"reliable sources" starts in a moment action but first the latest on hurricane dorian. a life-threatening situation unfolding right now on great abaco island on the bahamas. this is a category 5 storm with

sustained winds in excess of 175 miles an hour. that makes this the strongest storm 234anywhere on the planet this year. and just take a look at the image on your screen. you see an expanding eyewall moving straight towards great abaco island. it will be making landfall in the minutes ahead. and the national hurricane center is now warning residents on those islands that extreme winds, quote, from the eyewall of dorian in excess of 180 miles per hour will affect the islands in the next few hours. the national hurricane center center saying take cover now. we can show you the warnings box for the bahamas, also warnings up for parts of florida because this track remains uncertain. we know that the storm is slow going down will which cause more catastrophic damage to the bahamas. and there are some crackatiare

aces occurring in florida. allison chinchar has the latest. >> and unfortunately some of the numbers you gave have all since changed and not for the better. winds sustained now up to 180 miles an hour. the wind gusts are 220 miles per hour right now, the forward movement is still due west, but it has slowed ever so slightly now down to 7 miles per hour. but the storm itself is still intensifying. pressure continuing to drop with this particular storm and no weakening really in sight. there is nothing really around this area at play to help diminish the storm from where it currently is. we will keep a very close eye on where the track is because it is expected to maintain a category 5 strength as it moves across the bahamas. and begins to head towards florida. the ultimate question becomes when does it turn north. it will turn north, we just don't have a finite idea of when

it will turn north. so that becomes a question of what impacts are there to a place like florida. and in any subsequent area such as georgia and the carolinas as it continues up the east coast. brand new at the top of this hour, we now have hurricane watches and hurricane warning just along the east corner of portions of florida. we have already had the hurricane warnings across portions of the bahamas, that is going to stay. we are likely to see more hurricane watches, tropical storm warnings and things like that begin to to expand up the east coast of florida, perhaps even into other states once we determine when that storm makes that sharpen turn to the north. the majority of the tracks still do want to hover the east coast and go north. however, i would like to point out, the last couple of model runs, you do still have some that are trending further west. which is why the cone of uncertainty still keeps states like florida, georgia as well as

the carolinas in there because none of them can be ruled out at this point. >> seems like all the news is bad right now. this storm is growing in size and in wind speed. and according to the national hurricane center, this storm will just sit there and basically roil these islands in the bahamas for the better part of 36 hours? >> yes, and that is the unfortunate part. we expect to slow down. storm surge is expected to be about 15 to 20 feet across the xwams. y bahamas. where you talking 15, 20 inches of rainfall total across a widespread portion of these islan islands and those numbers could go up if it stalls everyone more because when it sits, it can dump more wr5i7b. we learned that from harvey and florence. >> alice son thank you so much. and this is a category 5

hurricane and we'll bring you the latest this hour and throughout the day here on cnn. ♪ ahead on "reliable sources," jeff write goldberg sharing hour james mattis really feels about president trump. >> plus another white house reporter heads to court fighting trump's decision to suspend his press pass. we'll get the latest on that lawsuit coming up. and later, wreck niding tre limits of journalism when it comes to cases like jeffrey epstein. but first, the most complicated relationship in quaug. one that affects all of us. it is trump and fox, fox and trump. the president gets his briefings from fox, he gets led by fox, often misled by fox. and he firms up his base through the network. but he has also been complaining about the network. in fact more than 20 times this year by my count.

this week he claims fox changed so much that the network, quote, isn't working for us anymore. what an even credincredible $5 . fox really thinks that trump longs to him and his supporters. fox really thinks that trump longs to him and his supporters. i think the anti-media messages lastly against fox and "post" and cnn reflect insecurity. with the re-election campaign 00 his mind, he doesn't want voters to know about the messy reality of life in the trump white house. he hates the leaks and he really hates when people especially on fox cover his democratic rivals. so he lashes out. he sees segments like this with the dnc 130s woman being interviewed on fox. his own spokesman was on the air a few minutes later, but he hated seeing the democratic spokeswoman. one minute promoting a book and next day saying that fox is so bad that we, again, we, have to

start looking for 00 new news outlet. and then what did he do the next day? he called in to fox news radio she. this is trump whiplash. caused by his impullisiveness a need for attention. look at what he said. >> i'm not happy with fox. people take fox -- they say fox is it for immediate. sean and laura and tucker has really been very good. i used to say you are a solid sikts, maybe six, maybe a seven, but you are getting much better. >> congrats, you are a nine now. here is what happens. when trump gets ticked off, his friends at the network try to remind him that all the highest rated shows on fox are the pro trump shows from pox and friefos to the ingram angle. and he heard that reminder he again and that led to this tweet

on saturday. he went out there congratulating sean hannity on his ratings. trump wants sick owe fans on the air, not reporters. he lashes out when he sees reporters on fox.owe fans on th air, not reporters. he lashes out when he sees reporters on fox. he wants shows that look like news but they are not really. they are blow trump cheer leading. trump wants absolute loyalty. maybe he thinks that needs to win re-election. but that is the truth about the fox/trump relationship. let's get analysis now from elaina plott, david zurawik and julia. julia, you have studied russia. does the way trump views fox remind you of how other leaders view their state run television networks? >> absolutely. only difference is that ton you

their tearian leaders are more subtle. they will just quietly fire people. but it is all the stuff that you mentioned, all 9 rotating door between the trump administration and fox news. you know, he would be forgiven for thinking that it is part of the white house and it is not running the way he wants it too. to. >> 00 preta pretty twisted relationship. he ralashes out when he sees ac of journalism on fox. >> and signs of a fraying of this relationship i think are there to a little bit, but i'm really skeptical of this. this is a dance that trump does. and fox does. don't forget, fox was founded as an i had i had yoe logical relation ship. that is so deep, so sick, so

twisted that they won't break up over having the democratic guest on or somebody saying unpleasant about trump. look, fox wants trump to be elected in 2000. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady.w20. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady.. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady.0. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady.0. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady.20. trump wants to be reelected in 2020. they will keep going steady. ? maybe that is why fox never comments when trump posts tweets. he is attacking journalists. but fox never comments. why do you think that is? >> well, it really is astounding because fox knows that it has the leverage in this relationship. i think that if donald trump were to try to command his supporters to, what, go start watching oann exclusively? no, it won't happen. so it is one of the few moments i think when you look at the president's dynamic with any

entity/person that they are the ones that actually hold the cards here and i think that fox will rest pretty comfortably that with an impulsive president, you know, as you pointed out, the whiplash means that his opinion will change the next day and they will stay the same. >> so fox is just waiting until the next day for his feelings to change. let me show you one sound bite that really sums up the week. joe walsh asks if the president has ever lied -- >> stewart, do you believe that this president lies? >> no. >> you didn't believe that he has ever lied? >> he exaggerates and spins. >> okay. do you leave he has ever told the american people a lie? >> no. >> okay. >> david, your reaction. >> you want state run tv behind the iron curtain in 1961? that is it.

it is astonishing. lou dobbs is the same and trump loves lou dobbs on that business channel. that is it. but that is one of the great -- that is an astonishing clip. you know, he thinks he is being smart by saying no, it is a spin. >> can i just add something? >> yeah, please. >> you know, you said that the president doesn't appreciate how journalism works. i think he does appreciate how journalism works. he hates it. and this is why he has said, you know, he said i try to discredit you people on purpose so that when you write unflattering things about me, no one will believe you. see understa so he understands completely it works and he twri he tries to a at the source. fox is how he wishes that it would work. >> destruction of a shared reality is the big story. all right. a quick break. everybody stick around. we've been talking about media on the right. let's talk about media on the

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talk to your doctor about mavyret. welcome back. a big question in media circles 24 week, what was lawrence owe do owe -- donele thinking? he said he had a source that said? of trump's loans had been co-signed by russian billionaires close to vladimir

putin. trumps lawyers threatened to sue and o'donnell was criticized for going on the air with this tip. so he retracted. but if you listen carefully, you will see that he also left wiggle room. watch. >> tonight we are retracting the story. we don't know whether theinaccu. but the fact is we do know it wasn't ready for broadcast and for that, i apologize. >> so how did it get on the air? we still don't know. msnbc and nbc news has not commented. and o'donnell was back on the air the next night so not seems that he was being disciplined from going on the air with this tip from a i thisingle source t was by all evidence incorrect. robert mueller spent two years

investigating trump and russia. he didn't find anything about these loans. there is no evidence that o'donnell was right about this story. and yet he is still out there saying we don't know if it was and i think really. david, how irresponsible is this? >> this is as irresponsible as it gets in terms of legacy journalism. you know, lawrence o'donnell 2k35 da gave donald trump ultimate greatest gift he could have given. and if you look at the way fox and friends talked about it, they started talking about ma nbc and by the time they were done, they were attacking cnn. and i'm going wait, how did you get to cnn on this?and by the t they were attacking cnn. and i'm going wait, how did you get to cnn on this? if there is a takeaway here, this is what happens when you hire politicos and let them host shows. no one with any journal policic

training would have come near this story. hey, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is, this was wish fulfillment journalism. russia oligarchs signs at deutsche ban for trump. doesn't get any dirtier than that for trump. that right there should have put the brakes on and said let's not get two sources, let's get three, keep pushing to make sure that the story is correct. this is outrageous. and the fact that lawrence o'donnell hasn't been disciplined at least so far and that that mbs news has in order said anything about this, it is really troubling because it really tarnishes all the excellent worknbmbs news has in order said anything about this, it is really troubling because it really tarnishes all the excellent workcmbs news has in order said anything about this, it is really troubling because it really tarnishes all the excellent work news has in orde said anything about this, it is really troubling because it really tarnishes all the excellent work good journalists do. >> julia, do you agree? >> 100%. i was frankly surprised because i see programs like that as

commentary shows. so not totally surprising that -- >> and he says he has a source and it was confusing. >> right. because i totally agree, no journali journalist worth hit or her salt would go with a story like this without at least having two stories, probably more because of the ammunition that it could hand to trump and his administrati administration. i do think that it is interesting that he was not disciplined in any way as far as we know because it is also the same network that disciplined brian williams not too long ago for fibbing on a story -- in comparison, it seems so annadine to this which is a massive blunder 37. >> let's talk about moving from the stories that bill belichiy e

biden, a navy captain who felt like a fail uhe because of losts in combat. the "washington post" says that in the space of three minutes, biden was conflating a bunch and got the time period, location, heroic act, the medal, military branch and rank of the precrecit wrong and as well as his own role. so he described a true event but getting almost all the facts wrong. and what is the response from the press? how seriously should these kinds of -- they are not gaffes, they are worse than gaffes. these kinds of falsehoods be taken when we are covering a president who makes it up every day. >> i mean, i think the fact that just then you had to pause yourself and say yes, it is actually worse than a gaffe means that our national conception, national definition of what truly does make a gaffe or scandal these days has been altered so drastically under this president that looking at

what joe biden did through the lens of a pre-trump time, you know, we wouldn't be awarding him a gold star for getting the quote/unquote core of the story correct. is that really the standard that we're suddenly holding the prospective leaders of the free world to? putting it in 34r5i7b language like that, it is frankly ridiculous and the sort of thing that i did believe that we wouldn't be awarding trump any gold are stars for saying that he got the core of the story correct as we should not do. we should hold our leaders to standards that include very basic metrics such as why don't you get the entire story right instead of just portions of it. >> completely agree with you. and yet i know a lot of people say what about trump, what about 2ru6r78, trump is worse. how do we just tune that out? what is the answer? >> it is true, and there is a difference at one level in if

you want to talk about intention or frequency. but we are in a war in this culture, there is a war on truth. and be i think that it is coming out of the white house in large ways. but it is in other ways as well. and facts are the basis of fighting back against that. it is not okay to have a presidential candidate being so loose with facts. i mean not loose. wonderful piece there from the "post" the way they nailed it with each factual mistake he made. but think of that, if these are the two candidates, we have two guys out there running around saying things that are often not true. one of them we think, oh, it is benign, it is joe. no, it is not benign. being factually incorrect and telling falsehoods is never benign. but a lot of people want to say it is benign with joe biden. >> they do, but let's set the bar high and have the same bar for everybody. shouldn't be too hard. to the panel, thank you so much. quick break here and then the story of another journalist who

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180-mile-per-hour sustained winds. coming ashore on the islands. hopefully those people hasought shelt shelter. we will see catastrophic damage. and we'll continue to bring you updates throughout the day. let's turn to one of the biggest media stories of the moment and that is the case involving playboy white house correspondent bring brian karem. he is a political analyst that you'll probably seen on this network. he is known for his aggressive questioning of trump, quite hostile at times to the president. received this determination that his press pass would be suspended for a month as a result of this altercation in the rose garden. let me show you the video. karem was at this summit and he was talking to some of the people in the crowd after trying to ask questions.

gorca didn't like the in-superintendent that he threw his way. the two men exchanged words. you see here from multiple angles.way. the two men exchanged words. you see here from multiple angles.his way. the two men exchanged words. you see here from multiple angles. karem has sued and we're expecting a ruling in the coming days. let's talk about the case with k karem and his attorney. why in the world was it appropriate -- what were you doing trying to provoke gorka and others? >> ring what the white house did was unprofessional. >> no, your conduct was unprofessional. >> i understand what you are saying. i would maintain that it is on the other foot. that it is okay -- you cannot sank sanction actions by one and then

make okay be the actions of the other. i tried to ask the president of the united states a question. we had been heckled many times during the cows of the afternco by the people in the crowd and in fact trump said to the effect that they make quite a few things up and he loves it. and the heckling had occurred toward us in the press. and what i did was make a joke and i'll never apologize for a joke that got a laugh. i learned that from a good friend of mine who is a comedian. and you know, i am provocative and i am a smart aleck, but i won't apologize for that. that is okay under the first amendment. there have been far worse altercations in the rose garden in the past. first thing i ever saw in the white house was helen thomas walk up to and bang on a door and demand that larry speaks come forward and answer her

question. mike mccurry used to bring doughnuts and coffee to helen. sam donaldson made a flippant comment to the president one time. >> i get it. >> yeah, you get it. >> i think there is room for an opinion column lumist who asks great questions. there is room for you there. but the point now is that your press pass has been suspended for a month, it has already been two weeks and you've hired same guy who got jim acosta's press pass restored. everybody remembers that case last november when acosta's pass was revoked and cnn had to go to court to get it back. so is this the same or is this different? are the arguments you made this week the same for being a costa or different? >> many of the arguments are the same.a costa or different? >> many of the arguments are the same. white house out of the blue

suspended karem's press pass with no notice of what the standards of conduct would be. so a lot of the same arguments. they tried to paper over the problems with issuing a 13 page letter after giving us one business letter to respond. but it is the same first amendment problem. this is part of a war by president and his new press secretary ms. grisham to try to intimidate reporters from asking tough questions. that is all it is. it i violates the first amendment and due process. and they are trying to send a message to other reporters there in the rose garden, watch out, we'll do this to you. and that is why we felt it was important not just for brian karem's case, but for all reporters so reporters can stand there and sometimes questions are insulting, they can be viewed by the president and his team as caustic and mean. that is what the first amendment protects. the supreme court has said that over and over again. >> you are hoping to hear from

the judge on tuesday. and if you get back for the white house this week, you just want to get your access restored? >> just do my job. this w40us cohite house comes a side ways. they will try to say that we have no problem with the first amendment, we have a problem with you. and the real problem they have is with the first amendment a and they don't like it. and as you pointed out in the first block talking about and they don't like it. and as you pointed out in the first block talking about how the president has said that he does to try to discredit us so people will believe him and not the facts. and so he has declared war on the press. this is merely one front in that war against free speech. >> and now back in court. brian, ted, thank you very much.

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♪ the man who couldn't take it anymore. that is the title for this new article in the atlantic magazine about secretary of defense james mattis who of course resigned late last year over disagreements with president trump. now mattis is on a press tour for his new book titled "call sign chaos, learning to lead."

jeffrey goldberg says it is a 100,000 word subtweet trump's leadership. mattis is still being coy and silent out of respect for the presidential office. saying if you leave an stwrik administration, you owe some silence, give the people there as much opportunity as possible to defend the question. i asked goldberg what he took away from his conversations with mattis. >> my sense is that there is a lot about donald trump that he finds absurd and repellant, but he is trying to maintain this disciplined approach of not speaking ill of a sitting president. >> so you are reading between the lines of what he says and how he reacts to questions and sometimes what he doesn't say. >> well, yeah. a lot is the dog that doesn't bark. he doesn't defend donald trump in the book. he does not hold donald trump up

as a role model, as a poll leadership model. quite the opposite in fact. the book is structured in a way to lead you to the conclusion that he thinks that donald trump is a terrible leader. >> and mattis was always said to be the adult in the room, one of the people protecting trump from trump. i could easily argue that he has a duty to talk about that experience. >> and that is what i argued. >> and what is his counter argument? >> and by the way it has a lot of merit. his counterargument is as a former general officer, as a former four star general, as a secretary of defense, he has to -- it is his responsibility not to further undermine a sitting president. there are national security consequences for someone of jim matt mattis' stature and his back ground to say this president is completely incompetent. the day after he says that, and i'm not saying that he would say that, but then donald trump would still be president.

so there are -- there would be profound national security consequences. and he is old fashioned. i mean, he is old fashioned, he doesn't like these people who come out of administration and ten minutes later write a tell-all memoir. he says that leaking is bad and discussion is bad. the counter argument to all of this is that donald trump is very unusual to borrow a word unusual president. and has done things that are already dangerous for u.s. national security. >> so you have a line in your piece that reminded me, and i still do have a capacity to be shocked. and we all do have to retain our capacity to be shocked these days. you say friends and aides said that he found this president to be of limited cognitive ability. three really frightening words in context of the president of the united states. >> yes, they are.

and, you know, i think that are so used to the circus of the white house, the circus in donald trump's mind, that we tend to sometimes accept things that are quite unusual when viewed in the overall context of american history. what people in the national security complex at very high levels say and this is both the pentagon and intelligence xhunszitxhunsz i community, armed services and intelligence people, is that donald trump doesn't understand american security needs, he doesn't understand the value of alliances, he doesn't understand the consequences of his tweets and his words expressed elsewhere. and he also lacks interest in understanding what is going on. >> do you think limited cognitive ability relates to this wider conversation that is

going on about whether he is fit, whether he is mentally stable enough for the job? >> right. this is i think -- these comments are less about mental stability than about mental capacity. >> how have you as editor of the atlantic approached this broader issue? certainly writers are saying that trump is getting worse. if he were in any other job, he would be pulled off to the side and examined. how far codo you think your sta should be going in that conversation? >> i want us to be careful. there is a catch 22 here. i think this has been ♪ ♪ed before. if you are not a physician or are si psychiatrist, you only have limited ability to diagnose someone. if you are a doctor, you are duty-bound not to talk about it. so we are in a trap in a kind of

way. i h i had destroy indicaadd vow cat careful. how far, i think that there is an out.vow cat for being very careful. how far, i think that there is an out. another path is to simply report on what he is doing and saying and then hold that up against how previous presidents and how other world leaders respond to the same types of issues. we can learn again -- we can learn most of what we need to know just by observing. like we don't have to go deep into the brain folds here to understand what is happening. we just have to watch and see how unprecedented some of this is. and then we can draw appropriate conclusions. >> check out our full conversation on this week's "reliable sources" podcast. up next here, h next is jou

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aisle have been commenting. jim garrity saying even trump supporters are getting tired of the daily drama. and rich lowry wondering is trump fatigue will bite him in 2020. let's talk about this with another writer who weighed in on this recently. her piece was entitled the demoralizing reality of life under trump. and you say this is an insane time. why, why is this summer especially hard? >> well, i think everything that you have talked about today is accelerating. used to be one shock being thing a week and now there is seven a day and we're like squirrel, squirrel, squirrel trying to keep track and i think people are wiped out. >> wiped out. >> yeah. >> now we're at labor day, heading into a new season. and you are saying that we are experiencing on a daily or weekly basis stories that could be impeachable.

you looked at the articles of impeachment and you are saying this is happening every week. why is that message not getting through to people? >> again, what jeff goldberg called the circus atmosphere. and i wrote about not that we're just getting physically ill, we're exhausted, we're not sleeping, everybody is drinking too much, but i think that we're going is the real feel. people saying i don't care or maybe i don't trust the thurnew. and those are bad outcomes. >> what do you tell people about avoiding being numb? what is the way to avoid that? >> i think we have some responsibility to cover this as though it is more than a reality show, more than wwf. if we continue to tell the truth, tell the facts, points out the lies, and try to help people understand that the

situation today is exponentially worse than when they showed up at the airports after the first travel ban was put into effect, it is so much worse. and yet we are so tired. i think that our job in the end is to do our job, tell the truth, an hope people stick along for the ride. >> i want to point out something that people can google. it's about the limits of journalism. you say they're asking journalism to do too much. can you explain that argument? >> i guess we got mad when the piece came down, trying to understand what happened in the al franken dustup and that the real point of the piece, i think, should have been, we needed a due process. we needed an actual hearing in the senate. we needed to have actually findings of facts, witnesses, subpoenas, all of it, and

journalism litigating "me too" is just substituting actual systems that should be doing it in the first instance. >> the same thing with jeffrey epstein. they're doing incredible work, but it doesn't replace the need for prosecutors. of course, there are prosecutors newly involved, and some of the victims were able to speak in court this week, but the reporters do not fill in for the need to investigate. >> i think the reporting is doing an amazing gap-filling job, but it is not in and of itself a determinative due process. >> right. important perspective. two years now since the harvey weinstein investigations. dahlia, thanks so much. a quick break here and more from the national hurricane center on hurricane dorian. back in just a moment. to relieve moderate pain for up to 12 hours, yet non-addictive and gentle on the body.

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hurricane dorian has been strengthening in the past few hours and it has maximum sustained winds of 180 miles per hour. that makes it the strongest storm anywhere in the world this

year. take a look at this aircraft flying through hurricane dorian early this morning, gathering data, collecting data. you see the effect of super strong hurricanes that show that kind of effect. they're warning of a storm surge of 28 to 33 feet from dorian that can affect the abaco islands in the bahamas in the next several hours. you see it beginning to approach land in the northern bahamas. this is one of the strongest storms the bahamas have ever experienced. cnn will continue with constant coverage here and on cnn.com all day and in the days to come. the storm's going to be with us for the better part of the week. thanks for joining us. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging?

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deadly rampage. another tragedy in texas. >> oh, god, they're shooting right there. >> seven people now dead and dozens injured after a shooter opens fire from his car, targeting law enforcement officers and other drivers. will anything change? 2020 presidential candidate beto o'rourke joins me, next. plus bracing for impact. intense winds, storm surges, and heavy rainfall threaten the southeast coast. >> the hurricane is, uh, roaring it, it could be a big one. >> are we ready for hurricane dorian? i'll