decades a man who has a passion for el paso and the people of this town. and it's your great mayor who will speak next. >> thank you, governor. we appreciate your attendance here under these circumstances. this is cnn breaking news. this is a tough time for el you're live here in the cnn newsroom i'm wolf blitzer in paso. washington. something none of us would have we want to welcome our viewers ever imagined. in the united states and around the world. my condolences and prayers go we're following very sad out to all of el paso as we breaking news out of el paso, texas. where a gunman opened fire at a mourn those who have been shopping center. impacted by this tragedy. the texas attorney general ken paxton just told me moments ago adare and i with the rest of el at least 15, maybe 19 people are paso will pray for and mourn those who we lost. now confirmed dead. no exact numbers yet. we will remember their lives and honor their memories together. we expect to get specific numbers fairly soon and update our community will not be from police and local hospital defined by in senseless, evil authorities any moment now. area hospitals say at least 22 act of violence.

people were injured in the mass we will be defined by the unity shooting. there is indication it could be and compassion we showed in the many more than that. wake of this tragedy. and a quick word of warning to our viewers. some of you may find videos of united our community will heal. the shooting very disturbing. el paso is too strong to be broken by a cowardly act like >> help. this one. i want to assure the el paso >> we need cpr. >> help. >> you can see victims lying on community that we are safe. the ground in the first troefg we are safe. moments of this horrific attack. thank you to the el paso police many families were in the middle department and our law of school supply shopping. enforcement partners for their school supposed to begin in el paso a week from monday. swift response and assistance. one witness described seeing the i will now turn it over to chief shooter. allen for specifics. >> he is going for ballad. he is going for death. >> thank you, mayor. he that's his favorite thing right now. he wants the blood lust. active shooter call went out he wants to fulfill. this morning to 911 at 10:39 i see the people start running you could hear the he starts a.m. pop, pop, pop. police response first officer on he is going for -- trigger the seen was 10:45 a.m., a finger, going, going, going. that's what we heard. heard people yelling run,

6-minute response time. shooter. from this shooter we have 20 heard the gunshots. as we got close to the back we confirmed fatalities. didn't hear much i'm going. and we have 26 wounded. i'm going. >> authorities at delsol hospital in el paso having a the ages and genders of all the nurse conference updating us on people injured and killed, are victims right now. >> also we'd like to reneson are numerous, in the age groups, the recognize the performance of the fire department. without their terrific w able tr situation needless to say is a job. we received 11 patients at the hospital here today ageing from. horrific one. crime scene is being assisted by the fbi, various law enforcement they are being managed in ourow. agencies respond to the scene, the sheriffs department, dps, two patients are in stable condition. border patrol, everyone that carries a badge in this town seven patients are in -- nine pretty much showed up to that patients in critical condition. particular scene. and two -- three of the patients but needless to say the scene is a horrific one. unfortunately because of the are really in a life-threatening nature of the situation. the scene will be in play for a predicament right now. we took seven patients to the

long period. operating room today. they underwent a number of unfortunately the deceased will procedures by a number of remain at the scene until the different specialists. scene is processed properly for and it's expected that over the course of the next several days evidentiary purposes to be we will need to do ongoing gathered for later prosecution. the state of texas will be the procedures on many of the lead agency or entity patients. i think the community of el paso prosecuting this has a nexus at should be very proud of the trauma system that is here on a hate crime. their behalf to take care of the fbi will be looking into them. i'm extremely grateful for the that with other federal authorities. right now we are looking at commitment by hca health care to potential capital murder charges for this individual. i'm not going to give you his have a level ii trauma center name right now. he is a 21-year-old white male here to be able to take care of patients in times like this. out of allen, texas. and i'm very proud to be a part of that team. and with that, i'll -- i'm i'll turn it over back to david sorry -- turn this over to chief for any further questions. >> thank you, doctor. happy to take a couple of

questions. >> do you believe the doctors and nurse attention were called in or came in to help. >> i don't have exact numbers. augstino. >> i want and mayor said as wel. but a significant number. i mean, we had a -- many this activated the skm system and it was successful. surgical specialists wsh general getting crews on the scene within 6 minutes hundreds of surgeons, trauma surgeons, responders not just from local but state and federal as they orthopedic. you areologists, and theelgz. said. as tragic as it is, luckily we had no first responders injured in the events. but it does take a toll. i'd ask the community keep their thoughts and prayers not only with victims and families who we this had our others came from lost lives that were injured but with the first responders as delosl. >> i saw multiple police officers coming through the well. with that i turn it over to the doors. some specialist police officers fbi special agent in charge. with weapons and is you have. was there a threat to the >> thank you. my name is emerson bui aechlt. hospital any threat in the area? >> we wanted to make sure that the hospital and grounds and everything were safe. as a member of this community for the last two years words just -- it's a precaution we end cannot express how i feel right now because this community has up taking. i don't know that there were any other threats. embraced me with open arms. and i frankly can't really comment on that. and i share the sentiments of >> can you talk about the ages of the children. >> we didn't actually end up everyone at the table as to how

getting any of the children we all feel for the families and here. i can't speak to that. the victims today. >> clarify what stable condition the fbi as a federal law means? i know earlier there were some enforcement agency responsible for a number of jurisdictions people in serious condition but has come in to assist with the other federal agencies as well stable. as state and other local does that mean that they will agencies just to provide support make it through. in the investigation as this >> stable condition is there is no immediate threat to life at murder investigation continues, as well as lack at other aspects this point. critical condition is just that, of the investigation that could potentially be looked at from a federal standpoint. critical. >> how many patients were the investigation is still early gunshot one patient. >> i'm not entirely certain. on. the primary concern of course is >> tagging off the gunshot the victims, making sure they receive the care and courtesy wounds. i assume bullets were removed that they deserve. and as we continue to move could you tell the caliber if through this investigation we there were bullets remove. will provide updates along with >> i'm not certain. our other partners. >> can you tell us about the teamwork of your victim how they >> we'll take a few questions. came together to help. >> absolutely. you know, the unfortunately reality is this is the world we live in. >> it would be best for the fbi we prep and drill for this. to answer that question. we ended up participating in a >> would you he want repeat the citywide statewide mass casualty question. >> the reason you call this a hate crime, what's the evidence? incident with drilling around

active shooter. >> first and foremost i did not this was last october and call it a hate crime. incredible participation. i said we are looking at other this went as flawlessly as what aspects to ensure what potential it could. again, i could not be more proud vials are out there before we of the team. can label any type of we have some surgeons who are investigation. we have to ensure that the former military, some who are evidence and the precursors are still active duty military who there and they have to be reviewed to make sure that we have been deployed in -- in are executing and moving in the afghanistan and in iraq. right direction. so at this point in time we are and their comments around the reviewing all the evidence that level of engagement and how we have collected so far. we're pursuing other leads. this -- how we were able to care we have mobilized additional for the patients was second to none. >> how is it important to officers for assistance in that prepare for it and unfortunately vein and will conduct it happens. investigations like incidents. but how does it help you when he it happens? >> it helps for us to be able to >>? a terrorist investigation. coordinate everything from >> one second. making sure the blood products and sterile supplies we right now it's a murder investigation. there is potential for a number need for operative procedures we of different other types of violations. and we are reviewing all the have all of those and know what to do for massive transfusion, evidence to make a determination as to what potentially else is out there in addition to the for multiple cases going at the same time. that's what we prep for. violations that have been stated

>> and end up being close by or that the local authorities are pursuing. and in that vein we will assist on stand by. >> yes as a level ii trauma them in that effort as we work center there is requirements we together with state and local have for inhouse trauma teams as and other federal agencies all over the country to do. well as -- as well as folks that and we will keep you updated as are on stand by and on call. the investigation proceeds. >> are you asking for blood donations. >> certainly blood donations >> right now we have a manifesto from this individual that will be helpful. >> where? indicates to some degree he has >> i'm not -- i'm not entirely a nexus to potential hate crime. certain. i believe the united blood i didn't mean to step on the fbi services and i don't know where else to necessarily go. >> are there any patients sent toes on that but we are taking it down the road of a murder to other medical centers. >> yes. >> other than ulc. >> i'm not aware. investigation with numerous casualties as i said the state of texas will be the lead i'm not aware. prosecuting agency in in. >> do you have any patients passed away here. >> no we're incredibly proud to >> chief what's the hate crime say all of the patients brought specifically. >> pardon me, sir. >> what's the nature of the hate to us with god's good grace are crime. >> i can't get into specifics on that because we have to validate for certainty that this was the still alive. manifesto from this individual that we have arrested. >> thank you again i couldn't be so with that in play we still more proud of our team. have to be aware of the fact that this person is still entitled to fair process as far

et cetera truly a tragedy. as the law. we don't want to complicate that by making any statements right and el paso should be incredibly now that might be tainting the proud to have a system and a team that has been able to address this the way we have. again, i'm -- with good's good investigation. >> would you mind repeepting. grace all patients will end up >> were there any mexican citizens either fatality or casualties. >> we are not able to ascertain surviving and i couldn't be more proud. that right now, simply because >> what about family members can they come and ask for. hospitals will not release that >> we have had family members. information to us specifically. there is a phone number, >> can you confirm the number of locations where the shootings occurred and the types of weapons used in. 9159-263-6999 for patient >> again, those are details that hotline. we have been working to able to identify patients and family we're going to keep under play members. >> is it just immediate family right now as far as the investigation goes. or can you say -- family members we have one weapon that was put on social media. could be dsh dpsh. i'm sure you're aware of that, >> any family can call. >> can you repeat the number. which was an ak-47. >> 915-263-6999. we don't know if those pictures released in social media were the actual individual. >> thank you. so right now, again, going back >> anything else you want to say to the fair process for this doctor. >> there you have the latest individual, we don't want to taint the investigation by from the dell sol medical

center. matter of factly saying things 11 patients there. right now. >> without getting too detailed? two are in stable condition. nine he says are in critical condition. three of those nine are in how could this have happened -- life-threatening situations right now. we are hoping they survive. we were also told just a little [ inaudible ] >> would you mind repeating that. >> i know you can't get into too while ago by the attorney general of texas, ken paxton we many specifics but this one individual and the fire power interviewed him. he said at least 15 people he they had, how is that able to has been told are dead. maybe 19. let them -- that number clearly could >> the capability of the weapon allowed that. and then his intent and the increase. location where he chose was a shim shimon prokupecz. we are told the suspect the wal-mart, a supermart where people are in large numbers 21-year-old white male is being interviewed by authorities. there. i you're firing randomly at >> i think that's important and significant piece of detail we people you can cause a lot of are getting from the attorney damage. >> would you chalk this up to -- general. it would seem by the words that the suspect here is cooperating with investigators. >> again. >> the tactic -- they're going to be able to [ inaudible ] >> no. learn quite a lot of information >> to be fair there was only one if he is in fact answering suspect not another suspect. >> again the initial information questions about motive, about coming in was several suspects.

when he decided to do this. that information was put out to how did he arrive to the scene? the field. we had misleading information we know there was a car. he -- it would appear he going to different locations as surrendered without incident. far as supermart, costco was a that is going to be significant location. because in a lot of the types of dillards was another. everyone wab was responding to shooting, wolf, as you know, the that that. social media somewhat influenced that. but in the final analysis of all shooters don't vendor they are this the suspect was arrested at sun mount. taking their own life or taken taken down by police. they have a lot of other and in vicount on the west side information. there are the online writings that they believe is linked to him and can speak to motive. of the wal-mart. >> was he arrested by el paso they are poring through that. perhaps they are sitting with police officers. him going through what he wrote >> arrested by el paso police officers. >> yes. there going through his >> and i think the governor thinking. mentioned that he disarmed they seem to have been making progress here in this himself on their command. investigation. the big thing now that we are >> he surrendered to the waiting for is the press approaching officers. >> and he was still armed at conference with the governor and the other elected officials and that time. >> i don't know that matter of the authorities there. factly but he surrendered to ols this is now almost 7 hours into this. on being seen. we are waiting for the >> right now only one. authorities there, the elected officials to tp finally come out >> there was a honda accord at and brief us on exactly the scene. >> you're asking for specifics everything. >> we are told there will be a

news conference with authorities at the bottom of the hour maybe right now. right now that's under investigation. about 20 minutes or so from now. >> the white man with the manifesto is becoming we'll have live coverage of that. i want to speak with an eye increasingly common threat in the united states it feels like. witness. but once again at the dell sol what can we do to prevent this hospital 11 patients ranging from happening in the future? from 35 to 82. >> that's for a psychologist to and at the university medical answer. center of el paso 13 victims that's something that is definitely i think in play. were brought there. but that's beyond my skill set . unfortunately one has since died. two of them were children. they've been transferred to the children's medical center in el paso. there are 10 others in there various stages. but it shows how random the [ inaudible question ] >> i only caught the tail end of ages, how random -- from children to at least one person that, map. >> we train for active shooters events all the time. 82 years old. this individual went in there as i have said, to my staff and and started shooting people to the department we train for randomly. >> one of the things that got me this. not expecting it to happen. was when the police -- the but nonetheless we have to prepare for it to happen. and we try to get the community public information officer from el paso was talking about the as much involved as we possibly wal-mart was at capacity. as we've been saying. can to participate in the events >> as many as 3,000 shoppers so thatt this were in the wal-mart. and 100 employees. >> back to school shopping too. you're going to see kids. potentially might happen. parents bringing kids to buy >> what are you planning to do

supplies. it could be clothing, anything. to eain in our community? it's an exciting time for a lot of families for kids going back >> this -- responding to a to school. it's an opportunity to go situation like this to try to make sthur it doesn't happen shopping. so you had a lot of families in again is a replication ofway we there. and when you look at the video went through during the last of people hiding and running, legislative session. there are so many people that it was made a year ago when we were there and around the area at the time. had the horrific traejd of many, many people injured, we're not -- we're not even at a point shooting at santa fe high school that led to three days of where we have a definitive hearings that i conducted at the number on the injured because some people took themselves to capital to get input from people the hospital we're told by the who are educators, students, who police there. that's what they were doing, are victims of shooting crimes still trying to gather the number of injured. as well as experts in all and the number of injured is different kinds of fields to help us be able to strategize only going to grow. like the hospital official there the best ways to keep students said, they have three people with life threatening injuries, safe and to prevent incidents three people fighting to like from happening again. survive. they've had surgeries. that led to hearings conducted there is still a lot here that by the legislature before the session began. can happen. then additional hearings. and certainly i think for the community it's going to be a and then legislation that was very difficult, difficult time. passed by the state of texas and >> people are watching all oefrp the country. and wondering is it safe to go is now law that includes bill to the local shopping mall and after bill after bill that makes

do school shopping for the kids? sure that we are doing more than stand by. joining us on the phone right ever before to keep students now is tab igta estrada. safe at school. during that time we did not as she was at the front of the wal-mart when the shooting far as i know evaluate for and began. first of all, how are you doing plan for an incident like this. that said, i can tell you that tabitha, i think we lost our perhaps the most profound and connection. agreed upon issue that came out we'll try to reconnect. of all of the hearings was the shimon, as we hear the stories though, of people waiting with need for the state and for kids. holding hands, walking around society to do a better job for wanting to get school supplies, clothing, new clothes for skoom. dealing with challenging metal health based issues. it's an exciting time. >> it is. we know that's a component to >> all of a sudden somebody comes in and starts -- we hear shootings that take place in the stories -- unfortunately we schools. it probably is a component to a hear them over -- and every few shooting that takes place any months there is a horrific place, including the shooting event. >> last sunday at a food that it took place in sutherland festival i worked on that story. at the end of a food festival where someone opened fire on people. and then you have this morning springs. in this past session we passed a early, 10:00 a.m. in el paso.

i was talking to folks familiar lot of legislation and provided with in area. they said that wal-mart is busy funding for the state to better address that challenge. process, like on a morning like today before school, school shopping as we heard from the police it was at near capacity. 100 employees at the wrrmt. you have the workers there. and the shooting according to the police is -- he started >> reporter: the hate crimes shooting in the parking lot. and he just went in with a appear to be related to immigration. can you talk about that and the rifle, high-powered, they rhetoric around the entire issue for the last few years? believe assault rifle. folks there had no chance. >> so the question about the he knew what he was doing. he picked that target for a manifesto and this eemergencying narrative emerging narrative reason. probably knew that security he can overpower if there was any security. he can overpower that. and just went in. we're seeing around domestic what's going to be interesting terrorism, obviously i want to is whether or not he was say we don't know. targeting certain individuals. we have to allow the that obviously is something we'll find out about or was he investigation to continue. firing randomly at kids? i respect the process very much we know there were kids inside. so. but without regard to this what -- what that must have been particular instance, not like for so many of the speaking about this particular instance, which is still under families. and so it's going to be you know once once we hear more a and investigation, but the manifesto more about the victims and narrative is fueled by hate.

witnesses that were injured here and killed, it's going to be a and it's fueled by racism and tough time. >> ken paxton, the texas bigotry and division. attorney general told us moments and i want to say the national ago somewhere between 15 and 19 people were killed. media is watching, el paso has but that number presumably is going to increase as we get more historically been a very safe information. we are standing by for the news community. we've been safe for decades. conference to come in from el we will continue to be safe. paso. in the next few moments. this is someone who came from let's resume our special outside of our community to do coverage right after this. don't miss your golden opportunity to us harm. experience thrilling performance. a community that has shown now at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. nothing but generosity and kindness to the least among us. get 0.9% apr for 60 months on all 2019 models. those people arriving at experience amazing at your lexus dealer. america's front door. we'll wait to see what happens with this investigation, once we at t-mobile, for $40/line for four lines, it's all included for the whole family. like unlimited with netflix on us. have a determination by law enforcement, then i think you and now with each new line, will see a lot of us coming get one of our latest smartphones included. together to make some very strong statements. but for now we'll let the $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. investigation continue. >> let me just say one thing in closing. to echo what congressman he mmr

said, this person did not come from el paso. this is not what we're about. we're a special community and this is not an el pasoan, i want to assure you. you may want to know if there will be more updates on this. i'm going to let chief allen close with that. >> we'll do another press conference if we find out anything different that we can expound upon later. i want to thank you all for coming. >> thank you. >> all right. so there we get the official word from authorities in the state of texas. 20 people were killed, at least 20 people were killed. 26 people were wounded. several of them in life-threatening situations right now. the 21-year-old white male suspect did in fact, according to authorities that we just heard from, have some sort of manifesto with the words with a

potential connection to a hate crime, a nexus to a hate crime. that's what we heard from authorities. shimon, this is all very it's been a long time significant information that since andrew dusted off his dancing shoes. we're beginning to it. luckily denture breath but the numbers, first of all, will be the least of his worries. are so horrendous. because he uses polident 4 in 1 cleaning system >> that's going to really, to kill 99.99% ultimately what this is about, of odor causing bacteria. these people who went into this, polident. clean. fresh. and confident. shopping, back to school with their kids, it was filled to capacity, this walmart. we have yet to learn anything about the victim. so that will be the story in the coming hours, in the coming days. very significant here already, from the police, saying that they are investigating this as a possible hate crime. there is just no other way to explain this nexus to a hate crime, is how the police chief described it. they talked about a manifesto. we've been talking about -- >> something posted online. >> posted online. obviously it's out there, people have reviewed it. that's playing a significant part in this investigation.

also interviews, interviews with the suspect. that seems to be playing a significant part in this investigation. the fbi helping, they're sending agents to other parts of the state, perhaps to other parts of the country. they're assisting. again, significant in that the suspect, he drove some ten hours to this area and decided that this is where he was going to do the shooting. the police also describing that he surrendered, he surrendered following the breaking news without a fight. out of el paso, texas, where the they were able to stop him and take him into custody. attorney general of texas just there's a lot here we still told us that at least 15, maybe don't know. the most significant thing, 20 people are now dead as a because i think it really result of this mass shooting. changes the story in so many maybe 30 people have been ways. there's going to be so many injured. some of them in life-threatening conversations, is when the police come out and say there is a nexus to a hate crime, this is situations at local hospitals right now. joining us on the phone is tagta being investigated as a possible hate crime, that is going to be very significant. estrada she was at the front fortunate wal-mart when the >> some of those shots were of shooting began. children. tabitha how are you doing. one individual was 82 years old

>> i'm doing pretty okay. thank you. >> tell us what you saw, what who was shot, is in one of the hospitals. >> the suspect here is facing you heard and what went down. the death penalty. they're treating this as a capital crime. the police chief there said >> i personally didn't really that. as we know, texas has the death see that much. i saw everyone running and penalty. he is potentially facing the screaming and like everyone death penalty. saying to get out of the which, >> we heard from the police to get down, find cover. chief, capital murder charges are on the line right now. congressman will hurd of texas a lot of people went inside is joining us, he's a different stores in the mall a republican, former undercover lot of us had to like take officer for the cia as well. people into our back room. so congressman, what's your but it was really confusing at reaction to this horrific first because we didn't know shooting? >> well, first and foremost, 20 what was going on then. people killed, that's just -- your heart goes out, your heart because there wasn't a lot of sinks. word at that point. things had just happened so you've also got to remember there are family members that are dealing not only with everyone was running and screaming. >> what did you do personally? knowing that their loved ones where did you go? were just murdered, that there >> so i was at work. are some that the people that are currently in the hospital in so i had to pull people into the critical condition, these store. and i had a couple of customers families are praying and in my store. worrying about whether their i had to close and lock the family members will make it door. i had to pull them into the through the night. it's just terrible, and in this back. we had to sit there and wait and day and age you wonder why see what happens.

>> did you -- did you follow somebody's heart is filled with what was going on? this much hate and rage to do could you -- could you hear local authorities give something like this. and, you know, like the folks instructions anything along those lines. >> we were in the back room for were saying in the press a good 15, 20 minutes before we conference, the city of he will heard any of the local authorities walk past. so we were in the back for a little while with no signal, not el paso is a warm, safe, beautiful city. the communities are grieving. really knowing what was g going also know that local law on just knowing there was people outside telling us to hide and enforceme all the stores around us closed. enforcement, civil society, and state government, are all finally we got signal and heard working closely together to put together the pieces to try to what was going on and got even more scared. understand why something like this happened. and then that's when we heard >> at least 20 killed, 26 wou like the oh police officers walking past the back room telling for people to like -- if wounded. those numbers would go up when someone was in the hallway to come out with hands out. we get more information. we're told a 21-year-old white and at that point like we got all scared because we thought male from allen, texas, is under maybe the shooter was in the back of like -- in the hallway of the mall. we all backed up into a corner. arrest right now. that's about a 600-mile drive hopefully so that if he did walk from allen, texas to el paso,

past our store and tried to get texas. and there is a manifesto with a in he wouldn't see us. >> how long were you actually nexus to a hate crime. hiding in the back of your tell us your reaction to that. >> sure. store? and before i hit that, wolf, if >> maybe around 30, 45 minutes anybody of your viewers live in before they evacuated us. texas or new mexico, donate >> you must have been so blood. this will be needed over the frightened. >> yeah, and i think it was even next couple of days and weeks. you can go to the red cross and worse because i didn't want to freak out my customers. figure out how to do that. so i was trying to, you know, that's critical. but also this is a lesson for reassure them they were going to all of country. be okay too. because i knew i had family i if you see something someone' y. could turn to. but my -- my customers were from over the border. they had it harder because they were going to have to find a way and if -- again, this is still to get their family to get an investigation. signal to it figure out what was if this was a crime that was going on. i had my -- like my mom on the indeed fueled by hatred of some phone. she knew i was going to be okay. sort of, then this is obviously but they didn't know they were going to be okay. an act of domestic terrorism. >> did your mom call you right away or did you call your mom. >> i called my mom first to let that is if. and we don't want to get in the way of federal law enforcement her know what was happening. after that she called me and and local law enforcement doing even drove down to the -- that

this. but if this does play out, it area as close as she could get should be treated that way. this is a broader problem. that way she could kind of try and get me when she got us out. i've been talking with federal law enforcement all day about this problem. and they've said, they're >> so your customers who were overwhelmed by the number of hiding with you obviously were frightened. they were from mexico. tips and information they've been getting from citizens about how are they doing? did they manage to leave okay? stuff that they see on social did they go back? do you have any idea what happened to them? media. that is going to have to be >> so we got all evacuated something that we have to deal together. and when they evacuated us i with. i hope in the conversation made sure they were okay. and they said that they had around this, what just happened, this horrible event, is focused called their family from juarez on preventing people from having to make sure they were going to guns that shouldn't have guns. meet them at the border to get we are preventing people, them home. whether it's young men from the but we got separated for a little bit. and when i went back to go see suburbs that are, you know, if they were still there they were gone. thinking that this is something so i assume they already left at that point. that they should have to do, we >> yeah, let's hope they're have to make sure that social okay. and obviously i'm sure they were media companies are working with federal law enforcement and shaken. you still must be pretty shaken local law enforcement on this. by all this, tabitha. we've got to improve information >> i am. because it's just -- it's sharing and intelligence sharing surreal for it to happen in our from federal law enforcement to

city, just because i've never local law enforcement. and this could be an example, known el paso to be a hateful again, i'm hypothesizing here, place. we have problems here and there but never something of in scale wonderful, that this is an example of, you know, is this a happened and for our city and lone wolf, is this someone that our you know police officers and all the different you know has never been on the screen or people there to react so swiftly been on the attention of law and calmly, it was really enforcement, right? we don't know that yet. calming to see that like no one i'm stating that if this was, it's another example of how law else was treating like it was enforcement has to deal with such a -- like a big thing. this lone wolf. they were handling it like they the way we do that is improve should. but it was -- it was scary that information sharing between federal and local law because last month they had enforcement. active shooter sweeps at night did this individual case other during the mall. practice sweeps while the mall locations around el paso? was closed. they would let us no he if you did he case other cities to are not out by in time just know that they are doing this. don't be alarmed. determine where he would do this crime? if he cased other locations, did but it was always like that's not going to happen. why are they doing that? they have private security, does but here it is happening. that private security know how and it just -- i think to do suspicious activity everyone's hearts hurt because reports? if they do look for suspicious so many lives were lost and so activity, where are they sharing many people that we know or we

this? have seen. this is an opportunity for all >> so i just want to be precise places, whether it's shopping malls preparation for a potential mass shooting. is that right? >> yes, sir. >> yeah-on probably thought that that was just the drill and it was never going to happen. who would have thought it was going to happen in a month or so. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us, your experience with us. a horrific experience indeed. good luck to you, good luck to all the folks in el paso. thank you so much. >> thank you. be safe. >> yes. be safe there as well. charles ram ramsey is with ours last analyst, former washington, d.c. police chief. chief ramsey, you hear a story like that from this young woman, tabitha estrada, just in her store in the shopping mall. there were visitors from mexico with they were there she was trying to protect them. you can only imagine how scared the folks were. >> yeah, and you could hear the

trauma in her voice. and that's going to be there for a while. i mean this stuff doesn't go away. i got a text from the mayor of parkland, florida while i was doing this show. and it just reminded her of what happened in parkland. i would many imagine other cities that have had the mass shootings take place it brings back the horrific memories as well. the trauma goes way beyond just el paso. i mean it affects a lot of people, no question about that. fortunately she is okay. but that is something that is just absolutely horrific. >> the attorney general, you hear the live interview i did with ken paxton a little while ago. i'm looking at the notes once again. he says that he has been hearing that between 15 and 20 people have been killed. he doesn't have a specific number, between 15 and 20 people. he says that's probably accurate. it's -- that is obviously a very large number, very disturbing. maybe 30 or 40 people were shot

and injured. some of them facing life threatening situations right now. so that number of fatalities presumably is going to increase. and it only takes a few minutes when somebody comes in with a weapon of this nature and that weapon is loaded with a lot of ammunition, and goes ahead and starts killing people randomly from children to an 82-year-old. >> yeah, and again earlier the one person you 1,000 to 3,000 people in the store. at the time. so hearing a number like 15, 20 or even higher is something that you can really believe is true. unfortunately. hopefully no one else passes away. but again it goes to show how deadly these weapons are. and they should not be in civilian hands in my opinion and certainly not in the hands of people like the individual who was involved in this shooting. >> we're waiteding for the police news conference supposed to begin momentarily.

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all right. these are live pictures coming from el paso. there is going to be a major news conference now. we see local authorities coming in. it looks like we are going to get some specific information now. the governor is there. others are there as well. we're going to have live coverage of this momentarily. there you see governor greg abbott and other authorities who will be briefing us on the

nature of this horrific mass shooting in el paso. we were told by the attorney general ken paxton moments ago that somewhere between 15 and 20 people were probably killed. there is not a specific number yet. we might be getting that specific number shortly, maybe 30 or 40 people were injured in this mass shooting. a 21-year-old white male suspect is now being interviewed by local authorities, we're told. we'll get -- presumably more specific information on the suspect as well. and as the social media postings that apparently are painting a specific picture of a possible motive involved in all of this. so this news conference about to begin. i want our viewers to hear all of it. let's listen in. this is the governor of texas, greg abbott. >> thank you all for joining with us here today. my name is greg abbott. i'm the governor of texas.

i want to let you know texas grieves for the people of el paso today. on a day that would have been a normal day for someone to leisurely go shopping turned into one of the most deadly days in the history of texas. lives were taken who should still be with us today. 20 innocent people from el paso have lost their lives, and more than two dozen more are injured. we as a state unite in support of these victims and their family members. we want to do all we can to help them to assist them.

we pray that god can be with those who have been harmed in any way. and bind up their wounds. we want to express incredible gratitude for all the law enforcement and the swift response that they took to minimize the loss of life by directly confronting the shooter, getting him to disarm himself and be able to arrest him. we could not have done this without the eff paso police department. by the texas rangers. by state, federal and local law enforcement working work. making sure that swift justice wo

know and el paso police department and everybody in in entire community to know that the state of full support for this community in their efforts to rebuild. for the country that i know has been paying a lot of attention to this, asking what they can do, i ask that you keep el pasoens in your prayers. we know the power of prayer and the power that you can have by using that prayer. for every mom and dad, for every son and daughter we ask you put your arms around your family members tonight, and give them a hug, and let them know how much you love them. as i was talking with members of the texas house of representatives behind me right now, earlier they showed to me what -- a video taking place in this

community about how people in this community were standing in lines around buildings to give blood to provide water, provide support. as they pointed out, el paso is defined not by the catastrophe that struck this town. the way el paso is really defined is the way in community comes together and supports each other to bridge the divide of this catastrophe that's happened today toward the pathway of where el paso tomorrow. texas, and everybody in in community we must do one thing today, one thing tomorrow. and each and every day after this. we must unite, and especially i want to emphasize the importance of every man and woman, black, brown, white, whatever your race

may be, now is the time for texans to come together, to support each other, to help these families in need and to make needs to take. more than t