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and guarantees for security at the get-go. and that's going to be part of the package deal for people to be willing to return from refugee camps. i think that ultimately, there's going ton an intensification of pressure against the myanmar government to find a way to make this work. and ultimately right now, i mean, i think we're seeing the initial offers. this is the myanmar government going over there, trying to do the afternoon to the rohingya refugees. it's good that they're doing ♪ that. but they'll have an offer which returning to to march for a is realistic to get the rohingya to accept. >> phil robertson, thank you again for your time. >> thank you. ninth straight week. it is an ecological disaster promoters on the right side of your screen. the pro democracy protesters unfolding right before our eyes. there. and on the left, pro-police these blazing wildfires in what is usually one of the coldest demonstrations. cnn, of course, live at both places in the world. that's only part of the story. events with the latest events . for you. carrying up to 50 times its body weight. free for now, american it never questions the tasks at hand.
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in the meantime, supporters of the city's police, they are we know their rates are good, holding another rally. we know that they're always going to take care of us. they're own rally in victoria it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. park. cnn covering both of those it was funny because when we would call rallies with our correspondents. another insurance company, matt risers live with the hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. pro-democracy protesters and our we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ben wedeman with of pro-police. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today. matt, with start with the sanctioned and unsanctioned ♪ protests, very important. we understand these protests are i wasyou could see the look in their eye, sanctioned just so long as like they recognize the smell on you people stay within that agreed-upon route? and they'd be like... >> reporter: yeah, that's and you just die a little inside exactly right, george, because you knew you, you offended someone. basically, what we are along right now, a pro- -- or a even though i know who i am and i love who i am and i'm very confident, protest that had been planned i really like took a hit from people's reactions out already. it was late last night, friday evening, that police gave this to the fact that i was a smoker. particular march route the go since i switched to juul, ahead. so this is a legal i don't even think twice about it. it's like a weight lifted off of you. demonstration. and to that end, we don't actually see much of a police you should be mad that this is your daily commute. presence at least at this point. it's been entirely peaceful. thousands if not tens of you should be mad at people who forget they're in public.
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thousands out here, i would say and you should be mad at simple things in what has been a march with a that are unnecessarily complicated. but you're not mad, because you're trading with e*trade, message, and would be complete withdrawal of the extradition which isn't complicated. their app makes trading quick bill that kicked off the and simple so you can strike when the time is right. protests more than two months ago. nine weeks ago. this is the ninth consecutive don't get mad, get e*trade and start trading today. weekend, george. the big question is, what happens if this goes into the night? what we've seen happen in the past, big peaceful marches just like this here. then the violence comes after police say, okay, this is no long a legal assembly. how many people will stay? how many people are here with a fight with police? we're not sure, but we know that the trend has been towards more violence. we saw it last weekend. and george, there's every possibility that we could see a similar situation here as the night continues. so bob, what do you take for back pain? >> again, matt, certainly does before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. play into this. we'll continue to follow it with you. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors better bring in our
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correspondent ben wedeman there for effective, non-addictive relief. as well. ben with the pro-police salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. demonstrations. hisamitsu. ben, what are police telling you? >> reporter: well, this is an at t-mobile, for $40/line for four lines, it's all included for the whole family. like unlimited with netflix on us. and now with each new line, interesting rally until favor of get one of our latest smartphones included. the police. what we know, many of them hear $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. to be here, let's move a little closer. many appear to be older than the average age of the protesters that matt is seeing in the other part of the city. here in victoria park, it's a largely older crowd. the crowd is starting to thin out. earlier there was perhaps 5,000 people here. now, it seems that some people are going home. but what we're hearing from people is they are worried about the stability of this special administrative area that is hong ♪ scientists have warned for kong, that since 1997 has been decades now that cutting down part of the system of one millions of trees will have an adverse effect on the earth's country, two systems, worked out climate. especially in places like the with britain back in 1997. amazon rain forest.
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recent satellite image it's reportedly show the rate of they're worried that the deforestation there has nearly economic prosperity that this territory has enjoyed could be doubled. over the past year alone, damaged by this civil unrest. brazil's president who promotes i was speaking to one gentleman, economic development in the amazon slammed the scientific a few years my senior, who told data, he called a lie. the head of brazil's space me that some of his younger agency which monitors the rain forest by satellite says he was relatives are, in fact, part of fired for defending the swelling the pro-democracy grit of his agency's latest findings. demonstrations. and that he's spoken with them climate change is also and told them he doesn't have a causing the ice to melt in problem with protests, what he's greenland. worried about is disorder. and he suggested that those more in alarming amounts. take a look at this, scientists say greenland's ice sheet unruly elements in the experienced its biggest melt in pro-democracy movement could benefit by going to mainland the summer. on thursday it lost 11 billion china where he said they might tons, that's equivalent to more get some sort of education. than 4 million olympic swimming but in general, george, what we're seeing is that older pools. all gone in one day. people who, many of them moved experts say because of recent from mainland china their heat waves in europe and around the world, july is one of the younger years, are still showing
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hottest months in history. their affiliation, their loyalty greenland's ice sheet is the second largest in the world. to china, whereas, many of the and this season's melt has raised sea levels. younger people who don't really russia battling a climate have that connection are very emergency in the arctic right now. out of control wildfires have much taking part enthusiastically in his been raging in siberia since pro-democracy movement, george. >> ben wedeman live at the june. and melting permafrost is pro-police rally. ben, thank you. matt, one other question to you, releasing dangerous carbon look, we've seen the clashes with police as you point out as dioxide in the atmosphere. it gets later there in the evening, these clashes tend to ivan cabrera is here. take place. >> it's all connected, george we saw a few weeks ago the with the ice that has an impact clashes with the triad, the as well. with the fires and tropics as organized crime groups. here's the question, given that well. you know what we tell folks, you the protest today is happening know when you have a heat wave in such a crowded, such a dense out there, wear light colored district, is there a concern about safety among the protesters? clothing. >> reporter: yeah, there that's the al. absolutely is. i mean, these streets here, this is a very densely crowded part we bedo effect. of hong kong. and it's one of the most crowded that reflects 80% of the
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areas in terms of people per coloration coming in. that's absorbed and does not go square kilometer, anywhere in the world. and these are small tight away by absorbed into the streets. so there's absolutely a concern planet. you see the faster melts, you have more time for the ocean amongst the protesters that will itself, not the sea ice to stay and could clash with police over safety. absorb the radiation. and to that end, we have seen in fact, only 10% is reflected people who do appear gearing up for a fight. they've got elbow pads on, back. the reason that's happening as they've got helmets, they've got george mentioned we're continuing to warm the planet masks for the tear gas that will and hot, dry summers that allows likely be deployed. they've got knee pads on, fires to get out of control in places you normally wouldn't clearly there are people think of. concerned about their safety. siberia, yes, it did start here we've seen police be willing to because of lightning, a natural meet force with force. phenomenon. we do get fires in siberia. use tear gas, batons, rubber but what we don't get is a very hot extended dry summer. and that primes the force for bullets. slz absolute a concern of the fires to ultimately spread. and we also had gusty winds that protesters and office of the did not help those at all. police what could be at risk. this is you should we've burned >> matt rivers following that so far. live and ben wedeman as well. nothing significant. thank you, gentlemen, for but the smoke is going to continue to be the issue reporting. earlier, i spoke with a throughout the weekend.
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this is the trend, by the way, we'll go from cool to hot. lawmaker in hong kong. this is what's unusual. also the vice chairman for the you continue to seat warm spells and heat weave waves impacting dmv, that's the large party that northern hemisphere. saidle that empeople are not i do want to take you to the happy with the violence and disruption in the neighborhoods tropics. with the protests. listen. >> you may see over the past few erick, 40-mile-per-hour winds weekends, violence has erupted the same winds pushing to the throughout the city. and we don't want to see that southeast are impacting with the carry on. and if that goes down, that big island here but the storm is people decide to go down that moving away. the surf continues to be up. so there's hawaii. path, i think that we've it will erick is gone but flossie. eventually ruin the entire city. first of all, we want the people to step back and think and calm down and this is not the right way to carry on for the violence. 60-mile-an-hour winds. it will be hitting the islands >> earlier in the week there was by the time we get into early part of next week with gusty winds high surf and tropical a warning from china's military downpours as well. my goodness, then there's the that increased the worry that western pacific. they could intervene in these one storm in the south china protests. is that something that you would sea. one we're watching east of the
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like to see? >> well, i don't think the pla will come in and deal with the philippines. and then francisco will be demonstrations or the violence heading out to japan as a in hong kong, because we trust that the hong kong police is typhoon. able to deal with the entire we'll leave you with this, situation. tropical atlantic is getting and, of course, under the one development he 40% of a patrtropical wave. country/two systems, we have our hong kong government and our i got it all in there, fire, sea hong kong police to deal with the situation. so, i don't think the pla will ice and tropics. we're busy here. come in and deal with the >> ivan, thank you. situation here. but what i would say is, of thank you for being with us. the news continues after this. course, right now, we see the angry crowd. and we have always been urging ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! the public to step back and think and calm down. because even if you have a very ...barb! you left me hangin' on the high harmony there. righteous motive, if you decide to carry on with all this if you ride, you get it. violence, eventually it will ruin the entire city. geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. >> again, that was holden chow speaking with me earlier.
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>> u.s. president typically even on nights and weekends. calling things he does not like today's xfinity service. simple. easy. awesome. fake or unfair. th landmark i'd rather not. nuclear weapons agreement with russia, threatening more tariffs on chinese imports and also announcing a deal to sell more american beef overseas. we've got more now from cnn's pamela brown with this story from the white house. >> wonderful day, and a wonderful deal for a lot of people. >> reporter: president trump touted the art of his deal. this time, enabling american ranchers to export beef to the european union and other world markets. >> you've never seen anything like that happen before, have you? not with your other presidents, you haven't. >> reporter: but news of the president eight beef deal comes as negotiations with china and russia reach a breaking point. another presidential nominee for a very important job being >> until such time as there is a pulled from consideration. deal we will be taxing the hell >> i felt that congressman r out of china, that's all there is, okay? >> reporter: trump's surprising ratcliffe was being treated globaling markets thursday by
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tweeting he's adding a 10% unfair tariff on $300 billion worth of unfairly. >> he strikes me as extremely unqualified in every way. chinese goods which includes >> puerto rico has a new toys, shoes, laptops and yes, governor. this comes after iphones. saying china is not, quote, afraid of a fight adding countermeasures will be necessary. russia is fighting mad, too. calling it, quote, serious mistake for the u.s. to formally withdraw from the imf treaty. a nuclear pact made in 1987. >> trust but verify. >> reporter: the end of that trust. >> russia shamelessly violates it. >> reporter: as promised the president abandoned the paris climate accord. and renegotiated nafta. >> nafta has been a catastrophe for our country. >> reporter: as for his nuclear deal with north korea -- >> we had a great relationship, singapore was a great success.
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>> reporter: the president today feeting, kim jong-un and north korea tested three short-range missiles over the last number of days. these missiles at the time are not a violation of our agreement. adding chairman kim does not want to disappoint me with a violation of trust. a senior administration official tells me that the way the administration views the short-range missiles is that north korea is trying to get the president's attention. sending a message, but that in the administration, the view is as long as they aren't long-range missiles that can reach the united states, the posture will be the same with the president, basically downplaying it, saying it's not a violation of his agreement with kim jong-un. pamela brown, cnn, the white house. >> pamela there reporting with sfakts. let's put it into facts with
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leslie. let's talk about the president's deals, from his negotiations to north korea to his approach with tariffs in china a big unconventional, compared to his predecessor, the question is, is it working for him? >> yeah, undoubtedly, this president has taken a number of positions that the u.s. government has stayed firm on for quite a long time. and he's undone them, whether it's walking away from the imf agreement. or pulling out of the iran deal, and we're seeing conventions broken, deals broken, but we're not seeing alternatives put in place that demonstrate any prospect for success. we're no closer to a china deal. we're seeing grave instability. feeling very uncertain, not feeling like they're part of the
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consultation, tensions with iran much greater with any clear alternative in place. what this president has done, he's moved the needle. if you go back to the democratic debates that you saw a few days ago, very few candidates are saying they would go back to the old iran deal that they would take america back into the deal that they would renegotiate and push harder. at the cost arguably of a considerable amount of stability, and he's created a lot of global uncertainty. >> i also want to get your perspective, leslie, on the texas representative john ratcliff, that the president announce head would nominate to take over for dan coats as the director of national intelligen intelligence. now, he's out of the running, president trump saying scrutiny for ratcliff's experience was
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overv overrated. your thoughts? >> this is a good thought. the candidate has stood down his experience, relative to the significance of the role. remember that the dni oversees 60 agencies, a budget, arguably, one of the most critical times in intelligence when it comes to any number of global concerns, north korea, iran, terrorism. so it's the right result. but the process is deeply flawed. a president who didn't adequately vet his candidate, who appears to have selected him because he made him feel comfortable. it was senate republicans who simply didn't back this choice because, of course, the support for the dni have generally been -- bipartisan people realize how important this post is. >> finally here, the number of
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democrats who want to make the case for impeachment. that number has now grown to reach a majority in the house. here's the list here. nowhere near the 218 needed. but again, 118 democrats now say they want to push for impeachment, except for the house speaker nancy pelosi. still pushing members to be patient. but with this growing pressure to impeach, can pelosi still hold the line on that issue? >> well, i think, you know, pelosi is watching this. she's allowing congress to do what is required to hich is ove investigations to continue to engage and consider this issue. but she's very cognizant, as she should be. first that person opinion, by pretty much every poll, still, the majority of americans don't want to see impeachment. she's cognizant of the potential electoral effects both for individual members of quocongre but as the party as a whole.
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presidential elections forthcoming. and she's cognizant of the feeling that regardless of what the house does it's unlikely that this president will get impeached. she's taking it a measured way. but the pressure is significant, it's growing. and i think the key thing here, those investigations in that oversight role continues to move forward. >> are the democrats really facing the dilemma here to either push forward the issues that matter to their voting bloc, or to either impeach, you know, the u.s. president. it will be interesting to see which message they choose moving into the 2020 election. leslie vi leslie, we appreciate your time. on the election of puerto rico, a new governor has taken office but not everyone is happy about that choice. we'll tell you what people are saying and why they're protesting there. also, a new california law
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forces presidential candidates to reveal their tax return. but critics say the law is aimed at one candidate in particular. we'll look at how it might affect the president's chances next year. live around the world and in the united states, you're watching "newsroom." . and now with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. so bob, what do you take for back pain? before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu. i can't remember when he didn't smoke. i feel like we do so much together now because if he would go outside, i'd be bored. in all reality, my wife who is the most important person in my life was the key driver into me switching.
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a new political deal. hundreds of people killed the streets in khartoum friday. this after a mediator announced a final declaration had been reached. it would pave the way for transitional government there for that country. officials of the military council and the opposition are meeting to work out details for a signing ceremony. sudan has seen weeks of protests, some of those protests violent since the ouster of the president uma al bashir in april. now to puerto rico, a new governor has been sworn in, pedro pierre luisi took the office, he's replacing ricardo r ru
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r ru rossello stepped down. >> reporter: protests are going on as they say pedro pierluisi will be the new governor, after governor rossello stepped down. people here are not happy with that election and questioning the constitutionality of that decision. they're saying pierlpierluisi wt appointed by the house. the senate said they will not consider it until next week. it's if the protest, are questioning the result of this election or whether they say they're not happy, staying there on the streets to continue on a
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island that can get rid of corruption. very much a lot of uncertainty still, on the island of puerto rico, as they figure out what's next for the island. in san juan, puerto rico, leyla santiago, cnn. >> thank you. the u.s. president once promised to reveal his tax returns. but since taking office, he has fought to keep them hidden. a new law in california, however, may force him to reveal all, and if he doesn't it could cost him millionsing of votes in the next election. our kyung lah has the story. >> reporter: the latest battle for president trump's taxes. governor gaffen newsom signed a bill that requires presidential and gubernatorial candidates to release their tax returns in order to qualify for the state's 2020 primary ballot. >> you have a right as an american citizen what's going on. you have a right to know. >> reporter: this latest move
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pits newsom in another and more personal fight with trump, as california dives into the trump tax battle. >> federal government is not able for tors his hand, california will. >> reporter: state senator mike mcgwire introduced the bill and saying it's all about presidential transparency. >> if you're a democrat or a republican, you can choose not to release your tax forms, but you simply won't be on the california ballot. >> reporter: there's one person who vehemently resisted releasing his tax returns. >> we all know that's hog wash. >> reporter: four years trump has refused to budge. >> i would love to give them, but i'm not going to do it. it's very simple. >> reporter: to force trump hand's states are jumping in. this year, states introduced similar bills, california is expected to face legal challenges but democrats say they're not worried. >> this bill applies to all
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candidates, it doesn't discriminate. that's why i believe that this bill will be ruled constitutional. >> reporter: the state gop disagrees noting that california's previous governor jerry brown detailing a slippery slope precedence. what is this truly about? >> i think it's clearly a vendetta with president trump. >> reporter: a cnn poll earlier this year found 66% of americans believe president trump should release his tax returns, 32% says he should not. brian jones said if trump's name isn't on the state ballot, all his party can do is use it as a tool to energize the gop base. >> people are like, okay, i don't like trump, but i don't like this idea of the state or majority party overreaching so i'm going to go vote just to
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show my distaste of this particular process. >> reporter: jay sekulow released a statement saying trump's attempt to circumvent the constitution will be met with legal action. they're hoping to have some sort of answer before california's primary on super tuesday. kyung lah, cnn, denver. a u.s. rapper is freed from a swedish jail. also one of the families of the two american teens held in the stabbing death of an italian policeman now speaking out. the latest from rome, as "cnn newsroom" live continues.
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welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world, you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from the atl. i'm george howell. the headlines we're following for you this hour, it is the ninth straight weekend of major demonstrations in hong kong. this image, live at 5:32 p.m. there in hong kong. a lot of people there. these protesters marching in one of the city's most crowded districts. they're fighting for more democratic rights and less political influence from beijing. now this is also a separate pro-police rally that's taking place in victoria park at this hour. and we're following both. three people died when a cliff collapsed into a beach this happening in encinitas, california, that collapse leaving a lot of debris, as you see there on the beach. five people were rescued from
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the rubble. on capitol hill, the talk of impeachment is getting louder. take a look at the list here. a majority of democrats in the house of representatives, 118 have come out so far in favor of opening a formal inquiry that has come up significantly since the mueller report was released. it indicated numerous cases of obstruction of justice by the trump white house. an american rapper is back in the united states after spending the past month in a swedish jail. we're talking about asap rocky who arrived in los angeles just a few hours ago, this, after a judge in sweden, allowed him to return home to await the verdict of his assault case. he and two other people are accused of assaulting a man during a street fight in stockholm. selma aziz following the story. what's the latest? >> well, his jet landed in l.a. just a few hours ago in the very early hours of the morning. and it really closes at least one of the chapters in the saga
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that's attracted the fans and celebrities and donald trump himself. it was a moment in court when the judge did say that asap rocky could go back to the states. his supporters cheered and aplotted. his mother could be seen crying. take a listen to what his lawyers say. >> we have two goals. one goal is that my client is going to be a free man today. that's how we will proceed. and then we're hoping for an acquittal in 14 days, but we have to wait and see. >> 30-year-old rapper had spent about a month in jail. this is after an altercation broke out between asap rocky, his friend and a 19-year-old afghan man. the teenager accused asap rocky of beating him up and hitting him with a glass bottle. asap rocky denied using a glass bottle as a weapon said he was
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acting in self-defense and felt tlaenl threatened by the fan. over the proceeding, video footage was carefully reviewed with a more than 500-page report including photographs of the alleged victim's injury. president trump was heavily involved for the release of asap rocky taking to twitter. even spending his special envoy for hostage affairs to intervene. that envoy did send a letter to the special prosecutor's office say it could potentially harm the bilateral relationship between the two countries if it was not resolved. for now, asap rocky will wait and get a final verdict in about two weeks' time. george. >> selma abdelaziz live for us in the london bureau. thank you. now to the killing of an italian police officer. the parents of one of the two american suspects wants the
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prosecution to produce video evidence showing the crime. the officer was stabbed 11 times. this happening on july 26, during a drug bust that went wrong. cnn's melissa bell following the story live in rome. and melissa, what is the latest? these parents, of course, speaking out. and they want to see exactly how all of this transpired. >> reporter: that's right, george. more specifically, this is finnegan elder's father as he set off having visited with his son two consecutive days at the prison when finnegan was held, leaving the matter in the hands of the italian lawyer who represent him throughout the process. he issued this statement before he left, wishing to see more of that video. specifically at the heart of this are those cctv cameras that would have been trained on this particular spot which is specifically where the confrontation took mart between
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mario rega and two american teens. what the parents of the teens want to see, watt lawyers want to see is the evidence against them. for the time being what we have is the version of the italian prosecutors and what's been published in by the ruling judge so far. we've heard very little from the lawyers and we've heard from the defense of their frustration of not getting access already to some of the evidence on the two teens. on the question of what cctv furnished, and what be published specifically from the judge, is that one of the cameras that may have resolved this, just in front of a bank that would have shown clearly what was going on here was apparently out of order. until the defense gets its hands on it's hard to work out what they're going to do. we do have an idea from the line of defense since we've heard from within the documents about
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the testimony of the two boys saying when they were confronted with these two out of uniform police officers, they had felt threatened. exactly what transpired in those minutes before rega was stabbed, that's at the heart of this in that until then, we're only hearing one side. >> melissa bell, thank you. human rights watch group calls a so-called charm offensive by myanmar's government to slowly bring them back, they are questioning that. thousand of rohingya minute majority refugees are live ing in limbo. more about that story, next.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." i'm george howell. in bangladesh, thousands of rohingya refugees are stilling in makeshift tents there. myanmar's officials visited the squalid tents to discuss plans with leaders. rohingya refugees pled to bangladesh. the rohingya also want to be recognized as an ethnic group and the right to full citizenship. >> we are trying to explain to them, what are the possibility of citizenship. so, according to the law, they may not be entitled to the full-fledged citizenship. but they are entitled to nationalized citizen shi. a eventually, their sons and daughters and grand sorries and granddaughters will be invited
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to full-fledged citizenship. >> rohingya leaders say they refused that offer to back with a national identification card which means they're less than full citizens of their home country. >> translator: but they are they don't accept that we are citizens of our country. we want our citizenship card. we will not accept the mbc residence card. we are the indigenous rohingya. we do not accept his paper. we don't agree. >> translator: if we accept the mbc card and go back, they will then slaughter and kill us. we will not go. our demand to move there, myanmar, as free as other communities, we want to get back home. we want to move freely. our people must get jobs in every sector of the golf like the military, police and others. then we will go back. >> let's talk more with phil robertson. phil is the deputy director of the asia division for human
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rights watch and joining from us bangkok, good to have you with us. phil, clearly there is a great deal of lack of trust when it comes to officials, rohingya are really concerned about trust. tell us more about this concern that they have, when it comes to this offer of a national verification card. >> yes, unfortunately, there is a great deal of distrust. it's connected to the rohingya not believing, based on the historical evidence, they will be able to go through a citizenship verification process that will be fairly agitating. and the situation is one where we have seen time and time again that promises has been made to the rohingya and then broken by the burmese government. so we're not surprised that they're agreeing to this nbc,
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and frankly, it's their right to have citizenship before they decide to return to their state in burma. >> let's talk about the difference with this offer that they have, and what they want to be recognized as full citizens of their country. >> that's right. they want to have citizenship guaranteed to them. they don't want to have it under the 1982 citizenship act which doesn't recognize the rohingya. the requirements for the naturalized citizenship that the official from the myanmar government was speaking about was to prove that they have residents in these areas going back to the british colonial times, and frankly, that's impossible to do. so there's a bait and switch being played here with the myanmar government. the rohingya want citizenship guaranteed and they want their security guaranteed. they don't want to be put back under in the control of the military of police raping and killing them two years ago.
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>> when you consider the conditions they're presently in, you understand how difficult it would be for them to meet those requirements. let's talk about where they are presently and how difficult daily life is for the rohingya. i'm not sure if we lost -- >> well, they are in a very difficult situation in those refugee camps in bangladesh. many of them lost everything they owned when they were burned out of their homes in northern state. they are facing a dire situation, where they will not bee originally from. and they're worried they will be put in detention camps. similar to what the rohingya who fled from the center part of the state back in 2012.
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there's still 120,000 of them locked down in ivp camps surrounded by barbed wire and military. so there's no real trust among the rohingya by what is being promise by the government and they have a lot of reasons to be distrustful. >> so, if they don't accept this present offer, they're thought given the full citizenship that they want, then what is next for this group, as they remain in the present state of limbo? >> i think they would remain as refugees until the international community can ultimately persuade the myanmar government to improveizenships
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