this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm natalie allen at cnn's center in atlanta following breaking news right now. this our second hour. gunfire, a mass shooting with casualties at a crowded family food festival in northern california. >> what's going on? what's going on? are there fireworks? >> right here. come on. >> what the [ bleep ] going on? >> that is the moment when people realized someone was shooting and they started to run. very confused. just trying to get away. this is gilroy, california, a city of about 50,000. it's about 30 miles south of san jose, california. and we can now confirm that at least one person is dead and several others are wounded. as we've been saying, this is a large and popular food festival

that has been going on for decades. it supports the local community and it's called the gilroy garlic festival. [ gunshots ] >> shots ringing out there at this festival. people running for their lives. law enforcement are now telling cnn that they have recovered a firearm and rifle ammunition from the scene. this man was there. >> it sounded like automatic gunfire and it sounded like approximately 30 rounds. and then there was a point of silence and then there was another reload. it seemed like a reload. and we heard 30 more rounds. >> and how close were you to this gunfire? >> we were probably within a few hundred feet. >> and from what i understand in speaking to a number of vendors and festivalgoers, this gunfire came in and around the stage

area. is that your understanding? >> that's my. >>ing . >> that's my understanding. near the stage and kids area. >> a number of people have described confusion and chaos moments after the gunfire erupted. what was your experience? >> i think once we heard the gunfire, i realized what it was. i think some other folks few what it was. we started hearing people say "evacuate, evacuate, evacuate." the garlic festival volunteers were getting people out the back exit and to take cover. >> and bill, i want to stop for a moment and show you, there are a number of police cars, trucks, it appears from the santa clara's sheriff's office all headed in one direction with their lights flashing. and so, again, that does let us know that there is some heavy police activity in that direction. so we will keep you posted on what we are hearing and seeing on the ground here outside the

command post at -- >> all right. let's bring in our crime and justice report shimon prokupecz. shimon, we just heard that apparently police have recovered a firearm and rifle ammunition from the scene. what could that indicate? >> well, first, it could indicate obviously that the suspect, the shooter here may have left that behind. you know, we've gotten reports that the shooter was still at large and that police were still searching for him, which is why they're still calling it an active shooter situation, an active scene. we know the police are all over this police looking for evidence and also potentially looking for this shooter. so we don't have word yet, and i think that's important, that the shooter's in custody or that they have him in any way. so that's the big question here, obviously. there's been other reports indicating that there may have been more than one shooter. sometimes you hear that a lot in these situations during the chaos. i think some of what we're heard from witnesses is very important here. this shooting seems to have happened next to a stage where a

band was performing, there was music, it came towards the end of this festival. the festival, according to the website was ending at around 6:00 pacific time. the band was still playing and then the shots started ringing out. so i think that's going to be a key factor for investigators. the other thing that is still not certain is was this shooter targeting someone or was this completely random and this shooter was just trying to create chaos, trying to kill as many people as possible? the fact that they've recovered this rifle, we don't know what kind of style of rifle it is, but we have heard witnesses describe automatic gunfire, rapid gunfire. you heard that one witness saying about 30 gunshots, that the shooter may have loaded, reloaded, a key fact here. so all of that still very much in the air. we have yet to officially hear from police as to exactly what happened here. we know the president tweeted. he said that the shooter was still wanted, was still on the run, saying that it was still a

very dangerous situation. so still a lot of unanswered questions. we know that one person -- at least one person has been killed and there have been several injured. we don't know the condition of those injured. two of them we know were transported to a local hospital and we have yet to hear anything on this condition. but still by all accounts a very, ve very, very active situation on the ground there for police. >> yeah, absolutely. gilroy police did put out a tweet at least a half hour ago that they're working the story and there would be an update as soon as they could give it, but apparently they're extremely busy. they haven't done that. you were talking about the shooter. i did speak with one of the band members who was right there on the stage when the shooter came next to the stage and started firing, and to him he couldn't really decipher any kind of demeanor from this person, but seemed to be shooting indiscriminately with perhaps no distinctive expression or focus from the shooter. well, now we see that it's just

after 9:00 p.m. there, shimon, in gilroy. so what are they up against now that darkness has fallen? >> well, if they're searching for this shooter, that's going to be the most important thing for law enforcement right now, is to try and apprehend the shooter. that, by far, is the biggest priority. you would think that by this point they have a handle on the injured, that they've been able to go through the scene, try to find anyone that's been injured and get them the aid that they need. that was something -- in a lot of situations in these shootings, there's always a delay in getting to victims because when you're bringing in ems workers, ems technicians, they don't necessarily have tactical gear to go into active shooter situations. so the police need to secure the area first and then medical aid could go in and try and render aid. so that was definitely something that we saw here. it did delay some of the medics from getting in. but we're not hearing a whole

lot in terms of the injured. we know that at least one person has been killed, and obviously there have been several injured, but we don't know the extent of those injuries. it could be just people running from the scene. >> yeah, shimon, we have heard that 11 are confirmed injured. we do know that much. >> okay. yeah, so we don't know the extent of their injuries. you know, in these situations people start running from the scene, they fall, people trample each other. you always get that in these types of situations. the big thing now is where the shooter? is he did? is he on the run? do police have him? the other question is motive. what happened here? was this shooter targeting someone and those individuals were caught in the crossfire or was this just completely random? someone who went into this area knowing there were going to be thousands of people here and open fire. that's still the big question and we yet -- we don't yet know the answer to that. >> right. and to hear the band tell me there were thousands of people

around them. so that shows many easy targets for this gunman. i've also been given this information. so one person dead, multiple injured. they've been shot. in the hospital. with gunshot wounds. the people that we know about are in serious to fair condition, at least it's not critical at this juncture. all right. shimon, stand by. we are getting new sound from a new eyewitness from our affiliate on the ground, kgo tv. >> when did you realize that your cousin, your 12-year-old cousin was shot? >> well, when we were almost, like, in a fence, we were really close to a fence. we just saw a hole and she was crying. >> so it sounds like she got shot while you were running away from the gunfire and the gunman? >> yeah, probably. we aren't sure. >> so were you outside the fair grounds when she was shot? >> outside the fair grounds, like the -- >> you said you were in the

woods afterwards, right? >> she got shot before. way before, probably. she was already bleeding. >> was she crying? was she saying she was in a pain? >> yeah, a lot of times. like, she was hurting, like, a lot. >> how did you get her out of there? >> well, she was running fast. that's why we didn't know she got fast. she was running normally. >> maybe it just was a shock to her and she realized something was wrong all of a sudden? >> yeah, probably just adrenaline because she wanted to get out of that situation. >> i know you said you were in the woods at one point, this was behind the garlic festival, correct? >> yeah. yeah. >> how did you eventually get help? how did she end up here at the hospital? was there an ambulance that took her? was there help waiting for all the victims? >> well, we went to hide in the woods and then we just waited a little bit. we knew our family was going to come at some point. we were just waiting. she got out to find help from our family. >> and then a family member drove her to an ambulance, is that correct?

>> yeah. >> okay. was she saying anything to you guys? >> yeah, she was crying and she was saying she was in a lot of pain, but not really anything else. and to call her mom. >> and i know that her mom, her parents are at the hospital right now, right? >> yeah. >> okay. as are your parents, whom i've spoken to. this is not what you expected when you came to visit your family, i think needless to say? >> no. that was crazy. i wasn't expecting that. >> you're very calm right now. i imagine it was absolutely terrifying, though. >> well, i was calm, but, yeah, it was freaky. it was just -- i was in shock. >> i think most of the people we've been talking with are in shock. we want to bring in another eyewitness on the phone for us now is lex de la heron. electio lex, thanks so much for talking with us. you were on the ground and you were wounded. take us through what happened.

>> so i originally was walking away as the music was winding down and i turned around for a quick moment and i hear the gunshot sounds. at first i thought it was fireworks. a man behind me screamed "those are real, those are real." i just froze like a deer in the headlights and all of a sudden blindsidedly, this piece of unknown shrapnel came towards me and struck me in the forehead. luckily it wasn't anything serious, just left a bruise behind, but right after that, i just started running. i was looking behind to make sure that, you know, my family was with me and i saw people jumping over the fence, people trampling over each other. it was just widespread chaos. and it was just unbelievable having to, you know, experience a traumatic experience like this. >> wow. i can understand. as you ran, did the gunman continue to shoot?

>> yeah, at first there was initial six firing and there was a brief pause. and after that pause, the gunman resumed firing, but after that i didn't hear any more gunshots at that time. >> how far did you -- were you able to run to get away? >> i ran as quick as i could. i ran about maybe 30 feet away from where the firing was happening. and i was running with the crowd toward where the busses were. luckily a bus was there and i was able to get on there quickly. because, you know, in those situations you don't know whether or not you're being chased or, you know, what the gunman is doing. you know, there are so many things that were just running through my mind, but, you know, i tried to stay as calm as i could. >> you sound like you were, lex. but what about the people around you? were people screaming? >> yeah, people were screaming.

i saw multiple people jumping over a fence. someone tripped over a fence. i saw a couple of people trip, too. but people were definitely in shock. there was a large silence and, you know, some people were visibly shaking. and, you know, it was just a time of just complete shock and trying to process everything that just happened. >> right. you know, you see these things on television, and fortuna unfortunately, our country is in a terrible midst with mass shootings. many people who see the news stories can't comprehend what it's like to go through something like this. how will you tell it to your family? >> i would say it's -- it's like a moment of -- the best thing to do was not to panic and i did

the best that i could in that situation, but i -- i had to deal with what i knew, and that was when a situation like that happens, you have to get away from the crowd and away from the source of -- of the turmoil, and i think using a calm and collected mind as best as possible through the adrenaline rush, i think it's important that we all are aware at all times. you know, it's an extra precaution that we have to take, but, you know, we live in a reality where we have to be wary of those around us and always be prepared for anything, especially at festivals and -- it's a shame we have to, but we have to do what we can to protect ourselves and our family and our friends so we can ensure that if something like this were to happen again, we are all prepared as best we can and we can possibly reduce the amount of casualties. but, you know, it's -- it's all

that we can do. >> right. >> there's -- it's a sense of hopelessness, but trying to find the hope within that, it's quite difficult because, you know, like you said, we see these incidents happening all the time. i never thought that i would be involved in such an incidents, and, you know, it hit me pretty hard that -- >> right. >> -- you know, it can be any one of us. and if i was two minutes away from -- if i stood where i was near the stage for two more minutes, i would have been an easy target because, you know, at that time things were winding down. there were not that many people left. the festival was starting to come to an end, but, you know, that's -- that's what happened, you know? someone took advantage of that and, you know, it's really sad. >> right. well, lex, thank you so much for talking with us because i'm sure this is a very, very emotional time for you. so many feelings that you're

having. we're so glad that you're okay and thank you so much, lex de la heron on the phone with us. >> thank you. >> all the best to you, lex. >> let's bring back in our experts we've been talking with. juliette kayyem, jonathan wackrow and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. back to you, juliette. you've been listening as we've been hearing more about this shooter, the proximity to these thousands of people and that there has been a rifle recovered, but the shooter, it seems to be, remains at large. >> that's what we're hearing from eyewitnesss. actually there is a bit of a gap between eyewitness accounts and what you're seeing on twitter. i'm only saying that because this is why -- while we want to give the police department patience, generally there would be some information or formal information out by now. the number who have been at the hospital, if they can confirm the number dead, whether this is an active shooter or there has

been an apprehension. one has to assume it is an active shooter. what kind of gun. the make and model of the gun. you know, we don't need this information just because we're on the media, we're analysts. actually, the information then begins to set a stage and sort of undermine the rumors that you see in this day and age. so i hope that we'll hear from police department relatively soon because even this question of is there a second shooter, just from what i can tell, none of the people you've interviewed have mentioned a second shooter. that seems to be coming from online, sort of twitter and stuff. >> right. >> so people will be cautious as we're reporting it because eyewitness accounts, while not perfect are certainly better than sort of anonymous narrating from twitter. >> right. let's go to former philadelphia police commissioner now, charles ramsey. charles, what are you gleaning from what you've been hearing

and what are police up against now that nightfall has occurred there in california? >> well, certainly nightfall is not helpful, but they right now are in a process probably of still trying to search the area. they've established a perimeter. it looks like they have a lot of resources there at their disposal so they should be able to lock that area down. they're interviewing witnesses, processing a scene. if what we heard is accurate that a firearm's been recovered, shell casings and the like, obviously that's all part of evidence. so that's what they're going through now, trying to get as much information as possible under the circumstances. and at least lock it down until daylight. but they do have at their disposal, i'm sure, a helicopter with thermal imaging, night vision, they've got k-9s. they'll use whatever they have to use to try to locate the person or persons responsible for this if they're still on the scene. >> right. let's go to jonathan wackrow, former secret service agent.

what about the element of time, jonathan, the more time it takes to find this person? >> well, listen, obviously it seems like the person has fled, so he has a -- he or she has a jump already on the law enforcement. but the fact that they ditched their weapons means that they may be trying to become more mobile or blend into the crowd that's there. that may make it more complicated for law enforcement. secondary theory could be that they may have run out of ammunition with their primary weapons system and they could be running to a secondary location where they can rearm themselves. so when we say that this is an active situation, this is also a dangerous situation for the public. so, you know, it's -- the public's just reminded that law enforcement is converging on this area, they're setting up the perimeter to try to find, you know, who this individual is and put this threat down. so this isn't the time for people to come to the scene and look. there is family unification process that is in place.

they should make outreach that way. but not come to an active police/law enforcement scene at this time. >> all right. jonathan, we thank you. juliette and police commissioner charles ramsey. we want to let our viewers know that we are just about ten minutes away from hearing from the gilroy police, their first news conference since this shooting broke out. we'll bring you live coverage of that. quick break. we'll be right back. what does help for heart failure look like? it looks like jill heading off on an adventure. jill has entresto, a heart failure medicine that helps her heart so she can keep on doing what she loves. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. it helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby.

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now on cnn. a mass shooting at a crowded food festival in northern california. our latest confirmed information, at least one person is dead, 11 others are wounded. we are awaiting the gilroy police department to hold a news conference in a few moments. but a short time ago, we heard some details about the people who were hurt and were taken to hospitals nearby. this is the spokeswoman for the santa clara valley medical center. >> it's unfortunate we have to be here tonight at this tragic incident. i'll let you know what the update is. this is primarily information. saint louise regional hospital received a total of six gunshot wound victims from the gilroy shooting today. two of those patients were transferred to santa clara medical center. three patients remain at saint louise in serious or fair condition and one patient is deceased. saint louise got another seven

patients with injuries that don't require hospitalization. running away, maybe spraining an ankle, getting cuts and bruises in the panic of the situation and they may get more. santa clara valley medical center took the two transfers from saint louise and then we received another five gunshot victims. these patients came by ambulance or helicopter and are being treated for their wounds. their conditions range from critical to fair at this time. >> we know that a 12-year-old girl is being treated here. her family says that she was shot in the leg. we certainly hope that she's okay as well as all of the other victims. can you talk about the age range here of the victims at both of the hospitals? >> i don't have all the ages at this time, so i can't provide that information. >> do you have a youngest or an oldest? >> no, i do not. >> i'm sure you've been in this business a long time. i'm sure your hospital's trained for this type of incident, but it's always shocking when this happens. >> i think it's been very, you

know, they're professionals, right? they're here. they're getting the job done, both at saint louise and that valley medical center. we do train and drill and exercise, so our staff's really well prepared. the great thing is a number of people who weren't working today said, do you need me to come in and help. that's been fabulous by our staff. >> they're gun shot wounds and that's all i can say at this point. >> can you recap the total number of victims that you guys have received. >> so saint louise got six. and then santa clara valley medical center got another total of five. but we took two of the patients from saint louise. >> so for a total of nine? >> in total of 11, 6 and 5, 11, in the both hospitals. >> but two were transferred. >> two of the first six were transferred to valley medical center. >> i know you've explained their conditions. are these victims in surgery right now? >> i don't have that information right now.

>> and do you know if one of the victims was the shooter? >> i do not believe so. >> there's another reporter who just asked if one of the victims taken to the two santa clara valley health systems was the shooter, and joy does not believe so. >> i do not believe that we received the shooter. >> okay. do you have any information for people who might be trying to come to your hospitals, because, like you said, they may have these nongunshot related injuries? >> i do not. i don't have the information, but there is through the city of gilroy command center, there is a family reunification number for people to call. >> but if people have an injury that's perhaps minor, do you need people to stay away from our emergency rooms? are you guys packed right now? any advice to people who can go to -- >> if people are injured, they can come in. if they can wait until tomorrow to see their doctor if it's not a serious injury, they should do that. but if they have an injury they're concerned about, they should come in. >> the hospital spokeswoman reiterating that 11 people have

been shot. they're in the hospital. their conditions range from fair to critical and there is one person who has been killed from this shooting. again, we're just a few minutes away from hearing from the police department here at the festival. let's go to our paul vercammen. he is gathering information there in our los angeles bureau. you know, paul, when i first heard that this happened at the gilroy garlic festival, that was hard to comprehend. this is a family festival. it is very popular. it supports the community. what more can you tell us about it? >> well, you're right. it supports the community in so many ways. they say the average attendance per weekend and usually more than 100,000, natalie. this particular festival has raised $11 or so million for local schools and local nonprofits. as you articulate, it's very popular. people will come down from san francisco, oakland, san jose,

monterey bay, throughout california. and garlic is huge agri business. well known for the gilroy garlic fries. we should also note so no one is alarmed by what happened here in case their relative was at another stage here. they had three stages set up at this festival. as we've heard from witnesses, this tribute band, tinman, that plays classic rock was winding things down. other artists such as kaleigh hammock from nashville and colby c calet, she played yesterday. there were three stages and there was sort of a problem in the area of the stage where more of the local bands were playing. so we don't want to give everybody the sense that all of these stages were threatened during this incident. we're hearing the same thing you're hearing, natalie. confirmation is one killed and 11 injured at this festival. >> and the search is on for the

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>> what's going on? what's going on? are there fireworks? >> get right here. >> what the [ bleep ] going on? oh [ bleep ]. oh, they're shooting. >> we can now confirm at that least one person is dead. 11 others have been shot. they're in the hospital. they are conditions ranging from fair to critical. this happened at a large and very popular food festival called the gilroy garlic festival. [ gunshots ] >> you can hear the shots ringing out there at this festival. frighten people running for their lives, trying to figure out what was going on. law enforcement now telling cnn that they have recovered a firearm and rifle ammunition from the scene. the shooter, as we understand, it still on the run. let's hear from another eyewitness. >> we didn't know where to go and there was people there. two ladies and my cousin has

come and ran and we all hid under the table. and you could just hear right behind my booth, you could just hear the loud pops. they were right behind it. it was just a nightmare. it was the most scariest thing we'd ever been through. i just comfort them because they were all shaking. we were all shaking. >> where was your -- your stand set up here, in terms of the festival? and when you heard this, you said it was continuous. >> yes. >> like a machine gun? >> it was continuous, like pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. it was just fast. i mean, fast. it wasn't like a handgun sound, like a pop, pop. it was continuous. very fast. >> you said you saw people hitting the ground? >> i saw people running and they were just falling down. and i don't know if, you know, because at that moment you're just wondering what's going on. you're just in shock. i don't know if they were hit. all i knew is they were down. >> so what did you do at that very moment? >> at that time, i just -- i

ran. i don't know. moment -- i'm still shook up. >> sure. sure. >> so i just ran behind my booth. i saw two people. they ran and jumped behind the table. and so there was a total of three of us. we got as close under my -- under my table in the far back of my booth as we possibly could get. my cousin got in there and there was a total of four of us. and i -- we just prayed, and the noise was very loud behind my booth. i honestly thought we were going to get shot. >> so you were thinking at that point, this might be in? >> yes, i honestly thought it was. it was so bad. the sounds were so close. and then i come to find out that the booth -- i just reunited with one of the booth members in the booth next to me, and they actually saw the shooter -- my booth was the end and then there was a bit of a gap at the end of the aisle. then there's a bit of a gap.

there's like this patio or something like somebody had made up, you know, as a vendor showing it. so there was some space between mine, but you could easily walk around there. so they said that they actually saw the -- one of the shooters swaying and shooting from there. so that's why i know -- i think i heard it so loud because they were right there at my -- right next to my booth. >> and you're saying one of the shooters? >> yes, i heard there was a total of three shooters. at that point when -- maybe it was about -- maybe about a minute, minute and a half, i heard the sirens. i felt a little relief but then there was -- i don't know if there was still noise. there might have still been popping. and then it got quiet. and then maybe about, i don't know, a minute or two later they -- someone was come down screaming "run as fast as you can. run." so we all just got up and started running. we didn't know where we were running, but we just ran

straight to the right and i don't know where we ended up, but it was -- it was intense. >> so you actually grabbed some people, you went into your booth. >> yeah. >> you hid underneath the table. >> yeah. >> you start hearing these increasingly loud popping sounds. >> right there. right behind my booth or to the side of it, i couldn't tell. it was so close i was just praying to god we wouldn't get shot in the back or the head. i just comfort them and just told them that, you know, we're -- god is with us. we're going to be okay. we're going to make it okay and just pray at that moment because you don't know. you don't know if you're going to make it out alive or what's going to happen. and then you feel trapped because you can't really get up and run. because the shots are still firing. so it's a -- very, very uncomfortable situation. traumatic. >> absolutely. >> yeah. >> i mean -- >> yeah. >> and we want to thank you for sharing this information with us. but i do want to get into how much time there was underneatha

were underneath the table and eventually able to get out from underneath and run with everybody else. >> probably maybe like three to five minutes, it seemed like. it seemed like, yeah, because the shots were kept going. it was like, you know, continuous and then it seemed like it stopped and then it would start and then that was it. and then it just stopped and then we weren't sure -- we were still staying there. but you kind of want to -- you want to get up and you want to run, yet you're afraid because you don't know, you know, are they still going to shoot at you? thank god i didn't because apparently they were right next to my booth on the side. >> did you -- did you see anybody? >> no, thank god, i did not. no, i did not. when you decided to eventually get up and run with everybody. >> yeah. >> because you were pretty much told by someone, hey, you know -- >> yeah. >> -- we've got to go. >> we've got to go quickly. >> of the people that you said were dropping, did you see anybody on the ground? >> no, i didn't. i did not look. i didn't look. i just wanted to -- i just ran.

in fact, i was separated from my cousin and my friend that was working in the booth with me. we all separated so we couldn't find each other. i just found them now at the high school. >> okay. so this center has really come to great use of you in such a troubling time. >> yes. >> you were able to get back with everybody. what was that moment like? >> relief. you know, knowing that my cousin wasn't hurt or injured. so, very traumatic. >> so what's going through your head at the time when you're underneath that table? you're in, you know, you don't -- you don't know what to process, right? because you're -- you're trying to understand exactly -- >> yeah. >> -- what's happening, but, you know, of the people that you were separated with, they weren't underneath the table with you, right? >> one of my cousins. my cousin was -- >> i'm sorry. okay. i guess we will have to do that. >> press conference location for you. >> we're live on the area. i apologize. >> clear the area. >> will do. well, we have to clear the area,

unfortunately, guys. we want to thank you for joining us. >> well, that was a police officer there interrupting to talk about the news conference that we are on stand by for. we will bring that to you as soon as it begins from the gilroy police department. let's go back to our panel now. with me is cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem, former secret service agent jonathan wackrow and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. i'd like to speak with you, jonathan, first about what we just heard from this woman. what did you glean from what she was saying? first of all, she's the one witness that i've heard since our coverage began that described as many as three shooters. what -- it would be probably impossible to know right now with everyone running and just hearing the pops and not -- and not looking. >> yeah, i mean, i think what you have to take a look at is, you know, these are very dynamic. they're obviously unpredictable situations. and, you know, in the moments of

a crisis, people have a physiological and psychological strain that's put on them. so this is the challenge for law enforcement. we've heard that, you know, people confirming, no, there was one shooter. now someone saying that there were three. the shots came from over here. the crowd was running over there. the problem is that there's a lot of chaos in the moments of these incidents, so that's the challenge for law enforcement is, how do they take all of this information in, digest it to actually come out with some actionable intelligence that they can then use to go forward and address this threat? >> all right. stand by. we'll get back to all of you in just a moment. but cnn's correspondent dan simon is there on the scene for us. and dan, you can set the scene for us. where are you? what are you seeing? and what are you hearing? >> reporter: we are at gavalin college, natalie. i can tell you that a press conference is going to take place shortly with authorities that are going to brief us on what has taken place. i want to introduce you to a

couple of witnesses who were selling some honey, is that correct? >> yes. yes. >> reporter: tell us what you saw and how close you were to the shooter. >> i think we were, like, ten feet when we first saw him because he was -- we walked out of the porta potties, which was probably about 25 feet away from our tent and we heard a shot as we were getting out. what, is that a firecracker? we turned around and this guy had his rifle and he was putting something in it. we seen his side. he was white and he had shorts on. he had a green vest and a brown hat. as soon as he put that in, he just turned around and started walking fast towards our thing shooting. and we ran the other way. >> and our bus and her husband got shot. and my granddaughter and his son -- her son were in the tent at the time. they didn't get shot. my granddaughter grabbed him and hid him underneath a box. she looked him straight in the eye and saw him, saw him coming towards her. they hid. they shot my boss once in the leg and he shot her husband three times.

they're in critical condition. both in surgery at valley medical. i have no news on them. i don't know what's going on. >> yeah, so, when she realized that there granddaughter was still there, so she went and saw -- everyone kept telling me to keep running. >> i had to get to the tent because i had to make sure she was safe. the neighbors took them and hid them where they were safe. they were laying on the ground. i didn't know if they got shot. i don't think paco's going to make it. where is the baby? i have him. he's going to be safe. he's okay. i got him. and then they took one away in a pickup truck and another one away in moving van. the ambulance never got over there. they just took them away. they took them out and then the ambulances took them away. >> a few minutes later they told us, you got to run, there's somebody in the bushes or in the field. run. get out of here. just keep going, the cop said. >> i saw the police had killed the shooter. he was laying by the slide. >> the shooter that we saw. >> was laying by the slide dead.

>> you say the shooter was apprehended by police? shot by police? >> shot by police in the head. the one we saw was shot by police in the head. >> how long would you say it took for police to arrive at the scene? >> they were there pretty fast. we went to the bathroom about 5:20, you know, so, because it was almost over. he started shooting about 5:25 or something. and then about -- well, i don't know time wise because it just seemed like -- >> i would say no longer than ten minutes police were over there and he was dead. at the most. everything went so fast. >> still not processed in our heads, you know? >> it's horrible. you can't go anywhere safe. this is supposed to be a safe place for everybody to be. >> the shooter never said anything. >> he didn't look at anybody. >> we were lucky we didn't scream. we were that close, he would have shot us. >> he would have turned around and shot us. that's how close he was to us. >> reporter: all right. let's talk about what the shooter was wearing. you said he had shorts and a green vest on.

>> like the flat jacket, military or whatever. >> tactical vest. >> reporter: could you see any facial expressions? >> no, we only saw the side view. >> reporter: what about his build, his age? >> average size guy. probably built like you but not as tall as you. just an average size guy. >> white guy. >> yeah, white guy. he was white. he was probably maybe 5'10", 5'11". >> reporter: approximate age? >> 25 to 35 if anything. he didn't look that old. she thought he had a darker mustache and a beard. i don't know. that's my granddaughter. >> reporter: and what witnesses have said and i heard you say, you heard one shot and then there was a pause for ten or so seconds and you heard another volley of gunn fire. >> we saw him shooting and running towards our tent, our vendors tent. >> we heard the pop. we walked out of the bathroom, we heard the pop. i didn't think nothing of it. we saw him at the same time. he put the thing in and started

walking towards our tent and shooting like this. >> we ran the other way. she remembered her granddaughter and the people kept telling me to run, get down. then she went back -- >> it was chaos, you know? it was pandemonium. it was chaos. but it was like everything happened so fast and then it was over with. >> somebody said when i was in the back where the venders parked that somebody brought a little baby boy -- >> there was a lady running with a child who wasn't alive. >> he was dead. >> the shooter shot him. and i don't know that. but what they're showing on tv is on the other side of the park people running. i don't know if there was somebody else -- i don't know. >> somebody said fatigues, too. definitely what we saw was -- >> okay then. our paul simon interviewing two witnesses. and one of the witnesses, the lady there in the blue shirt, as you heard, according to what she saw is that the shooter was shot. now, we don't have any confirmation of that. we've got no information from

police on that. so let's go back now to this interview. >> in the field -- >> in the field. >> so they said get out of here. just keep running. just had everybody go out of the garlic festival and leave. >> out in the middle of the field. i don't know. we didn't see anything after that. >> we had a momentary pause with the camera. we had to change batteries. let me pick up the story. from when you heard the gunfire. tell me exactly what was first thing you did? >> i ran. when i heard the first pop, like i said we thought it was the fireworks. i saw him. we said to each other, oh, my god and we just ran around the porta potties. >> adds soon as i got around the back side of the porta potties, i said, oh, my god, where is miranda and the baby? that's where my panic mode was. there was a big van there. i was trying to go around the van to see if i could see where the kids were. i was panicked. i didn't know what to do. >> i was already on the other side of the field.

i just kept running. >> we're going to hear from authorities in just a few minutes, but i wonder, what questions do you have? >> i just -- so scary. what has this world come to? you know, you can't even be safe. >> where is the gun control? assault rifles. >> how did they get them in? did they hide them the day before. who are these people? >> i heard several witnesses say security was pretty good. >> they were good. they were from gilroy pd, on horses and motorcycles. >> when did they hide them? >> metal detecters to get in? >> i don't know. we're vendors. we didn't have to do that. >> i know it was a rifle, so, you know, how did he get that in? >> there's a -- there's a -- there's a walkway -- there's a chain link fence and a creek on that side. so he could have jumped over the fence right there and no one saw him and then come straight to us. everything could have been hidden behind there. they don't patrol that. it's fenced off. not part of the festival. >> who knows what they did. it's so scary you can't just go have fun. i never, ever had something this close to people.

it could have been us. if i didn't have to go to the bathroom, we would have been right in that tent. >> we would have been shot. i know we would have. we were standing right there. >> went to the bathroom and i this gun thing is skilling me. how do people get in? >> why would they want to hurt so many people. take your own life and leave everybody -- >> have krou been at the festival before? >> this is my fifth year working it. we used to go all the time. i have been in gilroy 35 years. it's entertainment and music. it's family. there's a lot of ifs. >> we haven't processed it. it's unreal. it's so close. the people we that got shot we know them. we work with them. >> it's so scary. >> ten years.

she's like my best friend. and her husband. i took care of their child. it's lock down. i can't see what's happening to them. i have no contact. >> i'm not a relative. what do you do? it's insane. >> i still haven't processed it. we hugged each other and said thank god. it could have been us. >> two minutes. it's too much. >> we don't know how her granddaughter will process it. >> she saw the whole thing. >> she's ten. >> she saved a three year-old. grabbed him and hid him. 10 year-old. >> lady, thank you so much for talking to cnn. >> can disand cheryl. >> thank you so much. >> we really appreciate your time. >> you heard there and pretty

vivid detail. what happened there. from the two witnesses. they were just selling honey. they have been to the festival for many years. very close to the shooter. you heard the description. somebody between age 25 and 35. said police got here relatively quickly and shot the suspect dead. that's something we have not heard yet from authorities. there thereby a press conference here. at this college where people have been gathering. what a situation. we'll learn more from the authorities. talking to cheryl, they really described in great te tail in terms of what they saw, and obviously could have been worse. but obviously they're very shaken up. >> right. we should be hearing from police soon. to see whether they confirm what your witness said.

that she believes the shooter was shot by authorities. that is something new we haven't heard before. so that will be interesting to follow. to your point, a man i interviewed earlier next to the shooter. on the stage. there was 100,000 people at the festival. yet, so far, the casualty numbers are low. one person dead. eleven people in the hospital. that seems like a miracle. >> it really does. and it sounds like police got to the scene very quickly. and engaged with the suspect. and as you heard shot him dead. again we need to confirm that information. the rapid police response seems to have played a major role in all of this. when you talk to witnesses one thing that is puzzling. the shooter fired one round kp there was a pause.

maybe for ten or 15 seconds and a second volley of gunfire. and within minutes police arrived and allegedly, reportedly engaged the suspect. as people started fleeing the area. tens of thousands of people at this food festival. diving under tables, getting below chairs. doing whatever they could to remain safe. >> there have been some eyewitnesss that say they felt there could have been more than one shooter. what are you mainly hearing from people? as far as whether this was a lone gunman or more. >> everybody we have talked to has given the same description. of that one shooter. somebody wearing a bald cap. bandanna and shorts. we haven't heard anybody give a second description. so that leads me to believe there's just one shooter. that's something that authorities will have to tell

us. >> what about where you are as far as the police presence? can you tell what the presence is, is there a sense there's an active search for someone under way? >> it's difficult for us to tell. we're removed from the situation. we're at the college which is a few blocks away from the festival. obviously police are over there. processing the scene. from my vantage point i can't ascertain what the presence is like. >> as far as the popularity of the festival. 100,000 people a family festival. can you give us a sense of the community of gilroy? >> this is a small community. and this is the main thing that happens in gilroy. over the summer. everybody looks forward to it. it's been happening for 41 years. and it's a food festival that

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welcome to the viewers in the united states. and around the world. we continue to track a deadly shooting in the u.s. state of california. authorities say at least one person is dead. at least 11 injured. after shots rang out at the gilroy garlic festival. south of san francisco. we're waiting for a news conference from the city officials. it's still an active crime scene and warning people to stay away. a law enforcement source telling us they have recovered a firearm. and rifle ammunition. you're about to see and hear

video from the shooting. a warning, some is disturbing. obviously confusion and disbelief there from people attending the festival. that somewhere was there shooting. the deploy garlic festival is a

food and music event popular with families. 100,000 attend every year. here's how one witness described what they saw. >> it sounded like fire crackers going off. then there's dirt pops going up in unison. i saw people covered in blood. so someone i saw they had blood splatter over them and a hand print. it was scary. i was texting my family and telling them i loved them. i had no idea what was going to happen. >> let's check in now with cnn. he is in our l.a. bureau. we have been hearing the same thing from so many people. and many of those that we have interviewed were standsing very close to the shooter. and were able to describe him. as a young man maybe between 25 and 35. that just started shooting, paused and continued. what else are you learning?

>> we try to learn more about that particular shooter. a sense of how big the park is where took place. almost 52 acres for the garlic festival. over the three days it often has more than 100,000 visitors. now we should note there are three stages. we're looking to clarify. look at terrain. it's wooded in parts. there's ball fields and horseshoe pits. three stages. you can imagine as authorities might have been looking for a shooter. they had a lot of ground to cover. you point out at cnn we have confirmation of one person killed and eleven injured. gilroy, california is between several cities in the area. san jose. 80 miles to the north of san francisco. not uncommon for people in the state to visit the festival. monterey bay not far.

extremely popular. peopling dropping from silicon valley to enjoy the event. the guy quiet and peace is shattered earlier this evening. >> the fact it's a family festival. we have been hear rg the witnesses talk about the fact that dan simon interviewed a woman who said her ten year-old granddaughter sheltered a 3 year-old. in a tent. and those are just a few of the stories that we have heard about people helping each other. that is quite tremendous a 10 year-old had the where with all to do that. the key here and what unfortunately many of us in the country are learning about what to do in the event of a mass shooting. is run. and that's what many people did. and they were fortunate to get away from what we presume is one shooter. >> that's exactly right.

as you know law enforcement still not declaring this an inactive scene. very much saying it's active. and we're waiting for word on that. and of course it's not our job sto cheer lead in stories. we're hoping there was just the one shooter and this is resolved. we don't know if that's the case. we know there was a huge response. from the medical community. not only gilroy city fire. etc. and ambulances there. cal fire jumped into the fray here with air ambulances and the victims were taken to the hospital in the area. >> paul, standby. let's talk with national security analyst. juliette. you have been listening to so many witnesses in the past two hours. talk about what they saw, what

they heard. it's amazing they can be so articulate after going through this. we heard from a woman her understanding she believes that the maybe the suspect was shot. and maybe we'll hear from the gilroy police about that. it's considered still an active scene. >> it's based on my experience because i want to be careful. a single eyewitness account that's not corroborated by the other eyewitnesss. i'll take it with grain of salt. as i have been texting with producers into the morning, the delay in the police department press conference since we went on air together at 11. means this is not settled. there's either now we have moved from the confidence for example the shooter is not in the enclosed area. maybe on the run. and preparing the public for that. and so i just cautious on that

single statement. i do think we have heard enough people describe one and only one shooter. that matters for a variety of reasons. there's rumors about a second and third shooter. we have heard a identification of one. and the shooter was white and heavily armed and possibly in camouflage. that matters if in a search stage. this is why the police department is should come out with numbers because we want to begin to assess where the reality is. and where the rumors are. you have a public that's very nervous. >> sure. the fact we hear that a rifle was recovered. how helpful is that? >> it's incredibly helpful. we have to be careful again. if a rifle has been taken -- first of all we have a make and model.

we can determine what rifle was utilized. is it legal. how was it purchased. what was the chain of custody. you have a lot by having the weapon. it may mean the assail lent got away. pretending to be a member of the public. where they drop the weapon and act like a scared public member. so that's part of the emerging theory. at least for now we don't have any proof a suspect is in apprehended. i have done this enough i'm being careful. >> three to five questions. we are planning a press conference first thing tomorrow morning. which will be pushed out social and digital media. my name is captain. >> we're getting close to a police news conference.

we'll jump in when that happens. you were talking about the benefit of the weapon being found. >> you would have a chain of custody at this stage. >> i want to express my extreme shock. and sadness for what happened today. this is an active investigation. i would ask for the thoughts and prayers of the community. as our gilroy police officers continue to investigate this tragic and senseless crime. also, our thoughts and prayers going out to the victim. and their families. we are again continuing the

investigation. we plan on being out here all night. and as was said earlier there will be another press conference tomorrow. as for the investigation continues, our local law enforcement and partners will investigate every aspect of the crime. and later you will receive additional information from the chief regarding reunification and ways for individuals to contact the city. and reconnect with their loved ones. all right, thank you. >> all right. that was the mayor of gilroy. and we're waiting to see if someone else will come to the

microphone. >> obviously this is one of the press conferences you never want to have to give in your community. sure. this is one of the press conferences you never want to give in your community. it's sort of a nightmare you hope you never have to live in reality. we find ourselves in the circumstances where we have to live this today. i'll give you brief information with the information that i have right now. we have literally dozens of officers working on this. as with e speak. a lot more information will be coming to light throughout the evening. into the morning tomorrow. as we have additional information to share we'll push

out through the social media platform. we'll set up another press conference and share that information. this incident tonight started about 5:41 p.m. there were reports of shooting on the north side of the garlic festival. area. officers were in that area. and engaged the suspect in less than a minute. the suspect was shot and killed. it appears as if though they had come into the festival by the creek which borders the parking area. they used some sort of tool to cut through the fence to be able to gain access through the secure fence line. that's how they got into the festival area itself. we have one suspect we know that is down. we have some witnesses reporting there may have been a suspect second. we don't know if that suspect

was engaged in a shooting. or whether they may have been in a support role for the person we have accounted for. we have at least 15 people injured. we have four fatalities that we know of. including the suspect. the officers that engaged this suspect obviously we have protocol to deal with for that. so the county has a protocol on dealing with officer involved shooting. that's layer of complexity with the shooting that we're investigating from the suspect. we put out a call for assistance. we had many officers in the park at the time that this occurred. as we do any day during the festival. which the accounts for the very quick response time.

when we put out the call for help. we got help from agencies across the county. and monterey county. i can't thank them enough. they came from pretty good distances to be here to help support and provide assistance with the investigation dealing with the the chaos of the scene. we have set up some things a reunification. in the panic, people go out and get different ways and families got separated. we have this area set up as an area to try to reunite families that got separated. we have a phone number for families to be able to call. and we have people staffing those phone numbers to work on the reunification process. that phone number is area code

408. 8460584. we are asking for any witnesses. because there is quite a number of people in the park. anybody that witnessed this incident. that can tell us anything. that took any photographs. that perhaps video taped anything. that might be relevant to this investigation. to please contact us. we have set up a special phone number for witnesses as well. that phone number is 4088460583. that's about what i know at this point in time. >> not certain the second suspect -- may have identified. >> we believe based on witness statements there was a second individual involved in some way. we don't know in what way.

>> do you have a description of the person? >> i do not at this point. >> motive? >> do we know anything about -- >> i don't have any information on the suspect yet. that will take a bit of time. with the victims as well. that will take time before we identify them and make family notification. >> as i said we have assistance from two counties. we have teams working to try to track down and identify leads regarding the second suspect. we're very hopeful with the witnesses and statements that people give us that will help us do that. >> do you have security cameras at the festival? >> security cameras? no. not posted.

no. >> the second person was not armed is that correct? >> we don't know the involvement. >> i don't know what the injuries are. i haven't got a report. i do know that the list they're keeping the master list was up to 15 people the last time i looked. including -- >> i have no idea what the motive is at this point. >> what did witness report seeing? suggesting there was a second shooter or someone working with the shooter? >> i'm sorry, i don't have specifics on that. other than people reported a subject leaving the area. they thought was associated with this person. >> a gilroy officer that took him out? >> it was gilroy officers that engaged the suspect, yes. >> do you have ages. >> i do not have the age range.

sorry. >> we'll get more of that. when we update tomorrow. >> i do not know. >> what type of weapon? >> he had some sort of rifle. i don't know what type of rifle it was. >> we talked to people who went to the festival. questions about security. did people have to pass through metal detecters? bag searches. >> yes. they do have to go through detectors. wands and we search bags. we have tight security to get into the festival. >> this guy got in through a fence is that correct? >> the indication initially they used a tool to cut through a fence to gain access. >> dressed as a police officer, can you verify that? >> i have not heard that.

>> it is a active scene. because of the magnitude it will continue to be active for sometime. >> eyewitness said -- >> i do not know. >> one more question. >> shooting at random? >> i don't feel comfortable making an assumption. it appears that way. at least initially. it was somewhat random. as he moved out into the festival area. i'll make that the last question. the city of gilroy is an incredible community. and we have incredible people

here. and i'm really proud to have been the chief here. and lead this force because we have such a wonderful community. and community support. i think this festival is a per perfect example of that. it takes thousands of our residents that volunteer time to put this on for people. and to raise funds for all of our community based organizations and charities and whatnot. you can't say that about a lot of communities. i think the number of people that are willing to give their time for the betterment of other people is a wonderful thing. it's just incredibly sad and disheartening that an event that is does so much good for the community, has to suffer from tragedy like this.

>> i wouldn't say that's a fair characterization. i'm going to stop now. >> good evening. i'm brian bow. executive director of the gilroy garlic festival. to reiterate what he said, gilroy is an amazing community. a tightly nit community. we are family. we have the wonderful opportunity in the community to celebrate our family through our garlic festival. and for over four decades that festival has been our annual family reunion. and it is such a sad just horribly upsetting circumstance that this happened. on the third and final day of

the festival. our 4,000 plus local volunteers work so hard every year and to have seen this event ends this way this day is just one of the most tragic and sad things i have ever had to see. we all feel so upset. for those that are impacted. friends and family, neighbors, it's a horrible thing to experience. and couldn't feel worse. our prayers go out to the friends and families and loved wins of everyone affected by this. we couldn't be more thankful for the really immediate response of the first responders. the police personnel on site.

they did an amazing job of controlling the situation as quickly as they possibly could. we thank them for that. that's about all i have to say. i'll refer questions to anyone else here. thank you very much. >> that is yet to be determined. more than likely somewhere closer to city hall. we will push that out on digital media. i want to thank you for your patience and understand the community is grieving. i mentioned earlier this is an active investigation. it's fluid. we have multiple agencies assisting us. we'll keep you updated and once we solidify the time and location. we'll put that out so we can provide you with the most current information. thank you. i appreciate your patience.

>> there you have it. the first news conference that we have had since this shooting broke out at 5:40 p.m. in california. the police chief confirming the shooter is dead. shot by gilroy police who responded within one minute. when this shooter with a rifle started spraying from the witness accounts. this crowd there. 100,000 at the festival. the other new information from the conference going in we had one person had been killed. now we know that three people have died from this. the fourth death is the shooter himself. and there are some 15 people hurt. the other thing of course they reiterated this is an active investigation. because they believe there could be another suspect someone working with the shooter, armed

or not. they don't know. accomplice. the other important information even though security was tight at the festival and fema had to go through a security system, they do believe the shooter somehow cut a fence behind the festival. and came through a creek. to gain access and be there in from of the people. let's go to law enforcement analyst. what do you make of the police response and they were able to apprehend and kill the shooter? >> law enforcement agencies throughout the united states have been training for the these moments time and time again. the immediate action of going to the threat, addressing the threat and putting it down. is what from law enforcement perspective is active shooter methodology. i want to take a step back and

say that between the event organizers and law enforcement and security, it's at a high level it seems like they had everything in place. in terms of trying to make many secure. they had bag checks and the metal detecter. pr perimeter security. they had fencing. they were going everything correct. and we still had the tragic event. which leads me to believe the motivation of the attacker to breech a the perimeter to come in through a fence line took launch and attack. this wasn't a crime of opportunity. to me this is seemingly it's more of a targeted attack. the individual was focussed on somebody or some group there. to go through all the different ways to come in and launch this attack. i just think that once we

understand who this attacker was. start looking at the social media. everything that will lead us to understand what the intent was. i think we'll find it focussed on either a small group of people or single individual that this person was focusing on. >> what makes you think that? >> again. all of the obstacles. you had a fortified event space. law enforcement on horse back, bikes. a pretty heavy law enforcement presence. that this person had to basically avoid detection. they entered in through a perimeter fencing. they were intent was to not just cause harm to the entire group. i think it was focussed. you trak that time of angst to get into an area like that. you're trying to send a signal to either a group or individual. i think that we'll as more facts

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the late es we have for you now. recapping the top story. the shooting that took place at a festival. three people are dead. we learned that moments ago. 15 injured. after a shooting there at the very large and popular gilroy garlic festival. in northern california. the police chief just announcing that they shot and killed the

suspect. however, there is a man hunt under way for a possibly second suspect. scenes emerged showing people running as soon as the shots rang out. let's go to cnn national security analyst. juliette. you were listening to the nuews conference. >> a couple things. it seems it's clear the gunman had somehow staked out the facility. or the festival. the surrounding area and the environment and including the security. he tried to get through a fence and avoid the normal security measures and came through a cutting out a fence. and clearly had staked this out and knew how to avoid early detection. the other thing i want to say, it wasn't -- if true as i believe it is from the presser, that he was brought down within a minute of the engagement. he was able to get out a lot of

shots in a very quick period of time. maybe the 17 shots, three people dead. 14 injured. maybe others we don't know about. i'm curious about the weapon and how he got it in and where he got it from. is this now one of the situations where the ability of someone to kill someone quickly is what makes our country unique. it's not handgun. this is not a handgun. something very fast was yut utilized. >> three dead in the crowd. also what are your thoughts on what he said to me about thinking that maybe this wasn't random? this was -- something more focussed. >> i think that's right. i don't know or i don't know yet if i would confirm what he said. in terms of there was a group of

people. i agree in terms of that random events are sort of you just walk down the street and shoot people. this person clearly understood the festival and security measures. what we don't know is what was the motivation for him to choose this festival. in particular. it maybe it was some group of people or person. maybe the owner. maybe the organizer. maybe the city. maybe someone that is known to the city. this city or just you have a high density of people. who are relaxed and having a dwo good time. not in a -- a casual posture. which is makes the gunshots that much more overwhelming. you heard the eyewitnesss saying you're sort of eating and listening to music. owe don't know what it is the sounds you're hearing.

>> absolutely. the chaos that happens when people who have never been in a shooting before realize they're in one. juliette, we appreciate you. and your expertise. now let's bring in charles. cnn law enforcement analyst and the former philadelphia police commissioner. so charles, weigh in on what you heard from the news conference and what we know about the shooter who apparently somehow got through fencing. maybe through a creek. to get into the crowd and start shooting. >> it sounds to me like he may have i believe this was the third day of the concert. he may very well have attended it on the first or second day. scoped out the security. looked for vulnerability and med his move and knew exactly what he was doing. this could be something that it's a large event, 100,000 or

so people over three days. that could have been all it took to choose that particular location. he could very well be from around there. i'm sure they're trying to id him if they haven't already. taken fingerprints. he might have had id on him. i doubt it. once they find out who he is, that's when they'll search his house and car. go into his social media. his entire digital footprint and may find out who the second person was. that was with him in some capacity. i would suggest for anybody watching if you were there for the first or second day and took video, let the police know. you may have actually picked this person up on video. if he did go to the site. prior to tonight. there's a lot of moving parts and they're trying to locate the second person. and id this person.

and find out all they can. they're on it. believe me they'll have more than enough help from the state and feds. and locally. thank god they had good presence there. police responded quickly. and neutralize the threat otherwise it would have been worse. >> yes. 100,000 people. update on the people who are injured or shot. now the number is 11. that's what we have now. let's talk more about the police response. because it was incredible. and they knew having so many people at a festival, that security would have to be extremely organized. one witness told us this was the first year considering the fact that the united states has an epidemic of mass shootings. they had people walk through and have their purses and backpacks searched. so it sound like they were on

top of the situation and you can see the pain from the news conference. the fact that someone infiltrated that. >> like you said the site is almost 52 acres. it's open area. three stages. it's difficult you can't have a cop every two feet. you do what you can to secure it. you have one or two points where people have to go through. you can channel them through whatever security you have. you have other people roaming. so it seems to me like they took the steps that would be reasonable. when you have a festival like this. las vegas showed us any time you have a large gathering of people the possibility of this unfortunately in today's environment is something you have to take into consideration. it's a shame but it's true. fortunately they had enough people there, very well trained. it happens across the country. on a regular basis. and they're trained to go

towards the gunfire and take out the threat. period. that's exactly what they did. >> we appreciate you being with us. and helping us sort this out. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> throughout the breaking news coverage we have been hearing from many witnesses. earlier we heard from i spoke with price. she says she was standing right next to the shooter when he began the attack. and she describes the horror. here she is. >> my family member did. i didn't. they were on top of me. it was a white male. we were located we were about 15 feet from the shooter. there was no other way to run but out. that's the way the bullets were coming our direction. >> how many bullets? how rapidly -- >> we had assault rifle. that was the a lot of bullets. they were coming in the only

reason why we're -- we heard the fire. if not we wouldn't be -- nobody but god that i'm able to even talk to you guys. we were that close to the shooter. >> how close were you? >> we were about 15 feet away from the shooter. he came right in the area where we were eating at. >> 15 feet. i'm sorry what was he wearing? >> army fatigue. >> fatigues. >> with a an assault rifle. >> did he just -- where did you -- where would he have walked out from? >> one of the venues. the eating area. there's nothing but food areas. it's like a horseshoe. where he was located he came between one of the venues and he started shooting. >> could you tell how many people he was able to shoot, any

idea? as people laid there. >> it was like 60 people that got shot. so far we have confirmed one person is dead. a lot of ambulances and helicopter waiting to take people away. that's where i'm located. across the street from the high school. >> did you see a police response? this happened so quickly. were there police on the scene? >> yeah. i was hiding with a police officer. the lady that was shot was me and the sheriff. an officer was right there. she was hiding with him. >> we know that police responded within one minute. and killed the shooter. we'll have more on this breaking news story. this shooting in california. at the very popular beloved festival. when we continue. at visionworks, we guarantee you'll see great and look great. "guarantee". we say that too. you gotta use "these" because we don't mean it.

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right now the official with the health system is talking about the injured. let's listen. >> young people to 20. somebody 50 and older. >> children? >> i don't have the specific ages at this time. >> i'll probably have more of this time. i don't know i'll get a lot more tonight. i don't think the patients situation will change tonight. anybody who is here now will stay over night. so we probably won't have another update for you until tomorrow. >> what was the last time the health care system had to work with so many patients from the mass shooting like this? >> never from mass shooting. we have had multiple patients

from other sort of emergencies. most often a hazmat incident. we get a number of patients. this is, you know, this is just a tough situation for our community. for our staff. for the families and the victims. it's just awful. and hopefully never see another one of these again. >> ready for this? >> no. we're since we're here we're emergency department and trama center. we're really well staffed to treat the most serious types of injuries. and like i said our staff did a great job of coming in our calling in to come and help. we had no delays, no staffing issues. that was all handled very well and professionally. >> specifics -- >> so often the patient who has a serious injury will be taken

to the closest hospital. and probably since we're a trama center it requires ra higher level of care. that patient will be transferred here. >> were they air lifted? >> i don't know exactly who was brought which way. we have ambulances and helicopter. >> transferred here were they at the other hospital? >> yes. two of the -- injuries the trama center treats those serious injuries. >> how many patients -- surgery. >> i don't have the exact count. of how many went into surgery. >> transfer anymore? >> we do not. if someone had needed serious injury they would have been transferred earlier. i think we got what we'll get from st. louis. >> does that suggest -- they had

to come here? >> no, they treated three patients of gunshots. treated and two have been discharged. >> so it probably wasn't as serious an injury. great team down there. they're part of the community. it's been particularly hard for them tonight. anything else? like i said this is probably it for tonight. nothing will really change. so we'll eertd do stand up or statement. we'll let you know tomorrow what we're going to do. >> people are currently here right now and when -- how many. >> so medical center currently has six patients. seven earlier tonight. one has been discharged. st. louis got a total of six

gunshot wounds patients. two transferred here. part of the count. three were treated at the hospital. two of those three have been in addition, they got another eight patients that were not gunshot wounds, that had other kinds of injuries. >> joy, this is the first big situation since you guys are controlling st. louise. >> yeah. >> has it worked better since they were separate? >> you know, we bring a lot of -- the county brings a lot of resources and help, and some of our staff went down there to help, and also just easier -- i mean, it would always be easier for any hospital to transfer to our trauma center. that would be the case for any hospital in our community. so that's not really any different. but i think just the support and, you know, the -- any help that they may need. but they really handled this

quite well. you know, like i said, they were part of that community. that was really hard for them tonight. >> communication any easier when it's your people? >> i don't know. we have go systems of communication. we also train and drill for, you know, regionally and for the area hospitals together, you know? maybe not all of the hospitals in the county, but, you know, over time we've probably trained with a number of them. so i think -- i think more the support than anything that they needed, you know, maybe we could get to them a little faster. i don't think they needed much. i think they did really well. >> again, they initially got six and you got three of those six. >> we got two of those six. >> you are watching a mini press conference at the santa clara valley medical center there. >> all right. that was an official with the santa clara -- that was an official with the santa clara health system. again, talking about the fact that there are 11 people who have been shot. one person has been killed.

they have -- two have been discharged. and she said the ranges of the people who were shot range from about 25 years old to someone in their 50s. and she talked about how this community has pulled together and rallied around the people that need help and someone else is now on the phone with us who did that as well. sidney is joining us. sidney, i'm told you were not at the festival but that you live in gilroy and you decided to help people by giving people rides. tell us what you did. >> hi. yes, i live around the area, less than a mile from the event, and immediately was called and asked if i was there and then promptly heard that there was a shooting, and so i -- first thing i thought of was that people come from out of town and they're bussed in from parking lots into the festival, and i couldn't imagine what that would be like during a shooting, having to kind of escape that and get back to your car. so i just jumped in my car and

decided to drive around the perimeter to see if anyone needed a lift to their car in the area or lived in the town and needed to be taken home. >> so how many did you help? i mean, how did that work out? >> well, i -- i saw a lot of people drive up to the perimeter before the entrance because the police did a great job of kind of setting a boundary where people could go in and out. and i just saw a lot of concerned faces. and i was asking around. and fortunately a lot of people actually lived there, so they were able to be home, but i came across a group of people around my age, around 22 years old. i was just -- asked them, do you guys need a ride to your car? and they said, no, we live in the town, but can you take us to the nearby high school, which is kind of a little bit a ways from the park. two young individuals got into my car, a man and a woman, and the young man in my front seat was basically just frantic in saying that he got -- i didn't

understand what he said by that. did you see anything? and he basically just said that he saw a man jump over the fence. he even went to describing what the gun looked like. i'm not familiar with guns so i don't know exactly what he said. he said he had an extended magazine and that -- i asked him how old he must -- was. he said he was around 30 years old from what he could see. that he was running and it was very hard to grasp all of this. he was very frantic, saying i got hit in the leg. i don't want to put my foot down. i got nicked in my leg. i have a hole in my shorts. i ended up taking him to the local high school where he was meeting his father. >> that's wonderful that you just jumped in your car, you're 22 years old and headed towards the scene to help people. that's really remarkable. sidney, thanks so much for talking to us. joining us on the phone is an eyewitness to the shooting. where were you and what did you see? >> well, when he started

shooting, when i saw him he was about 15 to 20 feet from me. he came around from the end of the food vendor tents between the tents and a large inflatable slides where there were a lot of kids playing on it. he started shooting. just looked like the average guy. you know, he was white, about in his 30s, under 6 feet. he was wearing, like, tactical gear. had a baseball cap on. sunglasses. and he had a semiautomatic rifle. and he was just shooting left to right, right to left. >> what was his demeanor? could you read anything on his facial expression? >> he seemed serious. he didn't look angry. i mean, he was wearing the hat and glasses, so expression wasn't really something i could read on his face, but he seemed like he was very well-versed in what he was doing.

he moved tactically. he seemed, like, very confident in his use of the gun. and he was -- he was dressed for what he was there to do. >> what did you do at that time? did you run? >> when i first heard the shots, they were coming from behind the tent i was standing in front of, the food tent, and i started backing up because i wasn't sure what that sound was. i thought it was fireworks for a moment. and i realized it's still daytime, they're not fireworks. so i kind of started running away and i hid behind a different tent where there were merchants, but i could still see over the edge of the tent. he was just shooting left to right. >> it's really remarkable all the people that almost came face-to-face with this shooter and they still got away. you're one of them. we're very happy for you. we know this must be a difficult time. thank you for talking with us. so just to reiterate with our viewers, the shooter is dead.

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