>> the news continues for "cuomo primetime." >> i have to tell you, look at this american wine bottle i found online. i see the president's point. you only need to look at it to know that it better than french wine because you're not going to find a french wine with this label. i love it. >> that was funny. i like that. >> i don't even drink wine but i prefer it. i like the way it looks. >> and he said it knowing it was kind of funny that he was saying it. give him props on that one. >> and remember, it's not whether you win or lose, it's whether i win! >> yes, thank you! the game, trump the game. >> have a good weekend, my friend. >> i'm chris cuomo. welcome to trite "prime time" on a friday night. an impeachment already in effect. did you know it was happening? when did they announce? what actually changed? what is going on here? if a major step has been taken

toward impeachment, why don't they come out and say it. we're going to ask a member of the judiciary tonight. we also have a lawmaker on, the all powerful tax committee here as democrats step up their fight for the president's finances. his panel is trolling trump that props that nixon was more law abiding to congress than he. and 2020 democrats are taking their fight to one of the nation's most crucial voting blocks four days out from the cnn debates. a great debate on who's losing, who's losing with african-american voters. happy friday. grab a beverage, let's go after it. all right. what's the latest tally on impeachment? 101 house democrats say, yes, impeachment inquiry. i don't know what i'm counting anymore. it seems the judiciary chair said no reason to count, i got a secret for you. >> just saying there's no

difference between what you're doing now and an impeachment inquiry, correct? >> in effect. >> manu raju, spot on. in effect. they are already having an impeachment inquiry. really? >> that was jerry nadler. his committee would be the right home for it. here's where it gets complicated. in court today here's what they said -- articles of impeachment are under consideration. they're suing for mueller's underlying evidence, the grand jury testimony usually stays secret. you need a compelling interest for it. so how is the president handling all of this, taking it in stride, saying it's not a big deal, we should get on with bigger issues? listen. >> we want to find out what happened with the last democrat president. let's look into obama the way they've looked at me. from day one they've looked into everything that we've done. they could look into the book deal that president obama made. let's subpoena all of his

records. >> two quick points one, if you wanted to argue that what was done to you is wrong and overreaching, why would you argue doing the same to someone else? that's a point of hypocrisy. two, you are the man, mr. president, who started the birther campaign against president obama. we have never seen a more wrongful or pernicious attack in the name of investigating a presidential candidate, let alone a sitting president. so let's discuss what matters in this moment. judiciary and intel committee member val demmings made some big headlines and deservedly so with some of the answers that she elicited from robert mueller. good to have you on "primetime," welcome. >> it's great to be here. thank you for having me. >> so help me understand. is there an impeachment inquiry ongoing? and, if so, why were up guys entertaining all of this pushing about when you're going to start it? >> well, that's a fair question,

chris. look, i believe the chairman used the term impeachment investigation. we are trying to get the underlying evidence to support filing articles of impeachment, just like you would in any criminal investigation, right? >> and that is the job. that is the job for the house. >> you could know who the -- let's say the suspect is. but if that person committed a murder, you want to also recover that weapon, even if you had the supporting testimony, we need all of the evidence to support filing articles of impeachment -- >> 100%? >> yeah. >> and chairman nadler and speaker pelosi said we're going to do this, we're going to do it right. looking at the numbers of our members, all though the decision to file articles of impeachment rests solely with the judiciary committee, you've seen more members from the house, democratic members at least, have come out in favor. i think we're exactly where we hoped to be at this point. >> i hear it and i'm not a

gotcha guy, but i'm saying your advantage or what you want as a perceived advantage is being straight with the american people. because the argument that you guys are saying you can make is that the president wasn't straight with the american people. that's why i'm coming at this. because you got pelosi saying, hey, look, we're going to do this the right way and we'll go into impeachment mode exactly when we have to, not one day sooner. and we have nadler saying we're already in it. impeachment inquiry -- as we've seen in the two previous impeachments, i don't have to tell you this, you're a student of the game, with nixon and clinton, you had the house vote and then went into the judiciary committee to see if you could bring charges. are you trying to avoid that vote here because it would be a tough whip at this point? >> no. in the past the house vote did move for it, but understand, chris, that the house vote is not necessary to begin to file articles of impeachment. >> it's not necessary. you're 100% right. >> yeah. so let's look at what we do

have. we have the man, special counsel robert mueller come in and confirm really what i already knew and everyone who had read the report, but we do know the american people are just too busy to sit down and read a 488 page. he said russia interfered with our election, the president knew it, the president welcomed it, the president or his campaign leaders coordinated with russia, with data and other things that the president engaged in numerous incidences of obstruction of justice and the special counsel could not clear the president of wrong doing. >> right. but on the intelligence side, russian interference is a no-brainer for everybody, but the president, he's only denying it for political purposes, but there was no criminal conspiracy. that's what they mean when they say collusion. it's not a legal term. i would argue there was collusion as a behavior. there was sneaky behavior and that's why they lied about it but not a crime.

and on the obstruction side, that's why you have the poll numbers that you do. you don't have 50% of the country saying impeach. because it seems muddy. if it's not going to it be a clear and convincing situation, why not just hash it out in an election? >> well, chris, remember when articles of impeachment were filed against president nixon, only 19% of the american people were in favor. >> fair point. fair point. >> we have a job to do. look, i didn't come to congress, i've been a police chief 27 years, law enforcement, i didn't come to congress to not take care of my responsibility. we have a direct responsibility to show the american people that nobody -- nobody is above the law up to and including the president of the united states. this is not a popularity game. this is not a popularity game. this is about us doing our job, which we need to do. >> i totally get that. one fair point of pushback.

with nixon, you didn't have the preceding year and a half mueller probe. that only happened with the public hearings. so they only got that first exposure to it and that's why you saw such a jump in public opinion because they learned a lot of things. they had an actual felony, they had smoking gun tapes in that. it was different in terms of what we're dealing with now. >> i hear what you're saying about the timeline on that and i know you're familiar with the mueller report, if you read it, the president engaged in multiple instances of obstruction of justice. and so just like you've seen members of of the house move in what i believe certainly is the right column, being in favor, i do believe that as the american people continue to digest the testimony yesterday find out more and more about the report, hear from attorney mcgahn because we're going to subpoena and require him to testify --

>> if he's forthcoming. >> and see the underlying evidence, i believe more of the american people will be with us as well. >> maybe so. i'm just saying i still think the currency is being straight forward. and even something like this seems a little bit of a dance and the american people are so sensitive to subterfuge right now. the straighter you are, the better off. congresswoman, i appreciate you and thank you for coming back. >> thank you. have me back. >> i will. so impeach or don't impeach. if they don't impeach, there's another way to get the president out of office, you know, it's called an election. democrats are honing in on a key block specifically, four democrats specifically. african-americans. we have numbers that show worries certainly for this president and some interesting implications in party. you're going to want to see it next.

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>> so the unemployment rate among african-americans is the lowest in the history of our country. african-americans have the best numbers in the history of our country. african-american unemployment stands at the lowest rate ever recorded. >> a little bit of a pro tip. talking points generally suffer from context. let's look at these numbers. you see they don't work as well as the president wants them to. why? unemployment for african-americans did hit an historic low last year. period. the numbers started to climb up a little bit earlier this year. there are reasons for that. here, though, at the same time, the overall rate has reamend pretty low. it raises the question of exactly who does the trump economy serve? while trumpers will go to the first step back as a marker of justice reform, now that people are starting to be released from prison, the blowback is starting from the right. what do you have see to balance it out? a return to one of the most

disproportionate forms of punishment, the death penalty. that returns to killing people in the name of justice. african-americans are disproportionately punished by that penalty. what about the clemency for alice marie johnson? the price of the president's compassion. is the glow of celebrity. we once again see this on display as potus ramps up volume on behalf of asap rocky. he's being held in sweden on assault charges. the president got some celebrity buzz on this, responded. okay? now it's all about how you want to measure these things. well, unemployment's at the lowest ever, except the gap between white and black is as bad as we've seen it. i've helped these big name

celebrities with their causes. the grand total of african-american senior advisers within this administration remains at one, ben carson at hud, an agency they had no business running. trump's team knows the politics. black voters helped put him in the white house. why? not by actually voting for him. by staying home. >> they didn't come out to vote for hillary. they didn't come out. so thank you to the african-american community. >> he's right. more than a third of obama voters who sat out 2016, african-american. that's why you see this president picking up on the attacks on biden's criminal justice record. of course he is not the right agent for that. as a white anglo-saxon man, he can sell the outrage of others all day long, but if you're going to talk about the central park five and birtherism, the

attacks from the democrats haven't done much to hinder the former v.p.'s popularity with african-americans, it's very high. 2016, he asked them, what do they have to lose. after a historic midterm. democrats know what they have to lose. the question is are they motivating those voters with their proposals or alienating them with their policies or their attacks. what would it take to generate enthusiasm among african-americans this go-round? we need to have a debate on this. we have both sides completely covered with these two good looking gents next. new from l'oreal. you need some tlc on your eyelashes! meet lash serum solution. conditions and cares for your lashes with lash caring complex. see a denser, thicker-looking lash fringe in just 4 weeks. i would highly recommend it to anyone.

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so if 2020 democrats don't want a repeat of 2016, they're going to need to bring out more african-american voters. while candidates roll out ambitious proposals far to the left than to the center, president trump insists his administration has delivered huge wins for the african-american community. starting point for tonight's great debate, bar carry sellers, who by the way endorsed kamala harris and niger ines, who i'm guessing did not. >> first thing to you, bakari, are you okay with what kamala harris did in the debate with biden now you have booker

calling the v.p. an architect of mass incarceration. do you think that's a fair appraisal of the former v.p.? >> when you look at the crime bills. the damage is caused, caused, that's a fair appraisal. i think what are you going to do now? putting forth robust policy proposals is the answer to many of those questions. >> one step back. i had jim clyburn on here. he was for those bills, too. >> okay. >> he said that it's not as simple as looking at one aspect of it, it was about the time and what we could get down and what else we had in there. does that mean that the candidates are not being fair to biden in that appraisal? >> no, in fact, jim clyburn was wrong as well. bobby rush who ran with jim clyburn, dick durbin who served with jim clyburn, they all say that was the worst vote they've

taken in their life. they regret the vote. they cannot let that go. it very hard to believe you can remedy those problems. this is a robust debate we're having within our party. we are trying to build on the criminal justice reform that barack obama set forth. but let me also say this, chris, and niger as well, let's not get bogged down on this one issue because black folk like more than just criminal justice reform. we like to make money, too. so one of the things you're seeing from pete buttigieg, elizabeth warren, kamala harris, to beto o'rourke. you're seeing plans to remedy and cut in half that wealth gap. republicans always want to say i want black voters. let's do criminal justice reform. tim scott does get it right but more politicians have to start talking about remedying that wealth gap. >> to you, niger, the challenge is easy. you have that the economy is good and that means it good for everybody.

you do have the gap between black and white that's as bad as it's ever been. the bigger problem is who the agent is here. he may be the perfect messenger as an ordinary white anglo male, to go after the out rage and white community. but for donald trump to go after the birthism, does he have a shot. to sell himself at problack. >> he took out a full-page ad in the the "new york times" and still said they did it. >> i'm going to shock you. there were black leaders, including my father, that were just as outraged at the initial reports. >> not just the information reports. he says now that they did it. >> we can argue now -- >> what's the argument, niger?

he won't let go of it because he doesn't want to upset the people who like to hear that the brown guys did it. >> well, let me get to some of the larger points here and not just focus on -- >> if i were you, i would leave that one alone also, niger. well played, well played. continue. >> trump was not the only one -- >> he's now president of the united states. so the fact that there was a bunch of people who didn't know what the hell they were talking about is not the cover for a sitting president to say he still won't accept the justice in that case. move on. >> let me say this. let me say this, all right, as a republican a lot of your viewers may not believe me. i would say look at an individual named tavis smiley, who is a democrat, uber liberal democrat, making an analysis of the state of black america after eight years of barack obama. and let's be clear here. kamala harris, i mean, i love my brother and got -- senator

harris, let me make it easy on myself, senator harris and buttigieg and others are doing a warmed over obamanomics, barack obama's policies, black america not by one economic indicator, not by two, no -- not by three, these are his words. but by his words every single black is worse off. another black democrat. founder of bet. a hillary clinton voter. asked the question about an analysis of trumps performance on the economy. not only is it a-plus but it's a-plus in particular for groups of americans who have been left behind in black and brown communities. i don't care who the messenger is, we're sick of pander fest and we're sick of nice words. we want action and delivery.

>> i don't need to tell either of you, the messenger matters. this demographic maybe more than any other has the keenest ear for false praise and fake friends. are you worried about the economics? >> i'm worried about the economics. i'm not going to sit here and bash tavis smiley and i'm not going to go into that. the economics is very important. there are many of us and niger i'm sure is one of them who had been chanting for a long period of time for both parties to talk about issues of increasing african-american wealth, access to wealth because many times that's the only way that you can achieve and attain some level of success. i failed to mention one person earlier, bernie sanders, who is also talking about these issues. and so it more than just criminal justice reform. i think, chris, though you hit the nail on the head that there are a lot of us who wouldn't

take anything from lester maddux, a lot of us who wouldn't take anything from george wallace and who won't take anything from donald trump. donald trump is a racist period. i say that based on fact, on action and i say that based on deed. i'm not going to make that argument. to niger and everyone else watching, i would say even before we are republican or democrat, we're american, we're black first. going into that, it's very hard to have someone who every single day makes you feel or attempts to make you feel lesser of an individual by his words and deeds because of the color of your skin. the central park five is just one of those ways in which he does it. you can't atone by that by trying to get asap rocky out of jail. it takes a little bit more than that. >> the idea of african-american vote, if they can get another african-american, they'll always vote for them. that is not true. >> no. >> and as a policy

categorization, in that demo, especially if you're looking at african-american women, pretty center of the road. pretty middle of the road. they do not go in for very hyper ambitious, progressive policies. are you worried that while you may be talking the same talk on somin front, you're pushing it too much on the policy front and that could have a chilling effect? >> not at all. i tell people this all the time, african-american women, my mom and her friends are the people who choose the nominee. black women came out in droves for hillary clinton. black women voted at the tune of 94 to 96% for women. white women voted at 53% for donald trump. i don't have the audacity to believe i know why that is. but we're getting something right in the democratic party right now even with all the bickering because in 2016 there was a choice between hillary clinton and donald trump. and a lot of black voters chose the couch. right now i think by giving people something to vote for, giving them policy, giving them initiative to vote for, you'll

see more people engaged in the process. this is not going to be a race about those white voters that we lost. this is going to be a race and i know that rubs a lot of democrats the wrong way, this is going to be a race about energizing your base and getting those people to come back out and vote. >> the president is helping you out. the president has made this election about american identity, who are we, what do we accept and what do we reject? policy will fill in the blanks. >> and the democrats are the squad. >> that's how you're trying to define them, you're using the word socialism. this is going to be about identity politics -- it's going to get ugly. >> don't be scared of powerful black women -- >> no, i love me some -- >> easy. >> i have a mama that was a powerful black woman. just not social irsist -- socialists. bakari, niger, thank you very much. be well.

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some republicans are calling democrats' request for president trump's tax returns unprecedented. but now democrats are pointing to newly released documents showing there is a precedent. a joint committee on taxation got some of then president nixon's records from the irs after nixon failed to turn them over. let's discuss with house ways and means members lloyd dogett. congressman, welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> the argument is this is political payback, that's why you can't get the taxes. what's your counter? >> we dug through the archives and came up with the original documents, copies of them, that showed that president nixon first released some of his tax returns voluntarily, but when the committee needed to see other returns, the internal

revenue service not only responded affirmatively, they did it the same day they were asked. and as well the committee looked at the returns of one of president nixon's children. there was not a problem, there was not a debate. just as there really wasn't any debate at the internal revenue service when they got their first internal opinion, the opinion that secretary mnuchin rejected when he turned to political sources to justify the total obstruction. >> is the reason they were able to get them against nixon because there was an impeachment proceeding going on and gives can qualify as -- you extra deference by the court. >> there was no indication that that was the reason that the irs so quickly responded.

there was not any debate. there was a willingness to make available irs employees, if necessary. there was of the kind of cooperation that comes when you have a clear, unqualified statute that says shall, as you mentioned, that shall meant shall then and it means shall now. it just this particular request that has been made has come so late, i don't expect we'll see these documents during this calendar year. i hope we get them before the end of this congress. >> what happens if when you get the taxes and it shows he didn't have as much income as maybe he led people to believe butch it still plenty. he wasn't that charitable, maybe he played with funny money the way a lot of wealthy people do, maybe there's just not that much in there. how big a blow is that? >> if that's the case, those aren't the only issues we're looking at. the principal issue is to see if the audit process is working appropriately for presidents.

the other issues, whether he's ever paid any taxes at all, whether he's been under ought -- audit. we couldn't get an answer to that question. >> so the irs went tell up whether he's under audit? >> no. >> his lawyer, jay sekulow, he has prove he's under audit. he has the letters. i asked him to show them to me and he's like, nah. maybe that's something up could ask for. >> the chairman of our committee did ask and mr. mnuchin has blocked that and done the kind of obstruction that he was doing before he became a congressman. treasury secretary. >> help me understand where things stand with the democrats right now. all this pressure, when are you guys going to make a decision to launch an impeachment inquiry?

you're not so supposed to nvt to figure out whether or not you have enough to investigate. then today in court papers it says you are under consideration in the judiciary committee of articles of impeachment. when did this happen? >> well, there have been no normal articles drafted for consideration of the judiciary committee i think at the moment but i think the committee is effectively ginning such an inquiry. >> what does that mean effectively beginning such an inquiry? it seems like a hedge, like playing cutesy. that's why i'm asking. >> no, i think it's not cutesy, though there may have been a little confusion at the press conference about it. in order to get access to the grand jury testimony that they've requested, they have a much stronger case if this is part of congress's impeachment responsibilities. beyond that, this commit on its own initiate an impeachment inquiry.

it's an appropriate thing to do before any articles are drafted to determine if they're grounds for impeachment. >> i've been arguing all along, and full disclosure, lloyd dogget is not somebody who has been dodging this question just to be fair. but if you think an impeachment requirement is a no brainer, but the first word of that seems to have a chilling effect. now we see this move. >> i think the problem that i've had, it took me a little while to get to the impeachment stage. i wanted to be sure there were no other alternatives, but i saw the administration running out the clock and democrats not responding in a forceful way. i mean, here we are a hundred days tomorrow after the mueller report was released, we're to the august recess and this democratic caucus has yet to until today to take any offensive action, to file anything other than this belated request for the tax returns.

all of the work the democrats have been doing is playing defense to donald trump's litigation challenges, and we will not prevail on this by just taking the defense. i believe in chairman nadler and what he's doing and i think he's begun an investigation that could lead to impeachment, it may not lead to impeachment. it is an appropriate inquiry. >> you keep talking straight to the american people about it. when up had your reservations, said what they were. when you had convictions, you said what they were. i believe that's what the people are going to expect here. to the extent there's a hesitation, what you see in the polls is they don't want more sneaky stuff going on. so straight talk is the currency. >> i couldn't agree with you more. and, chris, i think we also have a responsibility to lead with that straight talk. to just hold our finger up to the wind to see what the polls show doesn't take care of it. we have a responsibility under the constitution to go out and

lead, to explain to the american people. they will help make this decision certainly, but they need to be fully informed by their members of congress and others of what's been going on here and, you know, we didn't have a sensational moment, not the best perhaps screen review of mr. mueller's testimony, but the substance of what he said is so very important and of his report, but it's up to members of congress to go out and talk with people about that in a very straight way. >> mueller didn't want to be there and he's not looking for anybody's vote. i think performance talk is distracting but i think that there's also a higher order. congressman lloyd doggett again, especially on a saturday night. how about this one, something spooky. some people are trying to mess with halloween. no trick. is it a treat? what does laura cote think about the move? we'll argue next. he were's the situation.

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of a chance? a halloween industry trade group launched its plea last year, arguing what? well, moving all hallow's eve will lead to a safer, longer and stress-free celebration. the petition has some 85,000 signatures. they're trying to get to 150. laura coates, bring in the counselor, aka the upgrade, what do you want? >> i would sign the petition twice. >> i'm against it. >> do you know what a pain it is as a mom to try to leave work early? >> nope. as a dad i do. >> you have to leave work early, figure out the kids, get your own costume and put the kids' costume on. saturday night is better. >> suck it up. that's what parents do. this is about tradition. having the kids understand what it means. it means more when it's hard. >> i suppose you walked up the

hill ten miles to school -- >> both ways. >> on saturday night, you can start earlier in the day. it already like nighttime. the sun is down by the time halloween starts. if you is little kids, you have to have people who can go a little bit earlier. i want my snickers bar early in the night. >> is that your go to? >> kitkat. >> fun size? >> no, i do the full size. >> i'm a reeses pieces we did some research. peanutbutter stuff of number one. so much for the allergies. i'll go with the peanutbutter cuts. the kids get a nice break on that day. some of the kids, the catholic school, they're a little rough on the costumes. that's a nice break from the kids. you'll be taking it from them, stealing it.

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friday night. what is in a name? take a listen. >> there's no difference between what you're doing now and impeachment inquiry, correct? >> in effect. >> this is an impeachment investigation. >> we're crossing a threshold. absolutely. >> okay. democrats on the house judiciary committee have officially opened an impeachment inquiry. >> what's going on is that i think too much has been made of the phrase impeachment inquiry. >> you can define it as you please. undoubtedly, we are collecting overwhelming evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by the president of the united states. >> hence the romeo and juliet illusions here. however, there is nothing poetic about the play being made here. however, just like romeo and juliet, no matter how much you wish otherwise, what you call something matters.

what's going on here? the message seemed clear in court documents today. the committee is investigating whether to recommend articles of impeachment and requires access to grand jury materials in furtherance of that investigation. although the house has not considered a formal resolution structuring any particular proceedings by the committee such a resolution is not a necessary predicate to consideration of articles of impeachment. soft. what light through yonder court pleading breaks. they may not need the resolution, but why not call it what it is outside of court. here's good reason. speaker pelosi does not seem to agree that democrats are already in impeach/inquiry mode. >> let's get sophisticated about this, okay? okay? >> how long will the court fight take? >> we won't proceed when we have what we need to proceed. not one day sooner. >> sophisticated. i'm quoting shakespeare.

most house democrats are with the speaker on this. now, the number supporting an impeachment inquiry is growing. you see them all there, about triple-digits, but here's why it's taken time to get there despite so much talk damning what this president has done. you are not there. 59% of you are not in favor of impeachment hearings. that number is up from 46% a year ago, meaning it is more against since the report came out. however, we do not have numbers since the mueller hearing. we'll see. but let's be clear about this. this is not playing gotcha with the democrats or oh, you didn't say it, saying different things. it's not petty. it is sophisticated because it's about being straight with people. and as in the play, the name carries a meaningful distinction. in fact, many legal experts not argue not launching an overt impeachment inquiry while not

giving congress additional powers may give congress additional leverage, thus speeding up several cases. for example, this white house is denying access to grand jury material arguing that congress doesn't have a legitimate legislative purpose for requesting it. that's why they said what they said in court today, because an impeachment inquiry gives them more of a look of a judicial proceeding. so a court can allow them to be disclosed if it's in connection with the judicial proceeding. you get what i'm saying? an impeachment inquiry looks more like that than just regular oversight. they're trying to make it not look like a run-of-the-mill congressional situation. saying the words "impeachment inquiry" could open the door to other information the democrats desperately want. like what? don mcgahn testimony, tax returns. it seems to be about avoiding a vote on the floor to start inquiry. republicans would likely be against it whipping democrats to get to a yes may not be a slam dunk. and it's also a hedge against the real risk that the majority

of the country might take an impeachment move as proof that democrats are no better than the bully they see in the white house. to stick with willy here, the voters may say a plague on both your houses. bottom line. if the democrats want to play to advantage, be transparent. be sophisticated. and that means be straight forward. there's already too much confusion about what is real and what's fake. democrats want to show they are fulfilling their oath. that oath is to hold power to account, in part, right? they also want to avoid a winding up like the star-crossed lovers in romeo and juliet where they both die as a result of their actions. they're right to see the risk of public rejection of the effort. however in this situation it doesn't have to be a tragedy. like the one i compare it to. remember this. remember this. this is my favorite line from romeo and juliet.

one pain is lessened by another's anguish. thus if the democrats believe they can make a compelling case to the american people this president is responsible for the kinds of wrongs they keep suggesting, any fallout for them should be nothing compared to what this president will have to answer for. that's all for us tonight. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with laura coates in for d-lemon, aka the upgrade, starts now. >> you're the only person i know can call william shakespeare willie and get away with it. >> my man! >> you know what they say. all the world is a stage. men and women merely players. i wonder who is getting played. the american people or the word play. is it a rose or a rose. not smelling very sweet. >> i'm with you. to me, as we said where i grew up, they're faking the funk right now, counselor. >> shakespeare also said that, cuomo, by the way. he did. it's part of it. >> i thought "all the world's a