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this is cnn breaking news. >> two mass shootings 13 hours apart less than a week after the last mass shooting. lives changed forever. el paso, which recorded 23 murders last year, saw 20 in a single incident. one that's being treated as domestic terrorism. a gunman at a local walmart in dayton, ohio, nine killed at a popular night spot. we begin in el paso. let's talk about the latest. >> reporter: anderson, across the city of el paso, a number of vig vigils. we are here at a sports complex on the east side of town. this is a vigil poignant because out in front of the walmart store was a group of -- a soccer team, young kids, ages 6 to 10. a group of five kids with parents.

they were raising money for the soccer team when the gunman opened fire. we interviewed coaches that came racing to the scene. they described the moments of how the parents trying to block the shooter from their children, giving the chinldren a chance t escape. the three parents are fighting for their lives in area hospitals tonight. that's what brings all of these people here you see behind me to this vigil, to pray for those three parents that are in the hospital tonight. >> talk about the latest that we know about the shooter whose name we're not using because we don't want -- frankly, history shouldn't remember this person's name. what do we know about the believes of this person? the motive. >> reporter: there's significant news on that front tonight. anderson, that 21-year-old white male has been charged with capital murder. the district attorney here in el paso says they will seek the death penalty against him and

also federal investigators are pursuing perhaps federal hate crime charges as well. that's another avenue of this ve investigation that will continue in the weeks ahead. that's significant development on the gunman today. >> in terms of the so-called manifesto that this person posted, can you talk about what was in that? >> reporter: this was a hate-filled diatribe, talking about his anger toward what he described as the hispanic invasion of texas. he wanted to come here and target hispanic americans at this walmart. that's something that is not lost on the people gathering here at this memorial. what i hear over and over is they wonder how in the world this man could have gotten in that car, driven ten hours and not had second thoughts about what he was about to do.

>> what are families being told tonight about their loved ones? >> reporter: the process we heard from investigators today is that all of the victims bodies that were at the crime scene have been removed. they have been taken to the medical examiner's office. that allows the formal process of the official notifications to begin going out. there are a number of people who had been waiting desperately for some 30 hours waiting for news of their loved ones that they lost touch with them. presumably, right now, that is in the process of happening for dozens of family members who have been standing vigil, waiting to get some kind of news. in the hours ahead and the next day or so, we will get a better sense of the names of the list of names of who died in this attack. >> awful vigil, an awful wait for the families who do not have official word. thank you very much. 13 hours later in a part of dayton, ohio, known for night

life, a mass killer struck. police were on the scene within 24 seconds. still, it was long enough for the gunman to kill nine and wound many more. what's the latest you are hearing? >> reporter: we have been at this vigil here in dayton this evening. it's starting to break up. it's been going on an hour. it's been a somber evening here in dayton. a lot of folks are talking about the police force here and the heroes that they are. when this shooting occurred at 1:05 in the morning, at this bar right here behind me, that is when police jumped into action. they took down the shooter within 30 seconds of him firing his first bullet. we know that he came here with a .223 caliber rifle. he was wearing a bulletproof vest. he was wearing a mask and had a magazine full of ammunition. it wasn't just one gun police are now saying. it was two. they found a shotgun in his car

which he never did get to use because they were able to take him down so quickly. in all, as you mentioned, nine people dead, 27 taken to the hospital. many of them have been released. no life-threatening injuries to report. that's good. one sad and very bizarre twist here in this story is that police are saying the gunman, one of the victims that the gunman took down was his own sister and a male friend who came together with the two of them here overnight at 1:00 a.m. this morning was injured. they are talking to that male companion, that male friend. they say -- they don't think he had any prior knowledge of this shooting. his own sister was killed in this, his 22-year-old sister. getting to motive, they are saying they don't have a motive. two law enforcement sources tell us here at cnn that there were writings found from a search warrant at this suspect's home that show that he did have interest in killing people. again, police are not saying anything about a motive. anderson, we have been talking

to people all night at this vigil. i want to introduce you to donna johnson who lost her nephew in this shooting. donna, my condolences to you, all of us, we're so sorry for your loss. can you tell me about your nephew? >> yes. his name was thomas mcnichols, he was 25 years old. he was the father of four, ages 2 to 8. he was a gentle giant. loved his family. loved his kids. he worked yesterday and just wanted to come out and have a nice time. >> he was in line. got shot. just waiting to get into the bar. >> reporter: one thing you were telling me -- you are wearing a shirt that says love. love was something that he had a lot to give. >> he had lots of love. every time he left the house, he always say, i love you. that was our thing.

he never left nowhere -- whenever he said good-bye, it's always i love you. >> reporter: he lived with you because he lost his mom? >> my sister. my baby sister. he was her baby boy. >> reporter: you looked at him for years. and now this. >> now this. >> reporter: what will you tell his children? >> i will tell his kids, they had an amazing dad. they know that their dad loved them. he was -- he loved -- he was a loving family man. the kids know that he loved them. we are just going to always honor his memory in love. that's what we know to do. we love you. coming down here tonight, i didn't know what to throw on. i found this t-shirt with love. it was perfect with him. >> reporter: a lot of love in this area tonight.

a lot of hope. hopefully, this community is very strong. those like donna johnson will be coming together and honoring those they lost and continuing to have hope for the future. back to you. >> thanks. thanks ms. johnson for talking to us in the midst of her grief. moments ago the fbi issued a new directive. josh campbell joins us with that. explain what this new directive says. >> we are learning new details about the federal government's response in the wake of the spate of mass shootings in california, here in texas and then overnight in dayton, ohio. two law enforcement sources telling myself and our colleague that the fbi director ordered a nationwide threat assessment by the field offices, the goal being to attempt to detect similar threats similar to the recent spate of attacks based on the characteristics known to date. we're told that the fbi has

established a 24-hour command group inside its operations at fbi headquarters to monitor the various threat streams coming into the fbi and local law enforcement. this comes after the fbi deployed numerous resources around the country. we know they sent forensic examiners to california. they go through that scene. they are assisting authorities in ohio in response to the tack in dayt in dayton, ohio. we are being told the fbi is sending 20 forensic examiners to go through the walmart to process this crime scene. lastly, the most heartbreaking part of this operation, the fbi sending a host of victim witness specialists here to el paso to work with the family members who have been impacted by another spate of violence involving a gun here in the united states. i want to dig deeper into

the motivation. in the manifesto attributed to him, he makes reference to the mexican invasion of texas. he uses other racist themes. it's far from an isolated case. according to testimony just a couple weeks ago from the fbi director, there have been 100 domestic terrorism arrests with the majority tied to white supremacy. >> i will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we have investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence. it includes other things as well. >> joining us is former fbi director director andrew mccabe. you say that there is no doubt that these domestic terrorist attacks are increasing. the numbers i think you said are

off the charts compared to previous years. how do you explain that? >> it's hard to explain, anderson. comparing the levels of arrests that the director referred to in his testimony with the sort of disruptions as we call them or arrests that we were making in 2012 and 2013, when i was leading that division at the bureau, these numbers are very high. 100 arrests at a basically midpoint with months left in the fiscal year, which is the calendar by which the bureau measures those things, they could very well be at an all-time high by the end of the year. a lot of different factors that could potentially be influencing that increase. i can assure you that an lifral will look for similarities from event to event, looking at the writings and communications of these attackers, trying to piece together how these folks were

influenced and what pushed them down that pathway to radicalization that ended with terrible tragedy. >> is it unfair to draw a line to president trump? do you think it's accurate? >> it may be premature. here is what i will say. we know for a fact that extremists of all sorts, they gather support, they become emboldened, they become more committed to their radical plans by exchanging views with like minded people. years ago, 25 years ago, when it was tough for these lone -- so-called lone wolf actors to build a community around their violent philosophies, today it's very easy because of places on the internet with extremists can gather. not just trade techniques and tactics but encourage each other to act. we know extremists take a lot

away from that interaction. it's not unreasonable to assume that when people in leadership positions in this country, political positions to include the president himself, when they use words and repeat terms and ideologies and refer to folks who are involved in this sort of activity as quote unquote very fine people, it's not unreasonable to assume that extremists are hearing those messages, are hearing that sort of validation from the president himself and becoming further emboldened in their plans. >> if this was international terrorism, an actor coming from overseas or a home grown jih jihadist with a link to a foreign group, would the fbi have more tools than they have for domestic terrorists? is there something that needs to change in that realm? >> absolutely. if this were a matter of

international terrorism, the fbi would have the full tool kit of classified and sensitive techniques that we use for international terrorism matters. particular things you can do to analyze communication and build out a network around each subject to understand the folks they're communicating with and how they might get support and what they are doing. many of those tools and techniques are not available to subjects to investigators to investigate subjects on the domestic terrorism side. part of the reason for that is that domestic terrorism is not in and of itself an offense in this country. it's defined in the patriot act, it's not a criminal offense. we still, unbelievableunbelieva domestic terrorism federal offense in the united states. that needs to change. >> obviously, there are concerns about freedom of expression, freedom of thought, people being able to express their beliefs,

even if they are controversial. i assume that plays a role in a reluctance to move down the road of criminalizing in statutes domestic terrorism. >> it does. by definition, domestic terrorism are acts of violence that take place in the united states for the purpose of coercing a population or influencing the government. once you are having actors in the united states, those are folks who are protected by the constitution and whose speech andprotected by the first amendments. there are sensitivities not present when you think of an international terrorism subject acting on behalf a foreign power or a foreign terrorist organization. nevertheless, we could criminalize domestic terrorism based on the existing definition in the patriot act. that alone gives you the opportunity to also criminalize

supporting acts of doe memestic terrorism. we very frequently arrest people and charge them with providing support to foreign tear arroris organizations, you could do the same and investigate and obstruct and detect and arrest people who are supporting acts of doe mess tamestic terrorism. not groups or philosophies or ideologies. those are not things we investigate. but acts of doe mess tamestic t gives the fbi kind of a platform upon which to work that they currently lack. >> interesting. andrew mccabe, appreciate talking to you. the mayors of el paso and dayton talk about how they are leading their cities through these difficult days. what we are learning about the dayton killer and what may have motivated him. let's do the eyebrows first, just tease it a little. slather it all over, don't hold back.

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big city mayors see a lot. they prepare for a lot. all the preparaion, all the simulations, the drills a mayor can take part in, nothing prepares someone for a mass shooting. i spoke with the mayors of el paso and dayton. i'm sorry we are talking under these circumstances. how is your community doing at this moment? >> we're going to survive. we will persevere. this will not define us. we have a history that goes back 350 years. we have weathered other storms. we are a unique community. >> do you see this as a strike at that bilingual, binational

community. >> if you read his treatise or whatever you want to call it and the fact that the federal government has said they're going to consider this a hate crime and we're going to do capital murder in the state of texas, which will allow the death penalty, i would say it probably falls under those guidelines. pure evil, any way you cut it. it's pure evil. >> the thing about el paso is, it's a cross border city. it's a very safe city. it's a great city. it's a safe city. when you heard this happened -- it's obviously something as a mayor you thought about, you planned for, the police force planned for. but it's -- when it happens, what initially goes through your mind? what do you initially do? >> anderson, i have never been -- i never had to deal with something like this.

yes, our police force plans for shooters of this type. but i gotta tell you, as mayor, i didn't plan for this person to come in from out of town -- i'm convinced it never would have occurred with someone from el pa paso. to come from out of town and reap the destruction on our community with 20 deaths that he has done and we have 26 people still in the hospital. i'm just -- i'm not prepared. we're going to go forward. this will, as i said, not define us. we have -- this community -- you are right, we are one of the say theest safest cities in the nation. we continue to be. we're not going into hiding. >> i appreciate your time tonight. i'm so sorry for what you and everybody in that city and so many families are going through right now.

thank you. >> you heard about donna johnson talk about the fnephew she lost in dayton. her grief is shared. even big cities become extended families. we saw in pittsburgh after the tree of life killings. we see in el paso and dayton. the mayor of dayton is seeing it. what's the latest information you have on those wounded and are in the hospital tonight? do you know how they're doing? >> we know that we have had 27 people that were injured and 15 have been released from the hospital. 12 are still in the hospital. so we don't have an updated status for them. >> in mass shootings like this, time obviously is the most critical factor. most people are killed in the

first six minutes. that's why law enforcement response time is so important according to the fbi. dayton law enforcement, they responded to the shooter -- is it accurate to say they responded within a minute or so? >> right. they had the shooter apprehended in 24 seconds. i want you to imagine in 24 seconds the gun that the shooter had killed nine people and injured 26. the police department was on site. you can see from the video that we released at 4:00, police officers running towards the shooter. the bravery of the dayton police officers to take on a man with a gun that -- i don't know really why we have the need of them in our community and country. it was souped up to make it shoot as quickly as possible and run toward that to stop that

carnage is pretty amazing. if the shooter would have been able to get into the building that he was attempting to, anderson, we would have had hundreds of people die. it's only for the bravery and the luck of having the police in the oregon district and that 24 seconds that we did not see that. >> to reiterate what you said, it's extraordinary what damage this person was able to do, what slaughter this person was able to commit in 24 seconds. >> correct. i'm sure -- i've heard from victims, people that were there. it felt like minutes. but when you watch the time, it was 24 seconds. >> there's a lot of people in this area on a weekend night. not only had he been inside, but even if he had had more time outside, i understand there's a lot of people kind of just going to different bars in the area. >> yes. this happened around 1:05 to 1:06 in the morning.

this is probably one of the busier times on the streets. it was a great night last night in dayton. this area is brick street with tons of local businesses. it's one of the places to be in our region. certainly, a centerpiece of our community. it was named by the american planning association two years's as the best business street bidding in the country. very walkable, very connected. a place that's very diverse and everyone feels safe and wants to be there. in a very safe place for our community overall. to see this and have this happen to the community last night is truly a tragedy for the families, the people injured, but our entire community. >> it dayton, so many people know one another or are a close circle of friends. it must feel like so many people know somebody who was involved in one way or the other. >> correct.

we're a big little city here. the connectivity, the grit, the resilience is amazing. there's stories of how people who were neighbors, they knew folks. it was a connected city. >> mayor, i appreciate it. thank you. i'm so sorry for your loss. >> thank you, anderson. more on both shootings ahead, including president trump's reaction. what he says he has in mind going forward. family, starting with unlimited data. use as much as you want, when you want. and if you like netflix, it's included on us. plus no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees are included. and now for a limited time, with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. that's right, only $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back?

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this afternoon, president trump told reporters his administration has done actually a lot when it comes to mass shootings. he added, perhaps more has to be done. the president's back at the white house from a within at ee his new jersey golf club. what's the response from the white house this weekend? >> reporter: the president had been tweeting throughout the weekend. we had not seen the president on camera until he was leaving his golf club in new jersey today. when he spoke to reporters for three minutes before getting on air force one where he praised law enforcement. he says hate has no place in this country. up with phrase the president didn't use was white nationalism or white supremacy even though federal authorities are investigating the shooting in el paso as domestic terrorism. the president said his administration, he says, he has done more than any other

administration when it comes to gun violence. he didn't detail what is to be done. we have heard that the president and his aides and justice department officials feel some sense of urgency to make some kind of proposals, present some kind of proposals when he addresses the nation tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning. >> it's undeniable the president has been accused, by democrats, of emboldening racism. has president trump -- has he addressed that at all? you said he didn't use those terms. >> he didn't answer questions when directly asked about white nationalism, either getting on air force one or back here at the white house when we were waiting for him on the south lawn. just going straight inside the white house. aides are downplaying, dismissing the fact there's any tie between what happened in el paso and what the president has said, even though you are seeing democratic candidates, like you said, come out and tie the president's rhetoric to it. with beto o'rourke saying he believes the president is a

white nationalist and what he says does contribute to things like the shooting at the walmart in el paso. of course, there are going to be questions and a lot of scrutiny on the president's part statements and what he said about invasions of immigrants. of course, looking at this manifesto from the shooter in el paso. there's a lot of similar language. there are questions going forward as the investigations move forward. what is the president himself saying when he is addressing the nation tomorrow morning? >> he did seem to mention mental illness as something he seemed to focus on in the el paso shooter. >> yeah. he mentioned it several times as he was speaking with reporters. he believed these were mental health issues. that echos what mulvaney said. that's something they are focusing on here at white house. the question is, what does the president do about addressing gun violence? does he favor restrictive gun

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there's a lot we know and we do not know about the shooter in the dayton killings. drew give friffin is there for tonight. you interviewed students who went to high school with this shooter. talk about what they had to say. >> reporter: we can tell you as a high school student, the shooter here had threatened a kill list to several students in his high school class, classmates. at least four students who say they were told by school officials at the time that they were on these lists, anderson, describe it as a kill list for boys, a rape list for girls, girls who turned down his advances were faced with threatening language. one man said -- told us he was

on a school bus -- he rode the school bus with the shooter and said during his sophomore year, he was on the bus when police boarded the bus, came down the hall of the bus and took the shooter off, arresting him. he disappeared for about a year. eventually did come back to school. it was during that time when this talk about the kill lists came forward. students described him as being very threatening. at one point one girl said he liked to pi e ed to point his f people and pretend to shoot them. this is when he was in his sophomore year. he did graduate in 2013. >> you said he came back a changed guy. in what way? >> reporter: according to the students, he came back and seemed to be changed. he was active in the band. he played the baritone. he was in several school plays. i looked at his yearbook. he was prominently featured in

role playing in acting. although he did like to listen to very strong, heavy metal music, he didn't seem to be bothering anybody. school officials told us that he did graduate. because it was six years ago, they did not have any records to share with us concerning this hit list or kill list. he did appear to be a changed person after he was taken out of school his sophomore year. >> after that incident in high school with the police and his arrest, was he on law enforcement's radar? >> reporter: you know, as far as we know at this point, no. the dayton police chief in his news conference says he was not on their radar certainly. we will, of course, be doing more digging to see what kind of police interaction they had maybe during his high school years, if there was more on this record in high school that he might have been having propensity to violence. a lot more records that we need to check. i think also quite frankly, a

lot more records that investigators need to check to determine exactly what kind of track record did this shooter have all along, which -- let's face it. it may have been some kind of a warning like we have seen in so many other cases. >> drew griffin, thanks very much. i want to get perspective from three law enforcement experts. james goglian, charles ramsey and also with us, phil mudd. two mass shootings, james, in this short period of time. what stands out to you with it being investigated as domestic terrorists? >> look at it within the last years. during that period of time, 799 people killed. last year, 27 different events across 16 states, 85 killed.

we had this sloaughter this weekend. one thing the fbi looks at, it looked at different pre-incident indicators. was there anything that we missed? in the parkland shooting, we missed an actionable lead that got called in. was there any indication, something jump out? here is the makeup of all these active shooters. the fbi looked at 160 incidents between 2000 and 2013. 63% are white. 93% are male. average age, 37.8 years old. youngest at 12. oldest at 88. most of them, no criminal record. lastly, weapons they used. most of them were purchased legally. >> phil, it seems like a lot of these shooters -- people say, somebody snapped.

mental health may be involved with some or many of these people. it doesn't seem -- it seems like when you look into the planning that went into some of these, there actually was a fair amount of planning, whether it was getting the weapons, coming up with a plan, writing a manife o manifesto, reading about other shooters. >> i think that raises questions about what happens tomorrow and what kind of dialogue the president initiates. there's some questions you could ask beyond tragedy and beyond offering our thoughts to the people who are -- the families of those lost. there are practical questions you have to ask. if there are these indicators in advance, and james was talking about these, are there red flag questions we need to ask about when you take a weapon from a person and can the president offer cover to police agencies across the country about when they decide that someone, even if they haven't broken a law, can't have a weapon?

let me give you a second question. if people are searching manifestos and communicating overseas, domestic terrorists not connected to an international terrorist organization, what kind of cover do you give to silicon valley and the fbi to welcome at people involved in domestic terrorism? there are questions that would be helpful to law enforcement. >> that'sone of the things that andrew mccabe was saying the fbi doesn't have the same tools to investigate doe memestic terror than international. >> let me make this basic. there are organizations that represent police across america. let me cut to the chase. here is the question i would ask them. you have tools on international terrorists. search warrants. what kind of tools do you not have with domestic terrorists? why can't we have the same kinds

of search war rabbrants for the that we have for isis? >> chief ramsey, in dayton shooting, the shooter was killed at scene. i'm wondering just in terms of police response time -- the mayor said it was like 24 seconds. it's obviously in a popular area, police were on the scene. it's incredible how many people he was able to kill and wound in that short amount of time. as far as response time, that's about as good as you can possibly get. >> yeah. i don't see how it could be any better unless you came upon it yourself on view. as we call it. that was in an entertainment district. a lot of cities have these areas. on a saturday night, friday night, it's very common to have extra patrol units down there, particularly when it gets near time for the bars to close. because you have crowds.

you have in some cases intoxicated people. you have issues that come up. fortunately, they were deployed in that area. when they saw and heard the shots and saw the shooter, they were able to react immediately. my hats off to the dayton police department, not only with how they responded to the shooting, but the transparency the chief showed at his press conference. there was a lot of things he couldn't say, obviously. but that's the first time i have seen a press conference this close after an officer-involved shooting where he is showing videotapes, giving the names of the police officers, laying out the time line. earlier they identified the victims. i don't know how they could have done that any better. i think they set a new standard when it comes to handling these kinds of incidents. >> we will take a quick break. we will continue this discussion whether we come back. nther we c. . . . .

we're talking tonight about a phenomenon none that is no longer a rarity in in country but a defining characteristic of this country something touching nearly every community in red states and blue states and big cities and small towns. james galliano, james ramsey and phil mudd. the fact that the fbi is talking about this as domestic terrorism in el paso, does that change the way the investigation is handled? >> great question. there's two ways of looking at this, jttf. >> joint terrorism task force. >> then the civil rights division will look at this concurrently as a hate crime. now, fbi director wray has recently testified. we have about 5,000 open fbi terrorism cases. 4,000 are international

terrorism. about 900 are domestic terrorism. what do we mean by domestic terrorism? one, racially motivated, two anti-authority is, anti-government, three animal rights or environmentalists and four anti-abortion. this looks like homegrown violent extremism, white supremacy. in the april the director testified in front of congress and these were the two words he used, persistent and pervasive regarding the threat. people suggest maybe this is just anecdotal. but this is a persistent and pervasive threat and the fbi is taking it seriously. >> and drew mccabe was saying when christopher wray testified that andrew mccabe was saying the numbers that chris wray was talking about is a big jump from what it was in the past. >> it's not just the numbers. i served with and drew 15 years ago. it's how we have to look at the evolution of this which in some

ways is an opportunity for the fbi. this is not just this individual will look like he's operating in isolation. it's not just whether the individual operates in isolation. it's whether he people are talking online, whether his manifesto includes language from other manifestos he researched. i guarantee you are are people overseas looking at tactics to determine whether they want to attack in the same manner. the fbi has an opportunity to look at this and see are there online activities including informal networks that we can study over time to determine whether we can follow and find people who will do this in the future. this is getting more international, anderson. that's one of the pictures here. >> charles, what do you make of you know, the idea of empowering the fbi to investigate domestic terrorism in the same way they can international terrorism? the counter to that is freedom of speech and thought and you know, it could be a slippery

slope of law enforcement looking into groups based on their ideas. >> but it can be a slippery slope. we need the right people in the room to work this through so when they do pass a la, it has safeguards to avoid any kind of abuse. i want to add one other thing. l. they've had three horrific incidents in the past week actually beginning in california, texas and now ohio. but let's not lose sight of the fact that the problem of gun violence in had country goes way beyond just the mass shootings. we lose more people every day in this country to gun violence than we lost during these three episodes. chicago, for an example, from friday to saturday to sunday morning, three dead, 37 wounded. i mean, it's ridiculous. and that's just one city. so those lives matter, too. i'm not trying to minimize the tragedy there at all.

when we take this on, we've got look at it more than looking at mass shootings and domestic terrorism. we have a serious problem on our hands. i think it's a national emergency. hopefully the president recognizes that because he needs to do something about it. >> should point out a lot of deaths from guns related to suicide, as well which often doesn't get talked about. >> james, charles, phil, thanks very much. when we come back, the only names who matter in all of this. the ones who were taken. remembering them where the focus should be tonight. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks,

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before we go, i want to express sympathy to all those in dayton and el paso tonight and certainly in the days and weeks and months ahead. the el paso police are still in the process of notifying all the families of the 209s people killed at the walmart and won't officially identify any of them till that is done. we know some names tonight so we remember, jordan, andre and shando both shot saturday as they shopped for school supplies. jordan used her body to protect her 2-month-old son paul. he survived. we remember six mexican nationals who died. 12 others were killed in el paso. we remember them as we wait for authorities to announce their names. tonight we remember the nine victims in dayton who ranged in age from 22 to 87, lois exles

by, megan betts, sayid salee, derek fudge, logan turner, nick cas coomer, thomas mcnichols, deet warren curtis, monica brick house. don lemon and cnn tonight starts now. >> this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. it's happened again. when will this madness stop? two cities grieving, a nation mourning. 29 people murdered in mass shootings. a gunman opened fire at a shopping center in el paso killing 20 people injuring two dozen more. authorities slething a racist anti-immigrant manifesto they believe was posted by the shooter just before the massacre. it is filled with white supremacist language and racist hatred. aimed at immigrants and la

inknows and the writer blames immigrants and first generation americans for taking away jobs. federal authorities calling the shooting domestic terrorism. >> we are also treating this as a domestic terrorist case. there's a separate to youtory definition of domestic terrorism. this meets it. it appears to be designed to intimidate a civilian population to say the least. we are treating it as a domestic terrorism case. and we're going to do what we do to terrorists in this country which is deliver swift and certain justice. >> 13 hours later, in dayton ohio, in a popular night life district, a gunman wearing a mask and body armor opens fire killing nine people. including his own sister. >> oh [ bleep ]

>> dude, what the [ bleep ]? what the [ bleep ]? police still searching for a motive but in an initial search of this family's home, they found writings that show he had an interest in killing people. that is not normal. he acted out on those feelings and nine people are dead because of him. this is what the president said. this is how he reacted to the mass shootings. >> i want to extend our condolences to the people of el

paso, texas and dayton, ohio, they're incredible people and they've been through a lot. hate has no place in our country. and we're going to take care of it. >> when are we as a nation going to stop young men like these from getting powerful fire arps? how many innocent supreme to die at schools, at churches, and synagogues, movie theaters it, shopping centers and the list goes on. nightclubs, on and on and on. and when are we going to call out white nationalism for the curse that it is on this country. we're not saying that dayton shooting, the shooting in dayton was instigated by it because the motive is not yet known and the shooter is dead. but el paso, maybe, probably. either way, we need to fight hate and white nationalism. but we're not getting very far because president trump won't acknowledge the serious threat that white nationalism poses to

the lives of everyday of americans. listen to his acting white house chief of staff. >> why has the president downplayed the threat of white nationalism? >> i don't think he has. go look at what he said yesterday. condemned this without any reservation whatsoever. i don't think that's fair to. >> can i read the president's words? back in march he was asked directly, do you see today white nationalism as a rising threat around the world. and his answer, i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that he have a very, very serious problem. he downplayed the threat of white nationalism. was he wrong to do that? >> i don't believe that's downplaying. >> asked if he's rising. > this is a small group of people and finish the sentence from the tweet. what did he say. >> he was asked directly do you see today white nationalism as rising threat around the world. his answer i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have a very, very

serious problem. >> that's exactly -- look, this is not the same as international sort of nuclear weapons. >> moments ago we heard president trump said that hate has no place in our country. but why doesn't he take his own words to heart? stop bashing immigrants. and seeming to coddle white supremacists. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. they're rapists and some i assume are good people. >> you had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. these are rough, rough people in many cases. and if they're allowed to break through our borders, only larger and bigger, we have emboldened these people. it's not going to happen. >> yes, sir, we have barb wire going up because you know what?

we're not letting these people invade our country. >> the president even joked about a suggestion of violence against immigrants at a florida rally. >> how do you stop these people? you can't. >> shoot them. >> that's only in the panhandle you can get away with that statement. >> hmm. we don't know that the president's rhetoric influenced either of the two mass shooters. but it would go a long way. if he would stop using ugly words to divide people in this country. we know these two young men were filled with some level of hate if they were willing to take innocent lives. they must have been, right? from people shopping on a saturday or enjoying a weekend night out, and we need to do something about guns. because these men young men had access to powerful weapons in each case. it was a deadly combination.

we have live coverage from the scenes of both deadly shootings. extensive coverage as a matter of fact. in-depth coverage. but first to thames where we're getting more information about the suspect accused in the mass killing at a walmart. authorities say after the massacre, he returned to his vehicle in the parking lot before surrendering. sources tell cnn the suspect is 21-year-old patrick crusius of allen, texas. his name is on a hate-filled racist manifesto which he posted just 20 minutes before he started shooting. we're also saying that his name, saying his name and showing his picture one time. just in case anyone watching has any information that would be helpful to law enforcement. we do not want to glorify the misery he has caused so many people. police are in the process of notifying the families of the victims. saying they will not release names till families are notified. cnn's sara sidner live for us in el paso, texas tonight.

i wish i could be talking to you under better circumstances. it is so heart breaking right now. police have said that there is a manifesto they think may be linked to this shooting suspect. what did it tell us about the potential motive? >> if this is indeed the el paso shooter's manifesto, it tells us he was filled with hit and ultimately fear, fear of immigration, fear of as he put it being replaced as a white person in this country. fear of black and brown people, particularly fear as he put it of an hispanic invasion. we should mention that word invasion. you just talked through this a bit. that word invasion has come into the mouths of these white nationalists and white supremacists and neo-nazis and shooting suspects, it is the same words parroting exactly what the president had called the caravans that were coming from mexico and heading towards

the border and trying to cross the border. there is no secret that that language keeps being used by different mass shooting suspects who have white nationalist ties or espouse neo-nazi mentality. we should also mention within his alleged manifesto, there's a lot of talk of jobs being lost, blames that on immigration, as well. and so this person has sort of decided that his ills are the ills of this country is to put on those who are coming here for a better live. he's not just talking about illegal immigration. he's talking about all immigration, a lot of hatred in that manifesto, don. >> thank you very much. now to dayton, ohio where a gunman opened fire on a crowd of people enjoying a night out. nine were killed. officers responded to the shooting within seconds, killing the gunman. the suspect is 24-year-old connor betts. we're only saying his name and showing his picture one time in

case anyone has information for law enforcement. sources say authors found writings linked to him that show he had an interest in killing people. cnn's drew griffin live for us in dayton. what are you learning about the shooter's past behavior issues? >> yeah, but for those writings, the motive here much less clear. the police chief says they don't have it right now. when you think of the circumstances here, he drives into the you know, nightclub district with his sister and a companion, both of whom later in the night he shoots, killing his sister, injury hag companion. it's very hard to determine what kind of motive there could be here. we started looking back into his past back into high school when he apparently had a list, a kill list as it's being described to us of classmates that he wanted to kill or harm. four students to tell us they were told at the time by school officials they were on that list

describe it, don, as a kill list for boys, a rape list for girls. girls who he apparently made advances to and had those advances rebuffed. one student told us that in sophomore year when this shooter was in his sophomore year, he was actually on the same school bus with the shooter. when police came aboard, take a listen to what happened. >> i saw him get pulled off bus after school one day and apparently had he made a kill list and i happened to be on it. i don't know why. we just got out of school and getting on the bus to get home. i just sat down, me and my sister just sitting down and he sat down i think he was behind us, and i look up and there's two police officers standing on the bus asking him to get off the bus and go with them. i was confused.

>> school resource officers. >> no, actual police officers. why did he make the list? why? what was happening in his life that made him do it? >> don, he apparently was removed from school for about a year but did nom come back to school. did graduate. participated in the band and acting. so he seemed to be a changed person when he came back. what happened between high school and now, of course, that's what the police in dayton are trying to find out. >> drew griffin, thank you. the director of the fbi ordering field offices around the country to do a new threat assessment. it's all in an effort to try to prevent more deadly mass attacks. christopher wray has named a command group in washington to oversee the effort. joining me is shimone pro copez. what is the new threat system involving? >> after the three shootings we've seen in the last week, don, the fbi director has told his staff that he wants them to

go out into the field and do another assessment, a new threat assessment to see if there are any threats that they're missing. see if there's anyone they need to keep an eye on, anything they need to be doing they're not doing to keep this country safe. we see the fbi do this cases involving international terrorism. regular stuff that we call just international terrorism, people are linked to extremist groups. they are now doing this in this case. the fbi director told field agents let's go out and look at other cases. perhaps there's something we are missing. we need to take a look at this. he stood up a command center and wants them looking for any threats that they're missing, don. >> shimone pro copez, thank you. we're still larrying about the victims of the shootings. we'll speak with the aunt and uncle of a young mother who died saving the life of her 2-month-old son.

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paso, texas is, heart breaking. one of the victims was 24-year-old jordan antando who died while shielding her 2-month-old son. she was shot and killed along with her husband andre. joining me is her aunt and uncle, liz terry and jesse. i'm so sorry for your loss both of you. thank you so much for doing this, liz, i can't even imagine how difficult this must be for your family. can you please tell us about jordan and andre? >> clearly amazing. amazing people.

amazing parents. they loved their children, did everything for their children, building a family. they just celebrated their one-year wedding anniversary july 30th. their oldest daughter skien had just turned 5 yesterday. the day that she lost her mother. they were just amazing people. light of our lives. jordan had an amazing gorgeous smile as i'm sure everyone can see now. across all news outwill hes and social media. her smile was exactly that. you could look through her eyes and just see the world and hope and her husband was amazing. a provider, a hard worker, building a house for them. just an amazing, amazing set of parents. an amazing set of human beings. >> jesse, how are you and the rest of the family holding up? how are you doing now? >> words can't describe the pain we're going through.

especially with seeing the media be an what's going on and disgust of the situation. and finding out that two of your family members are unaccounted for. three of your family members are unaccounted for. it's the worst feeling in the world. that's all i can say. >> oh. never in a million years would anyone imagine that they would be in this position. i don't know how you guys are -- can even stand up right now. it's just so horrific. listen, jordan died shielding her 2-month-old son from gunfire in the walmart. she saved his life. do you think what she did was heroic? >> absolutely. i think what both of them did. we didn't know and didn't have much of the details as you know. andre was just confirmed.

a couple of hours ago when they starred removing the bodies from walmart. our understanding is he shielded his wife and his child and her as a mother heroic as parents. just the ultimate sacrifice that a parent would pay with their life. and i mean, it's not supposed to happen like that. >> i'm sorry. >> there's no need to apologize. what do you want to say? liz, say whatever you want to say. >> i just want to say that it's my brother and his wife they lost their oldest child. we lost a niece. >> andre's parents lost a son. >> andre's parents, babies lost their parents. we're devastated. there's a face to all this. never in a million years as we know other families like the ones in ohio yesterday and the

myriad before those. but you never imagine when you're watching social media and you're sounding off on your thoughts and your emotions that your family would be a poster board that your niece would be a poster board for such a senseless horrific crime. and it's just painful. to see my brother and his wife and his dogs lead -- and ashleigh lose their sisteri the light of our lives. i can't even imagine. we've been watching families coming in and out of the hospital. but you can see the pain in everybody's eyes, the prayers, the community and so i want to say you never ever think that you will be a poster board for such a tragedy. as a family and especially them. >> what do you want to say, jesse? >> i hope love can be shown to the children that were left

behind not only by our families but the rest of the people in this world. and that love can be shown to other vips, other families and to never take for granted the people that are close to you. to take every moment to tell them how much you care about them. >> we understand that the baby paul was released from the hospital. how is he doing? >> thankfully, he's doing well. he suffered some bruiseds and a couple broken fingers and ultimately, the loss of his parents. his health seems to be okay. >> children are resilient. >> physically and we hope to help fill a void in his life that he's going to have later on. >> children are resilient. he's showing every sign of it as are victoria and skien both. >> i was going to ask you, jordan has two other children. tell us about them.

do they understand what happened? >> skien is asking for her mama. she turned 5 yesterday, the date of the tragedy. she's. >> she's asking for her father first for andre and for jordan. in her little mind trying to register, she's seen is the family come in and out. we're trying to hold the strongest faces that we can, hold ourselves together. victoria is with her grandparents. so we haven't had a chance to see her but from what we understand she is -- she's 2. they're resilient. we will remind them of their parents. >> but no, no direct questions yet. i'm sure we'll be facing those as the days approach and we try to find the words. obviously they were at walmart school supply shopping. and those questions i'm sure will be arising very soon. >> yeah. >> listen, you two are very

strong and we appreciate you coming on and honoring your loved ones by telling us their story. and what kind of great people they were and are. and so we appreciate you. america is standing with you right now. and our hears are breaking but we can't imagine what you're dealing with. i just again thank you and we hold you up in our thoughts and just thank you. you guys be strong, okay? >> i do want to say, i do want to send our condolences to victims in ohio, as well that we know are going through there. a huge thank you to the el paso community to the first responders, to our christian brothers and sisters to, people that have just stepped up around the community to offer support. we can never say thank you enough. we felt every bit of it's what gives us the strength to stand here today and tell this story. >> liz, jesse, thank you. >> thank you, don.

>> thank you. >> we'll be right back.

>> we're continuing to follow breaking news out of el paso, texas and dayton, ohio, where 29 people were killed in two separate mass shootings. joining me is presidential candidate and democratic senator from massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. thank you again for joining us.

i appreciate that. again here we are talking about the horror of mass shoot in two american cities reeling tonight. there's a sense of shock in this country. more than two dozen people are dead. i know you have a lot of thoughts to share. >> i do. think about the sorrow that's just mounting in this country. every one of those people who died is somebody's sister, somebody's brother, somebody's child. somebody's parent. our friends, our neighbors. and all the people who were wounded. and there's just -- it is happening over and over. it's not just the mass shootings. we talk about the mass shootings. they get the big headlines. we do the special news around them but it's happening every single day. it happens in neighborhoods, it happens on sidewalks. it happens on playgrounds. it happens in back yards that our children are at risk. it happens in communities of color and it doesn't get headlines. but our children are die. our friends are dying

our families are die. and americans want to see real change. >> yeah. >> that overwhelming majority of americans want to see sensible gun legislation. including gun owners. so why doesn't it happen? it doesn't happen because the gun manufacturers through the nra are calling all the shots in washington. this is one more example of the wealthy and the well connected those who can hire earps of lobbyists and lawyers, they get what they want and nothing, would for anyone else. this is why i'm running for president to fight back against this kind of corruption and to make this government work. not just for those who have money and connections. make it work for everyone and keep our kids safe. >> senator, i'm going to talk to you more in a little bit about an what lawmakers should be doing. i want to play this for you. this is the president's statements earlier as he was

leaving his golf club in new jersey to return to washington. watch this. >> hate has no place in our country. and we're going to take care of it. i spoke with attorney general bill barr at length. i spoke to christopher wray, director of the fbi. spoke to the governors, both governors and we're doing a lot of work. it's really not talked about very much. but we've done actually a lot. but perhaps more has to be done. but this is also a mental illness problem. if you look at both of these cases, this is mental iness. these are really people that are very, very seriously mentally ill. so a lot of things are happening. >> what's your reaction, senator? >> donald trump says hate has mo place in this country. donald trump has created plenty you have space for hate. he is a racist. he has made one racist remark after another. he has put in place racist

policies. and we've seen the consequences of it. hate crimes are up around this country. and people who are hateful feel like they are now in empowered. they are protected. they celebrate this president. this has turned america in a terrible direction and donald trump keeps it going and let's be clear. a republican congress, republican leadership in washington, they got nothing to say about it. and that means they just help strengthen it. they help it keep moving right along. >> you mentioned. >> it's time to fight back against this. >> given what you said where he said hate has no place in our country and you talked about what you said, your words that he's racist. given the rise in these types of crimes like the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh, christchurch in new zealand, does the president need to be more forceful about condemning white supremacy in particular, senator? >> yes, white supremacy is a

domestic terrorism threat in the same way that foreign terrorism threatens our people. and it is the responsibility of the president of the united states to help fight back against that. not to wink and nod and smile at it and let it get stronger in this country. >> so you and i spoke about this. less than a week ago at the debate. i want to play that is exchange and then we'll talk about it. >> senator war len ren, i'm coming to you now. last week the fbi director christopher wray said that the majority of domestic terrorism cases this year have been motivated by white supremacy. the alleged shooter in gilroy, california,renced a well-known white supremacist book on social media. >> we need to call out white supremacy for what it is, domestic terrorism. it poses a threat to the united states of america. we live in a country now where the president is advancing vice

presidential racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism, health care racism. the way we do better is to fight back and show something better. >> has the country been too slow to recognize what a major security threat this is? >> well, i think there are many in the country who recognize it but we have an administration that's pulling in exactly the opposite direction. donald trump wants to deny it and his justice department is way too slow in responding to this. and that does not make us safer as we've just seen in el paso. >> senator, he want you to please stay with me. we've got much more with senator elizabeth warren right after this.

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more details emerging after two mass shootings within 13 hours in e pass so, texas and dayton, ohio. back with me now senator elizabeth warren. senator, this is the third mass shooting in a week. you know, the house has passed sweeping gun control bills, sweeping gun control bill with bipartisan support in february which would require universal background collection. why hasn't majority leader mcconnell moved it forward. >> because majority leader mcconnell is not working for the american people. he's working for the nra and the gun manufacturers. the gun manufacturers don't want

to see any legislation passed because it will bite into their bottom line. this is just one more example of the corruption in washington. a washington that, would great for drug manufacturers, for gun manufacturers, for giant oil companies. but just doesn't work for anyone else. this is a real crisis in our democracy. people want to see change but right now, mitch mcconnell, the republicans, they're mot going to let it happen. >> let's talk more about the nra. we've seen grassroots movements the parkland teens, parents from sandy hook trying to break the stranglehold the nra has over congress. why aren't all these deaths more powerful than the nra? >>. >> well, i had i it's partly about leadership in washington. right now, we certainly don't have a president on the side of gun safety and trying to keep our people safe. we have a president that's pulling in exactly the opposite

direction. he's made it clear that he's right there in league with the nra and be clear, this is not just nra and their members. this is nraa as financed by the gun manufacturers. this is ultimately about money, people who make money from selling all of those guns. that's what it is that we have to focus on. but it doesn't mean we can't make change. look, here's how i see it. when i get elected i'm going to do two things that i think are really important. the first one is i'll do by executive action everything that can be done. that means we can strengthen background checks for example. there's a lot that we can dop we can strengthen atf. we can make changes. the boyfriend loophole. we can close it up. i'll do all those things i can do by myself. but i will also lead from the white house. and here's the thing, there are so many groups now that are getting more organized. the ones you mentioned also,

mothers of the movement, moms demand action. the kids march for our lives. all of the groups that push from the other direction. and i will call to get rid of the filibuster on day one. when mitch mcconnell tries to block action, we should be able to do this with a simple majority vote to get what the american people want us to do. you know, you have to remember six years ago, the united states senate voted by 54 to 46 to increase background checks and put some other sensible gun safety legislation in place. it was bipartisan. democrats and republicans, the vote was 54-46. but because of the filibuster, it failed. we simply can't do that any more. so for me, this is about making structural change. the kind of change that will let

us get through the gun legislation that we heed to keep our children safe. >> can we talk about other forms because. >> sure. >> there's been lots of talk what about online. how do you deal with that. these other forms like 8chan where all the white supremacy stuff is circ indicate lating. the shooter posted a four-page man test foe minutes before the attack. tonight "the new york times" is reporting the founder of 8chan is calling for the site to be shut down. should the sites be shut down, senator? >> this is one where i'm very nervous about government intervention in this area. and yet, we have to be thinking about public safety here. i and worried. i'm worried about all the sites. i'm worried about how it is that people who may be racist themselves, may be hateful themselves link up with others and strengthen it and build

something until someone goes out and kills someone or kills a lot of people. but part of this, look, this is a hard problem we've got to wrestle with. but let's remember these deadly shootings would not be deadly shootings if people did not have access to the deadly guns that they do. this is a piece of the problem that we can deal with head-on. it won't solve it entirely. but it's a part that can keep us safer and keep our children safer. so we know what we need to do on gun legislation. we know what a president should do by herself. i want to be president and do those things. that will at least help move us in the right direction. and then the other part of this is it needs to be a president who talks about the value of every person. not a president who tries to tear families apart. not a president who says ugly things about immigrants, ugly things about muslims, ugly

things about people who don't look like you, who don't sound like you. this is a president right now, trump, who has an overall message. and that is if there's something wrong in your life, if you're struggling with your job and you don't have enough money and you feel stressed, blame them. blame people who are different from you in any way. a different race, a different religion. they were born somewhere else. blame them. and then he hopes that means he's going to stay in power and the rich and the powerful just can keep picking your pocket. i think what 2020 is all about is saying we don't want a government anymore that just, would for that thin slice at the top. we want a democracy that really, would for all of us. and it recognizes the value of all of us and invests in all of us. that's how we're going to build the america of our best values. >> senator elizabeth warren. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and we need to report to you

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tonight senator chuck schumer is calling on mitch mcconnell to bring the senate backing from recess for an emergency session. to take action on gun safety and to address gun violence. let's discuss now. john kasich is here. a former governor of ohio. thank you so much for doing this. i want to start with some of the new details we're learning about the shooting in your state. the shooter wore a mask, a bulletproof vest, ear protection. police were able to neutralize him within 30 second of him firing his first shot and yet in that very short time, john, nine people are still dead, 27 others are injured. what does that tell you? >> well, it tells you about the power of these weapons and don, i saw an interview. i believe it was on your show earlier, young people were interviewed knew this guy and he had a list of people that he wanted to kill. apparently little that i understand here, he was kind of suspended from school. but this brings up an issue.

>> that was back in high school, by the way. >> okay. the red flag law where and this is a law that says if you know of somebody who poses a threat to themselves, their family or others and you can take this to a court and a judge rules that they are not stable, you take their guns away until they're stabilized. i fought for that since the las vegas shooting. i couldn't pass it through either house. i couldn't pass it through committee. that's a simple law. i bet if you took a poll in this country, 80% of the people would support that. it's very reasonable. it would say if we see people with a history of real problems, they shouldn't have guns until they are stabilized. and i couldn't pass that. how about background checks? how about comprehensive background checks? you want to buy a gun except for family or gifts or things like that, do a complete background check.

why not? i'll tell you why not. because the politicians are afraid -- and everybody wants to blame the nra. the nra's got power. but do you know where the power really is? it's in the handful of very intense people who are gun owners in each and every one of these districts. the nra is powerful, no question about this. but what people miss about this is it's the people that live locally. and look, most of these gun owners, most of them, the overwhelming majority of them support reasonable legislation. and all that has to happen is these folks need to step up to people who are completely unreasonable and get something done. >> so, when people try to get something done and the nra intervenes and the senators who get money from the nra and congressmen who get money from the nra who are mostly republicans, why don't they stand up and say something. i know you said there are people in districts who own guns -- >> first of all, let's call it

the way it is. the democrats are not all on board with this either. i heard elizabeth warren and other people, but i can tell you that in my legislature there were a few, a few really strong people, cecil thomas, a state senator. but there were some of them that wouldn't stand on the senate floor and offer amendment on the red flag law. >> so, you think democrats in the senate aren't fighting for sensible gun legislation? >> i don't know, but i can tell you what happened in my state. this is not a republican or a democrat. it's not that at all. i'm just saying that if you focus on just one party, it's not good enough. and frankly, the politicians -- >> i've got to disagree with you. let me tell you why. it doesn't matter which party it is. whether it's the republican party or the democratic party. if that party is not in line with, as you say, with most

americans want, then that party should be called out. and let's be honest, that party, considering what most -- let me finish -- considering what americans really want, that party that needs to be called out right now is the party that is in control which is the president's party, which is your former party. i'm not sure if you're still a republican. those are the people who are fighting against sensitive gun legislation or even considering the possibility of. >> don, i -- yeah. i -- look, i called out my party. my party had the house and the senate in ohio. i attacked them all the time about this and criticized them significantly. i'm just saying it's not that sumpal. do you know what the real problem is? i'm going to tell you two things. one is if i had been able to get 10,000 people out of the state of ohio, 11 million to show up on the state house grounds, we would have gotten the red flag law through and some of these other pieces of legislation. >> yeah. >> the problem is those who favor the gun control are not as active as those who will always

and vociferously voice their objection. but if you look at the places where things have changed like in florida, those tremendous, courageous parkland students -- by the way, some of whom have been unbelievably criticized for what they did in florida. that legislature had no more interest and that governor had no more interest in reasonable gun control legislation than they thought about flying to the moon. but guess what, the parkland students turned all of florida against them, and they finally pass whad a lot of those students wanted. that's what has to happen across this country. it has to come from the bottom up. and people need to say i'm going to hold you accountable. i don't care whether you're republican, whether you're democrat, whether you come from mars, we're going to hold you accountable because this red flag law is the most reasonable and common sense and the legislature and the governor in this state, they're all republicans, should pass this. they've studied this long

enough. now is the time to act. will they do it? i don't know. i hope so. >> okay, so listen, we talk about the red flag law. you talk about sensible gun laws. i don't know -- i don't know what's sensible anymore when you have these outrages you things that seem to be happening in larger numbers. you've got the background checks. >> it's unbelievable. >> you've got the bump stocks. you've got mental health. there's something to do on all of that. but do you know what the one common denominator in all of this? whether someone is mentally fit or mentally unfit is that they have access to these very powerful weapons that most countries people don't have access to those weapons and they don't have the number of shootings. if someone who is mentally unstable had access to a knife or access to something else, i'm sure people would be killed. but not in rapid succession where nine people can be killed within a matter of 30 seconds. something has to be done about

that. and the one common denominator among all of it whether you want to deal with mental health or whatever is the guns, governor. that's the one common denominator. >> hey, don, the red flag law takes the gun away. the background check hopefully will keep it out of the hands who shouldn't have it. we have local officials who never uploaded people who shouldn't be able to buy a gun to the people who sell a gun. they didn't know. they were blind in terms of these people were in there. should we have the semiautomatics? of course we shouldn't. what about the ammunition. but don, let's get something done. that will create momentum for even more. that's what we have to do. >> all right. sorry to cut you off, but i'm out of time. i'll see you next time. thank you for the conversation. we'll be right back. ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was--

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this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. shock and grief in two cities tonight as a nation grapples yet again with deadly mass shootings that have killed 29 people. a gunman opened fire at a shopping center in el paso, texas, killing 20 people, injuring two dozen more. authorities are investigating a racist antiimmigrant manifesto they believe was posted by the shooter just before the massacre. it's filled with racist hatred aimed at immigrants and latinos. he blames immigrants for taking away jobs. 13 hours later in a popular late night district a