tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 26, 2019 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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so the agent h-bomb stands for hurricanes. president trump asked about the possibility of using nuclear explosion to stop hurricanes was in some ways the least remarkable piece of news to emerge in the g-7 on the coast of france which wrapped up earlier today. kind of like trying to buy greenland where it was told it is not for sale. he's legitimately outlandish so much, to take it too seriously would be too mind blowing. you move on and you play past
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it. tonight there are far more from that summit that could not be brushed aside easily. it all came out in a series of encould wa enkoun encounters and we'll talk about i it all. then the president suggested he may have regrets about them and his then his staffs said no, his only regret was not being tougher. this morning he got less tough. the situation has not devolve in the last few days as far as we could tell. the two countries are apparently still talking. at what level it remains at a dispute. here is the president this morning. >> we had many calls.
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over the last 48 hours, we had many calls and it is not just one. these are not just calls, these are high level deals. >> the chinese were saying -- >> the chinese are not saying that. numerous calls. >> again, the chinese foreign minister were not aware of any specific calls in their briefings this morning. mnuchin says there has only been communications. raising questions about whether the president embellish his account. he did have no question clearly embellish this. >> first lady gotten to know with kim jong-un. i think she would agree with me that he's a man with a country
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that has tremendous potential. >> she has never met the north korean dictator, ever. a spokesperson says because the president confides in the first lady so much, he feels she has come to know kim, too. as for other dictators that the first lady has met, took the deck tater si dictator side of things. here is what he said about vladimir putin. listen to how he explains what russia did as he argues the case to invite putin back. >> so he should be in. they were really it was president obama -- i am not blaming him. a lot of bad things happen with president putin and president obama. one of the things that happened was as you know what happened with a very big area, a very big and important area in the middle east where the red line was
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drawn and president obama decided that he was not going to do anything about it. you can't draw red line in the sand and you can't do it. the other was in ukraine having to do a certain section with the ukraine that you know very well. s t it was take cn away from president obama. >> he took it away from ukraine and was penalized by the g-7 including the united states. those are fact that is the president disregard and in fay more vor favorof the story he told the world. president obama was not happy that this happened because it was embarrassing for him. that was his determination. he was out smarted. he was out smarted.
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president putin out smarted president obama. i can understand how president obama would feel. he was not happy. >> again, that's factually untrue as was this. >> mr. president were you able to attend the working session on climate earlier? >> yeah, we have not. >> by the time the president said that, the meeting already taken place as you heard. >> his press secretary e explaining it, the president has scheduled meetings and bilateral meeting in india. you should believe her or not this lying eyes and this video shows germany. in the meeting that he skipped and right there is the empty spot set aside for him. as he says no one knows more about it than him about climate
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change. >> i am an environmentalist, a lot of people don't understand that. i have done more environmental impact staples probably anybody, i can say definitely. i have done many, many of them. more than anybody ever been president or vice president or anything close to president. i think i know more about the environment than most people. >> it makes you a potential polluter who has to show authorities how you plan to build something without hurting the environment. something like a golf course or as the president sees it the sig site of next year's summit. >> we have not made a final decision. it is right next to the airport right there, meaning a few minutes away. it is a great place. it got tremendous acreage. many hundreds of acreages.
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it has 50 to 70 units so each delegation can have its own building. you have various allegations that can have their own building. they can have building of the press. it is big and great conference rooms. we are thinking about it. they love the location of the hotel and they like the fact that it is next to the airport, the convenience >> wow, from the sound of that you would think the president was back in private life plugging one of his properties, you would be right. >> he is. the trump national doral country club. somehow of all the summit locations in the entire country, the single best one is the one that the president and his family own. the one that has not been doing so well and could use as boost. it got tremendous acreage. and get this, its got a hotel.
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i mean how did that happen? a hotel and an airport near by, too. not that the president is concerned has his own aide reportedly in addition to appearing a massive conflict of interest, it actually would be one. he says he's the one who's making the sacrifice. >> i will tell you what, a combination of loss and opportunity, probably will cost me anywhere from 3 billion or $5 billion to be president. the only thing i care about is this country. i could not have careless. people have asked me what do you think it costs, between opportunities of not doing things. now i get speeches all the time. you know what i get? zipo. nothing. >> doral is a hurricane country.
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joining us, retired admiral john kirby who served as state and defense and former republican candidate, rick santorum. he's currently a cnn commentator and kirsten powell for "usa today." admiral, you have been on trips like this before. what do world leaders take away when they see the president do this. the string of falsehoods and staples that drift off. what's the take away for these leaders. >> my guess is and diplomats i talked to, reenforces for them a few they come to have the last couple of years that he can't be relied upon and as an american leadersh leadership. quite frankly, they are working around president trump the united states, you saw that play
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out at g-7. >> kirsten. to me the small lies are almost in explicable than the big lies. why say your wife have come to know kim jong-un and grew fond of him when the two never met. why does he do that in what's the impact of that? >> what does it tell you that he does that? >> the question is does he think she met him. that's what comes to my mind. is it something that's not necessarily a lie or is he fused or dids he believe it happened? i think the biggest problem is it is an embarrassment to the united states. watching that press conference, you know, as john kirby was talking about. the other leaders are looking at
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this and seeing this and they can't possibly take it seriously. i would assume it causes them a lot of concerns. the united states has been a country that has had an important role in terms of leadership in the world. >> senate ersan to ror santorum big things at risk right now. number one is that trade war that the president is in with china. do you have any question from friday to today? from friday when he threatened to increase tariffs and he called president xi, the enemy of the united states to today he seems to be looking for a way to deescalate and pull back. do you think the president is backing off? >> well, i think the president is responding to the chinese vice chair, they don't want i p
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i believe the president has done a good job in getting china to the table here. a lot of administrations have had the opportunity to take on china and republicans and democrats for decades know that china is infiltrating and stealing our technology through espionage. they are bad actors on the stage. i don't blame president obama had a recession or president bush chb bush. president clinton, he had a great opportunity to take on china and he didn't do it. this is the right time to take on china. is it going to have an impact on the u.s. economy? probably some. when you have record growth that this is the time toe take a
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little hit. the president is doing that. i give him marks for trying it. >> i don't think anyone is arguing that china is a bad actor. the discussion is whether the president's method was the effective way to move china for that and also who's paying for it, kirsten? >> no. the question is look, if it worked, i think and i don't think anybody would support it. china is a problem and has been a problem for a long time. clinton administration did do a lot of things to china. it is a topnotch question. how is this going to make things better? the impact on the economy potentially putting us into a recession, it is a pretty steep price to pay. >> and i don't think we are anywhere near a recession. i think this economy is still very, very strong. we had almost over 3% growth.
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if it knocks it down to 2%. we are back to where president obama was for a year. let's look at the reality that the president is doing something. maybe untraditional and i understand that people don't like some of the tactics. he's out wardly fighting the chinese and we'll wait and see whether we can get that agreement of 150 page agreement back on the table to stop china from doing it. >> theone of the things the president said today when asked directly the fact you called xi an enemy on monday and today he's a great friend. that's the way it is. >> i don't know anything about negotiation trade deals. this is the whiplash effect and what's making the market so uncertain and unsteady. also, it is frankly warning our allies and partners. back to what we were talking about a few minutes ago, i agree that president trump and the administration had it tougher on china. i applaud with china and of
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these operations. i think he would have found a very welcome audience to some of these ideas at the g-7 if he had taken the opportunity. he didn't do that tchlt , he we france with no agenda at all and let macron and others run it. yes, they're worried of the trade war and tariffs and i understand that. there are other things with respect to china that the europe agreed with him on and of the south china sea. he missed an opportunity to broaden this discussion with china. it would have been sympathetic to some of those moves. >> do you think emanuel macron is breathing a sigh of relief and glad it is over. >> i think he's probably patting himself on the back. he handled president trump
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masterly. he pulled them away. i think when it comes to iran, he got president trump to say he's still willing to meet with rouhani and issue any idea of regime change in teheran. i think especially on iran, macron should be commended for what he got president trump to sign up to. >> thank you very much. senator and kirsten, stick around. we got much more for you. i want to talk about the next g-7 at the president's golf course. george w. bush's lawyer joins us for that. could it be a warning sign for joe biden of a boost for elizabeth warren. ♪ feels like i'm taking flight. ♪ [sfx: poof] [sfx: squeaking eraser sound effect.] ♪ i am who i wanna be ♪ who i wanna be ♪ who i wanna be. ♪ i'm a strong individual
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trump's resort. >> you will have a list because they'll give a presentation very soon. they went to places all over the country and they came back and they said this is where they would like to be. we have military people doing it and secret service people doing it and we had people really understand what it is about. it is not about me. it is about getting the right location. it is really porimportant. >> joining us is richard painter, he currently teaches at the university of minnesota. richard, i want to start with you, you think the president hosting the g-7 at his own resort would be illegal and violating ting emoulument claus. >> and two federal district
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courts have determined the emoulment clause. this would be illegal if he takes any money for hotel rooms for food or beverages or golfing or anything else. it is a clear violation of the united states of constitution. second, he's using his presidency to promote his own business. that's a conflict of interest entirely apart from the emoulment clause. this is a president who shows no interest in the key topics of the g-7 meeting including climate change. he's not willing to attend meeting. he does not want to show up for serious discussions but want to use this to taut his business. it is an embarrassment for the united states that this is going
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on. >> what about just being swampy? >> i don't agree with the third point that was made. i think the first two-points are legitimate points. the fact is the president should not be doing this. i hope this is the last time he mentions it. if anybody who did suggest it to him, i mean it is remarkable that someone would suggest that would be held at at doral. again, i hope that's not true. if it is true, i hope they put an end to it quickly. >> rick, if someone were to come to you, white house staffer or the president himself, hey, let's hold the g-7 at doral. >> hell no.
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>> what is it telling you that the president is entertaining us. >> i think there is good and bad that comes with everybody. this is one of the things that i sort of scratch my head and wonder why the president does not see the con fliflicts of interests and again, i am disappointed that he even brought it up and i hope it is the last that we hear from it. >> i don't think it is the last that we'll hear. i can almost guarantee it is not the last. >> yeah, i find it a little hard to believe that some secret service people came up with this idea. i think the president probably came up with the idea. it is to your point even if it was completely legal or on the up and up. it would be inappropriate. it would be very swampy. you are supposed to ask the president to be completely above approach and you should not be
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trying to financially benefit from a meeting, an official meeting of the united states. >> richard, how is this different in just so people understand this and the distinction here. george w. bush hosted world leaders at crawford and different presidents hosted people at their homes. what makes this difference? >> george w. bush did not charge rent to foreign government at crawford. if donald trump wants to comp everybody and invite them in free of charge or whatever entertainments he provides, i guess it would not violate the emolument clause. they want to use the facility and have the foreign government pay for it. that's a direct violation of the
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e emolument clause. >> there is one thing that has a bipartisan impact in any campaign or with either party and that's when a candidate has distin a stink of trying to pass his or her own pocket. it could hurt a kancandidate no matter what party they are in. >> i am sure it will be one of the many things they focus on but i think that people -- i don't think it is a secret. this is who donald trump is. so much of what he does is constantly with an eye towards making money if he can figure out a way to profit off the presidency. his family can profit off the
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presidency now or in the future. a lot of things he does with bizarre relationships with various world le's leaders withs future business interests. it is something they should focus on. i don't think it is a center piece but it is something that entirely problematic. >> the reality is, doral is not doing well. why? a lot of people don't like donald trump particularly in the corporate world and they're not using this facility. the president paid the price. that's a story to be told, too. he does not do himself any good by doing things like this and like i said, mr. president, stop. >> what does it tell you about his priority, rick, that he can't stop? >> he's a promoter and that's what he does and who he is. it is inappropriate, he should not do it. i don't think this president, i disagree with kirsten tch. i don't think he's here to make money off the presidency.
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i think he's losing money. it is an important job and he should focus on. >> go ahead kirsten. >> if he's losing money, it is his own fault. you don't lose money just because you are the president. you lose president because you say racist things, for example, or you accuse all the jews voting for democrats for being disloyal. these are the kinds of things he alienates people with. >> all right, rick. we'll have to go. we'll take it up during the break. rick santorum, thank you for being with us and richard painter. president trump has landed. he'll be deplane momentarily. it is not impossible that he'll speak to cameras upon leaving the plane shortly. it does not happen often but who knows with the way this trip has
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still the movement does bear a closer look. joining us for that, vance jones. host of cnn's "vance jones show." if you base this election on electability, how concerned are you that there are this poll which does not show you win it which was supposed to be his thing. >> it is not a good poll for biden. listen, first of all, look at the progressive block. when you put sanders and warren together, that's half the party going for candidates that are extremely progressive. this kind of cuts against the idea that people may be recalculating. what makes someone electable.
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the traditional wisdom has been you are electable when you are appeal to moderates. i think now you are starting to see people make the case. it is going to be somebody that are electable. you got to be able to bring new people in or get them to come to the poll and under that rational suddenly, elizabeth warren is looking attractive and bernie sanders is able to hang on. if i were in the biden camp, i would be concerned of the fact that right now he's holding his own in the top three against a whole bunch of other people. look at that progress ive block. >> let's talk about elizabeth warren. there is focus on the crowd. crowd size does not mean the person is generating tons of votes. she had some 15,000 in a rally and a lot of people are showing
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up top elizabeth warren's events. this shows her consistently inches up. what does it tell isn't it tryo? >> she's the most interesting person. she slipped on the banana pocahontas four or five times. people were not talking about warren several months ago. she is able to claw her way back and people are excited about elizabeth warren. the rock, on the season premier of ballers was reading an elizabeth warren's book. that given you how far she's broken into tit. she's not making enemies or mistakes. she's really doing something
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extraordinary right now. >> the warren/sanders. you call it a block. i happen to think that their coalition don't line up one to one. i think that bernie sanders does better with non-college white men and she does better with women. how long do you think they can survive this mutual non-aggression pact they have right now? >> look, i don't know. it can't last forever. they're benefiting from each other because they are stretching out the window of idea. they're stretching out the over tuned window where ideas are off the table. four year os or six years ago. they both been pulling on that end of the rope together. at a certain point, they have to turn around, right now they're doing all of that to the detrimental to all the moderates. the moderates have to voo divide
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pie up. you do see some movement from cory booker starting to climb and creep a little bit there. that's interesting. everything else, it lacooks lik it is the summer of elizabeth warren. >> the last question. the cut-off for the next debate, we'll have ten candidates. do you think that's where the race is now or fewer at this point? >> right now those top three or four. something amazing would have to happen to change that. >> vance jones, great to have you. >> great to be here. >> we'll switch side. a new republican candidate wants to unseat president trump. at one time he supported president trump. i am going to speak to joe walsh next. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, little things can be a big deal.
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that reads in part quote "i have a right to call president obama a muslim." a month later he wrote "obama got elected because he is black and not because he accomplished anything in 2016." >> joining us now with joe walsh, congressman, thank you for being with us. we had a chance to talk a lot in the last two weeks and you apologized for the past statements. which is notable. i want to ask you this question though. why do you think people who overlook four past and your rhetoric and not the president. >> probably the last six years, i tweeted 40,000 times. there are a few hundred tweet that is you and i would scratch our heads about. i don't apologize for every tweet. those tweets at the beginning, i am a big free speech supporters
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and i uphold political correctness. i have the right to say wheite people are this or christians are this. to your broader point, no, everything i have tweeted i own. if there is a tweet that i need to apologize for, john, i will. i will own it and regret it. you said today that you tweeted racist things in the past but you don't think it makes you a racist? >> no, john. i think we are all a little bit racis racist. we have all said racist things. if you and i went through everybody twitter feeds that we'll find things that are offensive. i know when i look back at some of my tweets over the years because i was so out spoken. yes, i have tweeted some racist things, on purpose? no. i didn't say that because i meant it. whites are privilege.
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i use that as an example with any racial group. i don't believe that the point i was making in america, you should have the right to say -- >> you are what you pretend to be so be careful what you pretend to be. i think some people may look at it and say it is too cute. you a i apologizpologized and e that. we look at your campaign website for policy positions and there is not much up there of anything in the policy right now. policy wise, how would you be different than president trump? >> it is as great question. understand remember i am running against trump because he's morally unfit, period. it is about trump. it is not about the issues. on the issues, i believe in a wall which trump has not built a wall. >> again, i don't believe trump is anywhere to the left or right. trump is only about trump.
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i went to washington ten years ago to do something about the deficits. this president is increasing the debt more than obama did. >> would you back off his tactic cut? >> yes, that was a horrible tax cut. i believe in cutting taxes, that's a bad tax cut. i would have given payroll tax cuts. tariffs are a horrible policy. everybody is being hurt by this tariff right now. i believe in balance budgets. >> you have been in the race for 24 hours or 36 hours? you are a conservative, radio, talk show host and i have a hard time believing that your audience will like the idea that you are running against the president. what's the impact on your radio show? >> 80% to 90% of my audience
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supports the president. i found out i lost my national radio show. i figure that may happen. >> you lost it why? >> i just got a notice before i came into the studio. i am running for president, most of my listeners support the president. it is not an easy thing to do to be in conservative talk radio. i know that when i made the announcement yesterday it could be in jeopardy. >> mo >> no more radio show for you? >> no more. but it is okay i am going to campaign full-time. i believe it is urgent and the president is a danger and we can't let him elected. >> joe walsh, thank you for coming in tonight. a landmark ruling, a judge finds a major company responsible for one state's opioid crisis.
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million for pushing doctors to prescribe opioids and downplay the risk of addiction. actions that the state said it helped fuel the opioid crisis, we're talking about johnson & johnson, which also has a pharmaceutical division, and johnson & johnson has denied any wrongdoing. i want calls the judge's decision flawed and will appeal the ruling. chris cuomo joins us now with more on this and a preview of what's coming up on "cuomo prime time." let me ask you this. johnson & johnson says that their product is government approved and fda regulated, so why, then, are they being charged and forced to pay a fine over it? >> well, there two answers to that. the answer, in fact, is because the judge found in oklahoma they violated the state nuisance law. and there's a very interesting reckoning of it. obviously, the judge accepted the attorney general, the state's case that nuisance law doesn't have to be in the
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and the environmental foundation created in part by actor leonardo dicaprio has pledged $5 million. meanwhile, cnn's nick paton walsh's team recorded this video during an areal tour of the fire. brazilian officials say every minute the fires destroy one and a half soccer fields. nick paton walsh joins us now with the very latest. so, nick, you've seen how bad it is. how can anyone begin to tackle this? >> reporter: well, it is extraordinary. often, you can't see the problem because of how dense the smoke is. and we flew over areas that we have only reached by getting over them in a plane. there are no roads connecting them. so this operation, when it gets under way, and we see brazilian military cargo planes above us is going to have to be enormous or perhaps depend on some sort of natural response that is massive rain that is supposed to drop over here.
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they need massive support. there's been drops of it and supporters of president jay bolsonaro have tried to suggest on social media that that might be tackling the problem, but it simply won't. 34,000 troops here will need massive additional support. brazil has been willing to accept israeli help, but it seems to be shunning the $20 million or so that the world's seven richest nations managed to scramble together. a pretty pitiful sum. not sure that will even be allowed into the country. >> shunning the $20 million. they don't want the $20 million? >> reporter: it seems that way. he didn't specifically say that, but in a speech he gave to journalists, he was very angry at the media and also at president emmanuel macron, with whom he'd been in a bit of a spat all day, ever since the brazilian president commented on an offensive meme about the french president's wife, and the french president said hopefully brazil would get a president up to the job. no real love between brazil and paris. the question moving forward is whether that stops brazil from letting people in who might help tackle the fires. you get the sense that brazil is trying to downplay the problem at this point, but also plays to bolsonaro's base. >> why are the fires so bad right now? >> some say it's particularly bad because of the dry season, but most activists and most scientists who have looked at
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this problem outside of brazilian government circles say very clearly, this is down to deforestation. this is because so much land has been cleared, so much license has been given to forests to create agricultural land that, in fact, that's dried the ground out, kept less moisture in it, and made it more susceptible to fires if they occur. and others say, too, fires are the first step in deforestation, burn the land, clear it, put cattle on it, make your money and your sell your beef. there's a process happening that could permanently damage the ecosystem of the amazon. we all depend on it for our oxygen. is it reaching a tipping point where the damage caused becomes irrevocable and causes a self-fulfilling cycle of fires every year. >> thank you so much for being there and showing us what's
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