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omar. and there the president stood for 13 seconds, soaking it all in, waiting for the chanting to grow and die down. yesterday, while falsely claiming that he tried to stop it, he also said he disagreed with the crowd. well, less than 24 hours later, starting with a string of tweets and two television appearances, he renewed his attacks on the women. no more talks about regrets. in fact he went onto level a series of false allegations about two of the women which were quickly debunked. a depressing end to the week. katelyn collins joins us from the white house. it's hard not to get whiplash following the president's back and forth on this. walking back his walkback yesterday, and lara trump lying, saying it was a couple people chanting, when clearly it was more than a couple people chanting. >> that's not true. we were there. it was so loud that the
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president stopped speaking for those 13 seconds to let them continue on in this arena that seats about 18,000 people or so. this is the president's art of the deal. he'll say something controversial, it will put his republican allies in a bind and you'll see the president walk it back just enough like he did yesterday when he said he didn't agree with the chant and that reporters should go to north carolina and ask their people while they were chanting it even though he didn't mention the fact about his tweets on sunday. and today he strikes a much more defiant tone, defending those supporters, that they're patriots and focusing on these negative attacks on these women instead of that chant that started at his rally. >> and the other thing that lara trump said, and the other thing that the president said which you just mentioned about you should go there and ask them why they were chanting it. they were chanting it because he brought up this whole idea of her going back as if she, you know -- as if all of these people are not american and lara
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trump then also before the president went on whipped up the crowd, you know, encouraging people to say, if they don't like america, what can they do, and everyone said leave. they were chanting it because he whipped it up. >> i've been dozens to trump rallies. they've never shouted anything like that even though these chants are popular at these rallies. and that's what happens to the people around the president. they'll defend something he's saying when it comes to the usa, like lara trump did. and then when he tries to back off of it, they say it was loud and he couldn't hear or it was only a few people when that's not the case. it was a big arena. it was a lot of people chanting it and it was loud. >> yeah, and he encouraged it. katel kaitlan collins, thank you very much. some of the bigger questions, include whether democrats have a strategy for opposing this kind of racist behavior, joining us, political
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consultant, cnn political commentator and a recent author, also with us democratic strategist former senior clinton campaign spokesperson. amanda, you talk about gaslighting in your book. this type of strategy, if that's what this is, a strategy, it worked for the president in 2016. do you think it's going to work for him again in 2020? >> listen, he's been playing in the pandora's box of racism since he started with the central park five. but i think this time it's coming different t. box is wide open. if you look at what happened in charlottesville, do i think president trump wanted heather heyer to be killed, no, but could he stop it, no, it's out
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there. and so he can't stop it and he won't stop it because in the end he thinks that it helps him. and i don't know where this is going to go. he's going to keep cultivating this, denying responsibility, but he's diving in. this is where the gaslighting happens. he says other people are saying this. other people were talking about obama's birtherism, the central five, but he's diving right into it and i don't know where it's going to go. >> stuart, he's tapping into something very dangerous that we have seen time and time again throughout american history. >> yeah, i disagree that it's a strategy. i think trump is a racist, so he says racist things. i really don't think it's very complicated. and the question for the republican party is, are you going to tolerate this. it's really a moral test that trump keeps putting out there and the republican party keeps failing. i don't think it's smart politics and i think it's horrible for the country. >> karen, how do democrats respond to all of this?
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dana bash reported at a meeting where they reviewed internal polling showing that the most forceful message against the president is making the argument that he's ineffective on issues like infrastructure and jobs, that was before this chant. >> right. that's the thing, right? even if democrats were going to back off on it, then you had this chanting happen and then today as the president was leaving for new jersey for the weekend, he went to the microphones and pulled on that thread. i think there's a couple of things, anderson, i think democrats ideally should step back and let it reveal the fact that if this is what the president thinks he should be focused on rather than infrastructure, whatever happened to that, creating jobs, health care, and i think democrats need to do more to highlight the fact that it is t the republicans in the senate, the president who are blocking things moving forward. unfortunately there's the other side of this which is you can't
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let this talk go unsaid. to someone like me as a child was told go back to africa, and i had no idea what people were talking about. we are a diverse country. we are part of the american stories. i think there's responsibility for democrats to call it out but i think they have to keep that dual focus of trying to continue to get the work done as pelosi was trying to do with this debt ceiling conversation. >> even when the president was sort of pretending to express some, a little bit of regret, he called it quite a chant and it was loud which goes against what lara trump was saying which it was just a couple people and he also lies about how he tried to stop it, i just -- it's amazing to me that -- all of his lies, it's been this way from the beginning, but his lies are dependent -- are sort of predicated on the notion that we're all idiots, we can't see
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video of what he's doing, or that his supporters are looking for any reason to forgive him and so they can -- yesterday, they were all out saying he's repudiated it. now today, you know, they're kind of quiet. >> this is essential to his gaslighting that he continues to draw the country into, it's called advance and deny. he advances these narratives but denies responsibility. the fact that the campaign went out there at this message of love it or leave it, which they thought was cute, somehow that was defensible. that's not what the audience heard. the audience heard send her back. as if there's some kind of difference there. probably in a few weeks, donald trump is going to be out there saying, send her back right there with them. because he's baiting the audience to get into this. he wants us all to debate racism and i agree with karen that the democrats can't get drawn into this too much. they have to acknowledge it and i don't see any reason why the
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2020 election should not be a referendum on donald trump's character. a democratic congresswoman was on the air, he wanted barack obama to do a speech on race. i think that's interesting, but the democratic candidate who wins this election should be the one who gives this speech and show us a higher, better way that uplifts people. because donald trump wants nothing more for this to be a negative, negative election that takes us down to the barrel where we were in 2016 and someone has to lift us out of it. >> stuart, when the next crowd, next trump rally start chanting "send her back," what do you think trump does? >> i think amanda is exactly right. he's going to enjoy it and do it. trump isn't going to change. and expecting trump to change is going to be a failure. the question is, what is the republican party doing to do? i mean, this has been the great failure of the modern republican
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parties with african-american voters. in '56, eisenhower got a lower percentage and it's not come back. and that's a great stain on the republican party and it's only getting worse now. this is a moment when the party has to decide -- >> hasn't that already been decided? you know -- >> it would seem. >> i think there's a question, would mark koe rubio go to another rally like he did when he kicked off the president's re-election. what republicans are going to sit on stage? i think some republicans in the senate have probably made the calculation that, listen, we can't stop trump from being a bad character, but we can stop bad policy. if we have to fight on policy, we'll go there. we can't do much else. >> but the republicans have not been willing to stand up to him to make good policy. what we see is things kind of stalling.
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and i think that -- long term, this is a disaster for the republican party. i remember -- i'm old enough to remember, you know, the realignment that karl rove was trying and george w. bush was trying to court latinos and he got a little bit of the african-american vote. and i think part of the challenge here, anderson, is, you know, the diversity of this country is here. this is the reality. and trump is trying to continue to coalesce around the demographics of the recent past and democrats are trying to focus on the future. >> yeah. >> and it will be a matter of turnout in 2020. >> thank you very much. how two trump voters in 2016 see things and now see things differently from one another this time around. ♪ ♪ award winning interface.
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now he regrets it. what are you thinking for to 2020? do you plan to support president trump again? >> absolutely not. >> and what we've seen this past week is just another example of that. >> that tweet that everybody is talking about, i would not define that as a racist tweet, but it is a hatred tweet for sure. >> reporter: his co-worker at this plumbing company also voted for trump in 2016. and she sees it differently. >> if you don't like this country, get out. leave. that's all he said. he didn't use any names. they stood up. that's all they did. they made themselves look like idiots. >> reporter: unlike her co-worker, dave, she has no regrets for voting for trump. >> he takes no crap from anybody. he's kept up his promises. >> give me one. >> taxes.
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he's working on the border. we're back in charge again. he is working with north korea like no other president has in the world before. >> reporter: dave really regrets his vote. >> i didn't know he was going to act this way, so i am -- i'm embarrassed by him. >> reporter: what don't you like about the president? >> he doesn't act like a president should. he, in a way, spreads hatred. it's like a little kid having a temper tantrum, however he says it, it comes across, to me it's childish. >> reporter: he says trump should stop taking credit for things like the economy. you don't think he's been good for business? >> i can't say he's the reason everything is booming at this time. i didn't happen as soon as he took office. >> kari sees it differently. >> i have thought this country needs to be run like a business.
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it was ran into the ground for eight years and it's time to bring it back. and he's done it. >> reporter: she also thinks trump is right to build a wall, dave says this country needs immigrants. >> dairy products would be more expensive, vegetables that are grown around here, everything would be much more expensive if it wasn't for the immigrants. >> reporter: but he ran on that pretty much when you voted for him in 2016, right? >> once again, i thought he was a better option than hillary. >> reporter: so it wasn't necessarily a vote for trump in 2016, it was a vote against hillary clinton. >> exactly. >> reporter: is there anything that trump can do that can change your mind or you're dug in. >> i'm dug in. i'm behind him 100%. >> reporter: you're on the trump train. >> i'm in the front car with him, pulling the whistle. >> and she is going to be pulling that whistle. she's active on facebook. she likes and follows many, in
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fact, dozens of pro-trump groups. >> the voter you talked with who won't vote for president trump again, you also talked to him about other voters who feel the same way. what did he say about that? >> reporter: well, he says that he himself, he's embarrassed and he feels regret and he thinks others feel that way too. he says he knows other trump voters who won't talk to him about their plans for to 2020. we spoke to another republican trump voter not voting for president trump again. we spoke to him by phone. and he says he thinks people are embarrassed. and he says he thinks they feel some guilt for putting president donald trump in office, anderson. >> we thank both of those folks for expressing their opinions to us. she may be the most closely watched politician in
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more now on the president's attacks on four congresswomen including alexandria ocasio-cortez. after days of the attacks by the president. alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeted she won't go back, but forward. that's not her only battle. five republicans have jumped into the race to unseat her for 2020. she'll meet with nancy pelosi. when i spoke with her for 60 minutes in january, we saw the roots of a political style that's on display today, bold, unapologetic and controversial even then. >> there are people who say you don't understand how the game is played. do you? >> i think it's really great for people to keep thinking that. >> you want folks to underestimate you. >> absolutely. that's how i won my primary. >> winning that primary shocked the democratic establishment. and in november, alexandria ocasio-cortez became the youngest woman ever elected to
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congress. >> we have made history tonight. >> just a few days later, as soon as she got to washington, she paid a visit to climate change activists who were occupying her party leader nancy pelosi's office. she was the only newly elected member of congress who decided to drop in on the sit in. she called on pelosi to create a commit on climate change. nancy pelosi is powerful. >> she absolutely is. and -- >> and you're occupying her office. >> i was so nervous. but i kept coming back to the idea that what they're fighting for wasn't wrong. and i had sat down with leader pelosi beforehand and she told me her story. she came from activism and i knew she would absolutely understand how advocacy can
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change the needle on important issues. >> she and her allies managed to get more than 40 members of congress to support the climate committee. house speaker nancy pelosi agreed to create it, but it's not nearly what she had in mind. pelosi granted the committee limited powers and did not ban members who take money from the fossil fuels industry. it was an early lesson in congressional politics and another one came when she defied pelosi and voted against the speaker's new house rules, but was not joined by many other progressive democrats. alexandria ocasio-cortez told us she's determined to keep fighting for what's being called a green new deal. an ambitious proposal that would convert the entire u.s. economy to renewable sources of energy
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in 12 years. >> no use of fossil fuels in 12 years. >> that is the goal. that's ambitious. >> are you talking about everybody driving an electric car. >> it's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now. what is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent possible. >> this would require raising taxes. >> there's an element, yeah, whe people are going to have to start paying their fair share on taxes. you look at our taxes back in the '60s, your tax rate, let's say, from zero to $75,000 may be 10% or 15%, et cetera but once you get to the tippy top, on your 10 millionth dollars, sometimes you see tax rates as
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high as 60, 70%. it means that as you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more. >> what you are talking about just big picture is a radical agenda compared to the way politics is done right now. >> well, i think that it only has ever been radicals that have changed this country. a abraham lincoln made the radical decision to sign the emancipation proclamation. >> do you call yourself a radical? >> yeah, if that's what radical means, call me a radical. >> she doesn't seem to be viewed by a radical by her constituents in new york 14, the diverse district that includes the bronx. alexandria ocasio-cortez was born in the bronx. her parents had met in puerto rico. her father owned a small
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architectle business, her mother cleaned houses. by the time she was ready for preschool, her parents made a down payment on a small house. it was a world away from her extended family still living in the bronx. >> what was it that brought your parents here? >> schools. my mom wanted to make sure that i had a solid chance and a solid education. >> did you feel like you were living in two different worlds, because you were spending a lot of time in the bronx with your family and here. >> and growing up that way and with my cousins who were all my age too feeling like we all had different opportunities depending on where we were physically located. >> she did well in school and with the help of scholarships and financial aid, attended boston university. but in her sophomore year, her father died of cancer. >> we were working on the
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classic american dream and overnight it was all taken away. my mom was back to cleaning homes and driving school buses to keep a roof over our heads. >> she moved back to the bronx after graduating college and spent the next few years working as a community organizer and advocate for children's literacy. in may of 2017, the one bedroom apartment became her campaign headquarters as she launched a seemingly improbable run for congress. she was working as a waitress and bartender at the time. like many members of her generation, she said she had student loans to pay and no health insurance. >> i really understood the frustration that working people had across the political spectrum. when anybody is saying the economy is going great, we are at record levels, there's a frustration that says, well, the economy is good for who? >> unemployment is at record
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lows. >> i don't think that that tells the whole story when you can't provide for your kids working two full-time jobs when you can't have health care. that's not dig fied. >> a group of bernie sanders supporters who call themselves justice democrats, encouraged alexandria ocasio-cortez to run for office and gave her training and support. she built a grassroots coalition that took on the democratic machine by going door to do arguing that she could represent the district better than a ten-term incumbent who spent most of his time in washington. >> please welcome alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> her victory made national news and she had a higher media profile than many veteran lawmakers. some saw her victory as a craving for change. nancy pelosi drew a more limited
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conclusion. >> they made a choice in one district. >> president trump rarely missed a chance to suggest that all democrats were socialists who would lead the country to ruin. >> venezuela. venezuela. how does that sound? you like venezuela? >> when people hear the word socialism, they think the soviet union, cuba, venezuela, is that what you have in mind? >> of course not. we have in mind -- my policy most closely reassemble what we see in the uk, in norway, in finland and sweden. >> how are you going to pay for all of this? >> no one asks how we paid for a $2 trillion tax cut. we only ask for how we pay for it on health care, housing and education. the same exact mechanisms for all of these ambitious policies. >> there are democrats who are worried about your affect on the
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party. chris coons said if the next two years is just a race to offer unrealistic proposals, it will be difficult for us to make a credible case. we should be allowed to governor again. >> what makes its unrealistic? we pay more per capita in health care and education for lower outcomes than many other nations. and so for me, what's unrealistic is what we're living in right now. >> since the election, some conservative media outlets have focused on alexandria ocasio-cortez with an intensity usual for a rookie member of congress. she's been accused of dishonest about the true cost of her proposals and the tax burden they would impose on the middle class. she's also been criticized for making factual mistakes. >> "the washington post" awarded you four pinocchios for
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misstating some statistics. >> if people want to blow up one figure here or there, i would argue they're missing the forest for the trees. there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely factually and is factually correct than about being morally right. >> being factually correct is important. >> it's absolutely important. whenever i make a mistake, i say this was clumsy, and then i restate what my point was. but it's not the same thing as the president lying about immigrants. it's not the same thing as all. >> we started the wall, anyway, and we're going to get that done. we're going to get it done. >> you don't talk about president trump very much. >> no. >> why? >> because i think he's a symptom of a problem. >> what do you mean? >> the president didn't invent
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racism, but he has certainly given a voice to it and expanded it and created a platform for those things. >> do you believe president trump is a racist? >> yeah, yeah. no question. >> how can you say that? >> when you look at the words that he uses, which are historic dog whistles of white supremacy, when you look at how he reacted to the charlottesville incident where neo gn-nazi sisneo-nazis woman, it's night and day. >> in response, the deputy press secretary told us congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez's sheer ignorance on the matter can't cover the fact that president trump supported and passed historic criminal justice reform and has reportedly condemned racism and bigot in all forms.
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when a conservative writer tweeted this photo of her saying, that jacket and coat don't look like a girl who struggles, she called him out for what she said was misogyny. >> would you be taking a creep shot of someone else's behind and sharing it around? why is there more comfort in doing that to me than there is in doing it to any other member of congress? >> eliminating the influence of corporate money in politics is another one of alexandria ocasio-cortez's signature issues. most of her campaign funds came from small donations of $200 or less. she did accept some money from labor unions, but she refuses to take any money from action committees. she's encouraged primary challenges of democrats who
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accept corporate money. >> these are politically dangerous tactics that you're using for that. >> yeah. >> do you believe it? >> it's absolutely risky. it requires risk to try something new. but also we know so much of what we've tried in the past haven't worked either. >> the count down is under way for washington for one of the most anticipated hearings in recent memory. robert mueller scheduled to testify next wednesday. obviously there's a lot at stake. we'll have more ahead. ♪ be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission
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they are perhaps the most highly anticipated congressional hearings in decades and they're happening next week. we're talking about robert mueller's testimony before both the house judiciary and intelligence committees. the committees have held mock committees. the hearings come months after mueller delivered his report on both russian interference in the 2016 election and possible obstruction of justice by president trump. we want to navigate what we can expect next week, joining me now, a mueller expert and author, as well as jeffrey
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toobin. how much can democrats realistically expect to get? if mueller is a reluctant witness and given constraints. >> they can expect to get something significant. the 448-page report was not read by millions upon millions of people. if they can get mueller simply to recount some of the episodes described in the report, especially the more egregious examples of obstruction of justice, the conversations between the president and don mcgahn, that will be significant and that would be dramatic and important. but if mueller simply says i dealt with that in the report, you can read it in the report, then it could be a really big bust for the democrats. a lot of it is up to mueller. >> devon nunes, the top republican on the intelligence committee told fox news he won't allow mueller to pontificate or embellish. do you think it's possible that he may just say, well, i
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addressed that in the report? >> yeah, i don't think pontificating or embellishing are words that anyone has ever used in talking about bob mueller before. i don't think that's going to be a problem. i do think that jeff is likely correct that mueller is not going to go beyond the four corners of his report but i think that actually that's the strength the democrats should be embracing, that the way to approach this is mueller has given you 448 pages of prepared testimony and your job is to figure out what parts of it you want to ask him to read aloud. point him to specific paragraphs, specific pages. most americans have not read this, so even just getting him to read this out loud would be of an incredible value to the american people. >> the judiciary committee has three hours with mueller. the intelligence committee has
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two hours. they all like to make statements, all these congress people, which eats up time. not a lot of time. hillary clinton was grilled on benghazi for how many hours? >> 11, i think. >> what's really i think a terrible mistake that's indicative of the ego mania epidemic in congress, when you look at the successful hearings in the past, the watergate hearings, the iran contra committee hearings, you had lawyers, professional nonpoliticians asking a series of questions that allowed someone to lead someone through a narrative. here we're going to have five minutes of democrats, five minutes of republicans, even if the politicians don't pontificate for their five minutes, how can you develop a narrative in five minutes, especially when it's going to be interrupted by an opposing narrative. there will be some interesting sound bite that is come out of
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it. the idea that this is going to be a transformative experience in public opinion i think is just extremely, extremely unlikely. >> do you see the democrats cooperating? they need to cooperate with each other. do they cooperate with mueller? if they push him into saying something he doesn't want to say, how would that go down? >> yeah, and i think that democrats should recognize that they're not going to be able to trick bob mueller into saying something that he doesn't intend to say. this is someone who's testified before congress 60 times before over many decades. and is -- you know, has probably answered more questions from congress than most members of congress have ever asked in a congressional hearing. and so he's going to be better at this than they are. he's a professional prosecutors. and unless you match him and work with him on his terms, you know, if they get all caught up
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in trying to trick him into saying, well, would have indicted the president absent the report, i think mueller is highly unlikely to go there and you're just -- as jeff says, going to keep scrambling and confusing people with the narrative you're trying to tell. >> that's the obvious questions that all of the democrats are going to want answered. if he didn't go by the guidelines of the legal counsel, would he have indicted, he probably wouldn't answer that. >> look, that is a legitimate question. >> i'm not saying -- >> and i don't know exactly what he will do. i thought that part of the report was very convoluted and confusing about whether we can exonerate him but we can't convict him. that being interesting exmarfro mueller, but what the democrats
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want to do is show all of the terrible things that donald trump did in office. and that's going to take asking mueller to recite in his own words what was in the report. if he was willing to do that, that will be enough for a successful hearing. that again is up to mueller. >> thanks very much. when we return, new signs of turmoil. another top official is out. what it could mean for the intense election season coming up. award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. the volvo xc90.
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♪ now that's a win-win. switch to geico. it's a win-win. things aren't settling down. the most powerful gun lobby in american another top staffer is out in the nra. jennifer baker. following a string of other high profile exits an alleged coup and accusations of financial misconduct. we have been following the turmoil closely. >> the gun rights group that helped propel trump to the white house. >> to get the endorsement believe me is fantastic honor. >> in turmoil. in april the nra sued the long time ad agency. the same agent say that created this iconic second amendment
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message. >> from my cold dead hands. >> the bitter split was broiling behind the scenes weeks later in indianapolis. >> great american patriots. three extraordinary champions for the second amendment. >> north the nra president was on his way out. a day earlier nra ceo told the board of directors north was trying to extort him. claiming he told him to step down at ceo. or face a smear campaign. north was ousted. >> we defend our flag. national anthem. and the heros they represent. >> north was one of the faces of the nra that was actually financed through mcqueen. the ad agency paid spokeswoman salary. placed ads during election cycles and produced nra tv.
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the embarrassing allegations north warned about emerged online. posted anonymously and verified by cnn. they painted a picture of financial mismanagement at the nra. at the helm and nort sounding the alarm. he makes $1.4 million from the nra. and $275,000 for the high end italian clothing. $240,000 for his travel to destinations including italy. and $14,000 for an apartment for a summer intern. the nra said they were legitimate business expenses. a letter questioned the nra spending habits and the $24 million in legal fees they shelled out over 13 months. the nra disputes that sum. all of this dysfunction delighting the nra critics. >> it's like watching a five alarm fire. but what's amazing is the nra itself lit the match. >> they are going to be hobbled and i think this is just going
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to play out day by day. week by week, month by month leading to 2020. and keep them on the sideline. >> they officially severed ties shutting down nra tv as a result. bringing ab end to to shows like this. putting k k k hoods on the train. >> was it because i see it. it was the white hoods. and the burning train tracks. okay, fair point. >> the nra dropped another bomb shell. accusing chief lobbyist working to over throw lappier. cox said a warm relationship with trump too. and the chief strategist behind the nra election effort. he agitated for more spending diggal. less for the red meat on nra tv.
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while they scramble for stability. >> you have that fire in your belly. >> democrats are ready for a fight. >> i'm the only guy. i have a d minus voting record from the nra. >> the nra holds congress hostage. >> the nra says it's happy to be under estimated. we are focussed on 2020. a spokesperson tells us. our members know what's as stake. from gun control to con fisation to rej strigistration. so they will be out in force. >> iran is causing more trouble tonight setting up a new somehow down with the west. we'll bring you up to speed in the aggression. and how the president is responding. with the sleep number 360 smart bed you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. so, can it help us fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses
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a vessel also seized. iran disputes that. british company says armed guard took control but let it go. the president's response earlier. >> this is only goes to show what i'm saying about iran. trouble. nothing but trouble. i was right about iran and let's see what happens. >> the news continues. let's turn it over to "cnn tonight." this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. so much for disavow. so much for the president's claims that he disagreed with the send her back chant. did anybody really believe he was unhappy? he wasn't. you saw hip standby and let it happen doing nothing to stop it. did anybody really believe he would take back the racist tweet that started it all? he won't. listen to what
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