>> hello, everyone. thank you for joining us for a second hour. my colleague, jim sciutto. hey, jim. >> hey, kate. here we are again, telling the mass shooting in america. burning question from the people here in dayton and, i'm sure, for americans watching at home. president trump has arrived here in dayton in the wake of the shooting that left nine people dead, dozens more wounded. the president has been meeting with local officials, first responders all this at a nearby miami valley hospital. many residents grieving the loss of a friend, loved one, someone they knew, someone they worked with. and many are asking their

politicians, what are they going to do now to curb gun violence. do something, that's a chant we heard here at the scene of the crime repeatedly. will their leaders do something? kaitlyn collins joins me now. your reporting is that white house officials have met with nra officials in the last couple of days. >> they've been in conversation with them, a question that a lot of people have. you saw the president come out this morning, express an openness to potentially expanding background checks, which would be a move for the president. in the past we've seen him back off of it after he sat down with nra leadership. the president has not met with nra leadership yet. we do know his top aides are having conversations with them. that's coming into question. but also whether or not they have the political power to get the president to change his mind on a stance like that. often with this president,

you've seen him in places like where he is today. he's coming here to the scene of this mass shooting, visiting with first responders, victims of the hospital right now, later going on to el paso. he tries to match his tone with where he is, meeting with victims, explaining background checks. when he's sitting down with nra leadership or republicans not open to more restrictive gun measures, what does the president say then? >> what happens next? kaitlan collins, thank you very much. as we've been here this last hour, the street has filled up. mostly protesters here. protesters of the president's visit, people demanding action. a similar scene at the hospital, miami valley hospital where the president will be meeting shortly with victims' families. the clapping you're hearing now is for firefighters that arrived here in a fire truck. listen, the community is out. they care. i want to get right now to my next guest, judy dodge, commissioner for montgomery

county, the county in dayton, of course, the county seat of. she joins me now live. commissioner dodge, i was in el paso. now i'm here in dayton, two communities that went through tragedies that no american community should go through. what is different now in these places is impatience for action. i've been hearing that in the chants here. >> yeah, a little bit. >> what are folks telling you today about what they want to happen? >> do something. do something for goodness sakes. how long does it take, how many years do we have to go through this, time and again, back from columbine, from sandy hook and now here in dayton, ohio. for gosh sakes, do something, legislators. do something. and i think when governor dewine was here at our rally sunday evening, he heard it loud and clear. >> that may have sparked him to action. >> yes, exactly. >> he went back to the state

house and came back with a list. >> exactly. >> the president is hearing that same chant. he's at the hospital meeting with victims and first responders and there are protesters there as well, chanting do something. do you have confidence in the president to do something? >> we'll see. i'm not sure. other things have happened and he doesn't respond. hopefully, hopefully, he sees the sadness that's going on here in our community. we are coping with this. we're still numb from it. we're just starting to bury the individuals that were killed. this is just an awful, awful time right now. and, hopefully, hopefully, he sees this and he will go back to washington, call the republican senators and say get back here now and do something. >> we're standing on ground. i talked to two witnesses who lost their friend in the shooting right about here. >> yeah. >> she was hit in the head. and you can feel that. can you feel that around us. if you had a moment with the president to say i, we want this

done now, what would it be? just for the context. guy walks out at a bar, high-powered weapon with 75 rounds and in 40 seconds or less, can kill nine people. what would you want to see changed first? >> put the red flags immediately, people with mental health issues and for heaven's sakes, get some background checks across the whole country. you know, we have them here, but when you go to pennsylvania maybe they don't have them. i don't know. for heaven's sakes, it's just common sense. how many lives have to be killed and how many victims and families that will never, ever get over any of this does there have to be? >> you make the point about the difference between the state and federal legislation, gilroy shooting, for instance, he bought a weapon in nevada, banned in california, drove across the border and killed people there. >> exactly. >> difference between state and federal action. >> yeah. >> tell me, if you can, about

the president's words. not just in recent days but in recent months and years he has been president, have they helped or hurt? >> oh, they've hurt beyond words. i mean, he is so divisive and so nasty. he has just got to quit the tweets, quit all that and look at all of us here and realize we don't want this. we don't want this. this is not something our children need to hear on tv. you know, stop it. just stop it. stop it. and be the president for all the people. i'm a democrat. i'm a montgomery county commissioner. i'm the commissioner for the entire region of montgomery county. and i think of everyone, not just the democrats. and so i don't talk like that. none of my colleagues do. and it's time to stop. it's time to become a kind nation again. >> i often think about that, the language that we would all counsel our children never to use, you often hear -- >> no. >> -- in the public context.

>> no. >> and you shake your head sometimes. >> yeah. >> to you, you're a democrat. this is a state that has a majority in both houses, republicans and the former governor, john kasich, told me he couldn't even get some of these things heard. and the red flag law, couldn't get it through, too. do you speak to your republican colleagues in the wake of this and say maybe this time, maybe now we can talk? >> i hope so. i've spoken off and on to some of them. because they've been here. they understand. they see it. i'm hoping when they go back and go back to work here in another week or so that they'll remember this, and do something. do something now. >> i hear you. so the republican governor as well, sitting governor of ohio, mike dewine, has come out with a list of proposals. >> yes. >> what's the top of your list? >> i think the red flag and just the common sense background checks. you know, we don't have to go crazy on this.

i'm not against someone that can own a gun if they go through the background check and you're a law-abiding citizen. i have no problem with that. i believe in the second amendment. let's just not go crazy. just go common sense, for heaven's sakes. >> common sense. i sense something of a tense moment here in the last hour where you had the anti-trump protesters, just a handful, smaller handful of trump supporters here, where they went nose to nose. of course, i've seen that before. god knows, you've seen it in our public discourse these last couple of years. how are those divisions in the community? do people talk to each other across that divide? >> i think so. i think so, yeah. our community, we've gone through so much recently. the kkk rally, downtown dayton. right after that, we had the horrible, horrible tornadoes, 13 or 14 here. and homes were demolished and everything.

it didn't matter if you were a democrat or republican. you went and you helped those people. and that's what makes our community so strong. and that is that we understand. we help each other. we may disagree. i have family members that i disagree with, yet we love each other. so, you have to get through this. we just have to get through this zbliven, commissioner dodge, we wish you and your constituents the best. i can see and feel what they've been going through here. >> i'm sure you can. >> we know that the toughest days are ahead. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> we're following president trump's visit to here in dayton, ohio. he is visiting now with victims, families of this shooting, law enforcement members at a hospital nearby. please stay with us. we'll be right back. these stories that i've heard to life. i wanted to keep digging, keep learning... this journey has just begun. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com

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dayton for el paso, texas, and there the president will be meeting with victims' families, first responders, but is also expected to be met by protests there as well. nick valencia is in el paso. what are you hearing there? >> reporter: people in this community feel that the attention on the shooting has been misplaced. a lot of the attention has focused on president trump and according to the people that i've spoken to, not on what it was, a blatant attack on latinos in this community. they say people gunned down by this alleged gunman were gunned down because of the color of their skin, because of who their parents were, because of who their kids are, just because of their last names. i think you know i've spent a lot of time here in el paso, lived here monday through friday five of the last seven weeks. president trump does often come up in talking to people locally. talking to people in this community, they feel as though his rhetoric the past two years

has been partly to blame, mischaracterizing el paso as one of the most dangerous cities in the country. it's not. in fact, it's one of the safest cities for its size. the trump administration decided to roll out family separation policies. it's the same city where migrants were held outside under a bridge by customs and border protection. yes, some people here believe that president trump has partly to blame for his rhetoric that he has used here, in singling out mexicans as rapists when he made the announcement he was running for the presidency and a lot of the conversation today is focused around his visit. no one who i've spoken to here say they want him here. no one who i've spoken to says they believe now is the time for him to come or he will heal the wounds that are still raw and very open here in this community. president trump held a rally here. it was not too long ago, in february. i want to play you what he had to say while he was here. >> 266,000 arrests of criminal aliens, including those charged

or convicted of approximately 100,000 assaults, 40,000 -- 40 -- 40,000 larcenies, 30,000 sex crimes, 25,000 burglaries, 12,000 vehicle thefts, 11 robberies, 4,000 kidnappings and 4,000 murders. murders. murders. killings. murder murders. >> reporter: in many ways el pasoans here feel that in some ways president trump is obsessed with el paso and four el pasoans feel like this coming from one person in particular was spoken into existence. they fear what kind of environment will be created when

president trump and, i'm assuming, his supporters will show up. a lot of people here, kate, are pissed off and angry he's coming here. the only thing that's keeping them from crying and breaking down is their anger. in some cases i found out even that is not enough to hold back the tears. kate? >> nick, thank you for being there. thanks for bringing us the stories and all of that. i want to bring in two more people now with close ties with el paso and strong opinions about what's happening today. stephanie valencia, and raul reyes, analyst and attorney. thank you for being here. stephanie, you were the lead by-line on a striking piece in "the washington post." i do want to read part of it for our viewers and what you said, and what nick is talking about. many will not want to hear or believe this. hispanics in this country are under attack. black and brown people in this country are under attack. immigrants in this country are

under attack and president trump is fanning the flames of hate, division and bigotry directed at all of us, immigrants and u.s. citizens alike. why did you want to speak out and in such strong terms now? >> well, thanks for having me on. i'm from right down the road from el paso, texas, small town called los cruces. i was blocks away from the mall and saturday morning we're trying to track down where our family was on saturday. my aunt was at costco, fortunately, and not at walmart but for the grace of god. i think it's important that we speak out now because what saturday really exposed was that hispanics and black and brown people in this country are under attack and donald trump is fanning the flames of hatred and bigotry. these were u.s. citizens, i'm a

tenth generation new mexican. i know that many black and brown people in this country and immigrants feel that they have the same target on their back as well. >> raul, you've written about this as well. you have family in el paso. you said something very -- you said similar things, what we're hearing from stephanie. what are you hearing from your friends, colleagues, strangers now about this? >> one of the things that is so upsetting, i think, to so many people in the latino community is that latino community leaders and different advocacy groups have been sounding the alarm about the president and his rhetoric for more than two careers. >> this is not new from this weekend. >> absolutely not. they've been saying this is dangerous, words have consequences, hate does not emerge from a vacuum. a lot of this was dismissed or ignored and now, you know, we see the horrific violence that's being visited upon el paso. it truly hits home for many --

not only people from el paso but many mexican americans. el paso was sort of -- if you want to think of it as the ellis island of the southwest. going back to the mexican revolution, so many mexican americans came through el paso. it's part of our family's origins, stories that began in this country and now to have that associated with this president's brand of racism, bigotry is truly shattering to people. i feel that it's really challenging among many latinos, ideals of what we believe this nation to be. >> stephanie, what raul said is important. he's saying words have consequences. words mean something. but i do also often hear the flip side of what is your response when you hear people say that what president trump is doing is ignore the twitter feed, look at his actions, not at his words.

what trump is doing, it's just words. >> we cannot pretend that words and actions do not have consequences. there was clear and direct linkages in the shooter's manifesto, about hispanic invasions, when you talk about muslim bans, locking kids in cages. we cannot pretend that words don't have consequences and actions don't have consequences. at the end of the day, this is a toxic combination of white supremacy and of outdated gun laws that have allowed this kind of stuff to happen. so, we have to address both, you know, challenges around updating our gun laws and also looking at the root causes of what is causing this, including the person who sits in the oval office, who has the greatest platform in the world and how he uses that bully pulpit to demonize immigrants, latinos and brown and black people in this country. >> and if the goal is to

improve, elevate the conversation, stop the demonizing, diminishing or dehumanizing of black and brown people, i wonder what you think will be the change, raul. let me read to you what the president said if his speech is contributing to a dwisive climate. he said no, my rhetoric brings people together. what do you do with that? >> we know who this president is. i don't see the president having any credibility in terms of uniting the country. >> you don't think he's part of this conversation? >> no what needs to' merge is the discussion between republican representatives.

last year when president trump was putting out all this ugly rhetoric about the threat of caravans, 54% of latinos felt uneasy and felt it was more difficult to exist as a latino in the united states. that's more than half of the largest minority in the country. when you have that many people saying they don't even feel at home in this country, that's a very potentially dangerous construct, whether you're talking in terms of civic engagement, a large population of the community feeling alienated and this was before. >> i fear what the pew center would find at this point. >> exactly. >> stephanie, democrats in the aftermath of the shooting, to many of us, democrats running for president have come out against the president harder on this issue, and i think we've seen on anything else. going right on the day of the shooting, right after the

shootings, calling donald trump a white supremacist. i want to read you what joe biden is expected -- he is giving a big speech today. this is what he is expected to say, in part. how far is it from trump's saying that it is an invasion to the shooter in el paso to declaring his attack is a response to the hispanic invasion of texas? not far at all. in both clear language and in code this president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation. is anyone talking about this problem in a way that's helpful, stephanie? >> i think it's critically important that people like joe biden, cory booker, both democrats and republicans alike use their platforms to talk about this issue, to talk about race in this country and to talk about this issue of white nationalism that exists and that they need to use their platform

to education all americans that there are certain people in this country who feel under attack and call it for what it is. and so i applaud joe biden for going directly at and calling it out. i applaud cory booker who used his platform in south carolina to do the same. as americans we have to understand and grapple the history, the long history of racism and white supremacy that has existed for centuries in our country and understand what that means, to who we want to be as a country moving forward. >> kate, to me, we're talking about these presidential candidates. to me, this so transcends politics. it's not about what democratic leaders say or how republicans weigh in. it's about our fundamental values, how we treat our fellow americans, fellow human beings. >> how you can treat someone in your community. >> that's the questions americans need to ask. this is not an illegal immigration issue. it's a question of basic human dignity and rights. >> thank you. raul, thank you so much. stephanie, thank you very much.

i really appreciate it. coming up for us, protesters met president trump in dayton today with a chant that's become a familiar refrain in dayton, ohio. do something. up next, a local lawmaker who says that the president shouldn't be in dayton at all unless he is serious about gun reform. joins us. i'm finding it hard to stay on top of things. a faster laptop could help. plus, tech support to stay worry free. worry free. boom! ha.ha. boom! now save up to $200 on all lenovo products. save up to $200 at office depot officemax or officedepot.com.

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welcome back. president trump is here in dayton, ohio, the site, right where i'm sitting of one of last week's back-to-back mass shootings in america. the president to meet with first responders, medical personnel and victims' families. we'll bring you his appearances live as they happen. brynn gingras is right in the middle of the protests we've been witnessing the past couple of hours. brynn, you've been speaking to people in that crowd. i've heard it get loud at times. i've heard a lot of frustration. tell us what they're saying to you. >> reporter: yeah, jim. the president is not even expected to drive down this street, but yet people are compelled to come out here. and the reason is because of the memorial. i'm standing right next to it. it is interesting. people are walking by but i can tell you, talking to a lot of people, this, for them, is personal. they want to respect the victims. that's why this memorial continues to grow. that's the message i've been

hearing from people, respect what happened here. that's part of the reason that many people have said to me they don't want the president here. in the background there are chants of pro-trump supporters here, also speaking their mind, wanting to let the president know that he has their support here. thank you for joining me. >> i'm no extremist. i work. i'm usually not able to come out and protest something like this. i did not feel like this is a place where trump should come for a photo-op. he is not sincere when it comes to gun control and also when it comes to dividing people and at his rallies, he's totally sincere when it comes to that.

so, his staged, you know, rhetoric -- >> you don't want him here? >> we don't want him here. >> reporter: do you think it will change after being here? >> i don't think he will change his mind but we will -- we people will keep standing up. we will keep standing up against his hateful rhetoric. >> thanks so much, lynell. not long ago a woman came by and said respect the presidency. respect the president. there is discourse that happened right in front of my face. it's going to happen for a while, jim, while the president visits here, i'm sure. but, yeah, i can tell you, it's important to many people i talk to, to respect those survivors or the victims, i'm sorry. >> brynn gingras, those who expect the president to drive down this street, that doesn't look like that will happen. city officials have been joining the chorus of those criticizing

the visit to this community, including the dayton city commissioner. he writes in an open letter to the president, and i'm quoting here, i had the privilege of being on the stage as we prayed and honored those who were killed sunday morning. you may have heard that the crowd became impatient, listening to long statements from elected officials. the crowd's message was, and is clear, do something. we do not want to hear empty words. we want action. if you are not prepared to do something real, do not waste our time. do not come to dayton, ohio. i'm joined by commissioner darryl fairfield. i can feel the sincerity in your words. you're not alone in that message. i've heard it from other politicians and just folks who live in this town. the president is here now. he has come. do you expect him to do something? >> he said he was going to do something. i'll take him at his word. i wasn't being critical of the president, just simply asking

him to make good on his word. it's been 48 hours since he said he was going to act. part of what i wanted to point out in the rest of the letter, there are things he can do. he doesn't have to wait for congress. he can take some steps with executive action. he could start to put funding toward research and development of safer guns. we have, i think, 200,000 guns that are stolen a year and maybe -- i'm not sure of the number but suicides that could be prevented with smart phone technology. to start to demonstrate that smart technology, today he could announce he's going to host that technology. >> using the executive order for other things. >> that's part of the point. he has used that power. he has power to act. it's been 48 hours. he hasn't acted yet. i was here sunday and this street was filled with people who were hurting. and when the politicians spoke too long, the chant came and i

think all of us heard it. it was "do something." it was a unified voice. right now, we're back to our divisive self but in that moment, it was unified. do something. >> governor mike dewine, the start of action, releasing some proposals. beyond what you mentioned just there, what else do you want the president, do you want congress to do now in terms of measures that could have prevented something like this? >> sewer and governor dewine, i really appreciated his words and he said, you know, the people were right. and he heard them. and congressman turner also has put out word that he would be willing to support some of the legislation that i would support. >> ban on assault-style weapons. >> yeah. >> himself included opposed vehementally. >> yes. those are three things that i think the president could speak up and have a private conversation with the senate

leadership. >> he could, but do you expect him to? do you trust him to? my colleague kaitlan collins reporting that the white house has been in contact with the nra. you can imagine what the nra's message is to a president who is facing re-election in 2020 and his base. >> i'm asking him to hear the voices on the streets of dayton. let's be clear. it's one incident but 250th around an active shooter. in addition to dayton we've got gun violence in our streets. we have guns in our homes, domestic violence issues that are often times deadly with guns. we have children who pick up guns and use them accidentally. we have suicides that are used with guns. the issue of violence with guns is one that we have to address. you know, people are impatient. that was the message sunday. people are impatient.

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and i don't blame anybody. these are sick people. it's a mental problem. >> that was president trump this morning, blaming mental illness for the mass shootings in texas and ohio. he did the same monday when he said that mental illness and anger pulls the trigger, not the gun. there's a laundry list of past shootings, like thousand oaks, california. >> these are very sick -- mental health problem. he is a very sick puppy, a very, very sick guy. >> and after parkland, florida. >> this person that did this horrible act, he was mentally deranged and everybody knew it for a long period of time. >> and after sutherland springs, texas. >> i think that mental health is your problem here.

based on preliminary reports, a very deranged individual. >> while every shooting is different and mental health may be a factor, it is an important discussion, the american psychiatric association is now pushing back on the president after this mass shooting over the weekend, putting out this statement. let me read it in part. the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of violence. rhetoric that argues otherwise will further stigmatize and interfere with people accessing needed treatment. individuals can be emboldened to act violently by the public discourse and divisive rhetoric. doctor, thank you for being here. why did you feel compelled as an association to put this statement out is this. >> thank you, kate. thank you for doing this session. both the country and the world are looking at how we're going

to get out in this situation that we seem to have ended up in around the united states. mental illness does not mean gun violence. 4% of people with mental illness do have some serious mental illness but if they're all going to be violent or violent against themselves, not against others. violence is usually perpetrated on them. that's the issue that all our leaders should be remembering when a situation like that happens. what are the other issues that cause someone to go into churches, schools, malls and start shooting up people? >> does this kind of -- when the president said that mental illness pulls the trigger, not the gun, does this simple generalization of a complex issue like mental health, does it maker harder for people who need help to get help? >> you're absolutely correct. when politicians and people go

on tv and start demonizing and saying that people with mental illness are the cause of the problems, it essentially takes away and trivializes what mental illness is all about and it means that some people with mental illness don't want to go and get the help that they need. mental illness, such as depression, is no different to diabetics or hypertension. you can prevent it. you can do early intervention. you can do treatment and you can do recovery services. that is what we really need, not to point fingers at them every time this happens. >> i do wonder when it comes to what we are seeing play out, there's a conversation about gun safety measures. what are the challenges for mental health professionals that

they're up against with the if they're tasked with identifying, predicting and intervening before something like a mass shooting happens. >> that's why psychiatrists who have years and years of training and other mental health professionals in the field know it takes a lot of knowledge to start teasing out, what are the symptoms and the possible repercussions that someone with mental illness has? we know we can avoid this gun epidemic and health crisis that is happening in our country is let us pass laws that if someone is mentally ill or sick, that family members, law enforcement can go in, take away that gun and get treatment. when they are treated they can go through due process and get their guns back again. that's what we should be looking at. how do we make sure that

everyone who buys a gun at least has a background check? it's very simple in today's day and age with the electronics, whether it's a gun dealer, gun show that you can check to see does this person have a criminal record, adjudicated mental illness and, therefore, not sell the guns. i call on both the president's administration and the congress to act now. and act fast. everyone is suffering today. it's going to stay with those people, in those towns, in those cities for a long time. >> casting aspersions, something that every community and every family deals with is not helping this problem. thank you for being here. >> thank you very much. i look forward to seeing you again in the future. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back.

breaking news coming in. reports of a man with a weapon at usa today outside of washington, d.c. let me get over to jessica schneider who is following this. what are you hearing? >> part of this building complex that houses usa today, the

people in there have been evacuated and usa today's newsroom has been evacuated. some employees have been tweeting the scene as they leave that building. so, about half hour ago, fairfax county police tweeted out this notice, saying we are responding to reports of a man with a weapon at the gannett building located at 7950 jones branch drive in mclean. please avoid the area. upat a times to follow. we checked in with a spokesman for the fairfax county police department. a call came in, someone reported seeing a man with a weapon. at this point, there's not been any reports to police that shots have been fired. however as is protocol, police have responded to the gannett building, evacuated part of that complex, asked police to leave the area and police are investigating. this something in progress.

police are investigating this. at least one person called in, saying they saw a man with a weapon. police are investigating to see whether any shots were fired or what is the case right now. kate is this. >> if anything is still happening there. it is all happening right now. jessica will be following that with any updates we get from the local police. thank you, jessica. really appreciate it. another scary day in another city in america. the president right now is in ohio, saying he wants to grieve with the have families of the nine victims who lost their lives in dayton, ohio, after the horrific shooting this weekend. on his way there, the president was asked if anything he wants to do -- if there's anything he wants to do to stop these mass shootings from happening. this uniquely american tragedy. he said there is no appetite to ban military-style weapons but is open to expanding background checks. that is news. this is a debate we've heard play out in some fashion.

is congress more likely to act? joining me now is capital bureau chief. great to see you. >> hi, kate. how are you? >> i would say i am seeing a little bit of movement. i don't know what that means. one person that sxemplyfies this kind of shift is ohio republican congressman mike turner. i'll read for our viewers part of his statement, his change, his evolution, he says he str g strongly supports a second amendment. i will support legislation that prevents the sale of military-style weapons to civilians. magazine limit and red flag legislation. that's mike turner. that's one republican in the house. how legal is the movement, though, what do you think? >> we saw another republican in the house of illinois who also

said he would support universal background checks. there was only a fraction of their conference that supported it last time it came up. i spoke to a senior republican today. everybody is watching president trump. cnn reported earlier that white house has had some conversations with the nra, which has opposed universal background checks in the past, including after the sandy hook shooting, so i think they're all saying where is the president going to go? you covered this. i don't see how this passes in the senate with senate republicans fighting for the majorit majority. i don't see them passing any major legislation. >> that's it, right? mcconnell is not bringing the senate back early in august.

>> no. >> he is saying that he wants to allow a process to play out. what is mcconnell likely to do here? >> he has talked to the chair, lindsey graham, lamar alexander of the health and education, health committee. i think we'll see discussion about whether there will be universal background checks. i think there will be some discussion of that. i don't see it happening. look at jon cornyn in texas, sporting two bills, one that would allow fewer regulations on silencer silencers and another that would allow concealed carry in 50 states. republicans have gone the exact opposite way now that they're talking about. to make such a dramatic shift in such a short period of time, i see rank and file republicans will have a hard time with this. >> what you said at the top is maybe the most important statement. republicans are waiting to see what president trump does. that tells us everything. it's great to see you, thanks

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brooke baldwin and john berman. cnn has confirmed headquarters of usa today has been evacuated over reports of a man with a weapon at the building. it's happening in mclean, virginia. we're told law enforcement is on the scene, including officers with rifles and body armor. as we