity of our country is actually one of our greatest strengths. outfront now white house correspondent for american urban radio networks. you have covered politics for many years. did you ever think you would see a president speak like president trump just has? >> not out loud. this is a water shed moment for the history of the country and it should be. this was no dog whistle. this was the expression of a rabid dog expressed as racism. the rabid dog of american racism unambiguous expressed by the president of the united states in a way that no other president has. and it's time that the republican party and the party of lincoln, does the republican party want to be defined as a racist party? that is really the big question here and a big question for the
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press, as well. the press has got to make this a continuing story in which we go to all members of congress who are republicans and try to get them on the record about what they really think about this. and let's really stay with this story. >> so, april, let me just ask you because obviously there has been a deafening silence. there are some who have spoken up and done so firmly. but many others have not. president trump, of course, april, though, knew when he tweeted that that they were american citizens. he did it anyway. he did it knowing it wasn't true. he did it deliberately. what is his strategy? >> erin, you know his strategy. we all know his strategy. this is an election season. he wants to bring that core, that core group that believes these crazy things. and i'm going to go back to
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something that happened last year that really rowelled people up. i'm going to take my time with this. january 2018, i asked the president of the united states, mr. president, are you a racist, in the roosevelt room. and i received a lot of hate, calls that i'm a race baiter from his reporters and conservative media went in on me. the reason i asked is because the laundry list was long. the laundry list included charlottesville, the exonerated five, his housing practices, s-hole nations. the list goes on. then let's talk about how he has attacked minority women. let's start with congresswoman m maxine waters. let's bring in a royal.
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let's talk about minority female reporters. our own abby philip and april ryan, myself. this is not a dog whistle issue. this is a blaring bull horn issue. i'm going to go back to something my cnn colleague and former florida gubernatorial candidate said. mr. president, i'm not saying you are a racist, but the racists think you are a racist. but if the president and his followers are concerned about the words racist and linking that to the president, he needs to check his tweets. he needs to check his words. and at this moment, i'm going to say, mr. president, if you don't want us asking the questions or saying you are a racist, stop acting like a racist. >> you said when racists think you are a racist, clearly they do. carl, from your perspective,
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republican john cornen said i don't think you're going to change someone at this point in his life. saying i don't like it, but you're not going to change anybody. are you worried that that is too much of the attitude on the republican side? >> i think the attitude of the republican side so far in this presidency has been craven in terms of challenging president trump on the most outrageous of his statements and actions, his contempt for the law in many cases, his contempt for american traditions in terms of who we are as a people fighting racism, trying to move forward and bring the country together. he has never tried to do that. look, he is known to those who have been with him for a long time who know him the longest, he is known as a hater. you can read the biographies of him. you can go back to people who have gone to school with him,
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who have worked for him and hate is a piston of this presidency. we need to focus our reporting in a very calm way on biography and on this whole question of race in this election as expressed today in this moment by the president of the united states in a way that we have never heard before. it needs to be the central question put forward by the press. >> i am curious, though, whether this is, you know, april, in your judgment driven -- in the president more by race or more by gender. we're talking about four black and brown women. >> i know. well, black women to him don't rank. he wants to send brown people back across the border. so race and gender are for this president conjoined twins.
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but you know i really am hopeful. there is something new on the horizon next week that i'm hopeful about that maybe the president can come to grips and start talking about why he says this and explain himself. i want to hear where this is coming from. the naacp has their national convention next week. they have offered him a prime opportunity on the 24th of july to talk about black and brown america. i'm going to be the moderator of the presidential forum. i want to ask him about this and other things because this is important as we are talking about the fabric of america, not just one part of america. we're talking about women who made -- we're talking about people. this is humanity. this is not politics. >> it will be an opportunity to drown out bob mueller in part which he wants to do on that
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day. certainly something like this would get some notice. thank you both so very much. joe biden already having to defend his new health care plan that pits him against his more progressive rivals. >> i understand the appeal of medicare for all. folks supporting it should be clear that it means getting rid of obamacare. and i'm not for that. trump had tanks at his parade. the french just one upped him. ♪ applebee's all you can eat is back. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go.
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joe biden taking a stand against medicare for all which his top 2020 rivals support. instead, he is betting on obamacare. >> i believe we have to protect and build on obamacare. i understand the appeal of medicare for all, but folks supporting it should be clear that it means getting rid of obamacare. and i'm not for that. i'm surprised that so many democrats are running on getting rid of it. >> jeff zeleny is outfront. joe biden says protect and build
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on obamacare which of course has taken a huge hit when president trump took away mandating. costs surged. how does biden plan on doing this? >> what he is doing here politically speaking, he is essentially throwing down the gauntlet against kamala harris and bernie sanders. he is proposing an expansion of obamacare. let's take a look hat a couple key provisions. he would launch a government-run public auction. it would essentially extend tax credits to help americans buy lower priced insurance. this was discussed early on when the bill was being debated. it would allow medicare to negotiate drug prices and comes with an estimated price tag of $750 billion over a decade. you will remember when the house and senate were debating this, this was one of the ideas that many people in the house of
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representatives, what the public option wanted to do. it wouldn't have passed muster in the senate. it looked like a liberal program. the question here is this. would it bring the prices down enough for people? what the former vice president is betting on, is banking on, is the fact that people do not want to get rid of their private health insurance. bernie sanders, snenator warren senator harris are putting in a box and going against the liberal wing of the party. this is the most distinction he has made yet. >> it's a distinction that can make a world of difference. senior adviser to the biden campaign, you know this from every angle. as a general idea, a lot of people like the idea of medicare for all. that's in part because it sort of rings like it's free. medicare for all.
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it is not free. it hassane estimated price tag of $3 trillion a year. it could almost certainly mean pay roll tax increases. it is not free but sounds that way to a lot of people. how can you explain that to democratic-based voters? >> so thanks for having me tonight. i think it's important to note that health care is really so important to the american experiment, that is why people have such a visceral reaction when we have a conversation about health care. in the 2018 election was decided on this point about health care. republicans are trying to take away health care and democrats were running on suring up and protecting obamacare. so today vice president biden released his plan for his biden health care plan.
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as jeff said, we are drawing a line in the sand here in that we believe health care is a right. we believe health care is a right for a every american. we believe folks have to be covered. and the way that vice president biden is going to get there is through this public option, this expansion of medicare and also make sure that folks who are eligible for medicaid but live in states where governors have failed to act, that those individuals can opt into the new plan into health care. >> i get it. i'm trying to understand. are you trying to explain that medicare for all is not free? you're trying to come up with another option. >> it's not for me to explain anything to the voters. if the sanders campaign or other campaigns would like to propose a medicare for all plan want to be clear about what it is that they believe, i think it's
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important that they do that. >> hold on. i get what you're saying. the reason i'm pushing so hard on this is that it is popular. look at democratic' based voters. our latest poll shows more democratic voters trust bernie sanders on health care. if you combine him with warren, you are well north of 40%. that's the medicare for all crowd. so how do you tell those voters medicare for all doesn't add up? >> i want to take you back to 2018. in 2018, i know republican strategists would have liked for folks at home to believe that democrats across the country were running on open borders and medicare for all. we were running on putting a check on donald trump. folks were running on protecting obamacare. and then after we protected obamacare, building on that success. what we are explaining to voters and saying this week, vice president is out there right now
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is that we have to protect obamacare. obamacare is under assault right now from this very administration. the trump administration is in court arguing to take health care away from millions of americans. while we are defending it, we have to put plans to build on the enormous success that is obamacare. that is what the plan that vice president biden has put forth. there are folks that will argue otherwise and folks want to say we go forward. i ask to explain to people what is going to happen to them? it's not enough to say we believe in universal health care. we have to talk about what that specific plan for health care means. i encourage other campaigns to do the same. >> let me ask you because medicare for all, you used to and in your prior role working with bernie sanders, you came to the conclusion that you can have obamacare, add to it and get medicare for all. now you are saying that it is different. joe biden is saying he can't have medicare for all because
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medicare would replace obamacare. here you are back in 2016. i want to play it because i want to give you a chance to explain how you came to change your mind. here you are. >> thinking big is how we got the affordable health care act. and thinking big is how we will build on that. when we talk about a medicare for all single payer system, we're not talking about doing away with obamacare. we are talking about building on its enormous success. >> so now joe biden said it would get rid of obamacare. >> i unequivocally reject what is being set up here. let me be really clear for a second. in 2016 i served as press secretary for senator sanders. i'm proud of the work i have done on that campaign and the work i have gone on to do since. talking about universal health
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care has been a very popular point in the democratic party. it has been popular in places across the country. frankly, it's popular with voters and independents. we have to talk about specific plans. in 2016, we were having these conversations. what senator sanders has put on the table is not an expansion of obamacare. it is not. it does away with private insurance and what is kraenl on the table in his medicare for all plan says that obamacare isn't enough. we have to go on and do something else. this is not an expansion. if the sanders' campaign would like to say it is an expansion i hope you welcome them to your program to have that conversation. for anyone to suggest that because i work for vice president biden now i feel differently. that is not true. i welcome the conversation. >> i'm not suggesting you feel differently. let me say why i played that.
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>> i feel some type of way, erin. >> i didn't say it to do a gotcha. you are a thoughtful, smart person. you have changed your mind. i want to give you a chance to explain to people why. >> because, erin, i believe in building on the enormous success of obamacare. the plan that is currently on the table being discussed by a number of folks when they talk about medicare for all does not do that. that is the difference. so if the sanders' campaign or anyone else would like to assert otherwise, i welcome the conversation. our campaign obviously welcomes the debate because health care is so important to millions of people across america. i want to be very clear that there are values and things that anchor me. i know that there are a lot of people on social media that get into whauts going on at democratic primaries. i'm proud to be on a campaign that cares about millions of americans that is putting forth
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ideas and not about attacking other democrats, that understands that the goal is to get donald trump out of the white house, to put forth a plan that takes us further and doesn't take us back. if other democrats want to have conversations about oerlt things, they can do what they want. we'll see you at the debate. >> i think the fact that you have the history is why people should listen to you and your evolution and why you think what you think because it is important and the issue does matter to you and that's why it should matter to a lot of people so they can understand it and make a smart and inform decision on which person to back. >> thank you so much. in a dramatic move, the trump administration making it harder for people to seek asylum in the united states. so will it stop hundreds of thousands of migrants? one of the world's largest drug makers being sued in the alleged role in the opioid crisis. the case could cost johnson & johnson tens of billions of dollars. the man leading the charge is outfront. 've got allstate.
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tonight trump moving to block hundreds of thousands of people from seeking asylum. the new rule takes effect tomorrow t. bans anyone from claiming asylum in the united states if they pass through another country to get here which means only mexicans can apply for asylum coming from mexi mexico. very few do. the people who do are from
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places like guatemala, honduras. that apparently ends tomorrow. >> reporter: in march, she and her husband left cuba with their son to seek asylum in the united states. they flew to nicaragua on a visa and travelled through central america and mexico to reach this shelter in mexico. >> when they arrived here in mid may the family had no idea there would be so many people here seeking asylum and that there would be so many obstacles to get across into the united states. she said she is trying to reunite with her son who lives in florida. >> reporter: their fourth-month long journey has them at america's door step. they can see downtown el paso from inside the shelter. taking the last few steps just became even tougher. the trump administration has put a new rule in place that bars
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migrants traveling through mexico from claiming asylum at the u.s. southern border. immigration officials say it will limit the ability of central americans, cubans and migrants from places other than mexico to seek asylum at ports of entry. right now more than a dozen shelters are filled with migrants waiting to seek asylum. >> the president of the united states should be doing what he is in the immigration space and that is on focussing on trying to fix an obviously broken system getting almost no help from congress. >> reporter: as they wait he says his family is running out of options. >> he says where they come from, cuba, they are scared of the government. here they are scared of everything that's around them. >> reporter: immigrant's rights advocates say asylum laws are
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one of the cornerstones of immigration policy. >> some of these people are holding their country flags and waving their country's flags and talking about the fear they have of being in the country of the flag they were waving freely. >> reporter: migrants waving the flag are a rare sight on the southern border. there is a sign in mexico that every migrant watches closely. when they arrive at the border, migrants register for their number in line to cross into the united states. more than 100,000 people have had their number called and each day a few more are added to the tally. nearly 18,000 are waiting. that's almost 6,000 people left in limbo. the real life implications of all of this will remain to be seen. we'll see how migrants are waiting in limbo will react to this. legal challenge is coming.
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the american civil liberties union says they will mount a legal challenge to the new rule. >> thank you very much. next, an historic case against once of the biggest drug makers in the united states. oklahoma suing johnson & johnson over opioids. this case could be one of the biggest the country has seen. plus how the french one upped president trump with a flying, gun toting man. prevagen is the number one pharmacist recommended memory support brand.
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new tonight paying for allegedly pimping opioid. they are wondering if johnson & johnson should pay billions of dollars. this could be the single biggest case in the opioid crisis and how the entire country has the blame. out front, michael hunter of oklahoma and attorney general, i appreciate your time. we've been watching this case through the recent weeks and i'm so happy to have you on the program. how confident are you you are going to win? >> very confident, of course,
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it's with a judge now but we feel good about the case that we have presented to him. we've demonstrated that the defendant, johnson & johnson has been the prime provider of the raw ingredient for opioids for the rest of the opioid manufacturing industry almost 60% for the last couple decades, we've demonstrated their misrepresentation of the addictive qualities of the products and we, you know, we did the job we felt like we needed to do to provide the judge the evidence and the testimony he needed to make a good decision. >> now, you know, you're mentioning here that you think you have proof that johnson & johnson knew that what they were doing was addictive. they knew people were dying and played down the risks aggressively. what do you think was the slam dunk to prove that, that they knew and purposely buried it under the rug? >> well, the idea that you can
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just be completely deaf, dumb and blind with regard to the fact you increased supply by a factor of nine or ten and deaths are going up by a factor of ten to 15 and you're not going to do anything about it. you're not going to take any kind of cresponsibility as a corporate responsible citizen. they knew what was going on, they couldn't afford to quit doing it. >> you said nine to ten times, ten to 15 times people dying. they say don't you're just making them a quote scapegoat. what do you say to them? >> there is another term kingpin. when you division a multi-decade plan to move into the pain franchise to provide the raw product for the rest of the industry and you not only sell opioids, again, you provide the raw material for the rest of the industry, you help your partners in the ind ustry promote opioid,
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you tell doctors that hey, don't really worry about addiction. this stuff is something you need to provide your patients whenever they have the least amount of pain. so we have proved our case, i believe. it's up to the judge and i have to say this judge has done a remarkable job of being fair and handed in administering the trial. >> the testimony in this case is emotional. one person who testified was craig box, his son austin former linebacker for the oklahoma sooners died of an overdose. he was 22 years old. here is his father, craig. >> he graduated, he graduated from the university of oklahoma the saturday before he died on a thursday. we heard from so many parents across the [crying]
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that have lost children under similar circumstances. >> how do you think people at companies like johnson & johnson and the family, how do they know about things like that and look the other way? >> i don't know. it's a function more than anything else of profit over patience. i told the judge today, there is a one-word answer and that's greed. they were making hundreds of millions of dollars and they could not afford to quick making hundreds of millions of dollars. as far as i'm concerned, johnson & johnson was in this up to their neck. again, we're confident they have got responsibility here and we're going to hold them accountable and again, we feel really good about our case and the judge will do the right thing. >> thank you for your time. >> thanks, erin. >> next, jeannge jeanne moos on
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is jeanne moos. >> it's a bird, it's a plane. >> reporter: it's the fly board guy who stole the show at the parade in paris. >> faster than a speeding bullet. >> reporter: actually the fly board air's top speed is around 118 miles an hour, that's the inventor and entrepreneur operating the fly board. >> we have control. >> reporter: french president emanuel macron watched approvingly as fans compared it to everything from marty mcfly back to the future hoover board to that flying villain, the green goblin. >> hello, my dear. >> reporter: making the green goblin a reality is enough to make a certain someone green with envy. president trump loves toys. at monday's made in america event, he boarded a boat and got behind the wheel of a fad missile defense vehicle.
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remember what happened last time he watched a french parade? he liked it so much he said i'll have what they are having and on the fourth of july, we hit a bevy of fly byes. the french have one upped everyone. maybe by next fourth of july, we'll see the commander in chief commanding his own fly board. frankie's next stunt will be to fly across the english channel since the turbine powered engines allow for at least ten minutes flying time. that will require mid flight refueling. fly board development got a grant from the french military though some were skeptical of the usefulness and survivability. the parade featured horses to robots and anti drone guns that could probably the take the fly out of a fly board, as well. that rifle was reported to be unloaded or fake and even the french haven't figured out how
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to kiss through a helmet. jeanne moos, cnn. >> would be like a rocket ship. >> reporter: new york. >> thank you so much for joining us. have a good night. see you tomorrow. anderson starts now. good evening. this would ordinarily be the place to say the president of the united states doubled down or tripled down today on his remarks for the weekend tweeting young white congresswomen should go back to their home countries and never mind three of the four are native born americans and would be the place to play you their reactions to condemn their remarks and the strategy for appealing to the base and yeah, we will get to all of that tonight. right before congresswoman had to say and might be they are also things we talk about so we don't have to bring up something else. namely what drives the president to say what he says is not just about p
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