tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 30, 2019 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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those under arrest. alice is suing her bail bond company, part of a class-action lawsu lawsuit. jim? >> thanks and thank you for joining us. hope you have a great holiday weekend. "ac 360" starts right now. the storm is getting stronger and could go stronger still. that much we know. the two key questions now, where will hurricane dorian hit and what will it do after it does. john berman in for anderson. we seen dorian go from a tropical storm to a hurricane that could reach a category four. with many at risk tonight, those questions could mean their world or their lives. we just got new data in. let's go to tom sater. walk me through the new forecast and what does it tell us about what the storm is doing now? >> in the latest advisory, when
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a pressure drops, the storm gets stronger and once that pressure drops, the winds pick up. we just seen a 20 milibar drop. that's the greatest drop of pressure between one advisory and the next since the birth of dorian. at this time last night, it was a category one expecting at 11:00 p.m. last night to become a two and did. last night it was a three and we're all most at cat four now. that pressure dropped, increased winds to 125 miles per hour. that's only five miles per hour away from category four status and one way to know this before it occurs is we've all seen radar and you see a well-defined eye but an eye on a satellite imagery, you know that motor is firing on all cylinders. see the white color? this is breathing and again, that fuel line really soaking up some of the extremely warm water
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that will only get warmer. a different change today, the hurricane watches for the bahamas increased in some areas to warnings. i suspect by tomorrow morning we're going to have hurricane watches for the coast of florida. other changes have occurred and pretty much the track and this is important. i know everybody has been saying is there any hope, is there any ray of hope, there is a ray, i mean, it's not the entire hope sunshine shining down but all of the models showing consistency and right now, still showing a landfall with a category four. that's catastrophic damage. i want to back up to what it looked like earlier when the several miles we use, we talk about the u.s. model in red and the european model have pros and cons. european sometimes is more reliable but sometimes we just make an agreement between the two. two days ago, it was up in jacksonville and dropped down to the south and shooting across areas into the gulf, and then the european model put on the brakes and we thought whoa, what
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is happening here? when the storms put on the brakes, it allows the surrounding environment to decide all right, we have time, where will we push this? this is the same time period with the u.s. model at 8:00 p.m. tuesday and south of melbourne. sebastian and then you got the europeans, same time period, 8:00 p.m. tuesday almost on the same latitude but offshore. here is our ray of hope now. the national hurricane center is issuing its now warning and i'll show you the path. let's put the two together, in blue is the european pmodel underneath it. watch what happens. this is not going to be written in stone but the only guidance we have and it's been changing day to day and it could easily change again. american model landfall. european model offshore and it's staying offshore.
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there is your ray of hope. the trend is eastward. instead of up to the north crossing into the gulf down to the south, let's see what happens when we merge the two and that's what the national hurricane center has done. still landfall a category four. remember three years ago? matthew came in and raked a 1 a pretty much along the coastline. this however john if we get in closer could be disastrous because the population since andrew in '92, last time we had a major hurricane is significant on the east coast. if this happens, it's close enough to the water to feed. it continues as a four to a three, stays as a hurricane category two to the north. dropping heavy amounts of rain on a ground that's already completely saturated. so again, we're going to continue to watch these. they could change but the ray of hope we've been waiting for may be that trend we'll push it further away. that was record rainfall flooding and of course, the carolinas.
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that wasn't good. >> not good for the carolinas. something to hope for for florida. thank you very much. for much more, let's go to the source. the national hurricane center. ed rapoport joins us now. this new forecast is what you expected to see has the change, has the storm changed in any way? >> well, the storm has changed in the last few hours in terms of the intensity. earlier today we reached category three status and now it's close to category four. we increased the wind and the advisory and most recent advisory by ten miles per hour. one 25 miles per hour and as you've been talking about, it's really not so much the intensity that's in question, it's the track of the hurricane and we have one model offshore and another one is on the shoreline, today, yesterday was almost reversed. so i don't think what we need to do now is focus too much. in the long run, at this point it's way too soon to know what
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the impacts are going to be. we're telling people, everybody in the state of florida and it may make a turn on the coast or just in land. everybody has about a day, day and a half to complete preparations and that's what we're advising at this point. >> just to be clear, you're talking about a possible storm that runs the entire gammit of the east coast up to jacksonville and a second direct impact from jacksonville, correct? >> yeah, here is the forecast track and get ready to be familiar with what we're doing. these are the points over the next five days. roughly every 12 to 24 hours. so the center is forecasted to come up to the coast and turn just about the time it gets to the coast. we don't know whether it will be there or barely inland offshore. those are details we don't know and won't know yet for another day or maybe even day and a half. they are very important but at
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this point without knowing those details, with having this uncertainty, it's important for everybody to prepare along the florida coast. >> talk to me about the water here. the king tide extremely high tides coupled with a storm surge, which i understand could be even bigger if the storm slows down, yes? >> yes. one thing that's fortunate for the east coast of florida is that the storm surge occurs here isn't as high as it can be in other places and thefe fekeffec tide isn't as great. the affects of a high tide through multiple cycles will exacerbate the conditions. for the next 12 to 24 hours don't have the amount yet in what type of surge to expect but storms in the past brought a surge of ten feet or higher to the florida east coast. >> all right. thank you so much for being with us. the key measure is don't pay as close attention to the tracks
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now as paying attention to getting yourself ready and prepare fd yd if you live anywhn the coast of florida. thank you. >> thank you. we'll have much more on the storm prep and as we began reporting last night, floridians are taking this seriously. the governor asked for and received a pledge of federal disaster assistance. highway express lanes are reconfigured to help evacuations go more smoothly and people have been boarding up and stocking up. randi kaye joins us from home depot in west palm beach. what has it been like that today. >> they have seemed to be. it's been busy since tuesday. they put florida on that hurricane map. people have been pouring in trying to get supplies. i spoke to an employee at this home depot and he told me they have done a week's worth of business today in just one day. so really now it's coming down to the wire for these folks.
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floridians have been through this. they know how to prepare. what they are looking for now it seems tonight mainly is plywood, john. let me show you what the shelves look like. they are empty. you see them? that's usually plywood stacked up and if you come over here to this side, in this aisle, this is what is going on. plywood has now just come in. a truck has just delivered it and they aren't bothering it to put it on shelves because it goes so fast. if you can pan here, these are empty and keep panning, there is the line of folks waiting to get plywood. that's how busy this is. they are looking for tarps, flashlights, propane, batteries, generators of course. they are out of generators here. luckily, they are not out of plywood. another thing that people are told is to have at least three to seven days worth of water. they want one gallon per person for every three days here in the state of florida. that is what is ideal. they don't have any water here and they don't expect to have any water in this store for at
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least another day or so. so that is the situation here, john. i went to other big supply stores yesterday trying to get water for our crew as we are preparing for the hurricane and i could get a few bottles. i went at 7:00 a.m. again this morning trying to get more water, there was already a line at this supermarket and most of the water was already gone, john? >> hopefully they will get more shipments in. for the people you're speaking with, do they plan to ride it out or leave? >> a lot are riding the storm out. you looked at the models, it's unclear where this storm is going to hit. so people are saying well, if i live on the does and then i go inland, what if it hits inland? they don't know where to go because right now the whole state is in danger, all 67 counties they declared a state of emergency. so i mean, i know i spoke to my neighbors riding out the storm on a high floor and high rise building. my brother here in florida riding out the storm with his family. most of the folks getting plywood are riding out the storm with their families.
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we ran into this gentleman here, car carlos who is riding out the storm. is this your plywood? >> it is. >> you came back for more or this is all you need? >> we planned this about four or five days ago but ran four or five sheets short. we ran by and grateful they have it. >> you planned in advance. >> yeah. >> and you're going to ride out the storm and be around with your family? you're not going to leave the state. >> i work as a firefighter along with my son so we're both going to be on duty starting tomorrow. but the idea behind it is to leave our families secure so we're used to it. we've been doing it for awhile. >> how many hurricanes have you been through here? >> i guess going back to katrina, probably the worst of it. we rode that one out. we weren't hit quite as bad during katrina because we were further north. >> there is no evacuation order in place. you have the freedom to ride it out? >> yeah. i'm very secure in our home and
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everything we've done and the preparations. my family will be okay and i know that we got to go out and do what we have to do to help everybody else's family during the storm. >> so many people, john, riding it out. look at this line. one more quick pan here to get plywood to board up their home and stay home and be safe as they do so. we'll continue to watch it here at home depot and hopefully they won't run out of plywood tonight. >> feels like the center of the universe. it's not clear where it would be safe to go at this point. they have to wait for the forecast to be updated. randi kaye, thank you so much. let's go daytona beach where the mayor derrick henry joins us now. thank you so much for being with us. i'm sure you've been looking at the current forecast along based on what you see, what are you most concerned about? >> people in our area are hunkering down. we do not have full clarity at this time.
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as we gain more, we can act with greater assurance what it is we should do as a municipality and to take care of our individual families. >> some of the decisions on evacuations for the state are difficult because of the uncertainty around this storm. do you have any plans to evacuate the island section of daytona beach? >> well, right now, our police and i will join them on tomorrow are out sharing with residents on those islands and encouraging them that if such evacuation mandate comes forward to heed the warning and to accept it so at this time, of course, we do not know as i said earlier. we have to wait for greater clarity and at that time we'll get out and try to encourage residents to take advice. >> so mayor, as of now, the hospitals in your area are planning to stay open. is there any feeling that could change with the emergency services? will they be responding to calls during the storm? >> the plan is never to respond
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during the storm once it gets over a certain wind threshold so we encourage folks to hunker down, be prepared, be vigilant and get into the eye of the storm. we do not plan to go out and do many rescues. >> to the residents of daytona bea beach, it is holiday weekend. what do you want to say to them tonight? >> be smart. be vigilant. be prepared. but above all, be safe. we recognize that it is a holiday weekend but life takes precedence over pleasure at this time and we are used to this as a municipality. i encourage folks to put forth their best effort to take care of themselves and their families. >> be safe, please let us know how we can help and thank you for taking the time. all our best in the coming days. >> thank you. next, the president weighs
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in on this storm and the question why he fired one of his closest aids, the one who probably sees him more than anyone day to day. later, you'll meet a texas woman who says when it comes to the possibility of the president taking her land to build his border wall right smack through her property, she's drawing the line. we call it the mother standard of care.
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president trump will be monitoring events from camp david this weekend. he spoke to reports on his way to marine one. >> we have fema, we have first responders, we have tremendous law enforcement. we're working together with governor desantis and the state. we're also, by the way, i have to tell you, georgia is very much in this path, also. georgia could be very much affected. we're working with our great governor of georgia. we have our top people there, and it's really, really been
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amazing. >> the president also spoke about the sudden departure of his personal assistant madeleine. apparently some of the things she said to reporters behind closed doors. kaitlan collins has reporting on that but i want to start off with the storm and what the president had to say about it. >> going to camp david. that's where he's going to monitor the developments throughout the weekend and will coal ba come back to washington on sunday where he'll do a briefing at the fema head quarters and make decisions whether people need to be evacuated. a lot of the people surrounding him through the storm are officials who are not confirmed to their positions. for one, the fema administrator is an acting person because the person the president nominated still hasn't been confirmed and of course, his dhs secretary has not been confirmed, either and is still in an acting position.
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the other thing the president is not worried about is mar-a-lago. his golf resort in palm beach the president said based on the briefings he received is in the direct path of the storm. he said he's not worried about it. he thinks it's strong and will be fine. he's more concerned overall with the state of florida. >> so the president was also asked about the sudden resignation of madeleine, his personal assistant. what did he have to say about that? >> she's not a household name but her departure last night was abrupt and sent shock waves throughout the west wing. he had spoken to hermi minutes before he came out following the off the record dinner she had white house officials said she shared intimate information about the president. >> i guess she said, i think she said some things and she called me, she was very upset. she was very down, and she said she was drinking a little bit,
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and she was with reporters, and everything she said was off the record and that still doesn't really cover for it, mentioned a couple things about my children, but she is a very, you know, good person and i thought -- i always felt she did a good job. >> now, john, the president was asked about what was reportedly critical statements the president had made about tiffany trump and whether or not he had actually said those things. he denied it. he praised his youngest daughter. when i asked him had madeleine been fired because the language had been she made this abrupt departure, the president said he didn't want to say fired or not fired but said the decision after learning what she said about his children was automatic for him. >> fired. which is understandable in this case. can you explain her role? i guess it's not so much about influence as proximity. >> right. her office is right outside the oval office. she's someone that's extremely close to him.
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one of very few staffers that sits that close and watches who goes in and out of the oval office every day but has access to sensitive information, including the president's schedule and daily activities and traveled with him a lot. more than that, she was seen as the gate keeper to the president because you'll take to several lawmakers or allies of the president outside administration that said when they needed to speak to the president or having a meeting with him, they called madeleine first. they are lamenting this void they say will be in the administration without her presence here but the president made clear it does not sound like she's coming back any time soon, john. >> caitlkaitlan collins, thank for your reporting. perspective from two cnn political commentators. spokesperson for the 2016 clinton campaign and scott jennings, special assistant to george w. bush. you come from opposite sides of the isle here but nod in agreement, i think you probably do agree on this, which is that madeleine broke one of the cardinal rules of working in the white house.
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you don't talk about the family, correct? >> absolutely. >> scott? >> yeah, it's bad idea. >> more specifically, she should have known better, correct? >> absolutely. i can tell you having -- i worked in the clinton administration and had, you know, both for president clinton and then first lady hillary clinton and there -- i would -- first of all, i can't imagine ever saying anything like that and certainly, you know, there have been times when i was a press staffer, right? if i went out for an off the record dinner with reporters, the aid -- the person who was the president's aid or the first lady's aid, they didn't generally come to be perfectly honest. one of the rules is don't put yourself in this situation, and certainly, the moment she, you know, she clearly, it sounds like she said something that somebody who was at the dinner then tried to get more in information about it. maybe that's part of how it came
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out. i also always tell people because the off the record, on the record, technically, off the record you should never hear about it again but those rules have slid a bit and you never want to say something that's particular ll lly off the recor >> you don't generally hear people say things about the president's family. scott, your view on this? >> i mean, there is a couple issues here. this position -- every position in the white house requires great judgment and you have to just have discretion. but this one in particular, you see people coming and going. you're connecting gt presidethe president's calls and that includes seeing him interacting with his family. you're a repost tory for these private moments. to talk about that is an error in judgment. you can drink and you can talk to reporters but when you do it at the same time, this is a huge no-no. i'm sort of puzzled why anyone would put themselves in a situation to do that and like
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karen said, why are they arranging off the record dinners for reporters and somebody in this particular position? press staff fine, maybe policy staff fine. this isn't the person who would usually be put in that position and obviously, it came back to bite her and the white house and i hope she had a nice talk with the president. it sounded like he was trying to be nice to her on the way out but obviously, it's a no-brainer. you can't keep somebody around with that judgment. >> again, we talk about people that had this role before rosemary woods, for president clinton, karen, they know a lot. i mean, they know a lot. >> and you know a lot and there are many rules in the white house. scott was saying certainly if you sit right outside of the president's office, you know who is coming and going. you see the president's schedule. you have a sense of how he's spending his time, what calls he's getting clearly by the v virtue of this comment. whether it's true. that type of information. here is the things about these
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jobs in particular. the people you work for have to trust they can be themselves around you, do the job they have to do. there have to be some people who will keep those and once that trust is broken, there is -- you just can't get it back so i -- this is one of those situations where the second i heard about it, i thought to myself, there is no way this person can be anywhere in the white house because its just such a lapse in judgment. >> again, whether what she said was true or not, it's not something she could repeat and scott, the president has lost a lot of the people that he's been with over time at the white house. i mean, he's not surrounded by as many of the people that he trusts. what's the impact of that? >> yeah, there is a lot of coming and going and some people that worked in the white house are now on the campaign, i'm sure he's still interacting with them. in these positions where there are personal interactions, person aids, folks who have a
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material impact on how you run your day to day life. if you don't know them on the front end, you have to break in the relationship and build up the trust as karen was on with that and it doesn't happen overnight. when you're the president and you've got 100 meetings and phone calls and making decisions and a lot of high level stuff is happening and at the same time you're trying to break in the relationship with somebody new, it certainly provides i think some anxiety, weighs on your mind. number one, i think the president obviously made the right call in this position and i feel for him. this isn't the moment in your presidency you want to be breaking in a new personal aid because as the reporting said, this is the person who would connect all the president's calls at the congressional leaders, set the appointments. this person made his life easier and now he's got to find somebody else. i'm sure they will but it will take some time to collect that trust. >> karen, just quickly, family is an awkward thing in the white house. i mean, every president, every candidate has to deal with family in different ways. that being said, the president
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has hired some family. that's a different thing. >> right. >> but family can be awkward. >> oh my goodness, children. family can be awkward but children in particular, you never talk about the kids. you know, you -- and pets is the other thing. you don't talk about the pets. don't talk about the kids. the awkwardness of family, you know, look, here is the other thing very quickly. president trump is someone we know who demands loyalty. and so again, he clearly was sounded like he was trying to be gracious there but to speak at a school, if you work for someone like that and we've seen, you know, staffers not be treated so well on the way out you got to really have good judgment and know that certainly when you're talking about something so sensitive as someone's children, you know, don't do it. >> no matter what she heard or think she heard. >> that's right. >> karen, scott, thanks very much. scott, i want to note i hope people don't take your advice. drinking with reporters is okay.
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i don't want to drink alone for the rest of my life. >> do not listen to john berman. this is the worst idea. terrible. do not take his press relations advice. >> i'm a good guy to have a beer with. >> two drinks. >> you're buying next time. up next, we'll take you to the southern border where there is worry the trump administration will break the law to seize private land in order to build that long promised border wall. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved... ...90% clearer skin at 4 months... ...after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections... ...and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection... ...or symptoms such as fevers,... ...sweats, chills, muscle aches or coughs... ...or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. i feel free to bare my skin. visit skyrizi.com.
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along the border with mexico there are concerns the trump administration could seize property by imminent domain without compiling with the legalities this to fast track that long promised border wall, those concerns of course went into over drive after president trump offered aids pardons should they commit any illegal acts while pushing the wall construction? the white house said the president was joking. but it's no laughing matter at all for one texas woman that 360s gary tuchman spoke with whose land is smack dab on the boarder. here is his report. >> reporter: even before you meet ela hall you will know
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what's on her mind as you enter the property. >> it would be total destruction of my life. >> reporter: the 51-year-old mother of two lives in the tiny town of texas. there is no boarder wall on or near her three acres yet. when you heard this report and the white house doesn't deny it, they say president trump was joking when he was talking about pardoning people who started construction of the wall without following the legal regulations, environmental regulations. do you believe he could have been joking? >> why would he be joking? they are willing to break every law there is out there. >> she believes the president's words mean her property where she's lived for almost two decades could be taken by the government at any time for construction of a barrier. >> i cannot convey how angry i am. >> i'm standing right on the international boarder line adjacent to her property. this is the rio grande, doesn't look like it. because portions of it are dry this time of year. so it looks like it would be
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very easy to cross for mexico into the united states right now. but it's far from any major population centers. in 20 years, how many people have you seen grossicrossing? >> absolutely zero in this location, zero. i trip sensors all the time here and other places along the river and border patrol will magically appear in the middle of nowhere. i'm tripping sensors. the technology works. they don't need a wall. >> she says she was told this year by a border patrol supervisor that a wall was quote going to happen on they are property and throughout this area. after she heard that, she painted this on her roof and now the president's pardon comment has made her scared that her life may be about to change forever. the international border of the rio grande is 200 yards to the left but you've been told by a chief in this area it will happen and it could go through your land. they will seek to buy it or take
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it or put it to the north of your land, putting you in the middle of a that man's land, the wall would be there but the international would be there. could you live between two down countries? >> i would not leave. i can't leave. >> she's been worried about this possibility throughout the entire trump presidency. >> i don't think there is a day that's gone by since this started that i am not in tears at one point or another over all this. >> now that concern reached a much higher level. >> they will have to drag me off of here. i'm not leaving willingly. there is just no way. i can't leave my home. >> gary tuchman, cnn, texas. one congressman who hears a great deal about these concerns and represents the district where that woman lives is texas democrat henry.
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who do you say to the constint we -- constituents that might be afraid the president will take their land without going through the legal channels? >> i'm concerned that the president is even saying things like don't worry, if you get it done, even violate the law, i will parten you. whether he said that joking around or whatever way he said it, that's wrong. we have to respect private property rights. we have to respect private property rights. there are some of my constituents that owned land along the rio grande for so many generations and for the president to come in and say that he's going to take land is just the wrong way. if you look at the this, if the president gets all of the fencing he wants to get, all of the fencing in the state of texas for the first time in american history, we will have a president that will seat over $ 1.1 million acres and that is
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wrong. >> have you seen any evidence at this point that the administrat has started doing this to go around the imminent domain process? has it started happening yet in your district? >> well, you know, we're looking at that. today i'm in the southern part of my district and i've been hearing from folks they are starting to do surveys and get into properties to do the surveys. again, i don't know. this is something that we are going to investigate but the problem is, the president and administration have to respect the law. there is a thing called imminent domain you have to go through the courts and you have to respect the law. >> if they start going around the imminent domain process, what will you do? how will you help your constituents fight? >> certainly, two things. i mean, certainly i will be talking to the secretary of
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homeland kevin. he's a good man and i know that he will do everything to respect the law, talk to the local border patrol chiefs to make sure they understand the members of congress are watching and we don't want them to circumvent the law and of course, appropriations is another way. the problem is by the time we do appropriations, which could be by the end of the year in december, if there is any damage that could be done, that will be something. >> the reporting you mentioned from earlier this week that the president offered to pardon any official that might break the law and make sure a large portion of the wall is built. the white house says the president was joking but do you believe officials would actually do it? break the law for the president? >> you know, even joking around you shouldn't say that. the people that i know, the border patrol folks, chiefs that i know in the laredo sector, rio grande section down in this
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area, they are good men. they are good men that are trying to do their job. i don't think they would do that. and certainly i will make sure that we work together, that we follow the law but the men and women that i know that are serving down here, i know they are not going to do that. >> some of your colleagues say if the stories are true it constitutes an abuse of power by the president. is this something you think should be investigated? >> i mean, certainly. i mean, i think there are committees that will be looking into this, and again, we don't know, you know, he said it was a joke but again, you can't say that because there has been too many actions that after one and another that president keeps doing, if he jokes around we'll think it's true. i hope the president just understands that he's not joking around. you can't make fun of people that have had lands for those private property rights of
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we just received another update from the national hurricane center and hurricane dorian is a category four. that the a catastrophic hurricane. the concerns about that plus once in a year high tides are raising concerns about all of the low lying areas in and around miami which are already prone to flooding. c congresswoman donna served as the president of the university of miami and joins me now. congresswom congresswoman, thank you for being with us. the fact this could make landfall during a king tide, how concerned are you to the degree that could magnify the storm's impact? >> very concerned. already miami beach is flooding. we've already seen the initial effect of king tides which of course are the highest of the highest tides. so we're very concerned and we're preparing for the worst. >> how are you preparing?
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>> well, we're doing everything we can both the mayor of miami-dade county and the governor have already issued warnings in the community and everybody is gassing up they're boarding up their houses, they're putting their shutters in place. they're getting seven days of food and water because that's our estimate. this is going to go on for awhile from every evidence we have. it's not just going to be one hit. it's going to go on for two or three days. >> as of now, any evacuation orders planned? >> none so far. just preparations for everyone to stay in their own homes at the moment. i would not be surprised. i'll be at the operation center and see where we'll go from
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there. we're not very precise where it will hit. everyone has to be prepared. flori floridians, we know how to prepare. and that's exactly what we're doing. >> we just got word in people can see on the screen, we just got word there will be a mandatory evacuation order in some parts of brevard county. some are making that decision. despite what the president said, it's a local decision. evacuation orders are made at the local level, not the federal level. the storm has been difficult to preticket which is why i know local officials are waiting. just to be clear about the flooding, it doesn't have to be adirect hit on miami or
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miami-dade for there to be flooding. it's inevitable there will be serious flooding in these areas you know about, correct? >> there will be serious flooding and we've already had that experience. it's going on now. i'm as worried about the flooding as i am about the other direct hits from the hurricane. remember after hurricane andrew, this community and many of the communities in florida change their building codes. so we have much stronger building codes than we've ever had before but trees fall on houses and we have flooding across south florida and so we have to be prepared for everything. >> congresswoman, thank you for being with us tonight and getting that message out. hopefully people will heed the warning. up next, back to tom sater for more on the storm that has just become a category four hurricane. i can't believe it. that sophie opened up a wormhole through time?
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eye like this, we're still over 500 miles away from let's say the coast of florida, we've got a lot more warmer water to contend with. we go from the mid 80s to the upper 80s, and that's significant. here we are, currently at a category four. notice how it goes to three, then back to four. this is going to be a new track in two hours. what they're showing us here is the older track, but what is currently. at about 11:00 p.m., we're going to get a new track from the national hurricane center and it's going to be interesting to see. are we going to see a five moving into the area? a couple things to just recap this 8:00 p.m. advisory. what does this tell us? first and foremost, all of florida is still in that cone of uncertainty. as this storm continues to build, those strong winds, hurricane winds and tropical storm-force winds, it will continue to expand.
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those winds will be wide and her stronger. everyone is still involved here. the other thing to look at is when we get in closer, we're looking at a slow process of heavy, heavy, heavy rainfall. saturated ground. it's like trying to pour water into an empty bucket. now this bucket is full and we're going to dump a dump truck on it. and we have a possibility of it sliding off the coast and heading towards the east. he's the definition of category four, catastrophic damage will occur. power could be out for weeks or months and most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks. >> tom sater, thank you very much for joining us. stay with cnn, special coverage of hurricane dorian all weekend long.
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