thank you. i'm chris cuomo. the latest democrat to get noticed for exposing vulnerability in another democrat. senator kamala harris did not have the best answers to the charges last night but she's bringing the heat now to her opponent. the 2020 hopeful is here to discuss senator harris' record and her own. we also have the candidate, andrew yang, he is their talk about the claim it's too late to change the climate and what he sees that no other candidate does. and are democrats making choices now that will help them or hurt

them in the general? the wizard of oz has numbers that should stop the democrats in their tracks. the president's campaign, already picking up on a mistake, developing tonight. let's get after it. senator kamala harris said she was not surprised by anything that came her way last night. not even this? >> she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. she blocked evidence -- she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. she kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of california. and she fought to keep cash bail system in place. that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. >> harris may not have been

surprised by the specific accusations but she didn't have specific replies. and gabbard didn't make those up. it was written by somebody who used to work with senator harris. how did it work out? that situation you could argue made tulsi gabbard the most googled candidate during the second debate. it also made gabbard a target herself. good to have you on prime time. >> aloha. good to talk to you. >> i want to talk about how you took and why you seemed obviously dissatisfied with the senator's answers last night. what you think the state of play is after last night for you and the other democrats. i want to clear something up. you need to acknowledge that bashar al assad is a murderous decemb despot. i don't understand why you didn't give that answer last

night. >> well, first of all, let's talk about what you're addressing here. and i don't dispute anything that you're saying there. he's a brutal dictator. just like saddam hussein. just like gadhafi in libya. the reason that i'm so outspoken on this issue of ending these wasteful regime change wars is because i have seen first hand this high human cost of war and the impact that it has on my fellow brothers and sisters in uniform. you know, chris, i respect you because you've spent a lot of time throughout your career shining a light on the challenges that veterans face when they come home. i will do anything and everything that i possibly can to stop sending our men and women in uniform into harm's way, fighting in these wasteful koirnl productive wars. >> the notion deserves nothing but respect. nothing but respect. i'm not disputing that. >> here's what i'm asking you. >> even if -- let me finish. >> finish your point, please.

>> it is central to the question that you're asking. i will never apologize to anyone for doing all that i can to prevent more of my brothers and sisters in uniform from being sent boo harm's way to fight in these wasteful regime change wars even if it means meeting with a brutal dictator, focused on that objective. keeping the american people safe. making sure my brothers and sisters in uniform are honored by only being sent on missions that are worthy of their sacrifice and making it so we stop wasting trillions of our. at a pair dollars on more of these wasteful wars when they are so needed. right here at home right here to address the essential and urgent needs of people in our communities. like those here in detroit. >> i take issue with none of that. none of it. do not make any other assumptions about anything. i'm talking about one specific thing. all of that is completely valid and does not need any benefit on bashar al assad. i don't o'your website, i don't

understand why you have information there that questions the notion that assad is responsible for things that the u.s. intel and the united nations intel believe he's responsible for. you don't need to defend him to make your argument. i don't understand. >> i've never defended. i've never defended assad. >> it questions the legitimacy of the attacks. >> what you're referring to are cynicisms, a skepticism that i have expressed because i've served in a war that was caused by people who lied to us. >> yes. >> who lied to the american people. >> understood. >> who presented false evidence that members of congress and u.s. senators believed and voted for a war that resulted in the loss of lives of over 4,000 of my brothers and sisters in uniform. the very first thing i did every single day when i served in iraq in that field medical unit during the height of that war in 2005 was go through a list name by name of every american casualty and injury that had

occurred in the previous 24 hours. i know the cost war in a way that none of those other people on that stage last night can understand. so yes. i will always ask the tough questions. i will ask for the evidence. and as we're seeing, evidence is constantly coming through. it is our responsibility as lawmakers and leaders in this country to make sure that our u.s. military is not being activated and deployed to go to war unless we are certain, a. that it serves the west interests of the american people. and b, that that action will actually have a positive impact. true. that's why we argue on this show all the time. i would argue what's on the website isn't just raising questions. it is speculating in a way that isn't based by fact. we've discussed that and i don't want to spend all the time on it. we argue on this show all the time. >> let me just appointment out two quick things on that. >> go ahead. >> can i point you to two quick things. there was a report that was recently sent out from the opcw.

the u.n.'s organization responsible for investigating incidents of chemical weapons attacks that brings into light a lot of different evidence that wasn't previously report. and secondly, there is a professor from m.i.t. who has also been an expert in missile attacks and chemical weapons, who has also shed a lot of light on this. >> they've raised questions about the dynamics. nobody has exonerated assad. let me ask you something else, congresswoman. why do you think senator harris didn't have specific responses for you last night and what do you think last night means to you going forward? >> that's a great question that i wish someone would ask senator harris. >> if she comes on the show, i'll ask her. i promise. as soon as she's here, you'll be the first to know. >> i believe that you will. she didn't give any answers. not just to me but the american people last night on the debate stage. the interviews that she had after the debate, she again refused to address this record that she had as attorney

general, that she claims to be so proud of. a lot of concerns and a lot of issues raised there. this isn't personal. this is really about making sure the american people have the truthful because that's what this process is all about. it is about understanding how critical the decision is that's before us and the kind of leadership that we seek to bring. >> do you think she has good answers? >> if she has, she failed to present them. the answers she's chosen to give has nothing to do with it. she will not address the concerns raised regarding her record that she's said she's proud of that has caused more pain and suffering to people in california. instead of using the position of power, to be that force for positive change to be a champion for the people she claims to be. instead, she used to it further oppress people in an already broken criminal justice system. the only response i've heard her and her campaign give is to push

out smear attacks on me. claim that i am some kind of foreign agent or a traitor to my country. the country that i love. the country that i put my life on the line to serve. the country that still serve today as a soldier in the army national guard. >> i've seen what's out there and what propaganda is being put out about what connections and who likes you. i don't give it any attention because i don't think it warrants it. but i will fight out the facts and the invitation always stands. before anything else, this show thanks you for your service. we know what it means. >> thank you. >> i didn't have it in me to do what you did and i appreciate it and i respect your devotion to the others in uniform. thank you. i look forward to seeing you again. >> thank you. likewise. >> be well. now, andrew yang. he's also an outsider fighting his way in. he's doing it a different way and it is really interesting how we saw in the last two days a new trend. these 2020 democrats are not just going after each other like

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asked. for example, we knew the former vp would be the target. it makes sense, right? he's up in front. even joe biden was thrown by how many candidates went after the former president. >> i must tell you, i was a little surprised how much incoming there was about barack obama. about the president. i'm proud to have served with him. i'm proud of the job he did. i don't think there's anything he has to apologize for. >> now, look, to us it doesn't matter if he has things to apologize for. this isn't about president obama being flawless. it is about what it does to democrats to go down this road. let's bring in the wizard of odds who has a bit of a warning. what do you see, wiz? >> there are some times, i'm in new york. i'm not amazed by a lot of things. the fact that democrats are attacking mr. obama's legacy. it's flames. >> why?

>> do you have a favorable or unfavorable view? 95% have a favorable view of him, christopher. this is a very popular guy. >> nobody calls me christopher. he's the only person in the party who comes close to the popularity that this president has in his party. >> he's more popular. >> so what does it mean? >> it means you're attacking someone a lot of democrats love. look at this among black democrats. we've talked about joe biden and how he seems to be leading african-american voters. over 50%. views of obama among registered black democratic voters. 99% favorable. 0% unfavorable. unsure, 1%. you can't be more liked than this. when i see the democrats on that stage seeming to attack his legacy, i go to myself, of course joe biden is leading among those candidates. he is the only one defending him

and that's why he's in the lead right now. this is another way of looking it a. this is a choice for the democratic nominee. they asked how important do you think it is to build on obama's legacy? among those who say it is very important, this is where joe biden's lead is coming from. he's at 44% among those voters. no one else is even close. among those who think it is not important to build on obama's legacy, biden is down to 25%. this is group powering joe biden's lead. they're going to have to figure out a way that they can attack him and not be seen as attacking obama's legacy. >> is this across all the key places or just a pocket of support? >> no. this is -- >> we look at other states. >> this is key. we're talking about the primary, chris. we're talking about the primary. it is key for the general election. remember, if you win a primary, you still have to go out there and win a general election. among registered voters, all of

them in the key swing states. look tiflt obama, 57% favorable rating. this is the type of guy you can bring in, use him in the circuit. and there are a lot of people there who voted for donald trump who think the democrats are too far to the left and he's the guy who can indicate that he's not too far to the left. you're not just hurting yourself among democrats. you're hurting yourself in the key states. >> the truth is in the numbers. at least the risk is in the numbers. it's not about an opinion. >> it is all about the numbers. i don't give you opinions. i give you facts. >> all right. let's take to it some democrats. do they really think that trashing their party's last president, look, go back and look. that's the way to depict it. is that the way to re-win the white house? let's have a great debate with these two handsome jents next.

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especially last night in the cnn debate. that race is not going to be just a referendum on president

trump. it is also one on barack obama. this race. the issue of race also came up last night and it's being used a lot before they ever get any closer to the man they say they need to confront about the issue of race. let's debate this idea. okay? what was going on last night with president obama? what was going on in house with the use of race? what does it mean for the general? thank you to my guests. great to be with you in detroit. so ordinarily i would say attack the premise. not tonight because i know i'm right. they were going after this last night. the play is this. let's start with going after obama's legacy. how does that help you people in the general? >> right. so first thing we have to do is distinguish between a right wing attack against obama and a left wing critique. the right wing did crazy things. they said that he saluted with coffee in his hand. he put mustard on his burger.

he was not born in this country. all lunatics. so a left wing critique on the other hand says he was a good manager and if you ask me in a poll favorable or unfavorable, i say favorable. could he have done better? yes. he could have done better on the bankruptcy of the with the press that he used the espionage. that was terrible. the drone strikes. >> they didn't bring those up. they said deportations. taking down incarceration of blacks. i don't know. it wasn't that good. but that you know somewhere, president trump and some of his people were smiling and saying, i can't wait until they say that to us. >> well, first and foremost, we were in detroit, michigan yesterday, or this morning. we were about 15 miles away from where the gm plant was ratchet go down. we know it is eliminating 14,000 jobs and already eliminated 8,000 more. we can talk about, foss blame. the reason to blame is donald trump. we do know what barack obama did. we know that barack obama saved

the auto industry. we know that he led the economic recovery. we know that he began the first steps of criminal justice reform. >> but he was hit over the head last night. about deportation and mass incarceration. what does that say in the general? >> no one hit him over the head over mass incarceration. no one trashed the president of the united states. no one trashed barack obama. what did happen last night was there were distinctions made between joe biden's record and everybody else on stage. what you're seeing right now, what this argument is all over, for the last eight years, joe biden was vice president to barack obama. joe biden uses barack obama as a shield. >> and everyone on that stage loved barack obama and now they're talking like they got perspective. >> no, no, no. we still do. we cannot talk about the last eight years of the administration and critique what we felt fast some of the things could have been made better. we can't citizen teak previous 40 years.

what can we talk about? this is a primary. >> you want to talk about the difference between a circular primary squad which was what obama was worried about in critiquing. bounce back to you. you go after joe biden time and time again. you're not a bigot but -- look what you did, look what you did. how does it not do two potential things, one, fatigue the issue. it all matters. the people you noted to dissuade, if they hear about it for the next eight months while you fight within your party, what appetite will they have? and you say, you call everybody a racist. you call everybody the person in front of me. everybody is a racist. how does that help you? >> well, i love you. i love you. you're wrong. >> your love hurts. >> no one out there is calling joan joe biden a racist. >> there is no one out there who has ever said that he was a

racist. >> did you all these things bad for black people. >> he did. those are bad policy prescriptions. and yes, barack obama chose him to be the vice president. that does not whitewash anything did he before that. we can critique that. barack obama took amazing steps. if joe biden wants to talk about being part of those steps, about the 21st policing. he will have to talk about his record. if cory booker has to stand up there and defend his record in newark. >> and he does. >> if kamala harris has to defend her record in california -- >> and she does. and didn't do a great job about that last night. >> then joe biden has to defend not just his past record but the previous 40. i was barack obama's co-chairperson in 2008 in south carolina. this is no greater fan of barack obama than i. to act as if we cannot have friendly family discussions or differences on how we'll build on his legacy -- >> that wasn't family and it

wasn't friendly. >> there is a difference between kamala harris and cory booker's critique, and the progressive critique of joe biden and barack obama. look. on the one hand joe biden hides behind barack obama way too much. let's keep it real. obama did not pick biden because he was great on african-american issues. he picked him to feel white voters. we keep glossing over that. in terms of kamala harris, i don't think she has a leg to stand on. when biden criticized her and booker on criminal justice reform, he was right. but they were writing their critique. none of them had done any good. he had done criminal justice reform recently. now they say they're not taking

corporate money. that's why kamala harris did not have a good record. >> i hear. i'm not saying it is not a metaphor issue for security felt all over this country. but you know this president won't fight you man for plan fighting on politics. i don't get talking on a granular level about plans no one thinks you'll be able to implement way and then you have kamala harris who cannot peick plan and doesn't defend it that well. how does this set up for the general? >> this is a battle of ideas. i love that they're having this debate. i don't mind the john delaneys of the world who say we shouldn't do it. at least he's up front about it. i think this is the chance to do single payer democrats. >> then say it and stop it. >> you guys are talking about

it. >> let's do it now. >> all of this is speculative. >> chris, no. your premises are all over the place. first you say we're attacking barack obama. >> you were. >> and then you make this false argument that hsiao kamala harris hasn't picked a plan and we don't have a plan. >> she hasn't. >> first, those are two different things and that's not true. the fact is this is what happens. she actually chose a man that builds on obamacare. to say that we're spitting in the face of barack obama. the person who has endorsed the man was the chief architect. >> get website out? >> are you going to -- is that the biggest problem? is that your only issue with the affordable care act? i have like 11. >> but the greatest issue about obamacare, what we have gotten, there are 85 to 90% of the country are covered. are insured. people with pre-existing conditions now can get

insurance. what people are talking about on that stage, what kamala harris is talking about on that staining, is making sure that everyone has access to care. so to sit here on the one hand and say we're bad-mouthing barack obama, but talk about we had an entire debate centering on the fact we want to build on his legacy is uneven at best. let me say this. barack obama got the first and second highest vote totals in the history of the united states. number three was hillary clinton. no one is bashing either one of those individuals. we are talking about the future. this is 2020. not 2008. we want to build on that and be bigger, better, badder. >> i like what you're saying and i didn't hear enough of it last night. you can debate it and then audience understand the ideas. >> sellers 2020. >> hey! listen. the need is great. thank you for making the

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i would argue to you that one of the more memorable

moments last night came from a hit not at another candidate but aimed at how we pick a president. listen to this. >> do you know what the talking heads couldn't stop talking about after the last debate? not the fact that i'm somehow number 4 on the stage in national polling. it was the fact that i was not wearing a tie. we're up here with make-up on our faces and our rehearsed attack lines, playing roles on this reality tv show. >> that's andrew yang. he may have the best group following. feel the burn is good. we know it. the yang gang is how people are known backing yang. especially online. he's an outsider to the process but not to success in this country. let's bring his success on to prime time. good to see you, mr. yang. i see you don't have a tie. let's take a commercial break so you can put one on. i'm kidding. what's behind the critique? your frustration with the process. spell it out to the people watching. what do you think is counter productive? >> well, i was on the stage last night and i like most americans

could have predicted where the attacks would come from and who they'll be lobbied against. you notice that no candidate ever attacks someone below them in the poes. it's not like people were throwing rocks at michael bennet. you're throwing rocks at the people ahead of you because everyone saw the success that senator harris had against joe biden in the last debate. so there is a dynamic that unfortunately gets set up. that we're like characters in a play and we have to follow it. >> so how do you change something that i believe is an opportunism based on human nature. negativeivity works in campaigns. people seem to want to know, what's wrong that yang? right? you know the more noticed you get, the more people come at you. that a piece about you that's positive is seen as puff and a piece against you is seen as good journalism.

how do you change that? >> i'm still at a point where americans are just getting to know me. i'm happy to say last night was a great opportunity to introduce myself. we received over half a million in individual donations just from last night to right now. so i'm still making a very positive case to the american people. i would relevant tish day when i become such a big deal that other candidates start throwing rocks at me. >> be careful what you wish for. let's look at the flip side of what made you popular. two of my three kids cried themselves to sleep because they believed the world would be on fire in 15 minutes because it is too late to stop climate change. did you go too far in that assessment? >> i was just telling it like it is. the fact is that we are 15% global emissions. >> but it's not too late. >> if we go to half, we're still only going to slow it down. the study came out the other day that showed that greenland, the ice pack is melting at the rate

predict to be in 2070. 50 years from now. so we're way ahead of whatever the projections were and we need to tone fact the last four years have been the warmest years ever. i'm sorry about your kids. i have young kids, too. >> i'm just messing with you. my kids don't pay any attention. the problem is you'll try to persuade people to care about something that not enough people in our country do. including our president. he treats it like a joke. so if you don't give them an aspirational sems of what can be achieved, are not you shooting yourself in the foot as far as getting anything done? >> well, my campaign is built around telling it like it is. i wish i had better news to report. i wish i could say, if we get our act together, we'll reverse climate change. everybody will be for us what it will be for our kids. that's not what the facts are saying. we keep saying we'll turn it around as far as our energy

composition and our carbon emissions and we haven't demonstrated we can do it within our own borders, much less in developing countries where you know they'll choose the cheapest, dirtiest forms of energy. >> fair point. not very optimistic and usually politicians are in the business of persuasion but you are not a politician. so i'll take that one. you have a dour view of what we can do about climate change. you believe $12,000 in people's pocket will be revolutionary in terms of changing their lives. it seems like too little and too simplistic. how is it not? >> well, a lot of people don't live where you and i live. a thousand dollars a month would be huge for many people who are living in ohio or michigan or iowa or new hampshire. these other places that i've been campaigning these past weeks and months. and 78% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

40% plus say they can't afford unexpected $400 bill. so if you had 1,000 a month coming in, then your head would come up. the boot would be off your throat. >> is that american? is that capitalist? which is supposedly what we're all about? >> this is a deeply american idea from thomas payne to martin luther king to elon musk. and i'm a capitalist myself. businesses perform better, markets perform better and people perform better if there is money to spend in consumers' hands. >> so you think it is worth government capital. that it wouldn't just be the indiana to right to far right nightmare. this is ultimate socialist principle. this is why we can't go near anyone on the left. >> one state that has had a dividend for almost 40 years and it is has has. a deep red state. it was passed by a republican

governor. there are many people who love this. what they detest is the government. they like economic independence and people making their own decisions. >> if it doesn't work out for you as a candidate, would you consider a job in the administration? >> my goal with this run is to solve the real problems that are facing your kids, my kids. it is 2019. our economy is being transformed before our eyes in addition to the climate. i will do anything in my power to help solve these problems. whether as president or some other capacity. >> as we see in the current administration, we need people who know what the heck they are doing. andrew yang. thank you for being provocative. it was needed on the stage last night. you are welcome on the show to talk about the ideas that matter to the american people. >> i will see knew new york soon. thank you so much. >> done. bring a tie. just kidding. i wear the same one every night. who am i to tell you? we have something really stunning to show you.

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way to catch fish and it's a real stunner. >> look at all that cuckoo carp. they're using shocking boats to stun an actual serious situation. an invasive species of asian carp. they don't belong there. they're dominating food source. they're changing all these bacteria levels. changing the oxygen levels and they literally don't know how to cut down in the population and protect the fishing industry so they're doing this. d lemon. did you see the video? >> i saw it. i've seen the video and i've seen them do it before. but i mean, they're like down south. they take over everything. like when you put bamboo in your yard. they just take over. >> sometimes they fly and they can even hurt people. they can break bones. when i saw it, finally i found a way to catch a fish. >> every time i go fishing with you, we catch a fish.

>> i just lost a fish in the boat. it was about not having enough help. >> they are good. they do eat algae. >> too many of them. >> they're destroying the waterways down south. it has to do with my folks down there who are trying to, i think they were trying to feed salmon or something. i read it. but it is overtaking the population of the waterways. as we were getting ready for the debate, i saw you getting ready for mario. i'm spending time with my kid. check him out. he's here in the studio. >> where is he? >> there he is. he's right here. >> is that the one they have to put down? >> no. this is boomer. the trainer says they need some time apart because too much togetherness. so papa has barkley and i have boomer here. >> when they don't respect the alpha there's disorder in the home. >> there is uncle chris.

go bite him. >> that dog bit my mother. >> did not. he did not. boomer! >> my mother is in the car. d lemon comes out of the house with that dog and the other one. it jumps into my '69 fire bird which is a capital offense and immediately jumps on my mother and bites her. see? >> we've got leon castro coming up. a lot of the stuff that happen on the stage and about obama's legacy and why are they running away from it? is it a good or a bad idea? remember when gore did that with clinton, it didn't serve him well. >> do you know what was a going idea? having you on the stage. you did us proud and i was proud at your friend. >> i love you, buddy. >> the dog is a bite risk. won't be around long. i'm just kidding. >> we'll come back with the closing. all over the country, i'm so lucky to get the exposure, detroit or the radio show or here or social media. you have all the same questions after these last two debates. i don't have the answers. but i know who has to answer

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so, this is for you out there watching the debates. by all accounts you've been left with more questions than answers. on the streets of detroit, online, on my radio show on sirius xm, all across this country democrats and just voters seeking better pepper me with the same questions. so i will now put them to those who are on that debate stage these past two nights because these questions are for them to answer. so, first, do you get what this election is about? here's a hint. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, i assume, are good people. >> you also had people that were

very fine people, on both sides. >> us and them. who we are. who we are not. what we include. what we exclude. another hint, it will not be most detailed health care plan wins. >> giant corporations and billionaires are going to pay more. middle class families are going to pay less out of pocket for their health care. >> under our plan, we will ensure that everyone has access to health care. your plan, by contrast, leaves out almost 10 million americans. >> my plan makes a limit of co-pay to be $1,000. because we further support the -- the ability to buy into the obamacare plan. >> hasn't this president made it painfully obvious that he ain't here to compare plans? he said he won't even release his health care plan until after the 2020 election.

medicare for all as an issue for voters, take a look at the poll. in-party it's popularish, but this is the whole country. so i'm not arguing that plans don't matter. of course not. plans matter, but not as much as it matters to connect with people on the concern and anxiety that drives the need for plans to fix what ailes them. are plans as compelling as feeling people's pain? you know, like clinton, like obama. they weren't detailed plan guys. remember the vision thing? next. when did you decide that attacking a president was a good idea but that president should be obama? almost more so than the president you will face, the one you all call a criminal and a pathological liar. >> first of all, mr. vice president, it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and one of us hasn't.

>> you invoke president obama more than anybody in this campaign. you can't do it when it's convenient and dodge it when it's not. >> castro worked for him. booker used to call him, like, his best buddy all the time. and, look, here's what's more important than the hypocrisy of it. president obama is the only one of you who matches this president in party popularity. he actually beats trump. so what do you gain by going at president obama? you think that you'll weaken biden enough to justify how much you piss off democrats and empower this president to use the same attacks against whichever of you comes through? and when you weren't going at obama, you were going at each other in ways that brought you down and gave an opening to your opponent. candidates attacking biden for deportations, trump smiles. all of these implicit and explicit accusations that biden has issues with race.

listen. >> this is one of those instances where the house was set on fire and you claimed responsibility for those laws, and you can't just now come out with a plan to put out that fire. >> trump smiles. now, of course the issue in so many of its manifestations of race and race inequity matters. the question is, are you using it where and when it will count? now, here's the premise. if you're not, aren't you risking that by the time one of you gets to confront this president about his clear and present problems with division, the people that you'll need to convince may be sick of hearing about it. and you are again allowing this president to point the finger back at his accuser and say one of two things. you accuse everyone of this. or your own people said this about you. are you architecting with your salvos now something that will enable this save later?

>> everybody's called a racist now. the word is so overused, it's such a disgrace. and i can tell you i'm the least racist person there is in the world, as far as i'm concerned. >> as far as he's concerned. now, what was the percentage in this attack line from senator gillibrand? >> mr. vice president, you didn't answer my question. what did you mean when you said when a woman works outside the home it's resulting in, quote, the deterioration of family. >> no -- >> it got the senator attention and of course empowering women matters, but did it really elevate her or the issue? does anyone really think joe biden, who is married to a phd, who works, obviously, is somehow about women staying in the kitchen? did the debate stage really benefit from the force of a clarification from a parsed 1981 op-ed? and what did it cost? you once again gave another

arrow to someone whom you say is a misogynist. you must answer these questions because the debates did not. do the people you want to impress know a little bit more or better how you size up stylistically? perhaps. but do the people you want to lead, to serve, did you give them a reason to believe that you offer something better versus more of the same? the answers will mean everything. and, remember, it's not about me asking. this country is desperate for the right responses. who has them? we still don't know. but i know this, thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> thank you, sir. that was very good. i was sitting there on the stage with all of them wondering, i'm like -- wow, why are they attacking the former president? and all i could think about was clinton and gore. clinton, gore, clinton, gore and what lessons were learned.

but, listen, that wasn't for me. i was sitting there wondering why they were doing it. >> you gave them the opportunity. >> right. >> you outlined the issues. you kept them on task. that was your job. >> yeah. >> their job was to turn that opportunity into an authentic appeal to people that they have a reason to believe that he or she will take them to a better place. >> you asked a very good question when you said, do you understand what's at stake? because for me it was kind of like, you know, this whole thing is kind of like the hunger game, right? everyone's clamoring to be on top, but every election is like that. we saw it in 2016. >> especially primaries. >> you know, it's like that. but when you have -- when you have something at stake that you feel, and i'm speaking for them not for me, but they have said that they think that trump is an existential threat. if you think that trump is the existential threat, why are you tearing each other down? i can understand that to some extent, but the bigger question is, why are you tearing down the most liked person in your party right now?