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very unfairly by the lame stream media rather than going through months of slander, i explained to john how miserable it would be for him and his family to deal with these people. john is therefore decided to stay in congress where he's done an outstanding job representing the people of texas, and our country. i will be announcing my nomination for dni shortly. the president wants you to believe his candidate is perfect for the job, totally qualified. it's just the awful mean reporters will be tough on him and they will slander and liable him and he repeated that argument on his way to his country club in new jersey. >> i felt that congressman ratcliff was being treated very unfairly. i was reading the press, and i think i am a student of the press, and i could see that the press was treating him i thought very unfairly. he's an outstanding man. i asked him, do you want to go through this for two or three

months or maybe do something else? and he thought about it. i said it's going to be rough. i could see exactly where the mno kidding.rd. but moving your internet and tv? that's easy. easy?! easy? press is going, and fake news. easy. because now xfinity lets you transfer he's a fine man. your service online in just about a minute with a few simple steps. really? really. he's a fine man, and so we hadn't started the process. that was easy. yup. plus, with two-hour appointment windows, i thought it's easier before we it's all on your schedule. awesome. start but i read things that now all you have to do is move...that thing. [ sigh ] were just unfair, and he's just introducing an easier way to move with xfinity. too good. he doesn't deserve it. it's just another way we're working to make your life simple, easy, awesome. >> he's just making it up as he go to xfinity.com/moving to get started. goes along and when he pauses, he throws in the fake news because he needed a second to think about what else to say. this is the old blame the media game. the oldest, lamest game in the book. he's so good he can't stand up to reporters looking in the background and claims he made which okay, seem to be false. by the way, cnn sources who have spoken with the president say he has in recent days actually privately voiced concern about to get on the next democratic debate stage new

congressman ratcliff's confirm houston, fundraisers have to meet polling thresholds, ability. the congressman has limited intelligence in the field, that was well-known. wefr nol ofrl had six months on the committee has no experience whatsoever at any one not on the stage in detroit of the agencies he would be overseeing. is congressman tom steyer. he did serve 14 months as a u.s. certainly wants to be next in california is billionaire tom steyer. attorney back in texas but what he declared his presidential may have been an even bigger factor in the pull back or as we candidacy after months of television campaigning to mentioned, serious doubts impeach president trump and saying initially he wouldn't be running himself. surrounding claims that congress i spoke with mr. steyer before air time. himself has made about his own past. mr. steyer, you saw the he says he put terrorists in democratic debates this week i assume. prison, a cnn search of terror-related cases fails to the candidates on the stage did spend a lot of time going after show any the congressman himself each other instead of taking on president trump. actually prosecuted. i'm wondering does that strategy weaken the eventual nominee and lead to president trump winning? did you make of it? obviously, one goes to his office and says okay, can you give us examples? >> well, anderson, my argument all along has been that we have his office failed to offer any a broken government and that we examples of evidence. need to return that government from the corporations who bought it to the american people. he also claims on his congressional biography and you so when i listened to those can see it there that he quote debates, what i'm listening for arrested 300 illegal aliens, his is somebody that will practically tell me how we're words in a single day. going to do that so we'll be able to deliver those promises in fact, the what he's referring people are making about health to but doesn't mention, he's care and green new deal and

referring to is a multi state education and i didn't hear that operation not the work of some vision of how we're going to deliver for the american people lone u.s. attorney on the boarder arresting folks, a multi in reality during those debates. i did hear a lot of criticism on state operation that resulted in each other and of president 45 undocumented workers being obama. >> when you hear candidates talk charged by his office, six of about taking away private whom had their cases dismissed. insurance from 160 million quoting now from a reseventh washington post investigation. americans, is that something you a spokeswoman in an el paso think democrats can win on? office that participated in the operation questioned ratcliff's >> anderson, i do believe that operation in the role of the health care is a right for every arrest quoting that spokesperson american and that we should have a public option that is available to every american from i.c.e., no, that doesn't sound factual. citizen. that sounds incorrect she told but the idea of telling 150 "the washington post." in fact, she said she doesn't million americans who get their health care through their even remember the congressman employment that they don't have saying quote, name doesn't ring a bell. a choice but to do what the clearly, fine man as the government tells them about president describes him or not, their health and life, doesn't this was a nominee with problems seem to make any sense to me. for one of the most important i mean, this is still a free country. jobs to the safety and security of the country. what we should do is make the public option so attractive and they were all notable problems, so relatively inexpensive that the kind that usually come out people petition their employers during a thorough vetting that a position like this demands. that go on the public option and you vet the candidate. get a big raise as a result of

according to cnn's jim acosta the public employer no longer paying for health care. that is what congressman >> will you be on the stage at ratcliff did not get, a vetting. the next debate? will you be able to get there? >> yes, yes, i am. some kind of vetting was done >> what is the status of that? when he was previously considered for attorney general but not enough. do you have a sense of how far the president was asked about you are from that? vetting today on the south lawn >> i'm not following it day to and you got to listen to his answer. day but i know there are two i mean, as you listen to it, requirement, anderson. one is to have four polls at a think about the president's certain level and within two prior remarks about how unfair he thinks the press is for weeks, we had two of those four and we'll see some more polls come out this week. investigating this and revealing those unsettling facts about his now former nominee. but so far, my message seems to be being received better than i >> well now you vet for me. i like when you vet. hoped so we'll see how the polls no, no, you vet. go but better than expected and i think the white house has a if we keep going at the level in great vetting process. you vet for me. terms of donations that we're when i give a name, i give it at, we'll make it there, as well. we have to do work. out to the press and you vet for we're not going to stop working me. but we're on track to make it. a lot of times you do a very good job, not always. >> would you -- obviously, you thought about i assume when you watch the debate, you imagine i think the white -- well, if yourself on them and think what you look at it, i mean, if you would my strategy be here? take a look at it, the vetting process for the white house is very good but you're part where would you -- where do you

see yourself in this field? i give out a name to the press and they vet for me. i mean, if you believe in a we save a lot of money that way. >> and there it is, there it is, spectrum of a left progressives folks. and centrists, where do you see one minute reporters, fake news, yourself? >> anderson, my basic thesis here is that we need to retake unfair, slandering a darn good man. government for the people of the the next, we're have very good part in fact saving the country united states, return government money. of by and for the people. they don't have to do their jobs vetting, we do it. i see myself for what i am, we are now so through the looking glass, ladies and gentlemen, it's amazing because which is for the last ten years, without even realizing it, if i'm the outsider whose been the president is given the organizing collisions of ordinary american citizens to chance to speak long enough, he often lets slip how he really take on unchecked corporate thinks about stuff and he reveals that what he has just power and winning and that's said previously sometimes just exactly how i see myself in this field. seconds before is just complete b.s. i'm the guy whose done direct democracy for ten years and i know it's not like many of you beaten the oil companies and the drug companies and tobacco don't already know this, but there are just so many examples of him saying one thing over and companies and did the longest youth voter mobilization, the over and over again that are then revealed to be just wishful largest grass roots organization thinking or just made up. in the united states. remember the best people pledge? >> just lastly, impeaching president trump obviously was your signature issue. >> we're going to make america it's what brought you to a lot of people's attention running. great again.

we're going to use our best people. there is a majority of democrats i'm going to get the best in the house that favor people. impeachment. we're going to deliver. we're going to get the best people in the world. speaker pelosi doesn't seem to we don't want people that are b be on board saying in a level, c level, d level. statement today, putting in a we're going to get the absolute best. statement that highlighted the on going litigation against the we're going to use the smartest and best. president declaring he will be we're not using political hacks. held accountable. it's a sophisticated chess if she isn't on board after match. reaching that critical benchmark, do you think she ever will be? i have people lined up. >> i don't know. you need people that are truly, what i do know, anderson, is truly capable. we have to get the best people. this, almost two years ago, i said this is the most corrupt >> the best people, folks that don't lie about their resume and president in american history. we need to stand up for what is stuff like that. right. patrick shanahan might have been the defense secretary. we need to stand up for the two failed picks for the federal reserve. constitution and the rule of steven moore and hermann cane are named in an unnamed for u.n. law. and we need to protect the american people. ambassador and ronny jackson, i started to push on a grass roots level to get americans to the would be v.a. secretary who sign a petition. we have over 8 million who have went down in flames labor to say the american people know secretary pick and two would be what is right. what the difference between i.c.e. directors, two picks for secretary of the army. right and wrong. i've been saying the government the list as you see goes on and is broken for two years as an on. there are so many people who are outsider, i've been trying to organize a grass roots effort to say let's stand up for what is right in america.

i'm still pushing for it. just in acting roles because they don't actually have we haven't gotten it done because washington refuses to full-time people who have actually been confirmed, which bring the american people into this. is not to say the prior administrations haven't had we've televised hearings. vetting failures and failed nominations before. i asked speaker pelosi to cancel they certainly have. not everyone close to this many. never happened before what is the vacation and get it done on new unprecedented in the case of top national security officials tv and i don't think that's going to happen. >> tom steyer, appreciate your frankly dangerous is for a president to pay little time. >> anderson, thank you for having me. attention to vetting his nominee or toss it off with a flip remark. >> you're part of the vetting marianne williamson and my process, you know. interview with her and a deeper i give a name to the press and they vet for me. look into things ms. williamson we save a lot of money that way. said about depression and medication and vaccines. >> you're welcome. more on all this now from abby phillip who joins us from the white house. i understand, abby, the president was surprised when ratcliff started facing growing concerns from democrats but from those within his own party. >> reporter: yeah, and the change for the president was only five days in the making, but over the last several days so bob, what do you take for back pain? according to people who have before i take anything, spoken with him, he was i apply topical pain relievers first. surprised to find that

republicans didn't really have a salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors lot of great things to say about ratcliff. he had been assured by his for effective, non-addictive relief. allies ratcliff would have salonpas lidocaine. support he would be an easy patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu. confirmation process, and that just turned out to not be very true and the days after he was named, many republicans could only simply say they didn't know anything about him and the president became a little concerned that this confirmation was not going to be what he had been told it would be by his friends and allies. >> i mean, during the mueller and the basketball team. join the soccer team, hearings, ratcliff clearly didn't even ask mueller a question, he used his five make more art. i am gonna learn how to chop things with my hands. minutes to make a passionate happy school year! resume reel for the president of just defending the president. it's certainly the kind of thing the president likes and shortly after that that he was, you know, raised up to be nominated for this position. what kind of vetting, if any, do we know did the white house do before the president's announcement? >> well, that audition of sorts ingratuated himself in the president's eyes but for

democrats, it became evidence how he couldn't actually do the job in an impartial way. the president was interested in ratcliff for a long time it's been a long time considering him to be the attorney general for example. since andrew dusted off his dancing shoes. luckily denture breath but they apparently did not will be the least of his worries. spend very much time looking at because he uses polident 4 in 1 cleaning system the basic information that was available on the internet. to kill 99.99% for example, on ratcliff's own of odor causing bacteria. polident. clean. fresh. and confident. campaign website, a lot of claims that were then fact checked by media outlets were on that very website. and my side super soft? be firm? causing bacteria. with the sleep number 360 smart bed you can both... they are on there today, and the adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. white house apparently didn't even look at them. so, can it help us fall asleep faster? so the vetting process here has yes, by gently warming your feet. never been particularly great, but everyone that basic step but can it help keep me asleep? apparently wasn't taken, absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to anderson, and president trump seems to be content with relying keep you both effortlessly comfortable. on the media to do the job of will it help me keep up with him? the white house for him. yup. so, you can really promise better sleep? >> abby phillip, thank you very not promise... prove. much. appreciate it. and now, save up to $600 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. joining us is senior fbi intelligence advisor phil mudd. plus no interest until january 2022 on all smart beds. only for a limited time. i don't know what to ask you. when you looked at ratcliff

doing that audition tape, his five-minute addition tape during the mueller hearings, i thought this is clearly somebody who, you know, is just sending a message to the president. does it surprise you that they wouldn't even in whatever vetting they did and i don't think they did any they would have figured out that the resume online is not accurate? >> boy, i mean, you remember ronny jackson, he gives the president the bill of health and don't do a vetting process and it turns out to be a disaster. let me be serious. you can joke all day. it does because some of the pieces are basic. i went through a vetting process once at the white house. it's very difficult. the hard part is you got to go in financial records. the media can't deny financial records from someone who is a nominee. you can have person conversations about things like nanny taxes and order the fbi to get a records check. that's not the media's responsibility. further more, you don't want the media doing that.

there's a simpler part. you have a liaison office that deals with the congress. all the president has to do before he says anything is ask them to go over the congress and say what is this guy's reputation? find enemies. will we have a problem before we go down the road. it wasn't hard. all he had to do is pick up the phone. >> that's the other thing. on the program last night my interview with marianne if the idea that the president was surprised to hear from williamson became contentious people on capitol hill that they when it came to her views of didn't know anything about this people taking antidepressant medication. guy, you know, that's the kind of thing, again, with a few phone calls before you send out a tweet nominating somebody, you here's some of the interview. >> you say feds say one in ten americans on antidepressants, think there must be somebody in not a good sign, not a time for the white house that can call around to their allies on any of us to be numbing pain. capitol hill. >> sure, the president sort of if you're on an antidepressant, suggested that did that too late you're not numbing your pain but trying to feel again, no? in the game. after the white house did a head >> some people would argue that, some people not. count on capitol hill and capitol hill said mr. mudd has a problem. the issue is the difference between normal human despair and the president indicated that he if you're going through didn't do the vetting process something like grief for instance. because clearly what happened is >> that's normal. people on the hill after the

process, after the person was you write eloquently about announced came to the president normal universal sadness. and said, not so much. the way this game works is the >> when people are taking antidepressants who have had president any president typically doesn't tell a nominee serious, serious pain and to withdraw because it's embarrassing. serious depression in their what the president said today is lives and they are helped by what every president does, wink, them, i'm happy for them. wink, this will be really tough. >> yes, i believe that. >> i'm happy for them. if you want, i'll allow you to withdraw the nomination saying get out. when i meet young people and i this will be ugly. meet them all the time, once again, i'm the one here who has had a lot of experience with people in pain. >> sure. >> when i meet -- >> i just don't think telling sees the position of reporters and national intelligence. people it will numb them is a good idea. >> oh, well, that's your belief. he's not hiding the fact he >> tonight, williamson's campaign released a statement which reads in part williamson is speaking as a concerned citi wants people devoted and you and does not weigh in on the dig seem to be depending the above and beyond around and. diagnosis of any individual regarding medical or health condition. randi kaye is looking at williamson's past statements on a reason to put this a guy in this incredibly depression and vaccines. important position. >> the president's playing checkers. he's not playing chess. statements not without controversy. here is randi's report. he set up the next nominee.

>> i've lived through periods of what's the first question for time by any means today would be called clinical depression but anybody on the committee, for even that's a scam. whoever shows up john doe, jane all it means somebody in a clinic said it. there is no blood test. doe, the president said this in front of reporters about his >> reporter: marianne williamson last year suggesting clinical belief director mueller was appropriately cautioning us depression isn't a real thing. she recently told "the new york about russian interference and times" she regretted saying that the intelligence committee or decide with the president publicly. suggesting her issue is not the the president gave the democrats use of anti-depressants but the over prescribing of them. a gift because they force him to last night on this program she again tried the explain. go with them. >> we have over the last few years taken this kind of cheap yellow smiley face, put it over emotion like happy, happy, happy. or go with the president who we have lost our sense there are doesn't believe in the intel. times when sadness is part of life. >> next, the departure of the one of the republican party's >> reporter: in public posts, young hopefuls and the only african american in the house. we'll talk about the role trump williamson suggested without fatigue played with another republican who also chose to evidence that antidepressants leave congress and later, in may be harmful and lead to light of our conversation with suicide. the day designer kate spade took mary williamson, we're putting her life, williamson blamed more of her past statements to the test. we'll be right back. antidepressants and after actor robin williams' death, the truth

do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about antidepressions, helpful for some, hurtful for others about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells linking to an article suggesting they played a role in his suicide. called eosinophils in their lungs. >> it was written by the church eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. of scientology that doesn't fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. belief in medicine even for serious mental illness. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. or psychiatry. >> anderson, if somebody is helped by an antidepressant, i'm happy for them. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. i have never argued anybody who fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, is on antidepressant should get improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. off of it. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. >> it worries me you seem to be sending a message raising such concerns in such a blanket way get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing. or clinical depression, you're saying you're happy for somebody if it helps them. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. i don't hear you saying i tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection encourage everybody to talk with or your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. a medical provider and see if haven't you missed enough? this is just a regular sadness that's understandable or -- ask an asthma specialist about fasenra. >> well, but i -- what i would if you can't afford your medication, say, i'm sorry. astrazeneca may be able to help. someone who is a spiritual person is just as qualified an

expert to talk about issues of deep sadness even depression. it is only been in the last few years that this idea of the medicalization of depression has come up. >> williamson is under fire for her comments about vaccines, too. at an event in new hampshire, she called mandatory vaccinations names and likened it to the abortion debate saying the u.s. government doesn't tell any citizen what they have to do with their body or their child. ♪ later she apologized telling the "l.a. times" i understand many vaccines are important and save lives and i understand some of book now and enjoy free unlimited open bar and more. the skepticism that abounds today about drugs rushed to market by big pharma. norwegian cruise line. feel free. she told "the view" she does not consider herself an anti vaccer. >> do you support mandatory vaccinations? >> i understand that public safety coals first but we must have a balance between public safety and individual freedom.

i do not trust the propaganda. on either side. >> in the end, williamson didn't directly answer the question about supporting mandatory vaccinations only saying she supported vaccinations. randi kaye, cnn, new york. four i want to check in with three chris and see what he's working on for cuomo prime time. two >> i gave this a lot of thought last night, coop. one happy school year! i was watching the whole spectrum of reactions to your interview with her, which by the way, i have to say. i've done a lot of those (door bell rings) it's ohey. interviews. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, you care so much about this are you okay? issue for all the right reasons even when i was there, and forget about our personal connections to it. you were respectful but you i never knew when my symptoms can't let it go when somebody is would keep us apart. confusing emotion and illness. let's be careful about the facts. so i talked to my doctor about humira. you can't equivocate. i learned humira can help get, it's one of the biggest die and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. diagnosis of the country. so you can experience few or no symptoms. depression. and you mess with people taking humira can lower your ability to fight infections, medication and stigmatize it, the rate goes up, the suicide rate goes up. you have to take it seriously. including tuberculosis. vaccinations is an entirely serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers,

including lymphoma, have happened; different issue and different than talking about mental as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, health. you did the right thing. it's right to do the piece. serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. >> i was sorry she felt i was before treatment, get tested for tb. disrespectful and didn't have enough time. we went on for 14 minutes tell your doctor if you've been to areas because i think it's an where certain fungal infections are common, important issue and i wanted to and if you've had tb, give her time to clarify hepatitis b, everything but i certainly hope to have her back. are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. i also think, you know, she talks about over prescription be there for you, and them. being an issue and i totally agree with that and people ask your gastroenterologist about humira. especially young people aware of with humira, control is possible. possibly very dangerous deadly side effects of some medications and all that is valid, but i just -- >> no question. >> the word she used could have been -- >> you're 100% right on that and i think marry ann knows that. she's in a different position than she's familiar with where there is an accountability for what she says, people aren't as open minded of things because the social direction from our leaders matters differently than someone who is a provaccer of thought. when it comes to anti-depressants, if anything,

that drug is under prescribed with all few respect to and if you talk to experts about this, they are worried when peter baker we read headlines people push back on medications, today the twitter verse said it makes people who need that would be the president helpless likely to get it and increases sigma. mocking congressman elijah cummings and the victim of a >> with depression, it makes you home break in. not want to reach and feels like that actually happened. reaching out to a medical provider and self-help guru or congressman cummings represent as huge part of baltimore and tweeting about the city and priest, it feels overwhelming and the problem is more people racially loaded terms and not reaching out. attacking the congressman anyway, got to leave it there. we'll have a lot more with you himself as well. chris, in 15 minutes of your show. earlier this morning after it was report that someone tried to we'll see you then. break into the congressman's another of those headlines peter home last weekend, the president baker tweeted about the white house pulling out of a nuclear treaty. tweeted this, really bad news exclamation mark. the baltimore house of elijah cummings was robbed. to help signal the end of the cold war. fareed zakaria will join us with the significant context. let's do the eyebrows first, just tease it a little. slather it all over, don't hold back. too bad sgloochlt -- too bad! well, the squirrels followed me all the way out to california! and there's a very strange badger staring at me... other attacks on the congressman and city he represents the message would read different no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars they than many today. i would seem as taunting, thuggish and if anything should happen to it. when the president was asked on my car insurance

about it today, here is how he explained it. "mr. big shot's" got his own trailer. >> the tweet itself was just really a repeat of what i heard ♪ geico could save you 15% or more on car insurance. over the news. i know his house was robbed and i thought that was too bad. that was really just -- that was really not meant as a wise guy tweet. his house was robbed and it came over the news at a certain moment last night and i had just -- >> he's suggesting there is no other way to see it than him showing compassion and sympathy for the congressman. this tweet came after a dozen others calling the congressman corrupt, inept and a bully saying no human being would want to live in the parts of baltimore he represents and came after repeated attacks on four this melting pot of impacted species. congressmen of color. everywhere is going to get touched by climate change. considering the context, do you think president trump was wishing the congressman well, the man he poured hate on for days. the only african american in the you wouldn't accept from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? republican in the house will hurd announced he's flonase relieves your worst symptoms

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and if republican haves any hope at all of trying to pick up and unrivaled network to work. seats in the midterm, they have the united states postal service to hold seats like this one. makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. but will hurd is a good friend. he's clearly frustrated and tired of explaining the inexplicable and indefensible and won't do it. he's the only republican member african american wreb member of the house and had enough of it. it's clear to me, he's a bright guy. he can do other things and why deal with this for the next 15 months answering these types of crazy issues that the president raises on a daily basis. >> it's interesting because john, we had congressman hurd on the program many times particularly on boarder and he's a very rational voice on boarder security and border issues and, you know, certainly more i guess would categorize himself as a more moderate wing of the republican party but certainly not somebody who, you know, is a

flame thrower and not open to compromise and actually working across the isle. >> well, i'll tell you what, will hurd was the best most rational voice on boarder issues for republicans. he understood the issue there is a border issue and immigration, as well as anybody. he was someone members listen to. cybersecurity, artificial intelligence on a policy level this is an enormous loss for the republican party and i'm so disappointed. in fact, will hurd is one of three house republicans who represents a district that hillary clinton won in 2020, president trump has pulled brian fitzpatrick and john catco the united states out of a being the other two. treaty on nuclear weapons with russia. sparking fears of a new arms race. this could set off further this brings an end to the intermediate range forces treaty signed by president ronald retirements. environments and texas by the way is not going well for president trump. he's significantly under reagan and mikhail gorbachev in performing in the polls and there are at least three other seats in that state that republicans hold which are very 1997. you see them there at the vulnerable. signing, as they worked to end >> we mentioned the house fundraiser put the blame on the cold war between the two nuclear powers. president trump saying they are secretary of state mike pompeo tired of trying to defend the is putting the blame on the s-show. russians. and a senior u.s. official says

as someone like yourself that the trump administration has did retire partly due to the plans to test a missile banned under the treaty within the next president's rhetoric, can you few weeks. relate to the decision he's made? here's what president trump had to say that afternoon. >> absolutely. i mean, i felt the same way in 2018. >> they weren't living up to i really didn't want to have to their commitment, and i said spend all of 2018 like i spent they're not going to live up to their commitment, then we have in 2016 just talking about to -- we always have to be in the lead. president trump and his conduct i've redone our nuclear, we have in office. i mean, poor will hurd, i got to tell you people ask me all the time do i miss it? new nuclear coming. i hate to tell that to people. my answer is i do not miss the i hate to say it, because it's devastating. but we've always got to be in circus, but i do miss the clowns the lead. and i'll tell ya, anderson, it's hopefully and -- and hope to god -- you make a lot of really good you never have to use it. friends but at some point when you're not getting anything >> joining me for more on this done, the most basic tasks of governing become nearly is fareed zakaria, host of cnn's impossible at times and it hard to focus on the policy and will hurd is a policy guy. fareed zakaria gps. he likes diving into cyber seek is the president right. -- security and dreamers. he says the president is pulling out of the inf agreement. is he right? >> the president is right. and the border. russia has been violating the agreement for a long time. he led charge on discharge there have been repeated efforts petition for the dreamers. he fell a little short. he got a little frustrated when to reengage with them under the last administration.

you can't address the policy issues you're elected to fight for as a congressman. >> congressman, appreciate your i don't know that the trump time. administration tried diplomacy, but it's certainly fair to say coming up, a democrat who that the russians have been violating it. wasn't on the debate stage this why should the u.s. be bound by those limits. but the real story, anderson, week but hoping to be on it the next month. might be this is more about my conversation with tom steyer, the impeachment focused candidate next. china than russia. china is developing the world's most sophisticated set of intermediate range missiles. they are not covered by the treaty. they do not seem to want to be covered by a treaty. part of what's going on here is the united states doesn't want to be bound by a treaty that russia is not adhering to and china is not party to. and yet it is able to build missiles. >> what do you make of the president's hopes for a potential nuclear pact with both russia and china? >> that is the ideal situation going forward. because china is going to be building up its arsenal, not just of nuclear weapons but of missiles. russia has a huge one. and ideally you would want some kind of treaty that would lock both countries in.

ideally potentially other countries if they were to be covered as well. but certainly the russians and the chinese. right now the president is obsessively focused on trade, has a very hostile relationship with china, so it doesn't seem likely. with russia right now, congress sun likely to do much. so the prospects for some kind of big arms control treaty in the trump administration may seem low, but it's important to realize, these are the weapons that can destroy all the countries we're talking about. these are the existential weapons that threaten, you know, the survival of mankind. >> a russian politician cautioned that if the u.s. deploys short-term missiles, to eastern europe, that the flight time of the weapons are so short that moscow would have to adopt a doctrine of preemptive strikes which would potentially increase the risk for sparking a nuclear exchange. >> this takes us back to the

bad old days of the cold war. this is exactly why these weapons were so destabilizing because they had short ranges, they moved fast. there wasn't enough time to verify. so deterrents theory told you that the logic had to be the minute you saw them launch or you detected a launch, you launched yours, and that's the kind of thing that accidents are made of. that's the kind of thing miscalculations are made of and the problem here of course is that the stakes are very high. because if a nuclear missile goes off whether by accident or miscalculation, the damage is all too real. >> the other constant concern about nuclear weapons is obviously north korea. they've tested short-range missiles again this week. president trump tweeting in part, quote, i may be wrong, but i believe that chairman kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country and only the united states with me as president can make that vision come true. he will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to and he does not want to disappoint his friend, president trump.

sort of interesting or odd. >> it's very strange. i've always thought with kim jong-un president trump believes this is his path to a nobel peace prize. that's why he scared the daylights out of everyone over the prospects of a world war and then swooped in to negotiate an end to that threat. the north koreans are not accommodating. they're not playing to the script. they are not, you know, negotiating in earnest. they clearly do not want to give up their nuclear weapons, but trump doesn't give up. he still -- he sends the love letters. the girl has said no three times and he's still asking. >> fareed zakaria, thanks very much. >> pleasure. >> fareed hosts an important report tonight on cnn. don't miss the special, "state of hate, the explosion of white supremacy." it's at 11:00 p.m. eastern tonight. up next another heartbreak for the kennedy family.

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quote, the world is a little less beautiful today. our hearts are shattered by the loss of our beloved saoirse. her life was filled with hope, promise and love. authorities did not announce a cause of death. they're waiting for a toxicology report. but we do know saoirse kennedy hill struggled with depression. in 2016 she wrote about it bravely in her school newspaper. here is part of what she said. my depression took root in the beginning of my middle school years and will be with me for life. i