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they essentially went to the retailers and shamed them. lowe's, home depot saying you are selling a product that killeds dozen of people. you have got to stop doing it. many retailers stopped doing it. subsequently the government banned it at the retail level but you can still buy it commercially. it is still out there. there is a weird nuance where they want to leave it out there. >> they say it is okay to buy commercially, just individuals can't buy night hear the. that product, again a product we know is lethal, has killed 64 people, is still available at the commercial level. >> sanjay, thank you. incredible report. watch cnn's special report, a toxic tale tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. it is very important. only here on : folks these changes have real effects. look forward to seeing that. first the news continues. i hand it over to chris cuomo fore cuomo primetime. >> i am chris cuomo. welcome to primetime. the president keeps talking and
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the markets keep tanking. more tariffs on china. more pain for us, especially the farmers. more demonizing, more division this. president's toxic tongue is galvanizing the left. people in his own party are getting worried. will you really go for four more years of this? we will have a debate on that. and we have mayor pete buttegeig here to make the case he is the better deal for you as president of the united states and he has a plan to present on one of our most pressing problems, mental health reform. we also have more info for you on one of the wildest interviews of my young career. the former ceo of overstock claimed that the fbi directed him to pursue a relationship with an accused russian agent, maia boo tina. we are hearing from her side. we have reporting from a lot of different aspects, the x, y, and
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zs that patrick bern laid out on this show. busy night. what do you say? let's get of a it. the president calls himself the chosen one, to take on china. and now he says starting october 1st, more tariffs. beijing is going to be hiked up now from 25 to 30% on $250 billion in goods. separate threat. another $300 billion in imports could also wind up costing americans more. this trade war is worsening. recession fears are going to be on the back end of that. our first guest says this economy is not working for most americans. he could do better. and he could be better than this president. what would the mayor, pete buttegeig do to be better? let's test the democratic hopeful. mr. mayor, thank you very much for joining you on primetime.
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>> thanks. good to be with you. >> big event today. the president taking direct action on china, tariff, tarvegs the stock market. provocative talk saying he didn't know who the bigger enemy is, the fed reserve board chief, powell or the president of china. your take on the actions? >> first of all, attacking your fellow americans or trying to blame the fed for the instability that he himself has created doesn't make any sense. also it is clear that there is not an actual strategy for dealing with china. you can
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>> there is nothing strong about this. a person who is strong doesn't feel the need to avoid criticism by surrounding himself with sycophants. it is like the loud mouthed guy at the end of the bar. that's generally not the strongest person you know. just the loudest. that's what we have in terms of the style of this president. the problem is, that's starting to have real consequences. when he is tweeting and lashing out in this erratic fashion, it is destabilizing markets, and it is making america look less and less credible. even as some of the major
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economies of the world gather to deal with serious issues, from stability and global economic markets to the fires in the amazon that are threatening our kplimt and threatening the future. >> do you think it is just style? or do you think that the kinds of things that he's saying speak to a different type of character flaw or instability? >> well, i will say this. there is something deeply wrong. i don't know what's more disturbing, the fact that he was serious when he was talking about buying greenland or the fact that he was joking when he was talking about the medal of honor. these are not the characteristics of a steady and strong leader. we have got to remember that our lives literally depend at all times on the wisdom and judgment of the american president. but it is not just -- we can't always allow him to change the subject with this wild talk. we have got talk about an america after trump. we have got to talk about where we are actually going to take this country, how to set up an economy that actually works for
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most of us. because while we are rightly concerned about an upcoming recession it is going to take specific actions to make sure that whether there is an expansion or recession we get wams growing and finally get american families to feel their incomes are keeping up or ahead of the costs offed case, house asking health care. >> now on the solution side, he has been talking about mental health as a proxy for a solution on gun violence. i do not believe that mental health is the root problem with gun violence in this country. suicide by gun? sure, we have got to look at managing it. we don't treat mental health the right way. but in terms of mass shootings in school we see people who have signs and misgivings of mismanaged health care. overall the mentally ill are more likely to be victims than perpetrators. you have a plan. what is it? and why? >> our plan is to deliver mental health knowing it has reached crisis levels in america.
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you are right, it should of the no be used to do nothing about gun vie lens. that message is a disservice to gun safety and mental health. what we know are mental health and addiction are threatening the well-being of so many people in america. something like one in five people will experience a serious mental health challenge in their lifetimes. wouldn't know it because we still talk about it like it is an issue just affecting a handful of people. my action plan has the potential to save 1 million lives. >> how? >> over the next decade. that's how many people we would save if we cut in half the people who die from deaths from despair. suicide drugs and alcohol. how do we do it? support communities that are putting together with community plans with $10 billion a year for grants in cities like mine and smaller communities, too, that have done remarkable work tailored to their own reality on doing everything to supporting those who fall into the addiction between when you are
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resuscitated from an i don't have dose and when somebody can actually see you for an overdose. and law enforcement and teachers, making sure they get the resources they need. we need a three digit national suicide hotline. the national suicide prevention hotline does tremendous work. but if we simplified it to the a number everybody could remember they can save even more lives. we have got to recognize this is not only a issue of mental health care in the clinical accepts, the reasons why we need to enforcement health parity in insurance plans so they treat mental health just like they do physical health. it is not just about the mental side. it is will belonging. i believe they turn to direct examination and alcohol. i believe the rise in deaths
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from despair stems as much from that. >> we have gone a long way to where we used to look up to our elected leaders. it would be nice if we got back to that. that's how i grew up in my family. saw my father and my brothers service as tremendous symbols of honor and service from the family. people are disaffected now. that's why the talk matters. many people leave the way this president talks that's just politics these days. on the policy said he said today american businesses find alternatives to china. that's what i say must happen. one, in america -- that's what china does, they tell state-owned industry what to do. you don't do that in america. what do you think of the suggestion that american businesses should look other places in china? you saw how the street responded today. 600-plus points down. >> this idea of ordering american companies, telling them what to do shows that the president does not understand
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the presidency. this does go to the way that words matter. look one thing i learned very quickly as mayor is when you are an executive in government, whether mayor or president you don't have one job. you have three. one of them is to implement good policies. another one is to competently manage your administration. the third is to set the tone, to find the words torque call people to their highest values, and to unify people. this president is obviously not unifying people. he is one of the most devisive and polarizing we have ever had. also it smacks of desperation for him to believe he can sit there with his smart phone and order multinational companies to change the way that they organize their business. we should absolutely have policies that encourage our companies to buy american and to support american businesses up and down their supply chains. he could lead by example on the private side just making sure his hats and ties are actually made in marry. >> good point. but as we see time and again, this president does what's good for him, whether it is with his speak or how he deals with his
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own business interests. let me ask you something, in house, within the democratic party,set molton dropped out today. a veteran, solid guy. he says i believe in the country and the mission but this is a three-way race. you don't think so. you are been raising money, you are at 5% in the solid detective tier. but you are having trouble resonating with african-american voters. i know you are trying, i know you must be frustrated by it. why aren't those number changing with the african-american voters? in the democratic party you need them. >> that's not just to win. it is in order to govern, in order to deserve to win. what we have learned is that the douglas plan i put together gets a phenomenal response with all audiences especially when we are working with black audiences. i also have to get out there, get known and sell it. a lot of the black voters i talk
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to feel disaffected and feel like they have been taken for granted by political parties and politicians. i suspect a lot of them will not fully decide to commit to somebody until very late in the game. we are working in terms of building the right diverse teaman our staff and doing high-profile visits to conferences and low key off the record conversations with faith leaders and activists sometimes behind the scenes when we are traveling to make sure we build up those relationships. when i think those relationships will matter more and more in the weeks and months to come. even if most of the voters we are talking about won't fully commit until perhaps a few days or weeks before the vote? i don't have to tell you that being nowhere in the polls with that demographic is a challenge for you. but it doesn't mean you are not going to get opportunities on this show. we have a lot of diversity in our audience. we are always going to invite people in the conversation on the democratic side on this show to make their case to our audience. thank you for taking that opportunity today, mayor pete
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buttegeig. >> appreciate the chance to be with you. good night. >> we will keep having people who want to be your president on to discuss their ideas. one of the main. >> caller: has to be rebutting this president's case to you, the american people, about who we are and who we are not. his toxic tongue matters. it is not just style anymore. there is too much animus in society because of what he says. too much violence. too many dangerous actions taken in furtherance of his talk. it is just not okay anymore. if someone wants to be our president they have to address it. i hereby order a great debate on exactly this subject with these two fine minds and beautiful americans. next. ♪ relaxing guitar
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we are trying to do the show day-by-day and let's look at it in the decision we have to make in the next election if we are talking politics. economics has political rltsz, especially today. the u.s. economy is slowing. it doesn't many it is weak. it is just not the strongest ever. the proof of it is that this president keeps hammering the new chosen scapegoat the fed chairman jerome powell. remember you don't need rate changes like he is bashing this guy to make. today he labeled the fed chief an enemy. i don't know why i am laughing. on twitter he said who is our
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bigger enemy, jay powell, the fed chief or chairman xi of china? that's the start of tonight's great debate. christine quinn, niger innis. i literally often have regrets niger that i have got to put you in this position. but you have free will. you are here. christine indulge me just one second. >> okay. >> i have to believe that there are no two sides to the idea that this talk is toxic. niger? it can't be seen by you as helpful to the cause of our democracy, our markets, our any trade deal with china, what he said today. are you with me? >> it is -- no. i am not with you. it is not the first time that a commander in chief, the president of the united states has tried to influence a federal reserve chairman. allan greenspan was on early whier this week another network and when asked were you privately pressured by a president of the united states, we know greenspan served from
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reagan to clinton, he said yes, i was pressured. >> you are correct. you also know that is a b.s. answer to my question. >> no -- >> this is not about private pressure. this is about public attacks and likening him to an auto accurate who is a danger to free society. >> i will agree -- you christine and i will agree that to compare him, powell, our fed chairman, to xi is going a little bit too far. >> a little bit too far. >> little bit. >> a little bit too far? >> but there is no question that powell raised rates too quickly and too high after -- >> that's an economic argument. i argue this all the time. >> i have zero interest rates. >> that doesn't make him an enemy of the state. this is why you shouldn't be smiling. not niger. i love i think. >>er, love having him on the show. i don't understand how you ignore the ferocity of what he is doing. it is not just talk. he acts on it.
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then the tariffs are going to kick our farmers asss and hurt our markets. you know it. christine, where are you guys on this? where is your positive opposite? where is your message that recognize with passion the outrage that you should be feeling about what he's saying as the president of the united states, not some crazy radio host, and showing that you have got somebody who is better, stronger, and ready to lead these people to a better place? >> look, you see robust democratic primary going on with people. >> you are fighting about crazy medicare plans and you can't each describe -- >> you just had mayor pete on talking sound economic policy. but there is also the emergency of now that the democratic primary and the election can't fix. this is a right now problem what this president is doing. and you are right, chris, it is hitting farmers, and truck drivers, and the very americans he made promises to. look what he said about ethanol. they are now losing money. and again, the president wants to distract us by his bullying
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and his name calling and his bad behavior. the reality is the fed chair can take care of himself. but you know who is really getting hurt is those working men and women, particularly in the middle of the country, and the consumers who will pay for this. the president needs to be held accountable. and you are right, each democrat running for president, and leader -- speaking pelosi and leader schumer, et cetera all have to come out and fight. >> i don't want to see them shaking their finger nobody thinks they are better than he is. >> i don't know about that. >> we are both around people. in the radio show and my life i am dealing with dozens of states. people expect nothing from politicians, ferveity, perversity and bad behavior and bad language. someone has got to show them it can be better. >> i am sorry you feel that way. >> that's what i am told. >> hundreds and hundreds are showing up for the democratic candidates and supporting congressional candidates and
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others have a belief that we can and will do better. but we have to hold the president accountability. >> we will see. >> we will see the better. >> i don't think you are the dispositive part of the change niger i think you are. real conservatives within your party you don't talk like this guy does. don't say he's from, no. that's insulting the my entire state. someone like him and me we can act like jack asss every once in a while. only one of the two of us will own it. he is from, no, that's part of your disposition. he's not a street fighter. when are you going the say you can't talk like this anymore? when are you going to end up where anthony scaramucci is. >> i won't end up there. >> a perverse sense of loyalty to a guy who is nothing like what you or your father were like. >> what i will say is that the president has a responsibility 20 talk about the war that we are engaged in right now. it is more than a trade war. we are in a de facto cold war with china. the fact of the matter is is that china -- we took a gam
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number the late '80s and early ipts. >>. it was a bipartisan. gaible, democrats and republicans that if we bring china in from under the cold get them into the global international market somehow they would liberalize their democratic policies. >> they have not. >> they haven't. they cleaned our clock with trade, with currency manipulation, and intellectual property threat. and he is the first president in 30 days doing something about it. >> he is not making it better. >> he has to frame it. >> he has to frame to it the american people and has to tell them yes, in battle, in wars, which is what we are in, a de facto cold war with china. >> you have got to be a -- >> for long term gain. >> you have to have a plan to win aer with a. you don't just go into and it start a tight with somebody who is holding so much of your corporate paper who has control over its own economy and who has tools in their box ready to create fixes that woe don't
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have, especially what he is trying to do with powell and the rate juicing, christine what do you have that's better? >> good leaders in war try to minimize collateral damage. the tweeting, the poking at china. the trade war with china. all that has done is caused the collateral damage of the markets to plummet, money streaming out of the pockets of farmers and truck drivers and consumers. and all of the four indicators that last september the president stood up and said everything is great are now trending downward. he's not leading us in a war to victory. he's leading us in some war inside his head where he is constantly the chief and the winner when the collateral damage is america. >> look we will see what happens. >> christine, that battle, that democrat and republican presidents have failed to fight for 30 years and it is long overdue. >> niger. >> no. >> here's the problem with your argument. yes, you are right, he is doing something. but doing something isn't an automatic positive. he did something in iran.
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he got us out of the deal. you no they are running all over the region doing all kinds of krauz crazy stuff unfettered. and your allies are pissed off at you because they worked hard on that deal and now they are not dying to come back to the table. just because you did something doesn't mean you made it better. i want to ask you something because i want to move on. this is an open question. we don't have enough for the reporti reporting. if these questions about par scale, his campaign manager, if they independent would up yielding information that shows that he's doing things he should not, do you believe this president will cut ties or do you think he will fight for him and say this is a bad system and wiped up digging in on that? it could become an issue for him. >> this is -- this is the first time i am actually hearing about it. i need research it more. >> questions, we don't know enough. there have been charges against him that are probably not fair at this point. but if it is true. if the answers aren't satisfying, is this a challenge for the president?
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>> it is -- of course. if what you are saying is the case and i have no doubt that it is, then i have to say it is a challenge for the president. but the president has proven at least initially to be loyal to be loyal to people that are closest to him. >> right. >> that's a good quality not a bad. >> you have to be loyal to the law and to the truth especially as commander in chief. i want the audience to know, i know you all read lots of stuff. these are questions. we don't know enough for answers. >> how is draining that swamp going. >> all the best. so far he hasn't had great track record. we will see what happens. christine quinn, niger innis thank you. as you know we had a guest on this show last night and he leveled some heavy heavy games cleanse the u.s. government he was the ceo of overstock. that is a legit company, it was close to a billion dollar company after a couple of rough years edge radio. now he says he was directed by the fbi to hook up with an accused russian agent. here's a taste.
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ifls specifically told this request is come from jim comey at the request of somebody. do not assume it was president obama. do not assume that. >> he gave him his say. we gave him his say, and then we had to do the reporting on it. we have new information. we also have maria puttina's lawyer here. we are going to bring the lawyer in. what do they know? what do they think? and the responses were relevant parties. next. but it is here. thanks, captain obvious. don't hate-like their trip,
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comey and his former deputy andrew mccabe and the attorney for peter strzok are all saying that patrick byrne's claims that he helped the fbi carry out a political espionage with their knowledge or direction while dating accused agent maria butina is false. here's what the overstock ceo told us last night. >> they said, the honorable men
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and women, the men in black, they said we want to be clear, this never happens in the united states. we are the good guys. we don't work like the bad guys but we need to ask you to
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in about the next hour, president trump leaves for the g7 summit in france. and there is nothing this president loves more than high minded multilateral meetings with other world leaders. kidding. he hates these things, which is weird seeing how it is such a big part of the job of being our face to the world. but he is caught up right now in a cycle of self interest. and he hasn't exactly endeared
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himself to the rest of the g7 crew. just this week, he threatened to dump isis fighters in two of the g7 countries. so let's get some perspective on what this means in the frame of the election efforts. chris issi lizza what is your number of the week? why? >> it is one. as in america first, chris. the reason for that is because donald trump hads the g7. he hates going to it. we have got reporting today that says he doesn't really want to go. doesn't understand the point of it. he doesn't get along with the people there. remember, and i think we have this photo. remember the photo. this was from quebec last year. angela merkel, the german chancellor perturbed at trump. everyone waiting around on trump, trump object city nanltd. he said everything was great.
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it was fine. he left before the climate change conversation and refused to sign the communique, the broad agreement that comes out after these things. first time since 1975 when all didn't sign the communique. this year, there isn't going to be a communique, one reason for that. donald trump. >> one of the reasons is he doesn't like who is not there, he wants the g7 to be the g 8 again. >> a remarkable thing. this is a very wide ranging to be kind to him press conference he gave earlier this week before flying the kentucky. he talked about russia. they were in the g 8 before they annexed crimea. and then they were ousted and they went down to the g7. here's what he said about it. president putin totally outsmarted president obama on crimea and other things. lug the red line in the sand. all right? he outsmarted. he made a living on outsmarting president obama. >> whether it is this or whether
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it is the powell and xi -- whether it is anything he says it all has to be looked at through the same lens and people have to judge it once they see it this way, which is he says it because he thinks it is good for him. it is the only norm he follows. >> at least if you believe in donald trump keeping had he is base together it is good for him. cnn poll earlier this month, 30% overall -- 40% overall rating, 89%. his base is not enough, not big enough to get him reelected. >> when are they going to say i6 to get better than what's coming out this man's mouth? chris, i like the number of the week thing. >> good. >> i say we do it again. we already have the graphic made. >> we built the graphic. >> chris, thank you for making us better and smarter. have a great weekend. i love you.
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trump supporters, listen, i get that you say i will take the talk because i don't expect much from politicians because i like the results. really? i think to have to take a look at what is going on just today, and make a call about what you deserve as an american citizen. closing afgt next. -- closing argument next. what about him? let's do it. ♪ come on. this summer, add a new member to the family. hurry in and lease the glc 300 suv for just $419 a month with credit toward your first month's payment at the mercedes-benz summer event. going on now.
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a little real talking. we all get politics is often about trash talk, even. i'll stipulate that this president likes to be provocative. it messes with the media and gets him a lot of attention. there's also a point at which what he is saying is inherently abnormal and a dereliction of his duty. his oath is to faithfully execute the office of the president. his oath is to preserve and protect the constitution. i argue that he's not doing either. he clearly thinks this economy is shaky. that's okay. but that's the only reason that he's attacking the fed chief powell. you can argue powell raised the rates too fast and too much, but if the economy is so strong, it shouldn't matter, and certainly
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can't warrant this. the president of the united states calling the fed chair an enemy and likening him to someone else he says is an enemy, a guy he's trying to cut a deal with right now, chinese president xi. this statement is a metaphor for the mess the president is making. puppets say this is him being a street fighter. that's a pathetic excuse for bad behavior. too many like graham, even some of the media refuse to call it out because this president could be such a dangerous enemy. fine. the truth is the president's mouth is a threat to this country. comparing the fed chief to the ruler of china, a man who has eliminated term limit for his presidency. his country oppresses millions of muslims. he carries out detention and torture. tv and the internet are censored. critics are arrested, and this
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president is going to equate him with a guy who just won't raise rates enough, a public servant in the united states. the sick part is why he's doing this. it's just because both these men represent what he doesn't want. they won't do what he wants. he literally doesn't care that one is an oh possessive autocrat, but he consistently is not bothered by december pits and can't stop talk like one himself. i get why just his running his mouth this way might be excused by some of you. you've got low expectations of politics, and you'll say i just look at what he does. that's all i care. i don't like his style, but here's my argument. his foul mouth is just the stench of a real wound. so he announces more tariffs on top of china's tariffs. see, that's more pain for the american consumer. and it is not better leverage for him to get this deal done.
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they're telling you that. ask for truth. it's more pain for your 401 k. down more than 600 points today. why don't the farmers like it? why don't the manufacturers like it? he doesn't just run his mouth about a fake brown menace. he pushes to put kids in cages. to round up migrants working illegally, but not their employers, like him, even though the employers break the law just as much as people who enter illegally, just as he broke the law at his clubs and still does. he wants to remove a constitutional protection of bifrt right citizenship. how's that preserving the constitution? he wants to end the promise of taking the tired and poor. his people literally say to your face that poem on the statue of liberty is just words. it's not policy. thank god the generations that built this country, those that came freely, didn't know that. they weren't told that. or else a lot of us wouldn't be
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here. he doesn't just talk about islam being evil. he acts on it. he doesn't want them to come in. he tries to ban them. he doesn't just soft pedal an objection to white supremacy. he refuses to call their murdering ways terrorism. critics say the emperor wears no clothes. especially this week. the president was pissing all over denmark the ally over not being sold greenland. he's not naked. he has a tie on from china. everything about him is not invisible. it's obvious. his words are not just talk. they are the poisonous precur sur of divisive and dangerous actions. we are way too focussed on who is us and who is them, and that's because of him. this is a country that owes its very existence and survival to unity and the destiny of diversity. he may be right about being the
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chosen one, however. because i argue he is the one chosen at this time to make you decide what you want your country to be about. this country is a leaving, breathing, tweeting example of a very different america than the one that made us great. and you will choose and look at everything that happens through that lens. thank you very much for watching us. the premier of the cnn special report, a toxic tale, trump's environmental impact, is next.
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