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a new tragedy for the kennedy family. the granddaughter of the robert f. kennedy was found. saoirse kennedy hill is her name. she is a student at boston college. in a family statement, her grandmother ethel kennedy said, quote, the world is a little less beautiful today. our hearts are shattered by the loss of our beloved saoirse. her life was filled with hope, promise and love. authorities did not announce a cause of death. they're waiting for a toxicology report. but we do know saoirse kennedy hill struggled with depression. in 2016 she wrote about it bravely in her school newspaper. here is part of what she said. my depression took root in the beginning of my middle school years and will be with me for life. i suffered deep sadness that
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felt like a heavy boulder on my chest. it's not clear what caused her death. our condolences to the kennedy family. saoirse hill was just 22 years old. the news continues with chris cuomo prime time. >> thank you, anderson. >> welcome to "prime time." a majority of house democrats now support an impeachment inquiry. so why do i say almost? because some of the biggest voices in that party are not on board, and we have one here tonight. congressman gregory meeks, still a holdout along with speaker nancy pelosi who tried to calm her increasingly restless caucus today. so here is the question. what is the case against an inquiry? we'll do that. the president says it wasn't a wise guy tweet that he put out on the elijah cummings break in today. does congressional black caucus member meeks believe that? even nikki haley is throwing trump shade.
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why and what does it mean? and we have news for you in the "i can't breathe" case of eric garner. will an nypd officer lose his job for allegedly choosing a chokehold and causing the death of an unarmed black man? should he be fired? we're going to take it to cuomo's court. it's friday night. what do you say? let's get after it. all right. so here's what we know. there are 235 democrats in the house, right? by cnn's count, there are now at least 118 publicly on the record supporting an impeachment inquiry. that would be a milestone because it's more than half. but it will take more, like what? the weight of senior members with gravitas. like congressman gregory meeks, and we're lucky to have him tonight. thank you, congressman. >> always a pleasure. >> so let's get after it. what is the case against? >> no one wants to get rid of the guy that's the occupant of 1600 pennsylvania avenue right
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now. now more than me and i'm sure speaker pelosi and others. what we want to do is make sure that we dot our i's and cross our t's and get every evidence, all of the evidence that will go so that when we do impeach, if we get to that impeachment point, we can make sure he's also convicted. look, what's actually happening now is very similar to what would take place in an impeachment inquiry anyways. what's going on. >> nadler says there is one going on. >> that's correct. it's semantics to one extent. the judiciary committee is doing its investigations. i sit on the financial services committee. we're doing an investigation. i also sit on the foreign affairs committee. it's continuing its investigation. elijah cummings is doing what he has to do. on government and oversight. richard neal is doing what he has to do on ways and means. so the investigation to get the evidence that's necessary so that you can prosecute a case is continuing and moving on right now.
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>> you think it hurts you if you cannot deliver on this and is that why it's being done in more of a circumspect approach. >> yeah, i think that what you do, i'm a former prosecutor. i've seen cases where individuals were quick to indict, did not do all of their research, homework, investigations first and then the individual got off as a result of it. >> you're going to lose the case anyway. unlike in a courtroom, this is just votes, congressman, and with all due respect, and i mean that, we've been saying that a lot these days, nobody ever means it when they say it, it's like that's just the warm-up. i'm about to hit you. that's not the case here. the house looks for the facts and the senate tries the case. you're going to lose in the senate. it doesn't matter what you put in front of them. that could be a vote of conscience and they're going to have to own it. but your job is to put together the facts in the house. that's called an impeachment inquiry. i don't understand the case of investigating to figure out
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whether or not you have enough to investigate. that's what it feels like to me. >> what i think is, i think there's things that are so substantial about this president that if we really uncover them, there are many senators that are in close senate races also, and let's confront them with that. for example, if we get his tax returns, there is a reason he is trying to hide those tax returns, those federal tax returns, and we show his net worth was utilized higher in one place and lower than other so he can get an advantage, that's a violation of the irs law. we're looking on is the financial services committee with his dealings with some of the foreign banks he is dealing with. there could be a crime that's committed therein. and then it goes smack into the face of those senators. and i refer you back to nixon. nixon, the republicans were solidly behind nixon until such time they uncovered something that they hadn't seen before. >> right. and you know this as well, but just for the sake of comparison, it's not apples to apples.
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we didn't have a mueller probe with nixon. you found out you had a smoking gun of tapes that directed a felony, that he was not just knowledgeable of but a participant in. you don't have any of that here. >> and we're going to keep digging. if we don't have it, we'll have to make a decision. the one thing i got to make sure that doesn't happen is this guy gets four more years, that we -- you know, i'm sure he would love for us to impeach -- we could impeach tomorrow. that does not remove him from office. and we're still going to have to deal with him. and a lot of my constituents think that they hear the word impeachment, they think that gets rid of him. >> there's a theory that the word impeachment scares you guys and you feel it divides people, the numbers aren't there, you don't have a consensus in the country. and that doesn't make sense. it certainly wouldn't make sense coming from you or pelosi. you have known this is about conviction and upstanding your oath. if people don't like it, they don't like it. if they like it, they like it. that's not supposed to be the dictate of what you do in this situation. >> there's so much at stake with
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this president and what he's done to this country and the scenario that he could put this country into if he's re-elected. this is -- we are on the cusp of really our democracy is at stake. here's a guy that does nothing to stop russia from imposing in our democracy. we've got the graveyard of mcconnell and they seem -- right now my republican colleagues seem to be just doing what he wants. >> but you don't impeach somebody because you don't like how -- >> if we mess around, if we lose the house and he gets reelected. >> if we lose the house -- >> you're not supposed to go after him for any of those reasons. you're supposed to go after him because he broke the law or abused his office. >> exactly right. and it should not be a scenario where it just seems to be like a partisan issue. that's why i want to dig to get the facts. >> isn't that called an impeachment inquiry? >> as i said in the beginning, it's a matter of semantics. >> what are you against, then?
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>> i believe, i believe -- well, i think we need to make sure that we continue to do the work. generally when you have an impeachment inquiry, a lot of the focus shifts to one committee, the judiciary judiciary committee. >> so this is about keeping irons in the fire. do more, not less. >> that's exactly right let me ask you about something else. elijah cummings you know very well and somebody breaks into his house. the president puts out a tweet. really bad news, the baltimore house of elijah cummings was robbed. too bad. he says it wasn't a wise guy tweet. he was just repeating what he heard. >> come on. this guy is a terrible, terrible human being and he's unfortunately the president of the united states. >> what do you think his intention was with the tweet? >> it's clearly that he was doing a wise guy tweet about elijah cummings. he was trying to perpetuate what he was saying previously. >> told you it was a bad place. look, even he got busted up.
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>> it's clear what he's doing. and unfortunately too many people are becoming desensitized because this is what he does and you forget what he did immediately beforehand. >> what do you say to the counter argument, look, elijah cummings said his community is drug-infested. the place is under it, and that you guys are confusing criticism of conditions that cummings and democrats in cities all over the country have allowed to persist and making it a race issue. >> this president talks about people, black and brown people in particular in a certain way. i could give you some white communities that are poor and need -- and crime is infested in those areas. he will never -- he's never spoke about those communities in that way. he only directs that type of language to a certain people who happen to be black and brown. that's all. i know that -- >> shouldn't you be talking about that more. these debates the last two days, i'm getting beat up by the left
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that i'm saying that policy doesn't matter. that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying that the election is not going to be who has a better health care in plan. you're not going to beat him on banging out how close to medicare for all you can get. besides, the country is not all behind that plan anyway. this is about who's us and who's them. and do we include or exclude. and i didn't really hear people, except for marianne williamson, grabbing the passion of that sense of purpose and saying we got to come together and battle this definition of us. why not? >> look, i think it's got to get there, chris. i agree with you on that. as the number narrows and you have more opportunity to address more issues that that will become very pertinent. right now you have some individuals who feel they've got to attack so that they can stay relevant. >> biden for arguably being racist more than they've gone after this president. >> that's right.
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and president obama to a degree. those are real republican talking points. i hope we don't use those republican talking points. >> this is why i wanted to have you here, congressman. people -- they simplify these issues about impeachment. and they believe like, look, if you believe it, go forward and do it. if not, move away from it. so i want them to understand where the opportunity, i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> as we move forward there are only going to be more issues and opportunities. you always have an invitation together to be here. >> i look forward to it. >> and it won't always be friday night. thank you to your wife for letting you be here on friday night. more on this issue, just for context, right? the lone black republican in the house of representatives, think about that for a second, that party had one african-american representative. now he's saying he's not going to seek re-election. his name is will hurd. he's in texas. is that good news for this president, even though hurd has been a critic. what does that mean? that there was just one and he says i won't even run again.
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the republican party had one black member in the house of representatives. now he's done. just two weeks ago, will hurd told christiane amanpour this. >> i like to say i'm the face of the future republican party. >> not anymore because he is now gone and he was the only one, and he is in fact the eighth republican to say that he's leaving. those absences leave 186 republicans running for re-election. that group is overwhelmingly one type of person, white men. zero african-americans. the number of women will drop to 13. hispanics, seven. asians, one.
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what do these numbers mean? let's go to the wizard of odds. he's here to show us what diversity or the lack thereof indicates. what do you see inside the numbers? >> look at this. i think this is a key part of it. it's not just about diversity, it's also about the politics of it. you have 30 democrats running for reelection in 2020 in trump-won districts. there are now just two republicans running for reelection in clinton-one elections. >> that means there is a much better chance republicans hold on to seats. >> not just that. if you believe republicans haven't been challenging trump enough. now you're really not going to have republicans challenging trump because now there is no electoral incentive for them. all of them are going to be running in districts that trump won. that's not the case with hurd and/or fitzpatrick in
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pennsylvania. their allegiance is to trump, not the electorate. >> what do uy see when you see general numbers? >> will hurd is emblematic of the african american community at large. what we see here is among black registered voters, trump's overall approval is 7%. there are not a lot of african americans who support him. >> what did you see with the bushes? >> bush was regularly in the teens, actually, which wasn't particularly high. >> w. or h.w.? >> w. in 2004/2005. obviously toward the end of his presidency when he was in the high 20s, it was lower. but of course is in the low to mid-40s and he's all the way down in the level. and it indicates that african-americans aren't behind him. the question is why are african americans not behind him. look at this, his approval rating on the economy is 17% among african-americans which is still not great. that's much closer to bush's overall approval rating. the overall difference between the economy overall is an indication to me that character is really mattering with african american voters. they don't like the stuff that he tweets. they don't like the way he
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speaks. and i think these numbers are very indicative of it. >> what dr. king call it had content of your character. what's the shift you see? >> i think this is important as we think towards 2020. obviously the president is running for reelection, and one of the big things that occurred between 2012 and 2016 is that african american voter, their turnout dropped tremendously in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, 12% in michigan, 12%, wisconsin. in pennsylvania only 2%. this is the white turnout -- >> how much of this is a function of not having an african-american candidate? >> i think that's part of it. but i have to be honest with you, chris, when i was watching the 2016 campaign and given everything that trump was saying, i was expecting that perhaps african americans would be turned off by trump's message enough that they would turn out. but in fact that was not what occurred. i think that's a real question heading into 2020 is whether or not trump, as he has been in the african americans and african americans who did not turn out in 2016 so upset that they're now going to turn out in 2020.
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>> what's your last point? >> i think this is sort of important. if african americans had turned out in 2016 the way they turned in in 20 dwe12, they probably w have lost those states and hillary clinton would have won the presidency. and that's why trump's rhetoric could be so dangerous for his reelection campaign. >> we're always talking about what it means and who wins. african-american voters. their leaders in those communities, they should be all over the people who want to be president and the sitting president saying, what are you going to do for these communities? just don't trash talk baltimore. what are your solutions for it? i got to jump, harry. >> shalom. >> have a good -- and with the president not backing down on these attacks, look, you know what the pattern is, he says it to get the effect with his base, and he says, you took it all wrong, it's fake news. and it never is. what's it going to mean for the
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we're going to have the great debate. here's some premises for it. it can't be that the president keeps getting taken the wrong way about what he says about black and brown people and where they live. and i can't be that his party doesn't get what he is doing. the question is, will their silence and his lack of silence wind up adding to their determent. that is the start of tonight's great debate. with waja heat brings the heat ali and niger "i'm the baddest" in this house. you like that?
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i put a lot of work. give me a little something. give me a little something. all right. so first, to the premise, waj, do you accept the premise of this that the president knows what he is doing, that when he says he's taken out of context, that's just having it both ways, and the party knows his silence is deafening. >> president trump is the president of all returns. look, i think the republican party is the most diverse party on earth. when i look at republican congressmen, i see every shade under the sun. white men, old men, white men, some with facial hair, some white men with fades. i even see some white women. some are blond and some are brunettes. what i don't see is some are of color. why? he is promoting a white nationalist ideology. you can easily say now, you only have to go back two years to the start of his presidency. the last two weeks, look at what he said, look at what he
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tweeted, look at what he said against the four congresswomen of color. look how he sat there for 13 seconds loving that nativist chant, "send them back home" and how he attacked baltimore and said the people who live there are basically subhuman and how he on the heels of attacking elijah cummings, too bad his house was burglarized. i want to say one point. i want to give credit to one republican, nikki haley, daughter of south asian immigrants, a profile in courage. a woman who sacrificed so much today, chris, because she tweeted back at president trump saying this is so unnecessary, emoji. thank you nikki haley, profile in courage. >> hey, look, these days that is more than expected. so niger, i turn to you, basically a unicorn in your party right now. why are you not offended by what you have to see as this president's penchant for division? >> my offended donald trump calling out a district that has been controlled by one-party
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rule for over 50 years and where blacks large -- a large number of blacks are in misery. he didn't call blacks subhuman. he said the conditions are subhuman. >> he's saying no human would live there. >> that's right. and -- >> but they do. >> what he's saying is that the people in that community are trapped and looking for liberation. look, i saw that cnn poll that the wizard of oz brought up, but there were two other polls. i read this on a cnn site. there was a fox news poll and an abc/washington post poll, no friends of the president, that had him at 22% and 18% respectively in the black community during these tweet crises. if you average all three out, that's about 50% of the black vote. if the president gets anywhere close to 15% of the black vote in this election, i think even the heat knows there will be a lot of fire, but there will be a
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lot of smoke but no fire on the democratic side because trump will go to a resounding landslide reelection. >> chris, can i do a poll-off? let's do a poll. a poll this week came out and said a majority of americans think that donald trump, the president of the united states of america, is a racist. a majority of americans think donald trump is more racist than wait for it, governor george wallace of alabama. for those of who you are watching and young, governor george wallace of alabama famously said segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. let that sink in -- >> he was a big democrat. >> and you have to ask yourself, and i won't to quote a keith ellison in 2016 when he was talking to muslims who were going to vote for trump. why be a chicken for colonel sanders. if you're a person of color you are enabling a racist president and you will be a chicken in the bucket. >> i have a little anecdote. i was sharing a lyft ride that i
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took the other day with a young african-american male probably around 25, 26 years old and i was just testing the waters and asking him how he felt about donald trump, and do you believe he is a racist and all the media talk, general talking points about him being racist. and this young man said an interesting thing. he said a few years ago, i was underemployed, my family was dependent on government assistance, i'm now working two jobs. i have more money in my wallet and, look, let me be practical here, brother. if i have a choice of a guy who's alleged to be a racist that has me working in a booming economy versus a guy who sounds really nice, makes me feel good inside but doesn't put food on my plate or give me the opportunity to work so i can put food on my plate. i'm going to choose the so-called racist. >> but i don't understand. where did the sea change in the economy come from? the rate of difference in this -- he had some robust part that was juiced by a tax cut
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where 83 cents of every dollars went to the wealthy. but the growth rate is basically what it's been for the last ten years, other than the first few years after the great recession when obama boosted the economy up out of it and the employment rate was in the 4s then. and it's in the high 3s now. and you got a trade war. >> be fair. if you're going to talk about the tax cut artificially juicing the economy, you also have to talk about the raise in interest rates up to 2.5 points that was just lowered this week, also stifling and slowing down this economy. you have to talk about the obstructionist democrats -- >> just a second. powell on the fed is your boy. you put him there. it's not that the fed is up against trump, it's his boy. he put him there. and in terms of the investigation, don't lie about who you meet with. don't run around trying to get every advantage from russian interference and you're not going to have any trouble. they started all of this trouble for themselves and you know it. if you were running a campaign with me, you know that neither
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of us would do any of the things that they did. we both know it. you can write it off to them being naive but that's not an excuse. >> what i know is many among the left, i don't know if the heat was a part, but he could have been, basically said that trump was colluding and working and was a russian stooge and mr. mueller came up to bat and the democrats thought he was going to hit a home run and he struck out. >> that's not true. he was told he couldn't prosecute the president. last word to you. >> brother, you got to love yourself more. just know this. donald trump does not love you and does not love people of color. the white nationalist base will never love you, never, ever. ask yourself is it worth it. love yourself more. >> i love my country as you should. >> well, i love you both. i hate the word nationalist. stay patriot. have a great weekend. thank you for making your
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arguments. god bless to both. we have another debate to take on. with the recommendation today. now this is a big one. the officer accused of placing a lethal chokehold on eric garner, there will be no prosecution from him as far as we know, but now there is a ruling that he should be fired. let's take on both sides of this. remember the different contexts, it's not about crimes, it's about job performance. cuomo's court is in session, next. can my side be firm? and my side super soft? with the sleep number 360 smart bed you can both... adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. so, can it help us fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. will it help me keep up with him? yup. so, you can really promise better sleep? not promise... prove. and now, save up to $600 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. plus no interest until january 2022 on all smart beds. only for a limited time.
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restoring control and harmony, once thought to belost forever. the most personal technology is technology with the power to change your life. a key police official now recommends that the nypd fire the officer accused of choking eric garner and causing his death. the officer's name is daniel pantaleo and he has not been charged with any crime at the state or federal level. but five years after garner lost his life, emotions remain very high. so let's take up this latest ruling in cuomo's court. areva martin and james gagliano are here. thanks to you both.
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let's do prosecution and defense. areva, is this the right call? >> absolutely this is the right call. what we essentially had was an administrative law judge determining that this officer used a prohibitive chokehold on eric garner, and the use of that chokehold resulted in his death. and that's a form of misconduct under the policies and procedures for the new york police department that warrant him being dismissed. and i think what we should really -- we have to note in this case. this is not beyond reasonable doubt. this isn't a legal standard that would be appropriate if this were a civil court or a federal court. or if this were administrative court. this is an administrative proceeding determining whether a police officer was engaged in any form of misconduct. so that's what this administrative law judge determined and there's absolutely no reason for the police commissioner to override the determination of the judge that had every opportunity to weigh the evidence, to listen to the arguments made by both of the parties, to listen to the cross-examinations and to come to this decision. now to ask the judge to ask the
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police commissioner to set this judge's decision aside, i think is a slap in the face to this family and this community. >> do you think the commissioner should push this decision aside, jimmy? jimmy, let me go to jimmy. >> okay. >> so, chris, sober discussion, a life was lost. we have to look at this dispassionately and by the law. here's the thing, i argue when michael slager shot walter scott in the back in 2015 in north charleston that he should have gotten a life sentence. i argued when laquan mcdonald was shot in chicago a couple of years ago that he should have gone to jail for the rest of his life. >> this was not a judged to be a crime by the state or the feds. >> 100%. and let's look at it this way. the staten island grand jury looked at this and they could not vote a true bill. >> they didn't indict. >> the standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. in this instance it was a
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preponderance of the evidence more likely than not. here's what i'm going to argue. i can never ever argue that i understand what it's like to be a black man in america, i can't. and nor can some people who look at this case and try to assume what it's like to be a police officer in the city of new york. new york city has 35,000 police officers, the most diverse police department in the country. they are a model of restraint. what officer pantaleo did that day was respond to a call from a senior that suggested that he arrest a man for breaking the law. the law was minor, right? he was selling loose cigarettes, loosies, as we call them, which means they were taken outside of a pack of tax-stamped pack. >> penny-ante crime. >> but that was the law. and he was responding to that. when eric garner said don't touch me, please stop and you're not doing this to me today, he's 6'3", 350 pounds, he didn't attack the officers, but he refused to comply with lawful
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orders. what were the police supposed to do, chris? they couldn't walk away and leave him there on the sidewalk. >> but is this -- then we get into what are you supposed to do. one of the things i need to put aside, this isn't about whether or not he was going to be criminally responsible. that's over. it's not going to happen. i don't know what de blasio was talking about the other night when he said there's going to be justice. i guess justice may come in the form of him losing his job. we're showing people the video right here now, areva. and what happens, he resists arrest. he's upset about this. he thinks he's being harassed, whatever it is. once they start to try to arrest him, he does put his hands up, but then it's on. he's resisted and now they're trying to put him on the ground. what do you see here that you believe is a clear case of misconduct? >> the failure of the officers in this case to stop choking this man as he cried out not once, not twice, not five times, but 11 times, i can't breathe. i can't breathe. >> which has been cited as inappropriate.
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the emts didn't do the right thing. the official finding is. when he said i can't breathe, there should have been action by the police that was not taken, jimmy, how do you function that into calculus? forget about it being a crime. it's about how you did your job. you've got five guys on him. you're using a choke that you say was a seat belt choke. fairness, jimmy and i have a lot more experience with chokes and holds than a lot of other people. i don't know anything about a seat belt choke. anything that is a choke up around your neck. other things are called holds. he gets his arm up around his neck. he keeps his arm there a long several different times after the guy is saying he can't breathe. he's in a big group. the emts don't do the right thing. it's not all on pantaleo. what you saw in this video, when you know you're not supposed to have your arm around someone's neck, cutting off their airflow, why don't you see anything wrong being done? . >> chris, i look at it from this perspective. to date, we're just into august.
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there have been 70 police officers across the country that have lost their lives in line of duty deaths trying to make arrests. look, i don't believe that eric garner was looking to hurt the officers. he just refused to comply with lawful commands. pantaleo is significantly smaller than garner was. i believe he tried to wrestle him to the ground, and, look, garner -- >> there were five guys there. >> i agree -- >> diabetes, overweight and heart disease, all true. >> yes. and, chris, every time a guy told me the cuffs are on too tight, you're hurting my arm, but they still resisted. if eric garner said i'll fight this in court, i'm unhappy with this, and gone with the officers that day, all of this could have been prevented, chris. >> right. but the fact is if you resist arrest, you wind up dead. >> it could have been prevented if he had taken his arm off of the man's neck. you shouldn't die because you resist arrest. >> he's not arguing that. >> agreed. >> you said eric garner should have just fought this in court. the police officers, it's their obligations to deescalate this situation.
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they failed to take the appropriate action that led to this man's death and we're not asking the police commissioner to follow the recommendations of lay people. this is a trained administrative law judge whose job is to look at evidence and make these kinds of decisions. this is what she does for a living. his attorney, the officer's attorney had an opportunity to make his case. they failed to make a persuasive case. the case on behalf of the prosecutors was more persuasive, and that should be the ruling that stands in this situation. this man should lose his job. >> would you ever advise any of your clients to resist arrest and not comply with lawful commands on a lawful arrest? eric garner, as tragic as this is, caused the cascade of events that led to his death. and guess what, officer pantaleo's life will never be the same. he'll never work on the street again and he gets death threats every day. this is a tragedy all around, chris.
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>> areva martin, jimmy galliano, this is one of those tough ones. i appreciate you both taking it on. it's a benefit to the audience to hear the two sides of this situation. be well. have a good weekend. all right. different topic. you remember when andrew yang said to move to higher ground because we're too late? climate crisis is too far gone. he took heat for it, no pun intended. we tested him here about it. but there's a lot more water now in one of our oceans. this isn't about that climate change isn't real. it's about what we can do about it. i want to show you what happened in the last 24 hours. we're going to bring in laura coates, the upgrade for d. lemon, next. maria ramirez?
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and you know what happens, right? ice melts, ocean rises. all kinds of problems ensue. the likelihood of extreme weather events, coastal flooding, all increases. laura coates, you know, your background is obviously law, and this is a very interesting issue because it seems that no matter what data comes out, the conclusions of those who resist never change. >> i don't understand. i don't know how you can look at that, chris, and actually see that water flowing, it's like the idea of don't believe what your lying eyes are showing you. how can you look at that and see that 11 billion tons of water in one day are just going away, and knowing the impact long-term, i don't know how you can remain a denier. but it's a narrative that seems to help certain parties and i just don't know why it keeps going on. >> the question becomes, what's
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the upside of saying that there's no global warming? for you and me. what's the upside? why would i want to deny it. other than i'm so afraid of it. let's take that off the table. that's what i've never understood. why? >> you know what they say, everything comes back to the old mighty dollar. it maybe a trade, a policy, maybe it's just the idea of saying, look, whatever comes out of this messenger, i'm going to deny because i'm so with my -- my heels dug in, i cannot possibly convey to you that i'm going to believe and have common sense to what i see is obviously true. that's the only explanation in my mind. if you see that, chris, and you're a human being who resides on earth, i don't know how you can't say this is going to make
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me do anything about it. i just don't know. >> all the different technology that are threatened because -- they're going to get paid. there's going to be money to be made in that. that's the part i don't get. i don't get the president's resistance to it. problems with windmills. why does he lie so much about windmills. what do you have on the show? >> governor inslee on. his big platform issue is climate crisis and the nay sayers. i'll ask him questions because i want to know the answer. i really do. >> he's got a real plan on it. he dealt with it in his state. the upgrade. good to see you. >> nice to see you, too. >> all right, so, look i think you need to focus on these tough questions about racism and why the president is doing what -- you have to look at the why. don't get stuck up on what label to put on him. he says he wasn't being a wise guy with the too bad tweet on the cummings home burglary.
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all right. here's a friday night special for you. we burned a lot of calories on this one. here's what i argue. we're missing the point of what the problem is with the president's pattern of pounding people of color and the places they live. here is his best defense. >> i'm the least racist person there is in the world. as far as i'm concerned. >> first. this really matters. the least racist doesn't mean not racist. freud would call that a pa paraplaksis, google it. and the reality is reflected by so much of what this president says and does. takes us to his tweet this morning. really bad news! the baltimore house of elijah cummings was robbed. too bad. he says he wasn't being a wise guy. i accept that.
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what he was being is a demagogue. he's giving people that he thinks are predisposed to dislike people like cummings a curled lip chortle. but not everyone's laughing. last night the only republican african-american member of the house -- i said that too fast. the only african-american republican member of the hou house -- think about that when you're wondering why the party is so quiet, he said i'm not seeking re-election. so now what about all the non-white member of the congress on the republican side? how long do they believe they can stay quiet or parse or pretend that this is not about politics of division? what? you ignore, you empower and what you condone you own. but too many -- too many stop the damage at those who are being maligned and those who
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should stand up against it like i just did. however, i'll now argue we're leaving out an equally important component. don't be a sucker, my white brothers and sisters. the joke is on you, too. see the bigger problem. this president doesn't seem to feel a responsibility to deal with places like baltimore. it's another s-hole that s generates people we don't need apparently, that's why this president jokes about how bad it is there but has never told you a word how badly he feels about it or he's going to do something about it. why? here's why you should care, there are a lot of baltimores, too many, urban and rural. what's baltimore? budget too tight, teachers in short supply, stores and factories shuttered, not enough employment. many of you live in them of all colors. and if he doesn't care about baltimore, why would he care about where you live? because you're white?
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that tax cut wasn't targeted to you if you're in the middle class. 83 cents of every dollar went to the color he values most, green, the rich. why didn't every 83 cents of every dollar go to you in a tax cut that was billed as a middle class tax cut? how when you get 17 out of 83? 100 actually, right? ask yourself why does this president choose to lie to you like he did last night about the green card lottery system? here's what he said. >> you pick people out of the lottery but let's see this one is murderer, this one robbed poor banks, this one i better not say. >> do you really believe that there's no they, that it's a blind lottery? of course that's not the truth. they get the same background check as other legal immigrants. ask yourself, why does he want to assume that people like you will think that people who immigrate illegally or now legally are a threat?
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maybe because he's betting it is easier to get you to blame someone else for your problems than to blame him for not fixing them. but does he really think there are enough people in this country who will get duped by deceptive efforts to divide them? his singularly un-american appeal -- everything he says is not who we are. you have to know that. is he going to forget that he's supposed to be attacking problems and not just attacking us and what we're about? you have to ask yourself a question. isn't a president supposed to be someone who attacks racists most not simply self-described as less or least racist. this president wants this election to be about who's a problem instead of how we solve our problems. think about it and demand that he and all who want to lead do better than pointing out wha
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