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situation. so that's where this is a unique situation we're in. >> the president just said let's see what can be done as far as legislation is concerned. our special coverage continues right now with erin burnett "outfront." outfront next, breaking news, president trump in el paso texas visiting victims of the mass shootings. why is he lashing out aching politicians who praised his visit? plus joe biden unleashing a blistering attack on trump to do tonight, accusing the president of fanning flames of white supremacy. did he go too far? and president trump claims his rhetoric brings people together. will hurd who has been a critic of the president when it comes to race responds. let's go outfront. >> and good evening i'm erp burnett the breaking news, president trump in el paso texas at this hour meeting with first responders. seconds ago speaking out doubling down on his slam of
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democratic politicians, the mayor of dayton, ohio, and ohio senator sherrod brown. >> well, they shouldn't be politicking today. i had it had with sherrod brown. he and the mayor, nan walley. they asked to go in could we go in and make the tour with you? i said yeah, let's do it. they couldn't believe what they saw. and they said it to people. they had never seen anything like it. the entire hospital, no different than what we had in el paso. the entire hospital was, i mean, everybody was so proud of the job they did because they did a great job. they did a great job here. and then i say goodbye. i took them in at their request. we made the tour. they couldn't believe it. she said it to people he said it to people. i get on air force one where they have a tchgss. i turn on the televisions there they are saying well i don't know if it was appropriate for the president to be here. et cetera, et cetera.
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the same old line. they are dishonest people and that's why he got i think about zero% and he failed as presidential candidate. we are going to go in and see see some great people. and i wanted to meet this hero before i did anything. and we appreciate it very much. >> thank you, press. >> thank you. so what happened in ohio? well, president trump met with victims from the shooting in dayton along with the mayor and the senator. walle in y and brown that ramgtsed the the because he got on the plane from ohio to texas and then social media director tweeted about the press conference that waily and brown held after the visit. here is the tweet. very sad to see ohio senator brown and nan wailly lying and mischaracterizing what took place in the visit today. the president was treated like a rock star in the hospital all caught on video. they loved seeing their great
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president. the president followed thaup tweet with one of his own saying it was a warm and wonderful visit. then i saw failed presidential candidate sherrod brown and mayor wailly totalling misrepresenting what took place in the hospital. the news conference after i left for el paso was a fraud. bearing no sem blens to what took place with the incredible people i was lucky to meet and spend time with. they were all amazing. >> in a sense this is like an alternate universe. because the president and description of the brown and waily press conference seems completely at odds with what they said. just listen to what they said about the president. >> well he was comforting. and he did the right things. >> i think the victims and the virs first responders were grateful the president of the united states came to dayton. >> so the president did the right thing. the victims were grateful he was there. so if brown and waily lying about what they said about the president, when they said these good things about him then what were they lying about?
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>> he was treated very well by the victims. for sure. >> and do you have a response to the lying part, that can't skafen o says you were lie sfwloog i don't know. >> brown and waily say the visit was the right thing and victims were grateful. trump says they are lying we can only assume not about that. not about the fact that they said it was a great thing he came. but here is one important thing. we don't know what dplkt happened inside the hospital because reporters were kept away. now the white house says that's because the visit was not a photo op. that's a good thing to say. but as can't skafen o said that's because there is the video. they released the produced video of the visit set to music. i guess it wasn't a photo op. jason carroll outfront live in dayton. jason, you spoke to the dayton mayor. obviously now the president and social media director are saying that waily and brown were lying, mischaracterizing. what do you know about what set the president off that made him
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agitated? >> well, i think there are a number of people who are questioning what set the president off this time. but, look, i can tell you i spoe to nan waily, the mayor of dayton. she was clear about what happened with the president. and the first responders in the victims there. she was very clear and she said that these people were very happy to see them, to see the president, the first lady. she felt as though the president brought comfort to many of the victims there at the miami valley hospital. and so i think there is a little bit of confusion as to why the president said that the mayor and senator brown were lying. i can tell you that the mayor was very critical, very frustrated with the overall visit in terms of the president's non-response to trying to get something -- something concrete, some sort of commitment from the president in terms of what if anything that
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he would do about gun safety legislation going forward. she made it clear she was frustrated that that subject was brought up over and over again, and the president said at one point yes we are going to do something but was not specific about what that something would be. and so perhaps the president was upset about the mayor revealing that. we'll have to go back to the president and ask him about that. but in terms of his response to the victims that they were there, she was very clear that the victims were happy to see him. >> i mean, they couldn't shb more clear about that they were glad he came. and that the victims were glad he was there. which obviously certainly one would think would matter greatly to the president. who took the time to go. thank you jason. outfront dave chalian and telus abwhite house reporter for are the "washington post". telusp david before leaving for
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dayton trump said echted to stay out of the political fray. are you surprised that he did what he did? right he refers to zero% failed presidential candidate in a tweet and he did that in el paso again when meeting with first responders talking about brown. >> sno, not surprised in the least. i can't imagine you are either or any of our viewers are. it's completely in pattern with the way the president has conducted himself, especially when he feels under attack from his critics, from the press, in -- this is his playbook. and there is no stopping him from running these plays, even in the aftermath of our fellow citizens killed in these horrific shootings. so this -- i think this is probably one of the least surprising things we have seen in the trump presidency that he injected politics into this day. >> i mean, telus as we see him
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live in el paso. he is at a command center with first responders, greeting them. look, the -- the top aide for the president of the of the united states calls the democrats in ohio liars if after they said they were glad he came. >> trump refers to the senator from ohio a failed candidate. part of what's jarring about in is that it came less than 48 hours after this. >> now is the time to set destructive partisanship aside. so destructive. and find the courage to answer hatred with unity, devotion and love. >> so that was barrel 48 hours ago. yet tonight it's failed presidential candidate, zero%, liar. >> yeah, if you compare the two videos, the video from monday the president reading from a teleprompt we are the video of
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today, the president extemper and the you can compare them with what someone wrote for him versus attacking which is he is comfortable with. senator brown and the mayor were badmouthing him and his visit. he creates that because he is more comfortable with a foil. he is not comfortable being the comforter in chief. he is not comfortable going in and spending time with victims and not have a fight come out of it. the president saw there were a number of people protests against him in the local communities. he needed someone he can push back at. he pushed back at joe baden. even a fox news anchor and also pushed back and fought against the senator from ohio and the mayor of the local community in part because he is frustrated. he spent hours on the plane watching all of the coverage of protests and people not happy that he was fl. and he wanted to have something to push back on. and that's why he created a foil and spend so much time attacking local officials, because the
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president was not happy with how he was received not necessarily in the hospital about but with all you have the protesters on the ground. that's part of the reason we saw that. >> which is an interesting point too. when the mayor and senator said trump was received well by the patients. the mayor said he was comforting which you would think would be something that would make him feel very good. what is it that set him off? >> i don't think we know exactly. i mean, he also tweeted about vice president biden's speech, calling it boring. ands you pointed out he lashed out at various people, including some who didn't seem to deserve it. i think if anything is surprising here it's certainly not that he is so thin-skinned, that he seemed to lack the self-control to keep any of this to himself at any time. but in this case he seems to sort of being seeing ghosts. right it's almost a paranoia he sees attacks on him that as far
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as we can tell didn't actually happen. it's sort of divorced from reality in a way that i guess we have also become accustomed to. the president and people around him are sometimes frustrated i didn't get more the credit for speeches like with the teleprompter. but this is the reason. and he does have the consistent pattern of reverting to that nastiness and partisan shup. the same he was just decrying. david chalian, the other thing about the tweets with is dan skafen o, the social media director top aide to the president. he goes on twitter after the president visits people shot shot by a mass murderer and refers to how his boss was treated treated like a rockstar caught on video, even though they say this was not a photo-op. they loved seeing their great president. . even at a moment like this dan skafen o tweeting to the audience of one sitting next to
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him on the plane needs to feel he is a rockstar and great president. >> right, and by the way as we discuss dan skafen o's -- his word choice may be different but his account was backed up by sherrod brown, by the mayor, that he was. >> yes they said the people- dsh totally. >> his account is totally backed up by the people the president wanted to smack back when he was on his way to el paso. but clearly you are right, erin. there is an audience of one mentality there. and while they stressed on multiple occasions this is not a photo op we all understand how the president sort of perceives his presidency, very much is through how the camera captures it and portrays it. and dan skafen o is aware of that more than anyone else. >> teloo. >> this is a president who a couple of days ago was talking about how people were angry
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people were making this about him. he was unhappy the linkage between the presidents words about invasions and the manifesto, the racist screed put out by the shooter in el paso. but now the president wants to make the entire visit about him. he wants the entire hospital visit that he made to the two different communities to be not about the grieving communities, not about the heroes and the people who are survivors in this case and even the people who are in mourning because any lost loved ones. he wants it about him, his fight against democrats, partisanship, this is a pattern as we heard from in president where he likes to make it all with him. >> as mollie said he likes to have that foil. thank you both. or all three of you i'm sorry. as we look at the president live in el paso with the first responders. we are anticipating him to come out perhaps speak again heading to air force one. all during this hour. next the democratic front runner, ripping into president trump today. >> this president has fanned the
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flames of white supremacy in this nation. >> and trump responding. plus a cnn exclusive. cnn learning the white house resisted attempts by the department of homeland security to make domestic terror a high priority. why? there were two words that they refused to use. they were white supremacy. and president trump claims he is tonight to stricter gun control laws. >> well i'm looking to do background checks. i think background checks are important. >> so will he follow through?
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of course he hasn't otherwise but he did in the teleprompter speech. clearly deliberate by joe biden. what is the strategy? >> listen, erin this is the strongest rebuke we have heard from joe bidden of president trump. a seener biden campaign official saying this gets at the heart of why joe biden is running for president. they say this goes back to when he got into the race. he talked about charlottesville, how that was a turning point for him and that he really got into this race to make sure that in his words he could help restore the soul of america. because he believes that in is what is at stake here. and that's what he carefully and forcefully laid out today in front of the crowd in iowa. he even went so far as to go threw former presidents back to george h. w. bush. and what they have done in his words to live up to the office of the presidency and really unite americans in times of trouble to rebuke hate. went all the way through president obama and simply said president trump in his eyes is not not lichaj up to that not you have for the challenge.
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erin this is the strategy that the biden campaign has had from the beginning which is to make this about donald trump. look, we know the last six to eight weeks have been a lot of the democrats going back and forth at each other. but today it was all about donald trump and making the case to voters here in iowa that something has to be restored. something that has been torn apart by president trump has to be restored here in the united states. >> jessica thank you very much. and oust rob aft rino a member of the president trump white house re-elect advisory council. and keith boykin. president trump was kerrly watching biden as he flew to el paso. he tweeted he was watching sleepy joe biden making a speech. so boring. the lambie stream media our country will doo poorly with him. okay. should he just have stayed focused on his day what he was doing and ignore joe biden.
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>> let me turn that around? shouldn't the media and more importantly shouldn't the democrats and the leading candidate right now in the democratic field joe biden who should know better, shouldn't they for a period of time not go on the attack, not fan the flames, not bring out things like white segregationist and white nationalist and supremacist all this stuff while the president is going to the constitute he cities affected meeting with family members do you think the family members want to hear in non-sense from beto o'rourke and all the candidates doing everything political and nothing to actually heal what they are going through? they are ready to bury loved ones and the democrats are fund raising off this, calling him a white supremacist. joe biden brings up george walt disney whom he received an award from in the 1970s. there is a period of time -- you want to have the fights? that's fine. buts in a period where we should actually put the swords down and talk to the victims. and care about them.
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imagine if it were turned around for a he could. if obama or any other president went to a place where we needed healing and the republican started all this kind of non-sense what would be the reaction in they would be aching republicans in the media. right, come on keith. >> what can you say to what rob just said? >> you can say you agree. >> you can say that it's utter non-sense. i'm tired of having this discussion over and over again. we all know that donald trump is responsible for fanning the flames. >> and pulling the trigger as they have said? is that correct. >> literally beto o'rourke before the last body hit the ground was sitting there saying boom donald trump pulled the trigger. . and so were so many other democrats. i mean it's so out of bounds and nobody cares about florida anymore. that's the norm now. >> so keith, biden. >> are you finished? >> i'll go on but i want you to respond. >> go ahead and respond. >> today the president of the
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united states within the past 24 hours has attacked beto o'rourke. attacked the. >> he responding. >> are you going to let me speak. >> go ahead. >> who called him what. >> are you going to let me speak. >> white supremacist in the white house. >> now do you create unity in a country when you have people who are working on behalf of trump or speaking on behalf of trump, rob who refuse to have a civil conversation but instead want to turn everything around to somebody else and don't want to address the issue? we are talking about the president of the united states. we're not talking about what other people doo or say about the president. barack obama spent five and a half years while a billionaire from new york lied about his birth certificate. he didn't go on tv every day or on twitter every day and complaint about it. he tried to be presidential. brought the nation up. this guy brings us down. >> can he squus ignore and say i'm going to be the democrats two democrats in ohio said the victims were glad to see me and they were glad i came.
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but he slammed them. >> he made my point shouldn't we be respectful. yes it -- should have started with all the democratic candidates who elizabeth warren sent out a letter fund raising off this. >> donald trump released a campaign ad today about miss visit to dayton. this was despicable. it was a campaign ad. it was a campaign ad. >> it was a video of what he did today. >> rob, i don't even know what to think of what you are saying right now because it's all lies. no. let me just finish my list i couldn't finish while you did the full buster earlier today. the senator from ohio, sherrod brown, mayor of dayton nan whaley. bernie sanderss, beto o'rourke, elizabeth warren, shepherd smith, fox news, "the new york times," the quote unquote lame seam cnn those are the people donald trump attacked today on twitter while he is supposed to be oouchg the country after 31 people were shut and killed in el paso and dayton. and you are going to sit here
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and tell me the democrats are responsible and not the president of the united states. where does the buck stop, rob? i'm sick of having this conversation with you over and over again. you know better. this is ridiculous. >> okay look. >> why are we doing this. >> i'm not looking for a better moment i'm looking for honest from you. >> you are better than in. >> i'm gifting it to you. >> maybe you don't know better this is outrageous. >> i have not gotten any honesty from the left or frankly a lot of the media. i asked you. >> we're talking about the president of the united states. what is his responsibility? where does the buck stop, rob? >> i asked you question before. >> you don't ask the questions here. erin is the moderator. >> you enwon't even answer the question. >> what was your question. >> to the chair might i ask you a question. i asked a question before do you think it's appropriate that elizabeth warren send out a fund raising letter in the middle of this. >> what toes this have to do with the president of the united states. >> because it was tone. >> the president sets the tone.
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>> and he did. he gave a speech in the oval -- in the white house. he has gone to dayton. >> he went out tweeting about attacking people. he attacked barack obama and hillary clinton. >> wait a second because you have an important question to answer. first of all rob putting aside democrats shouldn't the president of the united states set the tone he wants everyone else to follow, period full stop? >> he did. >> except for then he didn't. >> he did. and then he was viciously attacked by the left and the media. the. >> okay, so that -- that's not really answering the question. >> you also keith a important question to answer. joe biden, the front runner came out today and i play part of what he said but he also said things like this i want to play it quickly ask you whether you think this is okay. >> our president has aligned himself with the darkest forces in this nation. we have a president with a toxic tongue, who is publicly and unapology etically embraced the political strategy of hate, racism and division.
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our president has more in common with george wallace with george washington. his incompetence, his immorality, his carnage stops with us. >> he used the word carnage four days after the mass shooting putting all those things together. should joe biden have done that speech today on the day the president was going to visit victims? >> i don't know and i'm not here to defend or criticize joe biden. >> comen you attacked me. >> give at at least saying i don't know that was more than you said about trump. >> i answered your question. >> i'm not here to attack or defend joe biden. but i will say this, i think that. >> keith it was wrong. >> well, first of all. >> it was wrong. >> i'm not sure whether it's wrong or not because i just heard that for the first time. >> what else do you need to hear? it was inflammatory. >> i don't think anything about
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what joe biden said is inaccurate or lies. donald trump is the only president of the united states we have right now. i want not elizabeth warren was not beto o'rourke not joe biden. not myself or anybody else but donald trump. and the president has to set the tone. barack obama did that. george w. bush did that. every other president in my lifetime has tried to set the tone. even when they were unfairly attacked. they tried to set the tone. this guy speaks with forked forked tongue gives a speedy prelim for ten minutes and then we forget about the four years of lies and racism and xenophobia and bigotry he is responsible for the answer is not riept. >> the answer is no it was inappropriate for them to be doing what they've been doing the last four days. if they want to go on the attacks next week go ahead. >> it's also inappropriate for donald trump to release the campaign ad. >> he is responding to what people were attacking him on. >> he went on twitter today after sherrod brown said it was good he came to visit. >> but he also wenten.
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>> he said other things. >> he was he criticized him on gun control. >> what he should have said is today not the day we're here in the hospital. >> why does the president have to respond to everything. >> i saw sherrod brown zero% presidential candidate. >> what they said in the hospital that he was a comforter and they were dplad he was there. i don't know what he takes issue with. but it hopefully wasn't that. beto o'rourke. slams the president does the president need to come out and say he is now embarrassed by apology at 1% in the democratic party or by coming out on tape today and saying this? >> well, you know joe is a prey incompetent guy. i watched him interviews and what he said and how he said it. and i wouldn't have rated him very high in the first place. but joe biden is truly lost his fast ball. that i can tell you. >> they are political people
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trying to make points. they are trying to make points. >> rob at the least can you admit it's bizarre that he has to talk about polls so much? what does where people are polling in the exact beingic party have have. >> that was his response. i've said these things in the past do i think he should have taken the bait and responded to these? no, i don't. however, you know, the media and certainly the presidential candidatesen on the left has been criticizing him unfairly in many ways. and attacking him what i culled you a white nationalle dwrapgsist are you going to sit there and take it you are not going to. >> what about lying about someone's birth certificate. he took it. barack obama was a man. he was a president of the united states. >> okay. >> he didn't respond to every stupid lie that donald trump put out there. this fie is irresponsible and reckless and that's not the behavior we want from a president of the united states. >> you want to have the fights have those fights. but these last four days.
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>> you should have that fight conversation with him. >> these four days should be off limits. >> they will tell that to donald trump. >> tell that to donald trump doesn't. >> julian castro, beto o'rourke. cory booker and. >> none of those people are he needs to act like it. >> as the president points out either none or one will be the president but there is no presidential candidate. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next breaking news president trump wrapping up in el paso. we will hear from one official who didn't want the president to be there. does he think the president did the right thing like the mayor and the senator? ohio? plus president trump insisting his guysive rhetoric brings people together. how does he explain this characterization of migrants? >> we are cutting loose dangerous criminals into our
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a new samsung note. click, call or visit a store today. breaking news, president trump wrapping up his trip to el paso as i speak. moments ago he met with first responders. he also visited victims of the mass shooting. he visited with hospital staff. heading now back to air force one and then to washington. we are keening an eye as he
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boards the flight. there have been protests in el paso during the president's visit. boris sanchezed inside el paso outside the wal-mart where the massacre happened. does the president think his visit went well today in el paso? >> erin, given what the president said at the regional command center where he stopped a short while ago. he thinks it was a positive respect. saying the respect and admiration that the office of the president receives made it an amazing day. we should point out according to the white house pool there was somebody standing out with a large bed sheet that read racist go home. that's generally the sentiment i've heard from people i talked to in el paso. a sentiment that the president can't console the community because of the rhetoric used against immigrants. this is largely an immigrant descendant community. just behind me there is someone on a micron. there was sob did he somebody
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deriding the president, asking the to speak out against white supremacy. there is a sinnism about the visit. people telling me earlier that they believe the president seeking a photo opportunity. we should point out before he left the white house, the president shot back at many of his democratic rivals and even republicans who were criticizing his visit, calling them opportunityists looking for political talking points. >> boris thank you and also on the skroen you can see the president's motorcade arriving in el paso. just pulling up right now to air force one. and you will see momentarily as he boards air force one to head back to washington, d.c. s this the second of two visits as i mentioned, been in el paso visiting a hospital and first responders. and that came after a visit to dayton this morning around lunchtime. there he is. we'll just see as he gets out. he is with first lady melania
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trump who has been with him at all the visits during the day. let me bring in republican congressman will hurd of texas as we watch the president get ready to board air force one. congressman you are on the intelligence committee. former undercover cia. you have the longest border district of any in country. do you understand why some people there, including friend former congressman current democratic presidential candidate didn't want the president to come. >> i understand how they you recollect aed and the kerps they have had. and concerns people in the community have. but this was an opportunity for the president to be a uniter in chief. he needs to continue the rhetoric that he started earlier this week and condemning white nationalism, terrorism. we got to -- we want to make sure we continue to see this. i think earlier before he departed on this trip he talked
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about wanting to strengthen the loopholes in the background check process. i think some of the democrats on the senate side who aren't running for president work with the white house to try to work on that piece of legislation. i was one of eight republicans that supported that in the -- when it passed the house of representatives. i also hope as we look in appropriating funds for -- the next fiscal year, 2020, that we make sure the department of homeland security has enough money to focus on countering violent extremism. and violent extremism is more than just islamic terrorism. it should be focused on white nationalist terrorists. and we know -- you know, there was a study done last year by the secret service when they looked at a 27 events, mass casualty events within the year, that someone being killed three times or more, three or for four
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more people killed in one of the events. and what they found was a majority of the -- three fourths of the folks people involved in the killing had exhibited some kind of statement that they were going to do something. and more than half of them had -- had other people report that behavior. so what does this mean? this means that we have an opportunity to try to disrupt the radicalization process that many of the folks are going through. >> let me ask you, because you just raised a lot of things, and i want to follow up on all of them. just so everybody sees the president getting out of the beast, his car and getting ready to head to air force one with melania trump. you bring up department of homeland security security getting what it needs and the fact that the great threat is from white supremacy linked domestic terror in the mass shooting incidents you talk about, mass casualty. we learned tonight at cnn that
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the white house fought the department of homeland security for more than a year. dhs wanted domestic terror a greater priority. the white house was focus ds on jihad. they fought a year against mentioning national terror in the terrorism document petition they ultimatedly add add paragraph. informs a fight for a year you gave the statistics could this be significant? >> well it should. and i think -- let's focus -- a lot of times what we have seen the last couple of days is focusing on the things that actually divide us rather than what unites us. i think you have seen many -- if not notify of my republican colleagues come out talk specifically about el paso as being an incident of white nationalist terrorists. you had the president say that and use those words. you have federal law enforcement local law enforcement. so when we are back in session we should focus on where is this money going, how do do we
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appropriate it. >> are you worried the fight over words, the refusal to put it in as a top threat actually affected the department of homeland security's ability to catch killers? >> well, i would said that the entity that would be responsible for catching these killers would be the local law enforcement but also the fbi. they would be the lead agency dealing with hate crimes. and i also know that fbi is overwhelmed with the number of tips that they get. we have -- one of the conversations that has been had over the last couple days is if you see something on social media take a screen shot, share it with local law enforcement, the fbi. we know people are doing that, because the fbi is overwhelmed with these things. so. >> do they need more resources from the trump -- than the president has given thus far? >> i don't think it's necessarily a lack of willingness to give the resources. i think it's just something that
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has ballooned. and what we also need to do wsh you know, the volume of information that could be -- that is being provided right now is in the -- is peta bytes, a big number. let's put it that way. we should have conversations. why don't we have algorithms sitting on the social media companies on their side to help identify. it should be trained by federal law enforcement to help narrow the focus of the limited resources that we have in the fbi. >> so can i ask you -- because when the white house added the reference to domestic terror to the document after this year fight they did not use the words white premcy. knows are the director of the fbi christopher wray on the intelligence committee formerly on homeland security you know he testified that the words are the right words. white supremacy. they didn't use the words. you have said, congressman and very passionately that words
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matter. >> absolutely. >> why do you think trump's white house refused to use the words white supremacy when it is the greatest domestic terror threat. >> well i can't answer that question because i was i wasn't involved in the conversations. i'm sure we'll try to get to the woman of this. but the question is now going forward the -- the language that people are using now -- all right, the focus on trying to solve the problems now, i think this is important. that's what i i'm going to focus on and work towards because we can help disrupt this attack cycle. the secret service has a program where it's a behavioral threat, analysis, management program. and they've been using this for decades in order to identify these kinds of threats, investigate these threats, and potentially mitigate these threats. there is a piece of legislation that brian babin from houston, a republican, and val demings from
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florida that has bipartisan support to make sure the tools are provided to local law enforcement. these are some of the ways we can make sure we prevent this happening. >> congressman hurd, i appreciate your time. and i look forward to having you on as many times as you can until obviously as we said you are not running for re-election. >> i can come on after that too earn. >> yes you can thank you. >> and outfront next the 2020 candidates mounting one of the most aggressive attacks on president trump. do they risk going too far. >> plus breaking news this hour, the president wrapping up the visit to el paso on air force one right now as you see that is a live picture of the tar mack in lpsz ready for take off. i'm speaking to one official who is against the president's visit. but the president was there has he changed his mind? does he think trump struck the right tone? donald trump failed as a businessman.
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ton, the foyt for 2020, cory booker slams trump, saying the president is endanger american lives with hateful words. >> it was sowed by those who spoke the same words, the el paso murderer did warning of an invasion. it was sowed by those who spoke of an infessation of disgusting cities, rats and rodents. it was sowed by those who have drawn of an equivalence between neonazis and those who protest
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them. >> book booker joining other democrats calling our president trump in the wake of two mass shootings in which 31 people were massacred. former vice president joe biden equating trump with avowed white supremacist george wallace saying he is the most racist president this country had since johnson and responsible for the hatred and violence. "outfront" now john delaney and congressman, i appreciate your time tonight. so many of your rivals are ratcheting up the rhetoric against trump today. bernie sanders tweeting he's an overt racist and biden saying he's fanned the flames of white supremacy with george wallace and other comments. is this the right tone for today when trump is visiting victims and first responders? is it wrong or the right time because americans are focused on it? >> listen, i can't disagree with
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anything for the democratic nomination have said that you just read. the timing of it is always a difficult question for everyone, but the real question is what are we going to do going forward? is the president going to change? is he going to stop having a spineless attitude towards the nra or change rhetoric and stop kind of putting out all this hateful rhetoric that he's been doing? that to me is really the question that i think people, you know, should be asking themselves is how are we going to handle this going forward? there are things we need to do now, there is action we need to take now to ensure that the american people are safe, and there is action that the president needs to take now. he needs to change his tone. he needs to dial down the noise and change his rhetoric and that is important now in the united states. >> i want to ask you about going forward on gun control. it's something that you have taken on, but first to that point. >> yeah. >> joe biden said, talked about the president being low energy
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and vacant eyed as he read the prompter calling out white sup preliminary see two days ago. he's making it clear that the president doesn't get goanother chance and long fanning the flaming, there is nothing he can do that will change it. do you agree? >> look, the president made clear how he feels on this issue based on the kind of things he said since he's been the president of the united states and the kinds of things he said when he was running for president talking about invasion and infestations and telling people to go back to their countries. this has been terrible hateful rhetoric. i think we all know where he stands on this issue. it would be better if he changed it. that would obviously be better for the american people if we had a president while he is still being -- while he is still the president, which people like me are fighting really hard for the opportunity to beat him in 2020 but until that moment, it would be better for the american people if he changed his
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approach, his rhetoric, that would of usually be better for everyone and i hope he does that. >> certainly obviously today we didn't see that. he was at least slamming as many democrats as he could, those who complimented him. on the issue of -- >> reporter: he should lift up. >> you've been obviously in congress so you know about executive orders. he says he might do background checks by executive order. i understand talking to lawyers this would be complicated, it's not easy if you can do gun control through executive order, bomb bol wou barack obama would have done it. there you think there will be change on background checks? >> it would be terrific if the president did universal background checks based on executive order. they are the law of the land except we have a massive loophole that's being exploited. what we're talking about doing is closing the loophole. the same thing with limitations on these military-style weapons that should not be on the
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streets of the united states of america. we passed a law actually on a bipartisan basis back in the '90s to get these off our streets. >> the president said he doesn't have the political will for that, no political will for assault weapons. >> i think he's wrong. >> there may not be the political will if your audience is the nra but there is the political will to do it if your audience is the united states. i was talking to a young police officer in manchester and he told me the most popular item in the elementary schools this past year was not some new kind of sneaker or not some new toy but it was bulletproof backpacks, made of kevlar. that's what american families think they have to buy for their kids to go to school. and we've allowed this to happen. we've allowed ourselves to get
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to this place. i think there is the will if you have the spine, and if you're willing to stand up to special interests like the nra. >> all right. appreciate your time. congressman delaney, thank you. >> thank you. next, i'll speak to an official from el paso that didn't want president trump to be there today, after seeing the president meet with victims and first responders, has he changed his mind? so bob, what do you take for back pain? before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief.
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hotels.com. be there. do that. get rewarded. breaking news, the president just left el paso. "outfront" now, commissioner stout, let me start with what today senator sheriff brown of ohio said he wanted to meet with the president so he toucould ta to him about gun control and putting aside the president's s subsequent slam of president brown. do you think democrats that refuse to meet with the president including escobar missed an opportunity to have their voices heard by him? >> well, from what i understand, congresswoman escobar, i don't think she refused to meet with him. i think she asked for him to
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give her a call before he came into town, and he refused to do that. i do think that at some point congresswoman and president trump need to talk and they need to work this out. president trump needs to reach out to her and apologize, i think, and tell her, tell us what he's going to do to make sure this never happens again. >> so i know that you were very open commissioner, about not wanting the president to come to el paso. obviously, when he went today t -- to sda dayton, victims saidy are glad he came, he was comforting to them. do you think the president struck the right tone in el p o paso? >> i was not with him when he
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went to the hospital. i was not able to go to the 911 center where he was speaking, so i can't speak for any of the victims and how they felt with his visit and i'm sure that folks within law enforcement here thinking folks in law enforcement and first responders that were on the scene, i'm sure they were thankful for that. you know -- >> do you think it's a good thing he tried to take on the roll of consoler and chief or n no? >> it's hard to tell. i haven't seen pictures or heard from folks in the hospital. i heard from folks in the hospital feeling scared and stressed even though they legally felt stressed but, you know, i certainly hope that the
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victims felt that he visited and felt consoled but, you know, this community is in pain still, and, you know, i think the vast majority of the folks were not happy he was here. >> commissioner stout, appreciate you taking the time with your thoughts. thanks so much to all of you for being with us. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening, traditionally when a president visits a city in mourning, he meets with victims and families, doctors and nurses, police and other first responders. he praises their efforts and listens to those who lost loved ones and adds what words of comfort he can. president trump did that today in dayton and el paso as tradition away from cameras and microphones, at least we have to assume that is exactly what he did but we also just moments ago heard the president of the united states using some of his precious time to talk about himself and to attack an ohio senator