this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. shock and grief in two cities tonight as a nation grapples yet again with deadly mass shootings that have killed 29 people. a gunman opened fire at a shopping center in el paso, texas, killing 20 people, injuring two dozen more. authorities are investigating a racist antiimmigrant manifesto they believe was posted by the shooter just before the massacre. it's filled with racist hatred aimed at immigrants and latinos. he blames immigrants for taking away jobs. 13 hours later in a popular late night district a gunman opened

firing killing nine people including his own sister. [ sound of gunfire ] >> oh [ bleep ]. [ sound of gunfire ] >> dude, what the [ bleep ]? what the [ bleep ]? [ sound of gunfire ] >> police are still looking for a motive. but an initial search of his family's home they found writings that show he had an interest in killing people. we have live coverage from both scenes of the deadly shootings. tonight federal authorities are calling the deadly mass shooting in el paso a case of domestic terrorism. ed, good evening to you. you have been on the scene all day in el paso.

what more are you learning about the victims? >> well, tonight has been a night of vigils across the city and we started hearing the first names of the victims in this shooting. one of the ones we learned about is 86-year-old angie engelsby. she was mother of the two people desperately looking for her. they went nearly 30 hours without knowing exactly what happened to her. her family tells me tonight that she is one of the victims. her body was inside the walmart. at a vigil, a powerful moment we witnessed tonight, there was the story of denny letton and his family. you probably heard of the youth soccer team that was outside the walmart holding a fund-raiser. one of the parents called her husband who was a trucker and away on work. and he called two friends and

just simply pleaded please go find my family. that was danny letton calling hs friends. those two friends raced to the scene and found those children hiding underneath a parking lot. the parents shielded the children from the bullets. all three of them are in the hospital recovering. but denny letton spoke at this vigil tonight and thanked his friends for jumping into action to find his family. >> i want to thank everybody for coming out here, for your support. this is my daughter. she was the one that was there fundraising. my wife is still in the hospital recovering. from the bottom of our hearts, thank you very much. >> reporter: don, those two friends who showed up at this parking lot told me they were repeatedly told by law enforcement to get away from the scene. they said they ignored those warnings until they could find those children. as i mentioned they found them

hiding underneath a car, and they were safe. >> ed, thank you for that. now to day ton, ohio where a gunman killed nine people earlier this morning. drew griffin is there for us. drew, no motive for the shooter in dayton, but you interviewed students who went to high school with him. what more are you learning? >> reporter: it's interesting. we know from sources they did find those writings in his home that apparently had interest or showed interest in killing people. we know that's not the first time, don. in his high school days when he was a soef mother tphomore, thes taken out of school for a time because we're learning he had a kill list or hit list. according to four students who were told they were on that list by school officials, the list was divided between men or boys on the kill list and girls who were on a rape list. one of the students actually told us he was on a school bus with the shooter sophomore year

when police came aboard that bus and detained or arrested him, took him off. he didn't see him for about a year. then he came back to school a year later, seemed to be somewhat changed. but never really found out the full story of what happened. this all we're learning about as the police continue to say they do not have a motive yet. the writings, although they did express data redundancy the current writings -- did express interest in killing people. there was no politics behind it or bias to a certain racial group behind it, so the police out wardly are telling us they remain puzzled as to why this shooting took place. >> i keep getting stuck on how many people died and were injured in such a short period of time. it was a massacre. walk our viewers through the time line for us, if you will. >> reporter: yeah. you know, this was a crowded area and apparently all these people that were shot were waiting outside a bar to get in. so, they were in a bunched group

sort of on a sidewalk. but the police walked us through it and it's amazing how quick this all took place. so, the shooter and his sister and a companion drove together to what appeared to be a night on the town, i guess, to this night club district. but sometime during the night, the sister and her companion separated from the brother. and then at 1:05 in the morning is when shots rang out. it took police 20 seconds to engage the shooter, 20 seconds, and 10 more seconds -- so, after 30 seconds, they killed the shooter. but just in that short amount of time we have 9 people dead, all these people wounded. it just shows you the repelvic inflamatory disease he had. how easy it was to kill that group of people even though he himself was killed within 30 seconds. >> drew driven in dayton. thank you so much.

the fbi offices ordering new field assessment in an attempt to prevent more deadly attacks. christopher ray has ordered more to over see the order. shimon, what are we learning about the federal government response to the spate of mass shootings. there's a new directive at the fbi. >> reporter: there is. i want to point out the fbi just pointing out a statement just moments ago from the fbi director. it says that the fbi remains concerned that u.s.-based domestic violent extremists could become inspired by these and previous high-profile attacks to engage in similar acts of violence. the fbi goes on to say that they're asking for the public's help, that if you see anything suspicious to report it. what they're doing is saying that both these incidents, the one in dayton, ohio, and obviously the one in el paso,

there is now concern that there could be copy cats, that someone could be inspired by these attacks. they're urging the public, if you see something -- as we always say, if you see something, say something. the fbi putting out that statement, don. they're working with local authorities there in dayton and el paso, and they're providing all sorts of resources, one of those being that they're providing extra agents, agents who have an understanding in dealing with domestic terrorism, hate crimes. they're using all of those resources to try and figure out exactly what happened in these incidents and see what it is that perhaps could be done to prevent something like this from happening again. >> shimon prokupecz, thank you very much. two communities grappling with the horrors of mass shootings. i want to bring in cesar blanco, a member of the state house. gentleman, thank you for joining us. i know it's a busy time for us. we appreciate you informing our

viewers. state representative blanco i want to express condolences to you and el paso. this is a neighborhood that you grew up in. i hear you had family shopping for things like school supplies and this senseless violence occurs. it is unthinkable. >> it is. it is. it's very sad. it hits home. you know, i just came back from the candlelight vigil across the street here at hunter park on the very same field where i played little league baseball. and it's tragic that we're here racism, dealing with murder. we're taking it very hard. but i will say el paso is a resilient city. at the candlelight vigil, a speaker mentioned we also have our own manifesto. it's the manifesto of compassion. it's the manifesto of love. it's the manifesto of tolerance.

and i think that's reminiscent and symbolic of what el paso means. and we are a very tight knit community. >> you were at the hospital earlier. talk to me about that. >> yeah, just a very somber situation. but the good thing is that we have some of the best health care professionals in, you know, in the state. and, you know, this is a level one trauma center that's -- that was prepared to receive the folks that have prepared. and we have a children's hospital. and there were two children, i think, they were the first two victims at the hospital received. and they were able to transfer them quickly to the children's hospital and start taking care of them right away. so, it was also uplifting to see folks coming to the hospital,

bringing food, bringing water, giving out hugs, doing things that this community is known to do. >> you see the good that comes out in people when we have these terrible tragedies. commissioner, when you hear about this alleged racist manifesto, it's filled with hatred towards immigrants, hatred towards latinos, please tell me what goes through your mind. >> yeah. it's just utter sadness. there's a lot of emotion, a lot of emotions involved. sadness, disbelief, just being upset and really not understanding why this tup of thing has to happen in this community. this guy came in dressed in racism. he started shooting people at will. and he came here to kill hispanic people from another

city. and that is the worst. this community was targeted because of who we are. it was targeted because, like it or not, the demographic here is what this country is going to be in not too long future. and, you know, it's very sad that somebody would lash out in that form and come from so far to do so. >> representative blanco, the commissioner just mentioned this. but the fact that this white supremacist shooter travelled to your community of el paso, to your border town, he's from allen, texas which is far off on the other side of the state. what do you take from that? >> well, look, make no mistake, this should not be a reflection of the people of allen, texas. i am sure that they are great people just as el paso has great people. but it really demonstrates how much hatred one individual can

carry. and really, i think the politics of today can be such as well. i think in the past we've had the politics of unity. unfortunately, a scenario like this will hopefully bring us together to work together on a variety of things versus focusing on things that separate us. a lot of things can be learned from bad experiences. and it is our hope -- in fact i know that our community here in el paso will move forward from this and be resilient. this city, even though we've been attacked because of our immigrants and latinos that live the in this community will continue to be an open community that welcomes immigrants into our community. so, my message is to all immigrants who are out there, el paso will remain safe and it will be open and welcome to you as our country has always done

throughout the history of time. >> i want to ask you, what do you want to hear, representative, from your state leaders, your governor, your senators? what do you need to hear from them? >> you know, we need to hear words of compassion. but we also need to hear words of resolve and action. for too long, innocent people have been dying and killed at the hands of gunmen not only in the state of texas but throughout the country. we have an opportunity as elected leaders in this country and in this state to be bold, to be courageous to do the right thing to make sure that these type of incidents don't happen again. we have a choice. we have an opportunity to demonstrate for the history of the united states of what we were able to accomplish right now. we can either take action or be

in the history books as an elected body that never did anything to do things to keep people safe. that's the choice that we have. we are at a cross roads. and i'm hopeful and confident that both democrats and republicans will move forward with solutions to help people. >> i hope you're right. i think -- i hope you're right. and i think most people in the country feels the same way. commissioner, the country is praying and thinking about el paso. but beyond thoughts and prayers, what else does el paso need? >> we do need the prayers. we do need the prayers. but we need more than that. we need folks like our governor, our senator john cornyn, ted cruz, our lieutenant governor, and the republican leadership in our state to take the lead of our delegation here in el paso

because folks like cesar blanco and our state senator jose rodriguez have filed legislation in the past that has gone nowhere, that aims to meet and to mitigate these types of problems. what they need to do is step up and take the lead and stop pandering to the nra, stop pandering to, you know, organizations that are against gun control. >> did you want to say something representative blanco? >> i think we have the time for politics have past. there are too many people that are grieving tonight, who have been grieving in the past. this is happening on our watch in this time in american history. we have the opportunity to be bold and do what's right. so, you know, tonight i make a

call to action to all elected officials regardless of party to join us to help end the senseless violence, to do what's right for this country, to heal the wounds of those family members that have lost loved ones and take action. do it through your faith, through your compassion. we can do this together. and i'm asking all politicians tonight to do so. >> representative blanco, commissioner stout, thank you. please take care. >> thank you, don. >> thank you. >> 29 people dead, 13 hours. in 13 hours. a lot of people are blaming mental illness. but is that really the only answer to why this keeps happening? i'm going to speak with a psychiatrist next.

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so, president trump saying today hate has no place in our country in response to the mass shootings in el paso and dayton. he also ignored a question on white nationalism and said the attacks represent a mental illness problem. so, let's discuss. steven seager is a staff sigh k kei tryst. doctor seager, thank you so much. as a psychiatrist and someone who has studied these issues,

why are these mass shootings happening? please help us here. >> i think i can. i want to say first of all to the people with mental illness, this is not due to mental illness. this is not your fault. these shootings have nothing to do with mental illness or the treatment. the president is 100% wrong. what this has to do with especially with the shooting in el paso is white nationalism and graying racism which he trumpet is. his administration does this. i live in a republican area and he says it's okay to shoot a minority congresswoman or implies that. this shooting lies in his lap. it's him, mitch mcconnell, and pence. these are the people who own this. they have sewed the seeds of hate, and they are harvesting the harvest of murder. that's what this is about. it has nothing to do with mental illness. >> i don't know if i've heard him say it was okay to shoot minority congresswomen. >> he implied that with the

five. and that's clearly the message that i hear when i go to the gym in the locker room. what he said, the message was implied that send them back and then gun shops on facebook show pictures of these women with guns -- this has to stop. people dance around this all the time. we can't tolerate assault rifles. we can't tolerate an administration that openly says being a white supremacist and being antigay and antiimmigrant is okay because it is not. >> a machine fess toe believed to be written by the el paso suspect was posted minutes before the attack. it was filled with white supremacist and racist rhetoric. how do people get drawn into these hateful beliefs? >> well, that's an interesting question. i can tell you it has nothing to do with mental illness. it may have to do with a personality style. there are certain people who are drawn to that. i can't exactly explain it because i don't deal with those people. they're not mentally ill. it has nothing to do with

treating the mentally ill. people are just susceptible to that. when you say these people are coming for your jobs, for you, for your country, that's what he said. he's defending what you told me to defend. that's the message that's coming across. i can tell you for sure that's the message that's coming across and that has to stop. >> okay then, so when these things happen, whether it's a white supremacist or a kid who's angry because possibly they've been bullied or whatever, why do people immediately, many who are opposed to even sensible gun legislation, why do they immediately go to the mental illness. this is mental illness. we need to stop mentally ill people from getting weapons? >> because that's an easy target. who defends the mentally ill? they don't vote. they're not a constituency. they're just an easy target. it's just a knee jerk response. the real response is why don't you interrupt president trump or

mitch mcconnell when they say these awful things. why don't you collect all the assault rifles. those are the tough questions we have to ask. in november, next year, we have a chance to address those issues. but right now, the call is you've got to get the assault rifles. you don't need an assault rifle to hunt deer. you don't need an assault rifle. you've got to get rid of them. once you get rid of the hatred and the assault rifles, you'll have no more mass shootings. >> did you say there seems to be a national paranoia aflicting our country. what do you mean by that? >> when you listen to the rhetoric -- and i'm a big presence on social media. the other side thinks they're being hunted down, that they're the victims of some conspiracy. they are paranoid that people are coming for them, that people with brown skin are after them. i live in california and of course that's not the case. i used to live in el paso. that's not the case. somehow they butt into this. but it's the leader of the republicans and the leaders in

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the fbi director ordering field offices around the country to be on the look out for new mass shooting threats. christopher ray's coming after shootings in el paso and dayton. good evening to all of you. brian, i hope you heard our last guest, doctor seager. president trump repeatedly used racially tense language, a favored word he likes to use when tweeting about immigration is invasion. his re-election campaign has also used invasion in ads and on facebook. he also made racist comments against people of color in congress. is the president's rhetoric

leads to an up tick in domestic terrorism? can you say that? >> no, but we can see there's a correlation at certain times when there's divisive speech, particularly around a highly charged event. i'm kind of like the criminologist who calls the balls and strikes. i can't root for the team with the data. let me give you the data. november 2016 was the worst month for hate crime going back 14 years to the first anniversary of 9/11 for instance. the day after election day -- and this is research we did with the brilliant criminologist -- sociologist rather. we found that that was the worst day going back to june 2003. so, we've also seen -- listen to this. second worse month this decade, charlottesville, august 2017. when did we see other spikes? october 2008 when barack obama was about to become the first african-american president. and let me throw two more things

at you. november 2015 when i was accused of manufacturing a hate crime epidemic by someone who wrote a book called "invasion," the fbi actually found later that that was the worst month for antimuslim hate crime going all the way back to the 9/11 period. and what we found is -- listen to this -- san bernardino terrorist attack which affected our community, hate crimes against muslims and arabs spiked 300% from the daily average for the first 11 months. december 7th, there's a roll out of the muslim ban proposal, hate crimes go up an extra 23% to be 400% higher. what i can tell you is the data indicates that at certain times, statements by leaders correlate to fluctuations. president bush, six days after 9/11 talks about tolerance at the islamic center in d.c., hate crimes drop 2/3 the next day,

2/3 the next year against muslims and arabs. >> interesting. juliet, you're shaking your head. you often talk about white nationalism and i forget what you call it, a type of terrorism. sarcastic terrorism. >> stochastic terrorism. the phenomenon we're seeing now. this correlates to the same theory. we tend to think of -- or it's wrong to think of radicalization as an on/off switch, you either are or aren't. it's also wrong to think that, you know, to say that either donald trump is to blame or not to blame for any -- >> you think it's a contributing factor, but you think it's too simplistic. go on. >> it's absolutely a contributing factor. the data shows it. but it also is because what we're seeing now is the rise of white supremacy just noted by the fbi that's becoming radicalized. it has a sense of what they call the great replacement. this is the first generation of white men in -- or the last jen

raugs of white men in america that will -- that are a majority, in other words seven years ago the census reported that nonwhite babies now outnumber white babies. this is just going to be a phenomenon of this country. most of view that as a good thing. and they are getting -- you know, they're either being flirted with or condoned from both sides from the highest levels of government including from president trump. stochastic terrorism is when a leader uses language that is more likely than not to radicalize. what someone does, maybe that leader doesn't condone, but you can't say he's not complicit at this stage. we're 36 hours later and there hasn't been strong condemnation of white supremacy yet. he can't do it because i don't think he believes it. i mean, i think that ultimately he just puts it in the lone wolf box and doesn't view himself as

culpable in what we're seeing. >> neil, i want you to weigh in on what you've heard. >> i don't disagree with anything. but i think there's one way we can tell really quick whether or not it's a correlation or not. i appreciate the statistics. how about we do an experiment. how about the president just knock it off, right? not just knock it off, but speak about unity. how about making a true effort to unite people? and be everyone's president, not just a select few? white nationalists. i'll go ahead and say it. so, how about his republican counterparts take a very strong stand and say okay, it's time for you to change your rhetoric. it's time for you to change your language. it's time for you to act presidential. and let's see what happens. if he truly does that, then we'll know for sure. >> could i just interject something real quick? >> mm-hm. >> we just came out with a

study. it's free. somebody on the internet said it's chilling for it. i don't know what he means. it just came out. in 30 of america's largest cities, hate crimes have risen in 2018 for the 5th consecutive year. what else? listen to this, don. we saw a decline in extremist homicide, particularly because of a cratering of violence jihadist homicides. but over the last few years, we saw a reshuffling where white supremacist extremist homicides went from 13 in 2017 to 17 last year and now we're already blown past that in august of this year. white supremacy is a domestic terrorism national security threat. and the people in our intelligence kmub intelligence community understands that. >> that's get us to the fbi

director christopher ray, what he said about white supremacist violence just two weeks ago. watch this. >> i will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacists. >> juliet, what is he going against his own officials and refusing to call it what it is? >> well, i mean because the numbers you just can't deny anymore. the problem in terrorism for terrorism and counterterrorism in homeland security is not islam, is not radicalized gee hah i dids, it is not immigrants as the president would have us believe. the numbers are clear that it's the white supremacist groups that are em boldened by online activity. i heard you do the lead in,

8chan, these channels that are hopefully getting off platforms that are festering this. it's something that can't be denied. it's important to note that the statement by the fbi is necessary because there are starting to be reports that the second shooter this weekend was flagging reports about the first mass shooter this weekend. in other words, we're just worried that these guys are feeding off each other. plus if they are -- >> yes, and we wrote about that in our report. >> yeah. >> neil, i've got to get you in. >> they're feeling defensive. >> neil, i have to say, listen. yes, there is -- you know, we live in a gun culture. and there are random crimes and gun violence on the streets of, you know, the united states every single day. but this particular issue of domestic terrorism is an issue that we need to address, that people are afraid to address for some reason. what do we do about it as a former police officer? as you know, like i said,

there's random crime. there's gun violence all over which we need to deal with. but this is an issue that's separate and apart from that. and we need to keep our eye on the ball with this one. >> well, one thing i think we need to do, the amount of energy that we put into islamic terrorism over the past couple of decades is what we need to do here. we've lost sight of domestic terrorism with neonazi groups and white nationalist groups. there was a time we were keeping a close watch on them. and we were distracted after 9/11. we need to get back to that and more so. put the same amount of resources if not more of energy into what we did after 9/11 with islamic terrorism. >> calls are coming from inside the house. >> amen. >> thank you. thank you all. we'll be right back.

the el paso shooting is being investigated as an act of domestic terrorism leading many to point to the president's heated rhetoric on race and how it's impacted people of color. let's discuss with my panelists. gentleman, good evening. thank you so much for joining us. derrick, let's start with you. the president tweeted his thoughts and prayer, told

reporters hate has no place in our country. let's listen to that. >> hate has no place in our country, and we're going to take care of it. i spoke with attorney general bill barr at length. i spoke to christopher ray, director of the fbi, spoke to the governors, both governors, and we're doing a lot of work. it's really not talked about very much, but we've done actually a lot, but perhaps more has to be done. but this is also a mental illness problem. if you look at both of these cases, this is mental illness. these are really people that are very, very seriously mentally ill. so, a lot of things are happening. >> so, derrick, we're in a country shaken by these massacres. is this president living up to his responsibilities to lead a nation right now? >> you know, he's lacked the moral authority to lead on this question. many countries have mental illness, but only in the united

states do we have a president that allow racial hatred and intolerance to germinate from the white house. we've had three massacres in one week. we've yet to see any tangible policy initiative or action to address the problems of gun violence in this country. we've yet to see any tangible measures or policy initiative to address the questions of racial hatred. i'm in texas and i'm looking at all the signs of intolerance. i just visited a shelter of individuals who are being treated less than human. it is all at the footstep of this president and his actions. >> he didn't mention -- derrick, he didn't mention white supremacists at all. is that a mistake? >> i mean, it's the reality of where he rests. he don't want to offend his base. his base have been, since he's taken office, the white supremacist community. he appealed to that base. he caters to that base.

he refused to denounce those individuals. and as a result of that, the ilk is all be it not mental is an illness of individuals thinking they're supreme in this country based on their whiteness when in fact we know the history of this country when we rested in white supremacy, many people are maligned, many people are targeted, and far too many people are massacred as we have seen over the last week. >> albert, in the manifesto that the el paso shooter says he posted, he targets latin-americans. the president's rhetoric has been antiimmigrant. what effect is all of this having on minority communities, on black and brown communities. >> first, don, thank you for having me on your show. hearing the president talk about mental illness is pretty rich. talk about the pot calling the kettle black. to your question, unfortunately

this isn't anything we're surprised by. ever since he announced his campaign back in june of 2015, we've seen an up tick in concern amongst latino communities, audiences in our focus groups. our polling. folks have been concerned about this since then. just a couple weeks ago when the president uttered those famous words send her back, we had just came out with a poll that said 86% of latinos feel that racism amongst latinos is a problem. that's just among registered voters. i can only imagine what it's like for the 10 or 20 million who are living in the shadows. hearing the stories of those afraid to check on loved ones for fear of being apprehended. seeing my friend cesar blanco, it finally hit home. and pretty angry is my main

state. i'm from ft. worth, not far from where this little monster was born and raised. i want to hear more about his parents, his upbringing, who -- he learned this somewhere. he's in his 20s. he didn't just pick this up off the internet. and i want to learn more. >> derrick, you tweeted earlier, you said dayton police says there's no evidence that racial bias. however six of the nine people killed were black. the president also attacked four congresswomen of color, the city of baltimore representative elijah cummings. they're people of color. do you think people of color in this country are feeling less safe today? >> well, we are definitely feeling less safe. we've seen it ever since charlottesville how this administration have handled the reality of domestic terrorism. and let's make no mistake about what's taking place.

this is domestic terrorism, the same type of terrorism that african-americans have seen throughout the civil rights movement and past the civil rights movement. it is a scenario where the federal government under this administration have not valued the lives of citizens of this country, african-americans and latinos. and they have dehumanized individuals who are seeking asylum in this country. it is not anything that we should stand idly by and say it is okay or excuse the way of saying it is these few individuals because they have mental illness. if there is any mental illness, it is coming from the white house because this president refuse to see any one who's image is different than his image. >> the fbi just issued a statement saying they are concerned about copy cat shootings. the fbi remains concerned that u.s.-based domestic violent extremists could become inspired by these and previous high profile attacks to engage in similar acts of violence.

is enough being done to protect communities of color? >> no. i mean, if they are just now getting concerned, we have a problem. we've seen this problem for a while now whether it was the result of what took place in south carolina, what took place in pittsburgh with the synagogue, in kentucky -- >> mr. johnson? >> on and on and on. the fbi is not just having a problem. we have a problem. >> i want albert morales to respond to that before we run out of time. >> yes, don. clearly not enough is being done. weeks after the president was in -- i think it was florida where someone in the audience uttered the words "shoot her" and instead of having a john mccain moment, he instead sort of winked at them and said that only in the panhandle could he get away with that. well, if you're a white supremacist and you're seeing the leader of the free world utter that endorsement, if you

well, well, of course it's going to inspire more copycats to do so, and i hope and pray that our leaders have the courage -- i know it's hard for these republicans. you know, they're scared to death of getting primaried. i work in the business of polling and research and it's all about getting re-elected one but there comes a point you have to start putting the political repercussions aside and start thinking about the biblical repercussions because they are more intense than any election night. >> thank you. i appreciate it. we'll be right back.

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at least 29 people dead. 29 people. in two mass shootings in two cities in only 13 hours. we've spoken a lot tonight about what needs to happen to make significant changes in this country, but right now we're going to take the time to honor these 29 people whose lives have been cut short. these 29 victims of senseless violence. in dayton, ohio, nine people were killed.

and in el paso, 20 people killed. families are still trying to identify their loved ones, but we do know at least two victims' stories. jordan and andre anchondo, parents of three young children, were shopping for school supplies when the gunman opened fire. jordan later died at a hospital after using her body to protect her 2-month-old son. her husband is also confirmed dead. their baby survived. we're also learning the names of some of those victims. angie gillespie, 86 years old. arturo was 56 --

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