the most personal technology is technology with the power to change your life. . this is cnn, breaking news. >> we continue to follow the breaking news. the mass shooting in el paso, texas. i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. here's what we know at this hour. at least 20 people were killed, another 26 were hurt. some with life-threatening injuries, and a 21 year old suspect surrendered at the scene. the alleged gunman now in police custody. the fbi is treating this attack as possible domestic terrorism. the shooting started just about 10:30 local time when the walmart super center was packed

with people, people shopping on saturday. and people inside that store, they either hid, they tried to find cover as the gunman opened fire and you can hear round after round after round. listen. can you imagine that? hiding under a chair, you know, to protect yourself. and bystanders, they stepped in quickly. they tried to assist as many people as possible. we do warn you, the video you'll see here, it is incredibly disturbing. [ speaking in foreign language ]

>> i know! >> hey, we need cpr, we need cpr! >> help, help! >> we need cpr! we need cpr! do you know cpr? >> no! >> we need cpr. turn him over. >> we're just talking about people going through their daily routine. nobody expected a terrible attack like this to happen. many people were still shaking after they described what they saw. >> we were in the freezer section, and he heard the shots. at first we didn't think anything of it, kind of sounded like fireworks, and then they

started coming closer together, the shots were going, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. people were running inside saying there was a shooter. we took off towards the back of the store where the stockroom was. we were pushing people out the way and telling them to go. and when we did we ran out towards the back and the employees were telling us to go into the freight containers in the back where they get the stock out, and we sat there for maybe 20 minutes, and then they told us to come out, and we did, because there were elderly and children, they were getting hot. >> i'm shaking. there weigas a whole bunch of k out there. i tried to pick out as many as i could and bring them out with me. >> i heard a lot of yelling, cops with guns, saying get on your knees. that's when we went back in the room. we were scared to death. >> now, just a bit about the suspected gunman. apparently, from allen, texas, more than 600 miles away. that's about 1,000 kilometers away. authorities say that a document was posted online shortly before the shooting. it appears to be an

anti-immigrant manifesto. the governor of texas had this to say. >> this is disgusting. intolerable. it is not texan. and we are going to aggressively prosecute it both as capital murder but also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be, without having seen all the evidence yet, i don't want to get ahead of the evidence. but we have to be very, very clear. that conduct like this, thoughts like this, actions like this, crimes like this are not who or what texas is and will not be accepted here. >> cnn's ed lavandera has been on the scene in el paso since the shooting and filed this report just a short time ago. >> reporter: here in el paso, investigators will continue to work throughout the night, processing the crime scene at the walmart. this is the back of the building

that you see behind me. we are still seeing investigators coming in and out the entire parking lot and shopping center here, remains locked down. police here in el paso tell us that the victims who died inside that store are still inside, will remain there as those investigators and crime scene forensics experts continue to do their work inside. so that is a gruesome, horrifying scene, and that is all happening as the investigation continues. we understand federal investigators have opened up a hate crime investigation, local authorities here are taking the lead, and everyone from local police up to the governor of texas vowing to prosecute this suspect to the fullest extent of the law, which means here in the state of texas, that this could be a case where we very well see the death penalty inflicted on this suspect. so that is what is continuing. but there is still some very tense and agonizing moments here for families, especially the

family that we met earlier today of 86-year-old angie inglesby who is still missing. two of her children tell us they have desperately and frantically been trying to connect with their mother who they last spoke to as she was in a checkout line inside that walmart moments before the shooting erupted. they are still hoping and have not heard any news about her throughout the day. and then we met another woman named davy romero who was outside of the walmart store, waiting for her nephew to come out when she started hearing the gunshots erupt, and what she saw next is something that she will never forget. >> i was waiting for him to come out. but it was taking too long, and then i heard the first one. so i was like, where, what's, what's going on? but it was so loud! very loud. and then i just saw that everybody dropping. so that's when i just ran in there, like trying to, but then i saw him run this way, so i

chased him. i thought he got shot. >> reporter: and who was -- >> and the baby, my, my nephew, there's a baby that some man carried that got shot, a guy who just gave it to the ambulance. i don't know. confusing. it was awful. >> reporter: so those are the types of images and ex-crucicrug scene, this woman witnessing a man pull a baby in blood out of that walmart store. that is the moments that many survivors and witnesses are experiencing and dealing with at this very moment. there is still the efforts to get information about victims to relatives here in el paso. that work continues as well. but here tonight, and in the overnight hours, crime scene investigators still inside that walmart doing their work. and that will continue throughout the night. ed lavandera, cnn, el paso, texas. let's get some analysis now

with cheryl dorsey, a retired los angeles police sergeant. also the author of the book "plaque a "black and blue." thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> given what we know at this point, 20 people dead, at least 26 others injured and the suspected gunman in custody. what happens at this point as police carry out this investigation? >> well, they're going to be backtracking to see what led up to the suspect's shooting, posting on social media. they're going to be trying to identify victims, locate families and notify them. there's going to be a lot of behind the scenes work going on. what i'm concerned about is why there's been no mention with regards to gun control and gun reform. i mean, there's an elephant in the room, and nobody wants to address, why is someone 19, 21 years old allowed to have a weapon that will hold a banana clip magazine with multiple rounds that can do this kind of

carnage? it makes no sense. >> this appears to be a hate crime. investigators are trying to determine as well whether the suspect, that they have in custody, whether, he posted a manifesto to an online chat board, fan this turns out to be true. it appears the gunman wanted people to know the reasons, the motivation for carrying out such an attack, which would be exactly what police are looking for, i would surmise, in motivation. >> well, he was very deliberate and determined. it's been reported that he drove 600 miles, six or seven hours from allen, texas to el paso, texas. he picked this particular location with some specificity, based on the types of customers that would be in that walmart. you know, there's, there's an atmosphere of anti-hispanic rhetoric and racial animus that's emboldened, encouraging white nationalists to act out. if there's no consequence, if

there's no willingness to abate guns and ammunition that could hurt hundreds of people in a few seconds, how do we stop this? >> you do point out this touches on several things, touches on gun control. touches on immigration as well as, it's definitely, it is a tragedy to say the very least. to your point, we believe the suspect came from outside of el paso to carry out this attack then surrendered to police without a shot. what does that tell you about the suspect's mind set? >> well, you know, i can't speak to his mind set, because i don't know. but, you know, what it tells me is that police officers act very differently when a suspect is a male white than they do when they deal with people who look like me. armed or unarmed, this suspect was taken into custody without incident after he shot 20 people fatally and wounded 26 others and taken into custody without

incident. more often we see officers engaging people of color, unarmed, killing him because they think he has a gun. and we have someone known to have a gun and he's taken into custody without incident. how does that happen? >> there is a lot of talk about that on social media right now. and i that i certainly is a conversation about people that look like us that are having that conversation. thank you, again, for your time. >> thank you. u.s. politicians on both sides of the aisle are condemning this deadly shooting, including the u.s. president. on twitter, he said the attack was not only tragic but an attack of cowardice, the president adding there are no reasons for killing innocent people. but beto o'rourke called out the president and suggested president trump's rhetoric against minorities may have played a role in this attack. here he is. >> yes, we've had a rise in hate

crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who's called mexicans rapists and criminals, though mexican immigrants commit crimes less. attempting to ban all muslims from this country, the day that he signed that executive order, the mosque in victoria, texas was burned to the ground. those chants that we heard in greenville, north carolina, "send her back", talking about our fellow american citizens, duly elected to represent their constituents in the congress, who happen to be women of color. he is a racist. and he stokes racism in this country, and it does not just offend our sensibilities. it fundamentally changes the character of this country, and it leads to violence. and, again, there are still details that we are waiting on, but i'm just following the lead that i've heard from the el paso

police department, where they say there are strong indications that this shooter wrote that manifesto and that this was inspired by his hatred of people here in this community. >> some politicians are now demanding changes to america's gun laws. on twitter, pete buttigieg said these attacks are a form of white nationalist terrorism being abetted by weak gun laws. republican senator lindsey graham called for new legislation to quote, deal with those who present a danger to themselves and others. he also said the massacre was quote, sick and senseless. a sentiment shared by the former vice president joe biden as well. >> i can say without fear of contradiction, enough is enough is enough. and it's been enough for the past five years. this is a sickness. this is, this is well beyond

anything that we should be tolerating. >> and we're also hearing from some of the people who were at the scene there in el paso. one woman who described the chaos that she saw as all of this unfolded right in front of her. >> there were a lot of people that couldn't get out of there. >> did you see people on the ground? >> yes. and then there was this man who was, like, with all blood on him. he told us that he actually carried a child with him and that got shot. and he was all covered with blood. so, but yeah, i, i did see a child got shot, and i saw bodies outside. >> reporter: do you know how many bodies that you saw? >> i only saw two. >> reporter: what were people saying that were there inside? >> people were just shocked. they were, they were frozen.

they were just running away from the scene. people were saying what's going on? what's going on? other people were saying my family member is there. please call them or people sending messages to everybody on facebook, on instagram, you know, saying be careful, do not go outside. we were all helping each other. i also want to thank a lady who actually picked us up, me and my mother, and also some walmart employees got into their cars and also i want to thank them, because they also helped us to get away from there in their car. >> reporter: did the killer say anything? did the shooter say anything at all? was he making any type of movement? anything out of the ordinary? did he look like a regular person walking in the store? >> yeah, he looked just a regular person, but as, as an

army wife, i do take care of myself and my surroundings, where everything is, just in case, you know, you never know what could happen, and, and i, he didn't say anything. he just start, he walked in and starts shooting at everybody. a and, and we just, we hide, we were hiding there for maybe like ten minutes, until everything was calm, and we, i, i started pushing people out of walmart. and just telling them to get out. get out. >> reporter: did you see what kind of weapon he was carrying? what he was using? >> yes, we did see it was maybe like an ak, but i didn't see what type of ak. the only thing i saw was it looked like an ak. >> reporter: like a rifle? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: like a banana clip? >> yes, yes. that's, that's the only thing that i saw, and i saw him that he had khaki pants with a black shirt. that's all, that's all that i

saw. >> reporter: did you see him walk in by any chance? i'm sure you weren't thinking about their asis has a guy who't to do all these things. >> no, i didn't see him walking in. the first thing i heard was the gunshots. and then when i turned around, and to see what was going on, that's when i saw him, and that's when i ran back with my mom, and i told her, let's go, let's go, let's go. and i started to help the senior citizen, help her get out and just getting people out of there. just letting them know, we need to exit out. >> you hear stories like this, and it's just chilling to hear. there's an outpouring of support, as well, for people in el paso. hundreds of people turned out, lining up to save lives, giving blood. whoops. sorry.

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the tears and prayers there to help heal a city. keeping in mind, 20 lives were lost saturday. more than two dozen others injured. people came together at an el paso church to honor those affected by the shootings and to help their loved ones to try to heal. the vigil concluded with a song for the wounded community.

♪ ♪ alleluia ♪ alleluia ♪ alleluia >> that's the scene in el paso. and now to the state capital, austin, texas. this the scene of a candlelight vigil for the victims there. local politicians are also remembering the victims, and they were quick to point out, this attack is not representative of el paso. listen. >> there were 20 families that woke up whole this morning. with their loved ones. and when the sun sets tonight here in el paso, they'll go to bed without them. those families are broken. but it's, it is with our strength and resolve that we can help piece them back together, and i want people to know that this horrific act does not

define our community. what defines our community is the lines around the blood bank, of people ready to donate. people wanting to offer counseling services to families, volunteering left and right. that's who el paso is. >> you just heard a state representative moody mention the lines around that building. there were long lines. that happened soon after the call went out for donations. dozens of people lined up. some of the people brought food, others brought drink to share with the people in line who were waiting. at least one blood donation center was at maximum capacity. so people were standing in line, just to make appointments for sunday and monday. one organization says it hasn't seen this kind of response since the 9/11 attacks. we heard from the senior director, but donor recruitment for one blood bank in el paso, and he spoke with my colleague,

alex marquardt, about the turnout on saturday. >> this tragedy is something that our community just, just didn't know, and it just, all the emotions from people who came in today, to donate blood, i mean, it's apparent that everybody is in shock. and, you know, we just don't know how, we're not used to things like this out here. >> and officials and residents talking about how tight-knit this community was and how many people have been touched by, affected by, i should say, by this attack. do you personally know anyone who was involved? >> well, you know, the ironic thing is that today we had a big effort planned at cielo vista mall. we had one of our larger blood drives scheduled. so we were actually out there at cielo vista mall collecting blood. and i got a call from one of my

l employees and asked if i had seen the news. one of our employees did see the shooter run through the mall. and it was just something that everybody was shaken up about. >> and one of the best pieces of news that we've seen today, and we just showed some of the pictures a moment ago are these stories of two-hour-long lines of residents and people turning out to donate their blood. someone from your company actually said they hadn't seen anything like this since 9/11. how have you found the response? >> oh, absolutely. it was overwhelming. you know, i've been with this organization for more than 20 years, and i was here on 9/11. and it was the same thing today, you know, people showing up, wanting to do something, to make sense out of this tragedy, wanting to help. and so today, you know, we did have long lines of people, and, you know, the line, you know, just wound around the building. and, you know, people didn't

mind waiting for two, three hours. you know, today we, we stopped taking donors at 5:00 p.m., and we were rescheduling people to come back tomorrow, to come back on monday. because the response was just overwhelming. but nonetheless, we didn't close our operation till about 30 minutes ago, and so we, we were still processing those donors that had been waiting all this time. >> so just as we're telling you about what happened in el paso, texas. i roo he gegret to tell you the another possible shooting you must know about in the state of ohio. this shooting in dayton, ohio. police say they are tracking what they call an active shooting incident in a district of dayton called oregon. that should not be confused with the u.s. state of oregon, the same name of course. stay with cnn as we continue to track down information and we will confirm the information and

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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage of the mass shooting in texas. i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. and recapping our top story this hour. here's what whe know. the fbi has opened a domestic terror investigation, this after

a shooting at a shopping center that left 20 people dead, 26 others injured in texas. the 21 year old suspect surrendered at the scene and is in custody. he could face charges of capital murder and a hate crime. one person described exactly what he saw as the shooter opened fire. >> to me, he's going for blood. he's going for death. that's his favorite thing right now. i wants the blood lust. after you start hearing people running you hear the fire, pop, pop, pop, trigger finger, he's going, going, going, that's what we heard. people yelled run, shooter. after we got to the back we didn't think much of it. my radrenaline's pumping, i'm going, i'm going, i'm going. >> we get insight from jeff

campbell, and he spoke earlier with my colleague, alex marquardt, about what happened. listen. >> law enforcement official familiar with the ongoing situation says the bureau has opened a domestic terror investigation that will run concurrentant conc concurrently with the state investigation. they are looking into it to include ideology, if there's any hate crime angle they're working that case. looking into this manifesto, trying to get into the mind-set of the shooter. was this someone who came here causing mass loss of life based on hate. and we were covering last week a mass shooting. the fbi providing resources, profilers from the behavioral analysis unit at quantico that helped them get into the mind set of this person. we can bet there will be a whole source of resources the federal

government will be bringing to bear. there are satellite offices around texas sending assets here and officers are standing by in washington to deploy to this location should they go a request from state officials leading the investigation. >> let's get more now from soci socialologist. >> we've heard from beto o'rourke, what are your thoughts about how rhetoric might play into hate and how it might play into extremism? >> well, this is an issue that's been rising steadily. i mean, i think it really starts in 2011 with the mass shooting that happens in oslo, norway, this nationalist reaction to globalization. 77 people were killed in that, and that guy had become kind of a role model for these shooters that 2005' sewe've seen in the

states. so the rhetoric happening in this country, the xenophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment has motivated a lot of these folks. i have to say this is frustrating to those of us studying this issue for years. we've been banging the drum year after year saying that there are these nationalists out there that want to start a civil war, they want to start a race war, a second american revolution, and they're willing to take the body count that gets them in the front of the news cycle, and we've been sort of hammering on this issue for so long, and it's just so frustrating that we're yet here again with people who idolize people like the shooter in norway and the oklahoma city bomber, to have this body count, to kind of make their point and motivate their movement, and it's just really sad that we're still at this, and there's no national will from the top to confront this issue of domestic right wing extremism. so i don't know when this will end. >> all right, getting into if it's even possible, the mind

set, the twisted mind-set of a person who would carry out an attack like this. the alleged gunman in this case gave up without a shot fired. given your understanding of who would do something like this, why they would do something like this, what do you think could be behind that? >> well, these shootings are different than things like school shootings. those are often suicidal orgies of violence where they think they're going to go out. these are all males by the way, where they're going to go out on their feet rather than on their knees. they want to be spokespersons for their movement. so as long as they can breathe and express themselves and write manifestos and whether it's in prison or in the courtroom, that they will have a voice to further their movement. they want to stay alive. they're different than the other types of mass shooters who are essentially committing acts of mass suicide while they're taking out people with them. and so these are really a different type of animal.

>> let's also talk about these online chat wards. the gunman allegedly posted his reasoning on this board, and it is a place rife with racist and anti-semitic conspiracy theories. is there anything more that can be done to monitor and watch sites like this? >> it's tough. i spent a lot of time on hn where this guy posted his writings, and it is protected. it's free speech. there is a little bit of a tipping point where some serious red flags come up. so you can post kind of anything you want. but when you talk about committing acts of violence, there's an opportunity for law enforcement to get involved. but it is, under our first amendment kind of a gray area of what is protected free speech and what is a credible threat. and certainly, law enforcement has their hands full trying to figure out what is what, because there is so much of this on the darkweb and the websites where these people post to figure out what is just a young person

ranting about how much they hate what's going on in the world and what intervention. >> we're hearing from major platforms, facebook, twitter, they're monitoring, looking to take down any continuation, any talk about this possible manifesto, but, you know, big platforms like that, how big is the burden on them to stay ahead of this sort of thing? >> yeah, it's kind of like a game of whack a mole to try to figure out what's a real threat and what's not. so there is, there's a lot of work, there's a lot of bodies that need to be put in front of screens to monitor these postings, and it's just sort of like trying to, you know, stop a dam with a tiny little rag. i mean, there is just this incredible wash of this stuff floating on the internet. and most of it just kind of goes off and it's people venting and participating in their online subculture, but there's enough of it that it's a real threat that means we really have to pay attention to these things that are being posted, and there's a

real conversation about what is protected first amendment expression and what is real criminal intent. and it's a hard thing to wade through, and so there's a lot of work to be done there from both the private sector and organizations like facebook but also law enforcement and using this open source data to try to find who might be the next actor in one of these scenarios, and i don't envy those folks, because it's kind of an impossible task. >> we appreciate your time today and perspective. we'll stay in touch with you as we follow this terrible story. thank you. authorities in el paso have set up reunification centers, trying to help families find their loved ones. in the middle of the chaos, we heard from one woman, tearful, desperate, searching for her mom. listen. >> i god tirt tired of waiting waiting and waiting and waiting, and i just want to know where my

mom is. >> tell me what you've done to find her so far. >> we went to mcarthur school. my niece took me, the bus was empty, all the people were gone. and we said, well, i asked the cops, at mcarthur. i want to know where my mom is. where are the people that are in walmart? where did you put them all? where have they all gone? i saw all the buses. my mom, none, no buses came, and i didn't find her. i want to just find my mom. somebody needs to tell me where she shchis. i want to know if she's dead or alive or if she's still in walmart. i need to find her. and this is the only way we're going to do it. >> their is is a hell of a day. a lot of breaking news to tell you about. what happened in texas and now to tell you about a possible situation in ohio, another shooting. police confirm they are investigating an active shooter

incident there. this happened in a district of dayton called oregon. that shouldn't be confused with the u.s. state of oregon. by the same name. police are telling people in that area to avoid that area. cnn affiliate wkef is on the scene and reports a large police presence there. of course we are looking to confirm as much information as possible before putting it forward, but, again, police investigating an active shooter incident in the state of ohio. stand by. we'll have more for you as newsroom continues. e they use stamps.com all the services of the post office only cheaper get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again.

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all right, recapping the top story, the mass shooting at a shopping center in el paso, texas. it is among the worst shootings in modern u.s. history. here's what we know so far. vigils and prayer services are being held for the victims there, and, as we see this story in the days to come, that will be the story, about the lives lost, the families that are waking up in a few hours, missing their loved ones. at least 20 people are confirmed dead. more than two dozen others are hurt. the suspect, 21 year old, a 21 year old white male, surrendered and is in police custody. police say it may have been a hate crime, and the fbi has opened a domestic terrorism investigation. authorities say anti-immigrant

manifesto was posted online minutes before the shooting started. keeping in mind, many people are still unaccounted for after this shooting. earlier, my colleague, alex marquardt, spoke with the mayor of el paso. dee margo. listen. >> the governor and i just visited with the families waiting on information over at one of the schools here in el paso. it's tough. it's really, really tough. >> it's extremely tough and extremely heartbreaking. what about the investigation? what are federal authorities telling you? what is the government telling you about the suspect? we understand he's a 21 year old man who drove all the way from allen, texas. what do we know about the investigation into him and his motive? >> well, there isn't much to update since we had the press conference. we talked about this gentleman, i should say gentleman, this murderer. who came from outside of el paso, and, as i've said before,

no one in el paso would have done something like this. this is not what we're about as a community. the investigations are still going through and identifying the bodies, and they're going through their normal forensic work, and then the families will be notified. but nothing new is happening yet, we're here at the scene as it stands now. >> was the shooter, do you know, was he known at all to authorities? >> i don't know that. i do not know that. he came from out of, i think allen, texas is where i think they said he came from. but my point is that just, just a real tragedy. >> can you describe the scene, before the shooting. what would have been happening at a walmart in el paso, texas on a saturday morning in early august? >> a lot of shoppers. everybody getting ready for back to school. normal routines.

just a normal saturday for people and yet this tragedy struck. >> you and others have talked about how tight-knit this community is. what has been the reaction since this horrific massacre happened now just over nine hours ago? >> well, it's been reported, we've had significant blood donors. this is a very generous community. it is a community that goes back 350 years. and people just don't understand. we have, we are a close-knit, we are a large and close-knit. we're the largest community of our type on the u.s./mexico border. there's nothing in north america that can equate to what we have here with el paso. so this is just totally unexpected, and, as i say, probably never would have %-p those long lines of donors, of blood donors coming out to donate blood. there have been calls to, for people to sign up online.

what can people do to help the community right now? >> well, we've set up the health foundation has set up a website for donations, for victims and their families. and the other, what we're telling other people is just continue to donate blood. that's what we need right now. >> in the face of tragic stories like this, there are always those inspiring, heartwarming stories. in fact, an off duty u.s. soldier is being called a hero after the attack. how his actions may have actually saved lives there. stand by for that.

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we're following the breaking story out of the state of ohio. police there confirm they are investigating a quote, active shooter incident. this, of course, is separate from the massacre in texas that we're also following. this incident happened in a district of dayton, ohio called oregon, keeping in mind that is not to be confused with the state of oregon. police are telling people to avoid that area, and they say it is a large scene and investigation. cnn affiliate wkef is also there, and that affiliate reports a large police presence.

we will, of course, continue to bring you updates as we learn more about what's happening there as we confirm information. the unfolding story in ohio taking place a day after a gunman opened fire at an el paso, texas walmart. that gunman killing 20 people and injuring 26 others. and video from the scene, it shows pure chaos. people running out of that shopping center, one man hiding under a table as gunshots rang out. and you hear it here. and police arrived at the scene, we understand, in about six minutes' time. and they arrested the suspect without a shot fired. they tell cnn the 21 year old surrendered to police. the fbi has opened a domestic terrorism investigation. an el paso police sergeant spoke

about the suspect's capture. here it is. >> this is something that's never occurred in my 22 years of being a police officer in el paso. so, as far as the remarkableness of him being caught alive, you know, it's hard for me to speculate why this happened. i am, i am glad to say that we, we did capture him. and that he will be able to face justice if this all comes to a conclusion being certain that this is the only person responsible. but i couldn't comment on how it is, whether it is or is not that we caught him. >> you can imagine when this happened it triggered panic at a mall. an off-duty soldier was shopping when he heard it happen, and he heard gunshots and went into action. >> i was buying a jersey, and a little kid ran in there and was telling us, it's an active shooter in walmart, and we didn't pay any attention, because one, that's a little

kid, and two, we're at the mall. we didn't pay it no mind. i walked to footlocker and heard two gunshots and a whole bunch of people started running around, screaming. so they shut the cage in footlocker. i'm in the military, when i hear gunshots, you're trained to think fast, take cover, do anything you can. so a couple guys, they just ran out of footlocker, and i'm thinking, i'm the only one with a wieapon, you know, that's legally carrying, i can go with them and guard them or whatever. but i see a whole bunch of kids running around without their parents. so i think pick up as many kids as i can possible. there was another guy doing it, as well, i don't know where he went to, but there was another hispanic guy with me and he did it as well. maybe a total of 13 kids running around, c i could only get thre. there were so many kids running around, i was just thinking

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and go see, fast & furious presents, hobbs & shaw. now playing. this is cnn, breaking news. >> we continue following the breaking news, the mass shooting that played out in el paso, texas. i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. welcome to viewers here in the united states and around the world. here's what wh here's what we know at this point. at least 20 people killed, 26 people hurt. some with life-threatening injuries. the alleged gunman now in police custody. and the fbi is treating this as a possible domestic terrorism case. the walmart super center, about 10:30 a.