america right now from gun violence? victims rise up when they want >> that predated trump. to. a lot of people today arguing he this is when they want to be has not made it better. talking about doing something. i'll be back at noon with the >> right. very latest on this horrible story. cnn has much more on these mass oliver, the role of the internet shootings. next, we're live at noon with in radicalizing these often kamala harris and bernie white men, we've seen this time sanders. stay with us. after time after time, it's often times happening on the same websites. >> it always seems to come back to one of these fringe conspiracy message boards. >> this is cnn breaking news. at what point do we look at this and say enough is enough? if you had isis terrorists >> at least 20 dead in el paso, gathering on a message board -- we all knew what message board texas, nine are dead in dayton, it was, and they were talking ohio, along with the gunman openly about praising acts of there. he attacked a neighborhood terror, i think there would be a large ground swell of support crowded with bars and clubs for taking some action or overnight in the oregon district monitoring some of these folks. of dayton. we are still learning more about >> are they being monitored? both sites, both shooters and about the victims. don't you think federal law the attack in el paso, we know, enforcement is keeping an eye on these boards? is the deadliest mass shooting >> i would hope so. there have been reductions in in america since november 2017. the ability to monitor right the dallas morning news posting

wing extremism at the federal this gut wrenching front page level. there is some monitoring but i this morning, the headline think there should be more quoting an eyewitness saying possibly. and i think we should treat this, again, as terrorism and if there were so many bodies. sadly, that headline would now apply in dayton as well. here is the el paso times, there are isis terrorists, posting on a message board, a lot of calls for that to stop hometown paper on the border and questions from the providers there, 20 killed in rampage, and the people who are hosting mentioning the manifesto, which these websites about why they are not taking action. we will get into, in el paso, >> to the panel, thank you very much. more breaking news now from el the police have a suspect in custody. he is talking to investigators. paso. let's go back to dayton. unfortunately, i'll go back and terrorism investigation into the shooting. the media conversation this hour forth between these two crime will be, in part, about when and scenes. police chief saying in dayton a how and why to describe this search warrant at a home in terrorism. in this case, white terrorism. connection with the overnight shooting in dayton, ohio, now we know many americans are at church this morning, in belbrook, ohio, a suburb there. places of worship this morning. it's unclear what's being politicians coming forward, collected from this home. offering thoughts and prayers, a search warrant has been repeating the same messages they executed on a home near dayton. repeated for years, for decades. shannon watts, founder of one politician. moms demand action, one of the not trying to pick on any leading gun control groups in this country. those are her activists. individual. senate leader mitch mcconnell. those are her organizers

speebing on capitol hill last night. us. one of the top assignments for journalists in the days ahead is and now with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. to follow up with political leaders, republicans and $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. democrats, and find out what they're going to do. we've heard them talk. what are they going to do. na blend of quality probiotics. that also includes the president and fermented whole food botanicals, of the united states who right now has been tweeting but not expertly curated to naturally support your gut health every day. said anything on camera. will there be an address to the go with align whole food blend. nation? we'll cover all those angles in from the pros in digestive health. the minutes to come here. let's start with shimon prokupecz and what we know and don't know and the suspects and victims. dayton, ohio, the shooting overnight. apparently authorities have identified the suspect, who has now been killed. we don't know what his name is. is that right? >> exactly right, brian. they have identified him. they know where he lives. they've been to his home. authorities there, they know who he is. they have not he is. they're still working through

that. they've not said what, perhaps, the motive was behind this. we know he came there armed with an ar-style assault rifle. he had a lot of ammunition with i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. him. if it wasn't for the police, the in only 8 weeks with mavyret, quick response from the police i was cured and left those doubts behind. in just a minute, this could have been far worse. the motive here, while we know i faced reminders of my hep c every day. likely what the motive was in but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, the el paso shooting, here there i was cured. even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c. are a lot of questions. for authorities, they have to consider whether or not el paso but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. may have triggered this. mavyret is the only 8-week cure did that play any role of what for all common types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test happened in dayton? that's something that if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up authorities are looking at. >> we'll go live to dayton in a and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. minute. el paso and the apparent motive. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, this so-called manifesto, hiv-1, or other medical conditions, four-page racist screed issued and all medicines you take including herbal supplements. in el paso, have authorities don't take mavyret with atazanavir or rifampin, confirmed yet that it came from

or if you've had certain liver problems. the gunman? >> i think they're pretty sure common side effects include headache and tiredness. that it is. they're not saying that. obviously, they're still working with hep c behind me, i feel free... through a lot of that information. ...fearless... they have legally, right, for ...and there's no looking back, because i am cured. evidence reasons they have to do certain things to link it 100% talk to your doctor about mavyret. to him so that they could use it as evidence. they've not said they've done that yet. did you know even the cleanest looking cars can smell musty? ♪ when you hear what the governor has to say there about treating that's because odors trapped in your car's soft surfaces this as a hate crime, when you get released, and are then circulated by your ac system. heard police saying yesterday that they have this manifesto, to stop the cycle of odors that there's a nexxus to a hate try febreze car vent clips. febreze stops the circulation of musty air crime certainly they are looking at this manifesto in a way that by trapping and eliminating lingering odor molecules they believe it does belong to for up to 30 days of fresh, clean air. him. that's a significant piece of plus, they come in a range of scents including extra light. evidence. stop the cycle of odors in your car with febreze car vent clips. also they've been interviewing brand power. helping you buy better. this suspect. they have a lot of information from him, in his own word. >> his own words? you eat right... mostly. >> yeah. what is he telling you make time... when you can. investigators? but sometimes life gets in the way, is he telling them why he did and that stubborn fat just won't go away. this? it's quite possible. he certainly didn't expect to coolsculpting takes you further. live. that's an interesting point in a non-surgical treatment that targets, freezes,

all of this. why did he choose to stop and and eliminates treated fat cells, for good. surrender to police, why doesn't he engage police in a gun battle discuss coolsculpting with your doctor. or shoot himself? some common side-effects include temporary numbness, he could be offering all of discomfort, and swelling. those explanations to investigators. don't imagine results, see them. certainly that will be interesting once we learn that. coolsculpting, >> shimon, thank you. take yourself further. please stick around. live to el paso and dayton to the editors in both cities. bob moore is the president and ceo of digital news outlet el paso matters and used to run the el paso times. he is at the walmart and editor of the daily dayton news, jim bennington. what are the questions you all as terror unfolded in el are trying to get answered? >> as you indicated it's just paso yesterday, hundreds of gun coming to light who the shooter is, that the police identified safety volunteers, moms demand him, at least, and we're digging into who he is and what -- why action, they were gathered in d.c. for this conference called did he do what he did? gun sense university. >> that's what needs to be you can see them filling the determined. room there, many mobilizing, this happened at 1:00 in the morning in dayton. when did you find out, jim? taking to the streets for a

so painful for so many americans rally. they met up, went to the white to wake up and find out that house. they held a moment of silence at we're covering two of these on the white house. the same weekend. >> i got the call in the middle you can see all of them holding their phones and candles and of the night. other devices up in the air as we're also whio tv. we pan over to the white house. tv crews are out on the streets these are all videos from the every night and they're not activists in the crowd. supposed to be doing this. from the white house, they headed to capitol hill. i want to show you those videos this was horrific. we were there immediately. as well, going to the capitol and our newsroom has been hill area, having this rally crammed ever since. near the steps. >> ever since. to bob moore in el paso, bob, what they're chanting there is about 13 hours before what "not one more." happened in dayton, we saw it in el paso. but after that chant, after that where were you? what have you been doing since rally, these activists went home for the night and they woke up then? it's been 24 hours since the to the news from dayton. shooting. >> i was at home. one more mass shooting in america. shannon watts joins me now from looking forward to a saturday off when i started to get twitter notices from the police washington. shannon, this conference, sadly department, urging people to well timed. what did you all talk about shelter in place. yesterday in the wake of the el a short time later i got a call paso attack, before the dayton from the washington post asking if i could help them with attack? >> we get together once a year i coverage. was with 2,000 gun sensitivists, so i immediately raced out to

the scene yesterday, to where students and mothers who want to we're standing now and have put an end to this gun violence pretty much nonstop since then been trying to piece together crisis, not just mass and school what happened here. shootings, but daily gun >> have you had to do this before, bob? violence, homicides and suicides i know there are now so many journalists that have had to in rural communities. we have to stop all of it. respond to multiple mass shootings in their careers here we are, crisis after because this happened so often. crisis. i get asked all the time if i'm numb or if i think americans are numb. those videos show you we're not. >> no. this is my first. there's not a parent in this i hope it's my last. country who isn't terrified that the uniqueness of this, if it their child will be next. >> some of your volunteers from pans out the way it's looking texas had to step away, right? right now we're talking about the deadliest act of terrorism what were they doing when they heard about el paso? since the oklahoma city bombing. >> they were devastated that this happened. some of them live there. this is stunning and a bit they're calling their senators and demanding they come back from recess and vote on gun overwhelming to be honest with safety legislation like a you. >> do you have any advice for jim, given that he's doing this background check on every gun sale, a a day longer than he has? >> god speed. keep everybody together. word "checks" to 64443 and we'll keep everybody strong. local journalists really know

the importance of connecting with our community and promoting connect you to your senator. accuracy above all else. >> what do you think the press gets wrong when we're covering >> i think, jim, partly what's mass shooting after mass so heartbreaking this weekend is shooting? is it st that we don't focus that we're seeing two wonderful enough on the pligs politicians? >> let's not speculate about the all-american cityies connected n causes of gun violence. it's easy access to guns. it's not video games. the worst possible way. it's not mental illness. what's it feel like there in dayton? it's specifically an american >> it's very hard. crisis because there's easy we got walloped by 15 tornadoes access to guns and also i think sometimes media runs out of two months ago and that's been the focus of the whole community angle and now this. angles and ways to cover this. dayton, briefly, is a proud we don't need new solutions to gun violence. we need to enact the solutions that are there, that we know city. it calls itself the city of work. and we need our lawmakers to do neighbors. that is its name. that. >> you, yourself, say you don't it's a big small town that a lot get numb to this, even though of people go to where this some journalists feel like they happened last night and it really touches everybody. do, citizens watching this feel we're trying to get our arms like they get numb to the daily, around, you know, who got hurt, weekly, monthly death toll. how are the victims and their you avoid getting numb by families getting word and how do focusing on the energy of your we come back from this. supporters. >> yeah. we're not numb. we're winning in state houses >> jim, bob, thank you both. and board rooms. best of luck in the hours and we've passed so many stronger gun laws at the state level,

days to come. one of the biggest stories, changed corporate policy. obviously, one of the most that's how social issues work in important pieces of this, the this country. you build momentum on the ground victims. and we still know very little and it points congress and the about the people who have died president in the right in both of these massacres. direction. they better be listening this. that will be a top priority in 2020 is coming. the hours ahead. we'll also take a quick break they should expect us. >> i'm getting emails during the and come back with our panel, show. one from rick, brian, nothing is talking about terrorism. going to be done from this. domestic terrorism. when and how to apply that term. sandy hook taught me that. more in just a moment. after sandy hook, i concluded family. cluded foe nothing would ever be done. what do you say to those folks? like unlimited with netflix on us. and now with each new line, >> hopelessness and cynicism is get one of our latest smartphones included. dangerous. it tells americans that they shouldn't act. $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. this isn't a polarizing issue. it gets people to the polls. 90% of americans support stronger gun laws. mid-term elections, we outspent and out-maneuvered the nra, seven legislatures have been flipped and we're about to do same thing in 2020. this issue doesn't change unless every american gets off the sidelines and uses their voices and their vote. >> you've been outspoken on twitter about one particular politician, president trump and the rhetoric that he has been expressing for years.

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we are back now on cnn with these two mass shootings in ohio and texas. headline says deadly violence heightens concerns about domestic terrorism and white supremacists, but here is the thing. that headline was on friday. that was before the attack in el paso, before the attack in dayton. that headline was about gilroy. the fbi has been acknowledging the rise in violence in this country. fbi officials say they've seen a significant rise in white supremacist, white nationalist terrorism cases. we do know about the so-called manifesto published online by somebody, appears to be the shooter, a few minutes before the attack. let's talk about all of that and more now with the author of the book's "columbine and parkland."

dedicated to the american gun violence crisis and oliver darcy. let's talk about the so-called manifesto. it's an essay, racist screed. i don't think it should be glamorized calling it a manifesto. whatever we call it, it was published on this nasty message board about 20 minutes before this attack happened in el paso. it is not 100% confirmed that it was posted by all the evidence indicates he post this had document, attacking hispanics, fearing the replacement of white people. it's not the first time we've seen an online screed like this. >> no. and if this were a member of my family who had done an act of we are back now here on a family like this, if this were a special edition of "reliable muslim, we would call it for what it is, terrorism. sources," covering these twin mass shootings in america, one that is what it is. particularly in this el paso in el paso, texas, one in case, we know that authorities believe that the gunman posted dayton, ohio. sad how these all-american

this racist screed online, cities, the names of these cities become known for their anti-immigrant screed online, talked about using violence to mass shootings, one of the many tragedies as we await more achieve a political end goal. information on the suspects, that is the dictionary more information on the victims, definition of terrorism. and it's baffling to me, more information on the motives. actually, why this story is what we do know is that this so-called manifesto, this racist largely not framed as such. >> he is a suspected terrorist. essay was posted on a right >> right. >> we should say that. wing -- not really right wing we're at the point where there's enough evidence of that. just nuts message board, 20 newsrooms are waiting for minutes before the shooting in government officials to say el paso. concretely that this is the investigators are look iing at e document from the -- >> it's perplexing why government officials aren't doing that. connection between them. i don't know why they need to wait for some federal official to call it terrorism to call it national reporter for the for what it is. we know the evidence right in washington post and cnn front of our faces. contributor and nicole hannah we can call it for what it is. jones is a "new york times" another point, too, the part magazine staff writer. about government officials nicole, what comes to mind to seemingly reluctant to call it you, first, when we're talking terrorism, i remember during the obama years when conservative about an apparently racist talk radio hosts and fox news hosts were very -- would press attack in texas? what comes to mind to you when it comes to the press and obama, call radical islamic

coverage of racism and racist extremism for what it is, call violence? it by its name. >> i think what comes to mind is i'm hopeful, i'm looking forward to the same members of the sot of the difficulty that the media, same conservative talk show hosts, demanding that this president call this for what it media has overall of how do we is, white supremacist terrorism. america is under attack from cover these acts? clearly there's a lot for to us itself and it's about time we still find out. start calling it for what it is. we've been struggling to describe racism as racism and to >> some political leaders have been out in front of this. describe racist acts as racist the texas land commissioner said alcohols. >> a story that's been going on all week long. on twitter multiple attacks from let's go back to last saturday. self described white terrorists here in the u.s. in the last several months. elijah cummings gets a tweet this is a real and present attacked by president trump. we've seen newsrooms coming up threat that must be denounced. with euphamisms of whether it's good for him and the other politicians willing to say that, but where is the president? a racist tweet storm. it was a racist tweet storm but jennifer, in your newsroom, the a lot of journalists are trace, do you all have conversations about when a mass uncomfortable to say so. shooting, when any shooting is >> it's amazing the number of an act of terror? >> we do. euphasm mis we can come up with. motivation does matter. racially tinged, racially you know, it's almost -- it's been, you know, like you said, infused, racial essence, to there's a lot more energy in the describe what is clearly a racist rhetoric. part of it comes from a government for foreign terror. discomfort of many white journalists who call out things

domestic terror, most acts of domestic terror are shootings. that they don't feel we should we're interested in that. say so directly. and also it comes from having a motivation and how did he obtain the gun are the most important lack of historical context things. it doesn't form the bulk of our themselves in order to describe. if you study the history of race conversations, though. we're more focused on what bits of this story could contribute in this country, you know this to the conversation that could is old language, not something possibly shape policy. >> what about this manifesto new, that he's recalling the worst rhetoric that black and brown people have faced in this point? how should news outlets approach country for a long time. >> let's get into what is really covering the words of an attacker, whether it's in uncomfortable here. in this racist essay that christchurch, california or elsewhere? >> i like calling it an essay. appears to be published by the el paso attacker, he uses words the grandiosity of those words, like invasion, his ppanic it's one small thing we could do. we don't think of the way that invasion. wesley, we know who else has been using those words for perpetrators are seeing this in years. >> of course. >> it's not just president elevating them. i'm glad to hear that, i don't trump. although we could put up on screen six of the times he has think we need to focus on the why anymore and newsrooms, for used the word invasion. right wing commentators, other the most part, aren't. we used to be fascinated, that political leaders who talk this would dominate the coverage. way about fellow citizens of the >> what caused the gunman to do world, fellow people. this? that was columbine. >> certainly. >> and for years, that's what we have multiple strands of

the public wanted to know after. proof here. about three, four years ago, a the first is that the drum beat of this type of rhetoric has huge change happened. people stopped asking me -- i do been present in our politics for all sorts of public events. they stopped asking the question years, going back well before why, which was the burning question and it really changed president trump, although it's to some version of how are we extremely present in our going to get out of this? contemporary politics and the what's going to happen? handful of black and brown how do we solve this? reporters who raise this look like they're crazy, that they in general we don't need to know are history takeral. why this particular general trump voteers can't be racist a-hole did this particular and no, these th language isn't thing. >> coming from a can colleague at npr who said we should call it a manifesto because this is an ideology. it's about a movement acres pack racists. i don't know how bodies we have to see, how many shootings we of lone wolves. the other lone wolves, they're a have to deal with till we accept pack that learn from each other, are inspired by each other in that white supremacy is the the darkest corners of the ideology that's kill more internet and have to recognize americans than any other this is an ideology. >> sure bus it's a grandiology. ideology in the history of america. to its core it's who we are as a it's not like the communist manifesto. this is some, you know, dipshit nation and always have been and our deniability isn't protecting us. it may be protecting people's feelings because they don't have who to grapple with the idea but

it's not keeping anyone safe. we also give them the bigots, beyond that, we have to be it's a very small thing we can whatever, them. do as journalists. willing to tell truth. we're not going to solve this. we tell people it's raining in this case, this is different. outside, right? and it's not, you know, prec when this is about white supremacy, we've come full circle. columbine is an odd thing. they were the first ones, precipitatingly infused -- no, modern, to take the tactics of terrorism and use it for their own selfish personal agenda. it's either raining or it isn't. and that's mostly what we've been dealing with the past 20 when conservative commentators, prominent ones, when years with most of these mass conservative politicians, not shooters but more and more are just the president, the senator coming back realizing this is a thing you could get so much from texas was tweeting about publicity and use it for the rise in the hispanic political ends, christ church. population just last week, ted the garlic festival possibly. cruz was talking about anti-fa >> still unclear. >> this one definitely. there have been several of these. it's coming back to being a being labeled as a terrorist organization, a group that terrorist tactic and that's scary. >> the better part of ten years hasn't murdered anyone. >> some of them may try. now we said don't name the you'll hear from "fox & friends" shooter. don't put his face on tv all day. host some of them have tried. newsrooms for the most part >> you'll hear a lot of things minimize the names and faces but from fox & friends and whether this keeps happening. those things are true or not is what do you think newsrooms

should be doing? >> the no notoriety movement, a l another thing. there is a contagion effect, >> talking about calling antifa making these people celebrities is a bad idea which is a why a lot of networks now -- recent a racial organization. shootings that i don't know who perpetrated them and that's never happened to me. i am used to the president i've covered this six years. and i also was a follower of these horrific events before i started covering them. i can't remember a shooting coming out talking to the where i don't remember the public. president obama has done it perpetrator. that hasn't happened. after mass shootings. we pulled up the videos from that was a movement started by these moments where they've the mother of an aur ora victim. spoken to the country after terror attacks and mass shootings. where do you think president trump is right now? >> he has been tweeting since if you do a google shoot search the el paso shooting. he tweeted initially a statement for a shooting, the shooter's about that. 14 minutes later, he started face comes up, the victims very tweeting about other things. rarely. >> in el paso, we need to know he tweeted good luck to an mma it was a white guy, who he was, fighter. he retweeted people saying he is where he came from. we need to know things about the not racist. and then eventually he tweeted

suspect, the family, et cetera. again about el paso and this don't we? >> i think so. we're always looking for a place morning he tweeted about ohio as where how could this have been well. stopped? that's where those conversations there was sug sg gruesome about how those tweets were grouped are very useful. where in this trajectory toward together. like god bless el paso and god tragedy could somebody have intervened? bless dayton, ohio. that's the reason there's a you could have a two-for-one fascination of how did it get to this point? >> i want to know about the ten tragedy tweet from the hours fs driving from north of president. his aides are probably worried dallas all the way to el paso. about him speaking publicly. normally a president would he drove and drove and drove and address the country. drove and targeted, apparently, this community. do you really trust donald trump who was he on the phone with? to come out and address the where were his parents, loved country in a way that hasn't ones? lot of questions. made it worse? more with the panel in a moment, including the gun control conversation. quick break here. more on cnn in a moment. historically, that hasn't rself. happened. think about charlottesville, he made it worse and made it all staining be done... about him. i think he's terrible talking and stay done through every season. about anything in any length that's not ultimately about him, that he does not bring back to behr semi-transparent stain. the subject of him. if he wanted to do that here, he find it exclusively at the home depot. could. and he could address the cause of the shootings and the idea ylg that's driving this violence but we know he's not going to do

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conducting his interview. covering shootings across the country, not just mass shootings, but shootings all across the country, a few recent headlines from the website. jennifer massey is one of the staff writers there. there are mass shootings that captivate the country. there are spectacles, deadly killings and suicides as a result of guns that don't go as heavily reported and in these moments we need to note that as well. >> yes. suicides are two-thirds and the everyday shooting coverage, there was a shooting in brownsville, brooklyn, 24 hours

before gilroy. did not quite get the same coverage. >> a dozen shot there? >> communities of color, >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. more breaking news here on shootings happen there bear the cnn, as authorities learn more disproportionate burden of gun about the gunmen in both el paso, texas, and dayton, ohio. violence and those shootings are not nearly as covered. >> change people's bodies and first to dayton. this just in from the cnn newsroom. the dayton shooter han lives forever, we know at least 42 injured between el paso and identified. we're go ahead to read hi name once and move on. dayton this weekend. do you find people tiptoe around 24-year-old connor betts. the gun conversation in the first 24 hours after these attacks? are people tiptoeing on a day fbi and local law enforcement like today? >> tiptoeing where, in the authorities have served a search community? >> often times from the right warrant they shooter's family there's a message that says don't politicize mass shootings hole in bellbrook, ohio, outside so there's a little tiptoeing day ton. about guns. connor bett, obviously the focus >> in some corners. parkland wiped a lot of thattha. moves from him to the victims. the suspect in el paso is in custody. the shooter in dayton was taken

down by police. the suspect in el paso was arrested. he's being interviewed by investigators. we've been able to scour his social media accounts. a twitter account linked to the el paso shooter, it has limited ticht, but back in early 2017, it shows him sharing and retweeting president trump's tweets, posting about the border wall, as well as liking certainly memes that were disparaging bernie sanders and nancy pelosi. this is from the twitter account from the suspect. at one point he liked a post from an anonymous account that had trump's maim spelled out in guns. he liked that. before that, in 2017 he posted build the wall, the best way potus has bork to secure the country as well. not a lot of social media since then. the facebook account was

essential dormant. but that's more information about the suspect from el paso. olivia, wesley and nicole are here with me. when we talk about the political preferences about a gunman, it doesn't necessarily mean a lot. it's worth noting, but doesn't mean a lot. >> sure. i think it's difficult for us to speculate about what drove him. all we know is that he did it. we know what actions he took. we know the effect it's had on the country and these family directly affected. >> and i think we have to ask -- these are white men in both cases. wesley, if they had been a black man, i think we would be calling it terrorism a lot faster. >> and a rhetorical question here a. well as a tactical and political question. first you see questions like the governor in texas, that it's too early to make it about politics. it's hard to believe if there

had been a black lives matter posted -- >> we now have a few hours between mass shootings. so when can we politicize it? >> nicole, 30 seconds left. last word to you on this. >> we have a domestic terror problem in this country. where he need to treat that the same way we would treat this if there were terrorism outside our borders. this would be calls to investigate and go after these groups. yet we see no calls to go after the white nationalist groups and address the ideology that's -- >> to our panel, thank you very much. jake tapper continues cnn's live coverage in a moment. s a philad- family recipe. can i see it? no. philadelphia dips. so good, you'll take all the credit.

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hello, i'm jake tapper, the state of our union are in shock. at least 29 people were killed just hours apart in two killings. the first shooting saturday morning in el paso, texas, when an accused domestic terrorist opened fire at a wall matt. 20 people killed, 26 injured. a gunman was taken into custody. we are told he's talking with law enforcement. texas governor