good evening. we want to start with breaking news. a press conference in philadelphia on the shooter situation. let's listen. >> got officers shot in various parts of their body but fortunately everybody is going to be okay. we have three here. we have three at einstein. we have a couple officers that were actually injured responding to the scene. we'll tell you having been at that scene for the last couple hours trying to talk to this male, he continues to fire rounds out of the window so this situation is in no way resolved. i wanted to come and give you some kind of update to see, let you know where we are but we are trying to talk to this male, trying to let him know that he can end this peacefully now. we've called him multiple times. he has picked up the phone a couple times but he has not

answered. we've been trying to work with the family member, but right now we have not been successful. despite several attempts to talk to him, both on the loud speaker, on the bull horn and on telephone, we have not been able to make contact with him thus far. we're trying to get him to come out peacefully but he refuses to do so. i have to get back over to the scene. i'll answer a few brief questions and the mayor may have a comment and others but right now i have to get back over because the critical thing to tell you that i did not tell you is i have, you know, some situations where i'm worried about potential hostage situations so i need to get that resolved. >> commissioner, can you tell us how the officers inside are, their well being. >> okay. we believe they're okay. i won't say much more out of concern for their safety right now. so we believe that this male is in a certain part of the

building, i won't tell you where they are, where he is right now so i don't endanger the officers on the scene in any way but it's a very volatile situation still unfolding. as a result, there is so much i can tell you about what is going on inside of the property say for the fact even when i was on scene, he fired multiple rounds, many of which struck the swat truck and buildings across the street and that's long after i got there long after it started so he was continued to fire. it is a grave concern to us, a grave concern to us but we're trying to communicate to him that we want him out safely. even going as far as telling him that the officers are going to be okay and that there is nothing that we can't work through but right now, we are not successful so i'm going to get back over there. i'll answer just a few questions and i got to get back over. >> [ indiscernible question ] >> just you talking about -- that's what i went in there. i didn't get a chance because of proximity to make it to

einstein. thankfully, everybody will be okay. i spoke to all three that are here and they are all in good spirits but, you know, we're concerned about this whole situation. >> commissioner, do you think there is just one shooter? >> right now, we're not sure and so i don't want to say that and be wrong, nor from a tactical standpoint do we want to make that assumption. >> is there anyone in custody at this time? >> there are people taken into custody initially, okay? and there may be someone in custody inside, but right now we know is this male is hold up inside and he is not since i've come here in the last 20 minutes or so, there is no indication that he is trying to surrenderer right now. we do know he's still alive. there is no question about that because of the shots that keep ringing out. we're very concerned about, you next neighborhood and police officers but we're doing everything within our power to get him to come out.

>> you say you've been in touch with his family. what are they saying? >> we're just trying to do right now is do as much as we can to resolve this peacefully and so without getting into all of that at this point, we're trying to use and leverage everything possible, multiple attempts to talk to him by myself and others trying to assure him i'm out front, you know, that he has the highest assurance. he's not going to be harmed when he comes out. normally i wouldn't take this posture but i have police officers in a volatile situation. i have to get back over there. mayor, i don't know if you want to say something. >> i had the opportunity to speak to the six officers. they are all in good spirits and obviously it was a traumatic experience for them. i was talking to one of the officers with the graze wound to the head and he had two little boys that looked like they were 9 or 10 years old and kept thinking about how their lives would have changed with a little more difference in space. and i just -- our concern right now is for them and their

families and we'll sort out other stuff once this scene is resolved over at the shooting -- where the shooting took place. and we're just thankful, a little angry about someone having all that weaponry and all that firepower but we'll get to that another day. it's all about the officers and their families right now and god bless them and god save them all. thank you. >> you heard from philadelphia police commissioner richard ross who described the situation tonight there as volatile. six officers shot in north philadelphia this evening that we know about. all six are in hospitals, not life threatening condition we're told. two officers reportedly remain inside the building perhaps trapped inside the building at the stand off. that's according to the philadelphia inquirer which spoke with the philadelphia police commissioner and the police commissioner there indicating there also may be

suspects handcuffed in custody inside the building possibly with those police officers in one part of the building. philadelphia police through their twitter account say they are attempting to communicate with the shooter, you heard the commissioner there saying he personally has attempted to communicate with the shooter so far unsuccessfully, the shooter shows no sign of wanting to surrender and sending updates via twitter saying the shooter continues to fire at police, to fire out of this structure and you heard the commissioner there saying some of those shots have hit the swat vehicle. this is being described as an active situation. it certainly appears that way from the outside, as well. many details right now unclear at this moment. i want to bring in our senior justice correspondent evan perez. let talk a little bit as dusk is falling and night is coming in

philadelphia, that adds another layer for police on the scene. the difficulty, you know, i guess they will have to light up the area. they are trying to get the shooter to talk, trying to assure this shooter or perhaps shooters they said there could be more than one that they will not be harmed if they come out. what do we know about how all of this began, evan? >> well, according to the police, this began as some kind of a narcotics call, that these officers were responding to now we don't know exactly what the details are of that. we don't know if they were doing some operation to try to buy drugs from someone in order to essentially set up a case or bring charges against someone but it appears that the suspect or suspects was expecting these officers, and the officers were certainly caught unaware. so the chief there just described the -- i think it was police commissioner, he described the situation where

officers were having to bailout of windows trying to escape with their lives and it appears that at least two officers remain inside the building. now short while ago, one of the reporters from our local affiliate kyw talked to four women being taken out outside of the building of that same building they said they were on the second floor. they seemed obviously extremely shaken up and the police just described also the fact there were people who were initially taken away from the scene, people who perhaps were arrested so this was appears to be a police operation that suddenly unravelled and went horribly wrong because this shooter or perhaps more than one opened fire and as he said, we were watching some of this, anderson, unfold in the past hour. he was firing outside three the front door, through the front window. we were told by sources he was firing through the walls. so again, this is a very

volatile situation and makes it very hard for the swat team to go in when you know you have officers who are trapped somewhere inside that building, makes it a lot more difficult to come up with a tactical plan to attack the situation. >> i just want to point out to our viewers, we're obviously aware that it is very possible the shooter or if there is more than one in the building has access to a television or radio and may be monitoring coverage of this and so we're being very select in what we are saying about any kind of tactical situation and even some of the pictures we are showing, we obviously, you know, are very cautious about showing anything that if somebody is watching who is involved in this from inside we don't want to give them any sort of information. we obviously it is the police who are the ones who are really hoping to be communicating with this person.

is it clear if this is a single family structure or these are two, three, sometimes four-level homes in this area in philly? do we know is this a single family or multiple separate dwellings? >> earlier when we were able to -- when there was daylight, we could see it appeared to be a two-story above ground structure. we don't know if there is a basement and how many units there are. it appears there is more than one unit. there was a reporter who talked to four women brought out of at least one unit in the building. they said they lived on the second floor. so it appears the suspect is somewhere else in this building. it's not a very large building. this appeared to have been, these appear to be row houses converted into apartments. this is an area north of center city, philadelphia. it's near temple university hospital and a lot of health

care facilities nearby and so again, this is an area, this is a residential neighborhood and appears this is two stories above ground. we don't know if there is a basement but appears to be multiple units in the bidding. >> earlier there was reporting in local media sort of location perhaps of two police officers who were inside, they don't want to give away location of law enforcement or the alleged shooter or shooters or anyone involved. i want to bring in more law enforcement analysts and experts. joining me is charles ramsey and retired fbi special agent james and cnn law enforcement. this is your town you know it

well. you know the police force. can you talk about what they are doing now and how difficult does this become as light goes down? >> well, they have established a perimeter getting civilians out of the way and media out of the way so that they can secure that area best they can. the swat team is on site now. i know the fbi and atf responded. i don't know if they are swat teams or not but the philadelphia police swat team is certainly there. again, this individual is still shooting and to add to the complication, heavy rains will come in about half an hour into the philadelphia area. that will cause even further complications. they will continue to talk to this guy and if i gets to that point, if they are in danger, they will do what they have to do. nighttime certainly can be your friend but can be your enemy. they do have capability visual.

so that shouldn't interfere too much with them. >> we talk about active situations, don't wait for swat team. strategy, go in, go in, neutralize the threat. if there are hostages involved, that changes the dynamic. >> three different types here we're dealing with. you and i talked with it seems like way too many times about active shooter situations. this is a barricaded subject or barricaded subject with hostage. both are different. treated completely differently. you want a perimeter. you want anybody to ingress and egress. that looks like the officers shot and thankfully none of them with life threatening wounds, it looks like a felony drug warrant and that happens hundreds upon hundreds of times across cities across america every single day. >> police showing up. >> not going to announce warrant and going in and if the subject doesn't open their door, they were engaged.

the only other option maybe an undercover agent or undercover informant went there to purchase drugs and police responded and this happened. the fact the subject barricaded himself inside, you have police officers pinned down or unable to get themselves, the three things have to be on scene. philadelphia police chief if the feds move in and take over, that would be a commander being a special agent in charge of the fbi. there has to be hostage negotiators. those are the people trying to talk. we heard from the police spokesperson. he has refused to speak to them. that is never a good sign. so from negotiations standpoint, get somebody from the family, get somebody with intimate knowledge and hopefully be the buffer and talk to them and third, tactical response. if there are no hostages, surround the place and wait. time is on your side. if there are hostages and any indication one will be hurt, the good guys will go in and get him.

>> chief ramsey, the difficult part all right is if this is drug related effort earlier, there no telling the condition that the shooter and/or shooters are in whether they are, you know, have actually taken drugs themselves. that adds another layer of complication. >> yeah, you just don't know the answer to that. he could be on something or a violent individual that doesn't want to be taken. so they don't really know. bottom line is he's got -- he's heavily armed apparently. this thing has been going on for three hours. there have been numerous rounds. someone said over 100 rounds fired. so clearly, he has a lot of ammunition and he has no intention of surrendering peacefully at this point in time. hopefully this changes. hopefully nobody else gets injured. this will be a long night if he doesn't. we'll have to wait to see what unfolds.

they are not going to let anybody else get hurt. >> yeah, we'll keep a very close eye on what is happening in philadelphia throughout this program for the next two hours we're on the air and bring you updates from our people on the ground as warranted. up next, investors got throttled today amid fears of a recession. president trump's answer the buck doesn't stop anywhere near here and later, my visit with stephen colbert talking about comedy and president trump and his scramble to keep up with breaking headlines and we also talk about bittersweet memories. the losses he has experienced and the impact it has had on his life and on his comedy. what sore muscles? what with advpounding head? .. advil is... relief that's fast. strength that lasts. you'll ask...

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you're seeing. >> reporter: anderson, we're two blocks from where the standoff is taking place. our camera position now is moved back a little bit, but you can see there is a lot of police activity out here. you already heard from philadelphia chief of police who said this is a volatile situation. again, this started at just about 4:35. that's initially when the call came in. police were serving a search warrant, narcotics warrant. they were met by gunfire and after that, the calls went out for more guns, more officers, swat came in. police descended on the scene and then what folks out here say is what they heard is gunfire, shot after shot fired and came in the reports of the police who were injured. at first the report was two officers injured then it was four, then it was five, then it was six officers injured but as you now know, we're hearing injuries are not said to be life threatening. as this ordeal went on, there

was a report that the suspect inside was at one point live streaming at one point just about 5:50 there was a lull in the shooting and more shooting happening after that. shortly thereafter we heard word that two officers are actually inside that row house. we're waiting to hear about their condition. they are said to be barricaded inside there with three prisoners held, as well. then about 7:00 that's where we heard from philadelphia police. they were tweeting out saying that they are trying to engage with the suspect. they are still trying to engage with the suspect but are continuously met with gunfire. at this point we're still standing by. we'll be out here all night long and as you can imagine, as night falls it gets more and more difficult for officers to see what is going on and gauge what is going on. we'll be here all night with each development as it comes down to us. anderson? >> jason, thanks very much. we'll continue to check in with you while we keep an eye on the on going shootings in

philadelphia, there is breaking news on the market and president trump has the stock market plummets and bond markets flash warning of dire economic times. the president is tweeting anger at the federal reserve chair that he himself picked. his name is jerome powell joining me now to talk about what is going on is jim acosta. it sure seems like the president is just trying to basically put all the blame on the chairman of the fed for a lot of things and this is a person he himself selected and praised. >> reporter: that's right. it seems like there is a mild freakout inside the white house over what happened on wall street today. the dow going down some 800 points and the president and his economic advisors were blaming the chairman of the federal reserve jerome powell, the president at one point tweeting earlier today jerome powell was clueless. the president talked about this inverted yield curve where the yields for the ten-year treasury bonds were dipping below those for the two-year treasury bonds.

that has been a reliable predictor of recessions going back decades. president even tweeted about that calling that phenomenon crazy but they are certainly concerned inside the president's team and we're told by administration officials that he is frustrated with the team because they have not been able to turn the market around as fast as he would like. >> the -- i mean, is there a plan other than criticizing the chairman of the federal reserve? i mean, again, this comes on the heels of the china tariffs being postponed so as not to freak people out over christmas. >> reporter: anderson, it seems like the plan is to fix the blame on jerome powell. i can tell you peter navarro was on fox earlier today describing this as a fed downturn and not a trump downturn but fed downturn after officials toting the handling of the economy. you'll recall this year larry

kudlow just in may saying that they were killing it on the economy. they are not making those bold statements this evening but anderson, you're right. they did make a major reversal yesterday delaying them a new round of tariffs i should say until december. the president almost acknowledged the obvious yesterday which is these tariffs are being passed on to consumers and then the commerce secretary wilber ross said today they are trying to protect the shopping season. that's acknowledgement the tariffs and trade war are having a negative effect with consumers and they are worried about it. inside the administration. i talked to a source close to the white house who said as this economy goes, so go the president's reelection prospects. anderson. >> in appreciate it. more from washington post opinion columnist kathryn and cnn political analyst and "new york times" correspondent maggie haberman.

do you agree with that? as the economy goes, so goes the prospects for president trump? >> yes, i think the president's advisors look at it that way. i don't think that's the only issue he'll face reelection on but the one he's staked a lot of ground on and the president himself over the last two and a half years treated the stock market like his poll and watched it go up and traded like it was something to celebrate and rarely talks about it when it goes down. what he's come to believe over warnings repeatedly when the stock market has taken a dip, he then tells advisors it will eventually come back up and he's come to experience that over the lurches on the economy. this feels different. we'll see. >> in indicator that is pointing toward a possible looming recession, just if you can explain what it is to all of us and how successful it has been. >> sure, so basically, in order to -- in order to lend someone money, generally for a longer period of time, generally you

expect a bigger return, right? that's why longer term bonds tend to have higher yields than shorter term bonds. we're seeing a reversal of that. that suggestions markets believe that basically the fed is going to have to cut rates, that the economy is going to weaken and we'll have less inflation going forward. it's an indicator in the past of a looming recession. it doesn't necessarily mean there is one coming but does suggest markets are losing confidence and that's the risk. in the past when we have recessions, expansions don't die of old age. we are in a very long expansion at this point but they get killed. someone or something murders an expansion and that somewhere or something could be a shock like an oil shock or collective crisis of confidence which is what we may be seeing now because we have a risk on going, the escalating trade war and risk from brexit from other tensions and all of those things put together could get everyone sort of collectively saying you know what? maybe now is not a good time to hire and invest.

>> you have a looming deficit republicans used to care about. now nobody seems to care. >> that's one of the real risks here. if we do have a recession, there is not a lot of powder left in the gun right now because we took on $2 trillion worth of debt, normally if there is a recession, what you would expect the president and congress to do would be to call for more fiscal stimulus. there is no room or little room for effective stimulus. beyond that if we did have policy tools, this white house fund mentally does not have a plan and do not have competent personnel in place to develop a plan. >> maggie, let's talk more about that. right now the president is tweeting stuff he is watching on fox news or fox business, i guess, i guess now he's turning to fox business for more specific things to tweet about but as jim acosta pointed out attacking the fed chairman and tweeting what the people with interestingly died hair on fox business are talking about does not -- that's not a policy.

>> look, kathryn put it well. there is no plan when they declares that china is a currency manipulator that freaked out investors and supporters. when he does these tweets, when he makes the moves, they are not according to a game plan. >> not strategy. >> it's very hard with -- it is very hard to ask the rest of the world to live with you in these ten-minute increments of time and that's what he's doing and playing a game of roulette with the economy. these moves confounded supporters outside the white house and some inside that think he is creating more of an ora of instability than necessary and that is going to prohibit investment going forward. >> it doesn't help if you look at the economic brain trust surrounding this president you have a guy who plays an economist on tv and one who is an economist disowned by the profession and producer of leg go batman. those are the people advising this president on economics.

the only competent makers are over at the federal reserve. >> leg go batman was pretty good. >> whatever it's creative march -- merits. >> a good movie. >> and a chief executive with a long history of running things into bankruptcy. we're monitoring the breaking news in philadelphia. six police officers shot and wounded non-life threatening. shooter or shots remain in stand off. shots have been fired or have up until 20 minutes ago which is the last time we heard about the commissioner of police. astonishing comments about i can't believe i'm going to say this, rape and insist from a house member already on thin ice within his party, already said racist and outrageous things. this is just completely i would say unbelievable but you know what? it's, what, wednesday? i'll talk with the former republican colleague of his and get reaction to all of this.

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six officers have been shot. the shooter is still or shooters, the police aren't sure is apparently barricaded in a house. we want to bring to your attention comments from iowa congressman steve king. the controversial faces calls to resign tonight after his stunning comments about rape and incest. the pressure is coming from democrats and republicans like liz chaney the third highest ranking house member describes his remarks as appalling and bizarre. today in front of an iowa audience, king questioned whether there would be any population left if not for rape and insist. and incest. part of his case for banning abortions including those involving rape and insist. -- incest. listen.

>> rape and incest whether any population of the world left if we did that considering the wars and rape taking place and whatever happened to culture after society? i can't certify i'm not part of a product of that. >> spends a lot of time thinking about rape and incest. months ago the house gop stripped king of committee assignments defending white supremacy and said he was misquoted back then and he wasn't. with me now, kirsten powers and former republican congressman charlie denn. i don't know what the question would be but yet again, you know, here is steve king talking and saying just stuff that's unbelievable. >> yeah, yeah, well, you know, he was according to a website, in iowa. he was confronted by a constituent. who was a schoolteacher who said

that i heard your comments earlier. said i have a 10-year-old student so are you saying that 10-year-old should have to carry that pregnancy to term. a student raped by her uncle. he according to the reporting was taken aback and said i never heard such an extreme case. of course, there was a case that is national news about an 11-year-old in ohio who was raped by a 26-year-old who got pregnant when there was the heart beat bill that passed. so he does not even follow news and he can opine whether there should be rape or incest question. exception. these decisions should not be made by people like steve king. these decisions should be made by the person who is affected by it and i think that this explanation he has given us, this sort of a historical explanation we're products of rape and incest really doesn't cut it. >> you worked with congressman

king in the house in private is he as offensive as he is seemingly willingly in public and i'm just wondering what you make of these latest comments. >> well, on a personal level he can be friendly but these remarks are just so outlandish. they are out of bounds, out of control. you wonder if he's out of his mind. you know, this brings back, you know, the todd aiken moments, roy moore and trent franks who made similarly ridiculous comments about rape or women, and what happens now is of course other republicans get tagged by the democrats with these kinds of outrageous remarks. just as republicans tag democrats when the squad or democratic socialists say something absurd. that's what is happening. and frankly, i've been through this enough. i was there when people were talking about these legitimate rape, forcible rape, rapes reported within 48 hours, incest should be illegal against minors

but not against an 18-year-old. ridiculous things and the party has to get away from this stuff because it's killing us among women in this country particularly suburban women and hurting us recruit republican women candidates. >> go ahead. >> i think it's killing you among sane people. it's not just women, and the problem with, you know, however nice he is in private, he in addition to these kinds of comments, he has a long history of racist comments. you know, i mean, really -- it's gone on for so long, it's gone on as long as i've been following him in the news and this is something that the republican party has tolerated and even to invoke the squad as if they could even be anywhere in the same realm of steve king, i mean, we can argue separately if they should even, you know, if any of the criticisms are valid against them. if they were, you cannot mention them in the same breath with steve king and the republican

party has gone after these women, you know, who are referred to as the squad, you know, for making a comment here, a comment there. this is a man who has a long record, you know, of making racist comments. he has been open about his racism and now he is talking about just saying crazy things. i don't know what else to call this. crazy things about one of the worst things that could happen to a woman or to a girl to have to face an unwanted pregnancy that is the result of either being raped by a family member, or by another person. >> yeah, i mean, congressman, does it surprise you that he continues to get reelected? i know it's clearly a conservative area but, you know, there are sensible people. >> i've always been surprised he's been able to hang on. he represents western iowa.

a conservative area. this is an overwhelming republican constituency but he's had tight races. he has a very serious primary now because of this and other issues and i agree. this is out of bounds. this is crazy. and i think most republicans want him to go away. that means they want him to resign. he's not going to do that. that he defrocked him. he's won and it's surprising to me that he has but i think he's finally going to probably at the end of the line this time, i think they will get him in the primary. >> we'll see. thank you, kirsten powers. more breaking news out of philadelphia. police in the stand off at least one suspect after six officers were shot, we'll have the latest.

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again, breaking news from philadelphia after six police officers were shot and wounded. i want to go to jason carroll on the scene and evan perez in washington. so jason, when this first started there were reports of continued gunfire. those gunfire went on for at least three hours according to the twitter reports by police. are you -- has there been more recent gunfire since they spoke? >> it's been a lull but just about two blocks down the road there, the activity very much thick there. the building in question is actually a row house. on the left side of your screen and police negotiators are trying to interact with the suspect there but they have been

met by gunfire in the past and now been met by silence. just a bit of a ticktock, recap, it was just about 4:35 that's when officers came to the screen trying to serve a warrant, narcotics officers responded and met by gunfire. some of the officers had to jump out of windows to get away from the gunfire then the calls came in. calls coming in for backup, more officers, swat came down. philadelphia police came down here, as well. swat coming in as the suspect continued to fire. then the calls came in about officers being injured. first it was two then four. then it was five. now six officers injured. their injuries not said to be life threatening. we're told a seventh offer was injured trying to get out here at the scene caught up in an accident. his injuries said not to be life threatening, as well. well all of that is going on, police were trying to engage with the suspect.

the suspect returning fire over and over again. at one point we got a report that two officers were inside and are still said to be inside barricaded inside that row house with three prisoners that they are holding. so what you have at this point is the standoff is still underway. police still trying to engage with this suspect. the suspect returning fire but for the last 40 minutes or about an hour or so, they have been met with silence. anderson? >> when you say engage, they have been trying to talk to and verbally engage. to get this guy out. or there maybe two people. they're not willing to say it's just one person? >> that's correct. at this point they are trying to give out as much information as they can without giving away too much information at the same time for reasons that we can all understand. but once again, at this point you got a lot of people out here. heavy police presence that's still out here and again, as it

gets darker, it gets harder to engage to see what's actually going on but the wait is on as we wait to continue to see what happens next. >> we'll continue to come back to you and talk, evan, just from a -- i'm wondering if you're hearing anything else and the fact that they still don't know or can't say whether it's one shooter or two, you know, usually early on people in active shooter situations, people say it's two, based on eyewitnesss and those are confused eyewitnesss. it's interesting they are still not sure exactly what they are dealing with. >> right. it gives you a sense of how much of a tactical advantage the shooter or shooters have here. i mean, they know the layout of this building. by now i'm sure the police pulled some of the blueprints for this building so they know what they possibly could be dealing with. but, you know, this is an urban environment. there are people, landlords who make alterations and not report it to the city. they have to take that into consideration before they try to

enter this building and of course, you have the additional complication of two officers who appear to still be barricaded inside that building. now, according to the police commissioner in the last hour, he said that they believe that those officers are fine. they have to -- they perhaps have some kind of way to communicate with those people but, you know, that makes things a lot more complicated. the fact it night fall anderson makes it perhaps more tactically advantage for the police because they have gear to operate in the dark. >> yeah, jason carroll on the scene, evan perez in d.c. monitoring. check in with both of you. up next, one on one with stephen colbert, what late night is like in the trump era. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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in this age of president trump and tensely polarizing politics, we need some comedic relief. enter stephen colbert. his master of the art of making us last has pole vaulted him to the top of late night tv. satire takes serious work, so how does his show keep up with this ever changing news cycle.

i went to visit him today in new york city for a very long conversation. we're going to play part of it tonight and most of it tomorrow. we started talking about the debate around immigration and one of if immigration spokesmen. at this point he said, give me your tired and poor who can stand on their own two feet. and it will not become a public charge. and he claimed the poem referred to people coming from europe. that's where my conversation with stephen start. >> ken cuccinelli -- >> oh, my god. i blame you for ken cuccinelli. >> he was on cnn. >> a lot. i didn't watch much when he was on because there's a -- i love your show. every night i come home, my wife and i have a glass of wine, handful of nuts, my wife and i watch anderson, and go to bed.

and there are a few panelists that i just can't -- i got to skip over. i got to skip over. >> what's amazing -- >> was there anything you ever asked him and thought, i'm going to get an honest answer? >> his answers are very thought out in terms of the grammatical structure of them and can be confusing which i think is part of the strategy. if any other person in an administration -- a prior administration has rewritten the words of the poem which presidents from time immemorial have quoted with great reverence, it would be an outrage. people's heads would explode because it's a fundamental bedrock marker of who we are. >> yes. there's our physical

constitution and then there's our physical bill of rights, the physical declaration of independence, but there's this emotion constitution that we all share that makes us all americans and one of them is things like the poem that's on the statue of liberty. we're constantly being told by this administration, you don't see what you see, you don't hear what you hear, now they're saying you don't feel what you feel. you don't actually feel that. >> and you -- >> you don't actually believe that this is a nation of immigrants. >> you called president trump a heretic to reality. >> the greatest sin is actually -- not only are you a stray from the right path, you're inviting, encouraging other people to come with you on that path. >> and the punishment -- >> and i think it's red-hot fire

coffins, i think that's the level of hell that they're in, so it's pretty bad. >> doesn't get much worse -- >> the worst spa treatment. and he -- our president wants to live in a fantasy world where only the way he perceives the world is the way it is, and he's also trying to convince us that that is the only world that exists. but he's also trying to invite us into this madness that he has and that's heresy against reality. that's speaking for the most selfish instincts that all people have. he is not appealing to the better angels of our nature. >> the thesis of your show has become hey, you're not crazy. >> right. >> the audience is not crazy. how you feel, is actually how you feel, what you see is actually happening, what you hear is actually what he said.

>> even though you're in comedy -- >> we do five nights a week. >> and whatever -- you know, in comedy, you normally people spend all day or in some cases if they only have one show a week, all week writing the material and thinking it and honing it, you have to change stuff 15 minutes before air, five minutes before air. >> we have an idea of what the show is going to be in the morning, what the things people are talking about. we want to talk about what people are talking about. i'm not here to educate the audience, i'm here to give our opinion. it's like a long editorial. that can all be thrown out the window, even though we have a general plan starting at 10:30 in the morning. it's only accelerating. >> it also feels --

>> at 4:30 -- 4:45, 5:00, somebody could say, chopper talk. the president is standing in front of marine one. he should just stand in front of a margarita maker because it's the same noise. >> the pace of it, i do think -- i think about the people who work in the white house, i think president trump, you know, dorothy parker said those to born to the storm find the calm very boring. i think that chaos is -- >> he creates his own storm. he takes a big bucket of sea water, throws it in his face and says, i'm a sea captain, we're going to hide it out, boys. he wants that. >> i always think about everybody around him just how exhausting it must be to be in that orbit. >> i -- >> they choose to do it. >> every person who leaves says, god, it was crazy in there. >> would you want to have trump on your show again?

>> the quick answer would be no because i -- it would be hard for me to be properly respectful of the office because i think that he is so disrespectful of the office, it's very hard to perceive him as i want to perceive a president. so i think just for safety sake, it wouldn't be a good idea. >> and that was just part of the interview, as i said, i think it was about hour and ten minutes that we spoke. and some of it stopped me in my tracks. he's got a lot to say about grief and loss and surviving and being a good human being which he is. make sure to catch our special tomorrow night with the host of the late show, 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. we're keeping a close eye on what is happening in philadelphia where an active standoff is under way. six officers have been shot and wounded. nonlife-threatening we're told. they don't know if it's one or two shooters inside, barricaded