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people are investigating that mass shooting as a possible hate kriism. >> from the manifesto we first saw, we have to attribute that directly to him, so we're going down that road. it's beginning to look more solidly like that is the case. >> the manifesto is a document uploaded just before the shooting, that is a screed filled with anti-immigrants and anti-la tingeo immigrants. a business and entertainment district. 27 people, he parent was carrying body armor with a high-capacity rifle. we're learning more about that suspected terrorist in dayton.

follo polo sandoval has arrived on the scene. what are you learning? >> reporter: the question is, what is that motive? sunday authorities and members of t-- family members of those killed are on dealing with that question. we're standing in a thriving arts and entertainment district on a sunday afternoon, could potentially be bustling with people, but instead there's an eerie silence, the only noise essential journalists on the ground, and a couple blocks away a church where afternoon service just wrapped up. so there's an eerie silence downtown. really the main question what's

that motive. he shot and killed nine people before police could arrive in just mere moments, opened fire, shooting and killing that suspect. they are the ones tasked with potentially following this trail of evidence. investigators we're told are processing a scene about ten miles away from where we are, and that could potentially provide some crucial clues while the community is tasks with basically healing and left about answering that question -- why did this lap? >> polo sandoval, thank you so much. just to reiterate a point i made, cnn has the names and photographs of both the alleged shooter in dayton, ohio, and the accused terrorist in el paso. we have reported them, but we

are not going to share them beyond the initial reporting of the names. we don't want to bring any more attention to the heinous acts than has already been given. for more, joining me now from las vegas, democratic presidential candidate and senator from vermont, bernie sanders. senator, under these conditions, it's horrible to bring you in to talk about this, but thank you for doing so. two mass shootings within 13 hours. you tweeted just a few minutes ago, mr. president, stop your racist, hateful and anti-immigrant rhetoric. your language creates a environment which emboldened violence. >> i am sure that president trump did not want anybody in this country to go around shooting other people. but what he's got to understand is when you have language that is racist, that is virulently

andy-immigrant, there are mentally unstable people in this country who see that as a sign to do terrible, terrible things. i think the president has to stop the racism and that xenophobia immediately. second of all, jake, i think the issue of the moment is whether the nra will continue to determine gun policy in america, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of the american people, gun owners and non-gun owner want. i have asked mitch mcconnell to bring us back so we can work on the legislation we need. the truth of the matter is the american people want to expand background checks, they want to

end the so-called gun show loophole. they want to in many cases ban assault weapons, and my own view is we may want to be thinking about treating assault weapons the same way we treat machine guns today, having a strict license requirements for them. we want to make sure that we went the process by which people can legally walk into a gun show, buy all the guns they want, and then sell those guns to criminal elements. so there's a lot to be worked on, but i think the american people are sick and tired of the nra determining gun policy in america. >> as you know, machine guns in this country are very tightly regulated. it's almost impossible to get one. you really think that the united states senate would vote for a measure that would make them as difficult to obtain a semiautomatic assault rifles as machine guns? >> jake, here is the fact.

there are somewhere between 5 to 10 million assault weapons on the streets of america today. that's more, unbelievably, than the united states military has. so what we need to do is to sit down together and determine, for a start, clearly i think no more sale and distribution of assault weapons, and then figure out how we go forward at a time, you know, when it doesn't give me a good feeling to say this, but we all know it to be true. there are thousands of people in this country in every state of america who are suicidal or homicidal. that's the sad reality of mentality health in american today. when you have millions of assault weapons out there, that's not a good mix. we need to do bold thinking, but essential do what the american people want, not what the nra wants. >> cnn has learned a twitter su

terrorist in el paso was sharing and retweeting some of the president trump's tweets and postings about the border wall. now, president trump has condemned the shooting. if that so-called manifesto, that screed was his, when i believe law enforcement says it is his, he does say i felt this way long before president trump, but given that, what do you make of the fact he was retweeting some of president trump's tweets about the wall? >> look, i mean, clearly donald trump does not want anybody shooting down innocent people. you know, trump and i disagree on everything, but i'm not going to suggest for one second that that is what trump wants, but what he has to understand, in a nation when you have many, many thousands of people who are mentally unstable, when you talk about invasions and hordes of people, and talk about mexicans

as criminals and rapists, and a country under siege, you have unstable people who see that as a sign they have to take up arms and do the horrific things we just saw in el paso. so, look, bottom line is if there's any silver lining in this horrible, horrible, horrible period in american history, it is that all of us, conservatives, progress i was, republicans, democrats, independenting, have to come together and think our way through this. the bottom line is the nra is way, way, way out of touch with where the american people are on the issue of gun safety. mitch mcconnell and donald trump have got to stand up to the nra, and let's sit down and figure out a path forward that protects the american people. you know, jake, warm-up things that bo-- one of the things tha bothers me so much, is much kids going back to school soon.

they're trauma tided. when they go into a school where it should be a place of learns, kids enjoying each other, and now they're frightened. don't underestimate the trauma this has on children and all americans. this is a major, major issue. . one of your 2020 rivals, congressman beto o'rourke, told me this morning he believes that president trump is a white supremacist or white nationalist. do you agree? >> i do. look. it gives me to pleasure to say this, but i think all of the evidence out there suggests that we have a president who is a racist, who is a xenophobe, who appeals and is trying to appeal to white nationalism, and, you know, it breaks my hard to have to say this is the person we have who is president of the united states. >> if you don't mind my asking a

personal question, because i know you're not really one for that. after the tree of life shooting, which is also part of this deranged white supremacist theory of jews bringing in latinos to commit white genocide on this country, so this was no longer a white country -- again, this is an insane conspiracy theory from the far fringes of the fever swamps of the internet. but that's what motivated the tree of life terrorist against jews. you would be the first jewish president. i'm wonder if you feel less comfortable, less safe in america today, than you did 10 or 20 years ago? >> jake, it's only jews -- you're right. i went to the sing agog and spoke to him. it's the african heron american

community it's a terrible mask as a mosque in meeting with muslim leaders in los angeles. we can disagree on health care and the environment and educational policies. but there should not be a moment in american history, where we have a president who is deliberately trying to divide us up, based on our religion, base odd where hew where we came from, based on the color of our skin. that's so american, so much against everything that i was led to believe, you were let to believe about what this country assistants for, you know?

i hope very much that mitch mcconnell will have the courage to bring us back to washington and put together legislation which has the wide support of the american people this is not radical stuff. this is what the american -- they want to end the loopholes, end the straw man position, many people want to band assault weapons. maybe we should go further, but we have to come together as a people and cannot let the nra dominate the discussion. senator bernie sanders, thank you for joining us on this horrible day. >> thank you for having me, jake. mayor nan whal whaley is ho another news conference. >> we want to express our great

sympathy. it's a heartbreaking tragedy, and it's the type of tragedy that you pray never comes to your state our to your community. the mayor and i talked very early this morning. prior to that i received a call from our public safety people about the situation. i just want to say that the city of dayton, montgomery county everyone has done an amazing job. you practice for these tragedies and pray to got they never occur. if you don't practice, you're not ready. it's clear dayton was ready, the community was ready. the mayor has pointed out to me how many other departments made themselves available and have been involved in helping.

i want to thank all of them there. i want to thank the dayton police department, the officers who were involved in ending this tragedy, their professionalism, their quickness, their amazing courage and their response undoubtedly saved many, many lives. we will never know how many lives were saved. the police department and the mayor gave me a tour -- my wife and i the tour a few minutes ago. the assailant was obviously very, very close to being able to kill dozens and dozens more people. so in this tragedy, we have to thank our first responders. we have to thank our police department for the amazing job that they have done. the mayor and i have been in

fact throughout the morning, and will continue to be in fact. again, my haz off to the city of dayton, to the police department and to the first responders. thanks, may user. >> thank you, governor. bev gone through -- the governor has always been one to quickly call convictly check in and be here when we're dealing with these issues, so we personal appreciate your leadership. >> thank you, mayor. first thing i'd like to do is go

ahead and confirm the identity or released the identity of the shooter. the shooter in this incident is connor betts, white male, 24, date of birth, 10/28/94. it's our understanding that some images of the suspect have been posted by media, and some of those are not correct. so please make sure you have the correct photograph or image of the suspect when you report that. secondly, there's -- i believe some of the media has the wrong facebook post iing on their website. if you would please make sure you have the correct ones so we are identifying the proper

person's image. with that, we will have additional information at 4:00. we ownerly thought it would be about a 3:00 briefings, for a more comprehensive view of what happened. it will be at 4:00 right here. so we will give you additional information on the suspect and what transpired. at this time i will give you the names and demographics of the nine people who were killed. and the first one is lois oglesby, black female, 27. megan betts, white female, 22. saleh, say yesterday, black male, 38. derek fudge, black male, 57.

logan turner, white male, 30. nicholas cummer, white male, 25. thomas mcnichols, black male, 25. beatrice warren curtis, black female, 36. and monica brickhouse, black female, 39. those are the nine names of the individuals who were killed overnight. with that, i'll turn it back over to the mayor. so tonight i want to also announce, we will have a vigil at 8:00 p.m. we have talked with the leaders of the oregon business district association. it would be on the streets of fifth street in the oregon district at 8:00 p.m. this evening. also the blood center is closed today. we've been informed they have

adequate supply today, but we want to remind people today if they want to take action, it would be good to donate blood tomorrow. we have a special effort we're putting together. i want to thank the dayton foundation and have mike parks come forward to explain what we're trying to do for victims' families. >> thanks, mayor. first our thoughts and prayers are with the family vice presidents. two moons ago we came together to help those in need. once again, we will do that. as we speak, a fund is being established called the dayton oregon district tragedy fund. that would be up and going later this afternoon for those who would like to help. if you'd like to help your neighbors and friends, there would be a way to do that to assist those who have been impacted. >> thank you, mike. i think what's most amazing about our community is once

people woke up as early as 5:00, 6:00, 7:00 a.m., folks and leaders from across the community called and said what can i do? and others calls and immediately stepped in. i want to appreciate the dayton foundation for doing this quickly. we know there will be people that weren't prepared, obviously for such a tragic event in their families with that, questions. [ inaudible question ]. >> yes, that's the sister of the suspect. >> reporter: was she found in a different location from the other two victims? >> all nine shooting victims were located in the oregon district on or around fifth street. >> reporter: is there another crime scene in a different area related to this? >> as i said earlier, the investigation leads is in

different directions. obviously we look at vehicles, we look at houses, and yes, we did conduct a search warrant earlier today. >> reporter: can you say -- >> we will put this on our site ago well. how about we do that? is that okay? i think that's best. >> reporter: you mentioned that all the victims were found in the same location, but we are hearing reporter that the suspect's sister and her boyfriend were found in a car. can you comment on that? >> that's incorrect. i will say that the family members of all nine people who are deceased have been notified and a victim witness member from the montgomerys county prosecutor's office has been assigned to each of the families to help them through the process. >> reporter: any more information about a motive? >> we will address that at 4:00.

we will be able to provide much more information on the actual incident itself at 4:00. [ inaudible question ]. >> the address that we -- where he was staying, where we conducted a search warrant earlier das was in bellbrook. >> reporter: thes suspect -- >> all the victims are from our own backyard, too, so this is just an immense tragedy. no matter where the victims are from, they're victims. our hearts go out to the families. this is a miami valley tragedy. >> reporter: can you comment on the suspect's clothing? we're hearing that something on his sweatshirt represented death. >> i cannot. we'll comment more at 4:00. i don't know if we'll get into that great of detail, but we

will provide as comprehensive an overview of what occurred at 4:00. >> reporter: the shooting in the parking lot behind ned peppers on -- >> the shoot been took place on and around the street of fifth treatment. >> we're telling you the shooting took place on east fifth street and on the sidewalks. >> reporter: not the parking lot? >> not the parking lot, correct. >> reporter: you said it was the shooter's sister, but what about a boyfriend? -- [ inaudible question ] >> we can give a bit more information at 4:00 about that. >> i'm sorry, i can't hear you. [ inaudible question ] >> we'll try to get you a general idea of that at 4:00. >> reporter: governor, you said

that dayton was clearly prepared for this. does that speak there was no way to avoid the nine people killed? >> i think that's the first thought that -- whenever there's a tragedy of any kind much the question that policy makers have to think about, is there anything we can do in the future to make sure something like this does not happen -- make sure is the wrong terms, but lessen the possibility or lessen the number of people who are killed. these mass shootings, if you go back -- and i don't pretend to be an expert -- they're all alike and all different in that sense. sometimes you get different lessons from each one of them. i don't think today is the day to try to draw the lessons. frankly we don't have all the facts. there will be ample time for all of us to talk about what we lenders from this tragedy, but, again, without all the facts, i would tell people wait until you

get all the facts and we had can start having those discussions. >> reporter: in fairness i think the mayor said this is the 250th -- it's the 216th day of the year. it's more than one a day at this pace. at what point has time expired that you before before the next one? >> with all derespect you've asked several questions at the same time. let me say there will be ample time to discuss the lessons learned from what happened today. let's first get the facts and get all the facts out. there will be time to have those discussions. each one of us in public office has an obligation to take what facts occur, to take tragedies l. it's a natural disaster e. whether it's the disaster of a mass shooting such as this, whatever it is, and try to come up with lessons learned.

>> reporter: i'm wondering if -- [ inaudible question ]. -- were targeted specifically? specifically sought out? >> we will address that as best we can as 4:00. due to the very short timeline of violence, it's hard to imagine that there was much discrimination in the shooting. it happened in a very short period of time. [ inaudible question ] >> absolutely. we're always looking at what could have motivated such a horrific action as this, and like i said this morning, we're interviewing dozens of people and going through a lot of

different electronic evidence, other evidence to try to determine that. we don't have that answer yet. this is the first day. this will be a lengthy investigation. we'll do our best to get the information to you, but speculating at this point would be premature railroad is the shooter's family cooperative at this time? >> i won't address that. [ inaudible question ]. >> we said it was a long rifle with extra magazines as well as wearing body armor. >> reporter: did he have extra guns? or just that one gun? >> we can get you more specifics at 4:00. >> i'll bet we'll see you all at 4:00. i want to recognize some people who are here. the coroner's office has been in great partnership, obviously. coroner has been in autopsy all day. eric blaine is here.

state representative plummer is here. auditor steve yost is here. >> and my dear friend, and i don't think i wouldn't get through anything without don kettering. see you at 3:00 and at 4:00. that's the mayor of dayton, and assistant police chief of dayton, ohio giving us the later. >> i want to find out what they make of it all. lisa, i want to start with you. you just heard the victims' names lead off. names and demographics. two thirds, six out of the nine victims, were identified as african-american. dayton is a city that i think is about 40% african-american. does it seem two thirds of the victims were black? >> well, look, jake, what i heard was the governor talk about learning lessons, how we

need to learn from this, and similar events. i think we need to learn the lessons of the past, which means in years past we had a whole of government approach to international terrorism. i think we need to apply the same type of unity of focus to domestic terrorism. we should make no mistake, that's what the events in el paso and other shootings have been. as to your question about demographics, it's early to say. we don't know specifically the motivation of this attacker, this terrorist. there will be lots more to come in that vein. the fbi and state and local law enforcement been court parallel investigation, is my understanding. there will be a lot more to learn about motivations, what prompted this, what fridayers this individual. i want to acknowledge, however, the incredible work and speedy

work it sounds like first responder and law enforcement did. chief among the lessons is treating domestic terrorism with the same priority focus that we have in years past with international terrorism. >> we had andrew mccabe on the show earlier, he talked about the fbi doesn't have the same tools to approach domestic terrorism that they have to address international terrorism such as al qaeda -- >> julian kaymer, the shooter's sister was at the indicated as a victim. what does that tell you the fact that his sister was also one of his targets. >> okay. so that's not a coincidence. sheds didn't just happen to be on the street. i think it's telling that the authorities said they're going to come out at 3:00 p.m. with a greater narrative of what happened in this family.

i'm just going to state what we know, and then we'll figure out the pieces, how they put them together. you have a white male going -- or at least killing his white sister in an area in which at least the numbers are predominantly african-american. >> this is a family rage issue, but also something else. that's what i'm taking away from the conference. they're coming back at 3:00. their failure to answer in the affirmative that the family is actually being cooperative. this is what we learn from the interviews, but the white sister factor and predominantly african-americans killed is my takeaway from that press conference. >> law enforcement has visited the shooter's home. again, we're not mentioning the name of the shooters. >> you can put it into two big

baskets of stuff. first digital. i want to know things like google search his that history starts, if it started, looking at things like booedy armor. we're seeing they increasingly in the past few years, whether this person or people are part of an informal network that talks about things like white supremacy. but you're talking about the human piece, the interviews. there of course is a secondary piece. you want to know if anybody knew something beforehand? i mentioned pulse, because there were long-standing questions about whether family members knew anything about the shooter and whether they were be partly culpable. and also with the boston marathon bomber. >> that's exactly right. there will be some part of the family that knew what the rage was with this killer. we also don't know whether he

was on law enforcement radars for other activities, for other violent activities, sister abuse, family abuse, those all come out, but i really think this factor of presumably the sister as a victim in public is just unique, it's horrifying, and there are multiple victims because of the family rage. that's what we will learn about more. >> as you noted, it's -- juliette, the idea that he could have killed his sister at home where they lived, but instead he went downtown to dayton, a much more diverse area, killed her, her boyfriend we're told, and also seven other individuals, and six of the nine killed were black, seems like there might be some information there that's relevant. let's turn to the el paso

attack. the u.s. attorney in west texas says they're treating the case as domestic terror what does that mean in terms of the investigation? >> so that was significant to me, jake, and i'm sure to phil and juliette as well. they're looking for groups, potential links between the el paso attacker and other groups they may have investigations going into. they're looking into what type of domestic grievance may have motivated this individual. the manifesto seems quite clear, the law enforcement authorities have linked to this attacker, and importantly and somewhat uniquely, though let's pause for a minute on how incredible it is we're talking about this as a series of types of situations. we have many unfortunately of these situations to compare it to, but this individual is talking, it seems, to law

enforcement we have seen cases are indications thus far from the authorities, that they are feeling increasingly confident about his motivations, pairing this manifesto to him. all of that will be part of their investigation, domestic terror focus will, i think, in the first instance look at the motivations what contacts he may have had with other individuals who espouse a similar ideaologies. >> thanks, one and all. one former rep governor is say enough is enough. we need gun reform now. who is it? that's next. use as much as you want, when you want. and if you like netflix, it's included on us. plus no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees are included. and now for a limited time, with each new line,ly.

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make your first month payment. experience amazing. welcome back. we invited several republican lawmakers to come on the show and talk about what can be done. all of them declined to come on, as did anyone from the white house, to talk about these shootings, but ohio's former republican governor is willing to share his thoughts. joining me now former ohio governor john kasich. governor, what is your reaction? >> come on, jake, we're all devastated. after the las vegas shootings, i convened a group in ohio to spas

some reasonable gun control measures. i had to do most of them by executive order. i couldn't get any of it through legislature, including a simple thing like a red flag law, if you know somebody in your family posed a threat to your family or somebody else, you go to the judge and have their gun taken away. i could not get that done. i hear all the thoughts and prayers. i can pray with the best of them, but prayer without action doesn't matter. people say, you know, it's all white nationalism, yeah, we should condemn it. frankly that's a cause to look at if somebody is stable or not, but at the same time we need reasonable gun control legislation. when i convened a group in ohio to solve some of this problem, or to get at some of this problem, since las vegas, when i convened a group, there has been 34 of these type of shootings. the fact of the matter it is, it

is outrageous for the politicians to just sit back and hope this will go away. one other thing, the media has a tendsancy to focus, focus, and then it goes away. there's no pressure. you want to control people need to start marching like parkland, florida. florida had no interest whatsoever until thousands incredibly brave students demanded it. the people of the state demanded it. too much of the time the only voice you hear from are gun owner people, most of whom are reasonable, but the ones who don't want any changes, they just do a barrage of negativity. the fact is everybody else sits still. you want to get gun control legislation, begin to march for it, and you will get it. >> first of all, governor, why do you think the legislature would not pass any further gun restrictions when you were governor and pushing for them? >> politics, jake. >> but what? >> that's why they don't pass

it. they're afraid of the gun owners. >> because the gun owners will vote them out of each? >> yeah, or they'll make their life miserable. you know, i can't tell you how many legislators i talk to, and they're like one guy called me. he doesn't like any of this stuff. let's be clear, most gun oranges favor reasonable gun control legislation another little dirty secret. people want to blame in on republicans, they should carry a large part of this blame. you know how many democrats run for the fences whenever this comes up? they don't want to deal with it, either. plain and simple. your candidates for president -- i'm calling it the way it is. >> but the house of representatives, which is now under democratic passed some gun control restrictions and we've had a number of democrats calling for red flag laws to gun licensing, to further

restricting whether or not somebody can purchase a semiautomaticjake, i can tell y legislature we didn't have the kind of strong bipartisan support we needed, nor did -- look, this is not a republican or democrat issue, this is what i'm trying to tell you. i'm not trying to shift blame from republicans. after las vegas, and one thing after another, they all ought to be doing something. running for president that's a whole other kettle of fish. i'm trying to suggest that until the public itself and the media -- for example, the dayton newspaper, the newspaper in el paso, it should be front page every day until they get some of these restrictions in place. that's what has to happen, jake. >> you were a fairly reliable gun rights vote when you were in congress. did las vegas change this for

you? >> no. look, jake, i voted for the 94 -- biden gets condemned for the '94 crime bill. that's when we banned assault weapons and high magazines. we found out that manufacturers figured out how to recon figure the gun. the fact is the high magazine -- high-capacity magazine should have stayed in place. i believe those things matter. now, when i did that, the gun people were against me all the time. when i ran for governor, the democrat candidate for governor juan endorsed by the nra. they did everything they could to defeat me in that election. unfortunately the police union who wanted me to vote for that ban was nowhere to be found. in fact they endorsed him as well. so you pay a high price accompli politically for leading on this issue. think about what this is. it's in a walmart in el paso. it's in a garlic festival in

california. it's in dayton in an entertainment district. jake, it could be our family. >> i know. >> god bless those families. did you see the pain on those people's faces. >> it's heartbreaking. >> it is, and it demands we start to do something. we need leadership at all levels of both parties and the media that keeps the heat on. we need people to begin the rallies, and you're not going to get it all. small steps. small steps. you won't prevent all of this. >> there is another aspect to the el paso shooting, at least, and we're waiting for more information about the dayton shooter, but the el paso alleged terrorist is believed to have written this white supremacist and racist screed that was posted on 8chan, and there's a lot of people, presidential

candidates and republicans who say president trump gives comfort to white supremacists, that he's not responsible for these shootings, that he should not be blamed for the shootings, but that he creates an environment where white supremacists are able to thrive. do you agree? do you disagree? what's your take? >> you know, in light of 29 people being murdered, i think casts blame -- nobody has more critical of his divisive language than i have been. there's no republican in the universe that's been more critical. this is not the time now. what i will tell you, jake and what i have been so upset and worked up because of my own family and risk to them and families all over america is this business of dividing and hatred and polarization leads nowhere but a house divided

against itself will not stand. that's not just me. that's biblical. the fact is that this rhetoric has going on for a long time leads the people taking matter sometimes boo their own hands, particularly when they're not in balance. that's why this red flag law matters so much. i'm not going to say it's going to prevent anything, but if you spot mob who is unstable and poses a threat, why not using some sort of technology to pick up these kinds of radical things that can lead one to conclude that the person that is posts these things is not stable -- and with the protection of court to determine who is stable and who is not. so we have to end all the division, jake. i wrote a book, "two paths" all those things will help. president trump did tweet about the shooting in el paso, condemning it as, quote, a

hateful act and act of coward is. is that adequate? enough a condemnation? >> no, no. if i were president, i would convene a group today and say we're going to have national gun reform, period, end of story. they don't want to do that. they don't want to disrupt the base of people who are gun owners, including democrats, who i might say, again they don't want to disrupt it. it could hurt them politically. there could be a group convened. it should include law enforcement. it should include people of faith. this is exactly, exactly what we did in ohio. we made a little bit of progress, but not the progress i wanted. here in ohio, i call on ohioans, the governor, all of them, pass the red flag law. do something now. don't keep thinking it will fade away. it may fate away with the media, it may fate away with the

public, but how many do we need? do we need 134? search yourself. look in the mirror. stand up. do something. please, do something. and don't behind the fact oh, we've got all this rigmarole and if we had more people with more guns, it would stop the violence. come on, that's nonsense. you've got to do something here to restrict this. >> governor john kasich, former governor john kasich of ohio, thank you for joining us today. >> thanks, jake. what we do not yet know in the wake of this weekend's mass shootings is what, if anything, our elected representatives might try to do to stop or at least curtail these awful attacks. joining me 2020 presidential candidate and ohio congressman tim ryan. congressman ryan, your reaction to the mass shootings in el paspass

-- ppaso yesterday and then yo wake up to your own state in dayton. >> yeah, it's exhausting. i think the whole country is scared. we've got kids going to school, parents are scared to death to send their kids to school. you watch and you see walmart in the background, dillard's in the background, churches in the background of some of these shootings and you think there's no place safe to go. that's eating at us as a country and that's part of the reason why our anxiety level is so high. and what happened down in el paso, you cannot -- you cannot not connect the president of the united states and his rhetoric. i read that manifesto this morning a couple of times. the language in there is so similar to the kind of language that you hear at a trump rally, you see in his tweets, and the president isn't just speaking to, you know, really smart

people who are stable at his rallies. he's speaking to the lowest common denominator to where this jackass gets in a car and drives ten hours to go kill latinos and hispanics and mexicans, mostly mexicans. i mean he's creating a culture and an environment in which this stuff keeps happening. we're so dysfunctional. you mentioned it in the last interview. we passed universal background checks out of the house of representatives. it's sitting at mitch mcconnell's doorstep right now and he needs to act on it and this country does need to mobilize and get him to act on it. >> earlier in the show, congressman, your 2020 rival, beto o'rourke, said that he thought president trump was a white nationalist. i asked bernie sanders if he agreed. he said yes. i asked pete buttigieg if he agreed. he said at the very least he makes white nationalists feel comfortable or words to that effect. what do you think, is president trump a white nationalist? >> well, the white nationalists

think he's a white nationalist, and that's the crux of the problem. they support him. the david dukes of the world support him. they said he's going to implement their agenda. that's all you need to know. and it's causing killings happening here in the united states. it's created a toxic culture now in the united states around the immigration issue, around -- now around the gun issue. and he has to bear responsibility. more than anything, presidents of the united states, they create culture. that culture can say we're going to reach for the stars and we're going to go to the moon or that culture can be go back to where you came from. or you come from a shithole country. those are two different examples. what kind of country do we want? we have got to mobilize. people cannot be quiet anymore. i'm not saying we've got to yell

and scream, i'm saying we have to act. people who are on the sidelines who want to ignore the toxicity that's happening have got to step up so we can actually start getting some stuff done. >> you used to have an "a" rating from the nra and you have changed your views. why did you change your mind on supporting further restrictions on gun ownership. >> because i'm a living, breathing adult who is awake and watching what's happening and could no longer watch the inaction happening. i come from a state like ohio where we have a sportsman's culture, we hunt, and so that's kind of where i started politically. but watching kids get killed in schools and watching the nightclubs and what happened in nevada, i didn't want anything to do with it. not only do i have an "f" rating now, i gave every dollar that i got from the nra to the gun control groups because i want

them to have the resources they need to continue to push this message out. and we've got to activate. we're starting to have conversations, jake, with some of these groups about a national vigil tomorrow night about 8:00 where the whole country goes out, buy candles, go to your town square, get your priest, get your pastor, let's go out and let the world know that this is unacceptable. we're not going to yell and scream. i think we should do 29 minutes of silence, one minute for each of the victims that were killed in the last two days. i certainly invite all of the other presidential candidates to help communicate this with their email lists and all the people that were always asking them for money and asking them to do things. let's do a national vigil tomorrow night with 29 minutes of silence and start the process of healing this country, jake. this is just exhausting for

everybody. we've got to do something about it. i think we should start immediately bringing this country together. >> congressman tim ryan, democrat from ohio, thank you so much for joining us today. try to enjoy the rest of your sunday with your family. we appreciate your time, sir. >> thanks, jake. and for you at home, try to enjoy the rest of your sunday with your family. stay with cnn all day for the latest on this heart-wrenching day in the united states of america. you don't live in one corner... ...fragrance shouldn't either. air wick's new technology releases fragrance upwards and outwards, unlike glade. so now you can fill every corner with fragrance.

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hello, everyone, thank you so much for joining me this sunday. i'm live at the cnn world headquarters in atlanta along with my colleague, jim sciutto, who is in el paso, texas. we begin with two american cities reeling today and a nation devastated. a pair of mass shootings, one in el paso, texas, saturday afternoon. the other in dayton, ohio, overnight which left a combined total of 29 people dead and more than 50 injured between these two mass shootings. the ho