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and it will be heavy at times. no longer is it just the feeder stop carrying guns in wal-mart. bands kicking through an thanks very much for watching. occasional downpour. this is causing flooding. i'm wonderful blitz ner the florida has had a wet august and situation room. en cnn's special breaking news wet year. 150 miles east of coverage continuing right now ft. pierce. with erin burnett "outfront." yesterday we thought maybe the closest would be cape canaveral outfront next, breaking at 35 miles np now it looks news, utter devastation. about 807. new pictures from above showing the epic damage of hurricane but as it heads towards dorian. tonight race against time to jacksonville we could have save those trapped as wind, rain problems with the surge at the and a powerful storm surge st. john's river. but more importantly, the batter florida's beaches in hour. and there is a new threat carolinas. the evacuations, we may have a tonight. dorian closing in on the east coast of the united states. lachld close to the coast of possibly set to strike the south carolina. therefore the warnings are carolinas. extended north of wilmington. plus new video of the deadly maybe a better chance for cape boat fire in california as fear or outer banks. questions moubt about how it but still power outages are started and whether any going to occur. passengers could have been we'll have a storm surge where saved. let's go outfront. the water could hour after hour good evening i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, the breaking news, hurricane breech the dunes and find its dorian's devastation, the traerk storm now setting sights on way inland. and with the flood problems we florida. as tonight the storm finally could have the coast.
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picks up speed and it is getting that's coastal to 25 miles bigger. niece are live pictures right now out of indy atlantic beach because of the curve of the coastline. in florida. that's a big concern. conditions there deteriorating. we are looking at a 20 mile tropical storm force winds and a difference between the center damaging storm surge are and the coastline. battering the florida east coast and if you think the men and as the hurricane starts to move women of the national hurricane north. new evacuations are ordered center have been busy we have tonight in both south and north five systems in the atlantic. carolina. now dorian is growing in size, the peak of the system next now about 350 miles wide. tuesday. >> thank you, tom. the damage across the bahamas is the size and strength has officials warning that the widespread. across the imitate of grand hurricane could cause destructive tornadoes up and down the southeast. abico, particularly if you talk dorian's move towards the u.s. about grand bahama, power outage mainland comes as we are getting third day. look at the images, homes are our first glimpse of the leveled. others still under water as you catastrophic dachgs after dorian heard tom talking about. battered the bahamas for two because the waters can't recede. days. the city of free port has been this is when it was stalled. these are in pictures from an devastated that's where our patrick is tonight. island. homes ripped from foundations. paskt has been out amid the cars and boats as you can see storm. we saw video of you earlier littering the water. patrick. people racing to rescue those and the land there. trapped to try to save lives.
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it is truly destruction and debris as far as you can see. what have you been seeing? now, we have also traveled to >> reporter: well, so much of another hard-hit area where the island we are still not able rescues are under way as we to access because where there speak. used to be streets there are hundreds of homes people rivers. other places are completely clinging to roofs, stuck in blocked off like the downtown of attics. let me show you anothe way to free port where the main look at this. hospital is which we hear is that is before and after of full of victims of the storm. grand bahama island opinion the by submerged cars. yellow lines mark what was land but we did get to one area, erin before the starm hit. that used to be a bridge and now . it is cut in half. our team are reporters are there it's a staging for rescues. live. we'll go there live a in a rescuers are volunteers and they moment. say time is running out. you saw patrick there in a rescue boat. i want to go first to tom sater outfront live at the weather >> first we found my brother center. what is the latest on the track clinging to a troe. of dorian yan now that it's he made it out safe. moving again. >> well, erin, right now it's at but we were unable to locate his wife at the moment. we hope she is okay. 6-mile-per-hour. that's still considered slow for but the rescue goes on and on we a tropical system system. have a lot of people supporting but it's better than station us. we're working as a team. ari. let me start with grand bahama it's hard but we shall overcome. island because they are going in but we are getting survivors as the first night of darkness. if you notice on the infrared. we go. >> how many people are out there, do you think. >> a dozen more.
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thunderstorms are coming into >> a lot. >> a lot of people a lot of the region. that's going to hurt some of the people we can't find. families unaccounted for at the rescue and search efforts.e wine moment my brother's wife can't find her. last time he saw her she was pg keeping that high water like the clinging to a piece of card images you just showed moments board. and we found him stuck in the ago from receding. when you have the airfield here tree. and free port here and the >> dozens have been rescued by in all-volunteer force, erin but inuntags of water as long as the winds continue, the water can't there are so many people out there, just stop for a second to recede. the airport had five to six feet imagine they are entering the third night. just completely submerging it. they will be in the dark. once the waters recede then they unlikely to have food or water and they are waiting for rescue, can inspect the airfield just to a rescue that could take hours or days more to come, erin. get aircraft in there because that's what we need. again now that we seere >> thank you very much. and of course stay safe. concerns, not just for the patrick trying to everyone assest the picture as there. carolinas but florida still in there because i of course as darkness fall was no light, i want to go to harold williams be he is a resident of grand bahama. what does the destruction look like where you are. >> well, you know, i don't think that we've ever seen anything
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like this in our lifetime. just total destruction as far as water surge, coming onto the island. we have got 70% of the island has been flooded. the abicos is totally destroyed. persons are looking for loved ones. we are using social media to try to locate them. there are reports of persons beingr
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lifetime. >> that's so horrible wsh harold. we have no idea at this point what the death toll may be. i know you have been trying to rescue people. what have you seen? >> well, my son and my nephew were out last night. and we had to use deputies to try to rescue some family members. the jet ski had broken down. they had to go into the water themselves. and the water was chest deep. they had to lock arms in order to get the persons out of the house. and so the current and the wind was just blowing. so in order that they do not lose one another they had to lock arms until getting to safer ground. this unimaginable. >> i mean, harold, i know you're risking your own life to do
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this. how many people do you think need help? are you even able to tell as you see a house or as you, you know, are on the jet ski and go by how many people need help? >> you know, it's just heart breaking to hear the stories. my son told me that while they were trying to rescue the loved ones they heard screaming from persons in nearby homes just screaming help, someone help me get out. help, help, help. and you know, there is only so much you can do. there is only so much help you can provide. and i know the government and the efforts of the emergency tried last night. they had one of the big fire trucks that went out to the water. and the water -- the fire truck actually sank. the fire rescue had to swim to safety. and they were unable to get to
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those people. >> harold obviously the conditions are incredibly dangerous. how worried are you for your own safety? and what is your situation when it comes to -- you know your cell phone battery, the food you have, the supplies that you have given that it may take so long for more help? >> well, my own safety, i fared better than a lot because i live on the south side of the island. for us luckily the water was coming from the north side. and we fared a lot better. my family and i are safe. but of course we have a lot of loved ones, friends, a lot of persons that we know that have not been found. we are worried about them. and we are finding reports of bodies being found. and so we just are ones that ar persons with he no he are among those. all we can do to continue to hold out hope and pray no more
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casualties occur. >> harold, thank you very much for joining us. i -- we just all hope you get a lot more help. it's amazing there are people like you out there trying to help so many others thank you. >> yes thank you very much. news. president trump just announcing the united states will send more crews to help with the search and rescue efforts in the bahamas. we're going to know you the latest video we have of the airport. whoa you tack about getting help in. it can't come on an airplane. plus the scuba dive master and firefighter who has been on the boats that has been up in flames is outfront. he has been in the bunk room many times. what he thinks caused the fire killing 34 passengers. tonight extremely disturbing details now the gunman in the texas mass shooting got his assault style weapon. at fidelity, we believe your money should always be working harder.
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breaking news, a major airport in the bahamas completely under water tonight. this is what the grand bahama international airport in free port looks like. this is after the catastrophic flooding caused by hurricane dorian. you can see waves crashing against the trm nall. the terminal completely submerged. you know, you heard patrick talking at the top of the hour. five to six feet of water. literally waves. let me just show you by comparison what the airport used to look like. that's so you can see what's happening here. dorian dropping more than 30 inches of rain across the bahamas and then you have the storm surge and in now just free flowing waves. outfront eric jones seventh district dmarnd foreign the u.s. coast guard. i know you've had an exhausting day. how many people have you been able to rescue so far in the bahamas. >> we have been able to rescue seven, erin. the day started a little challenging because dorian still hadn't appreciably moved.
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but toward the end of the day we finally saw the motion north which allowed us to move further to the north and west. >> and i -- i cut out a second. you said seven or -- >> 47. >> 47. okay. look, that -- that is good news because we keep hearing from people as you know talking about people trapped and the pictures, commander are stunning. there is a hospital completely flooded. i'll show the pictures and we just showed everyone the airport. i mean, what are the conditions you're facing on the ground as the coast guard right now? >> everything we're bringing in is coming in from the air at this point simply because of the conditions. and we're having to focus on evacuating those folks that are injured and need- that require additional medical care and getting them back to the hospitals and nassau which is quite the trip. >> and what has been the biggest challenge you faced so far, for some of the 47 people what has their condition been like? >> several i've heard of have
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been basic blunt injuries, head injuries, a broken pelvis and the like. we've been able to have a doctor and medics on the ground on great abaco island to help evacuate those that can be treated in place and those that need to move to higher levels of care. >> and commander, as you said, it's been an exhausting 24 hours, 47 people rescued by the coast guard. what a expecting for tomorrow. >> foam is going to be an entirely new challenge because we should have access to all of the abaco's plus grand bahama island. and we obviously have going to have to be selective. we have the aircraft. but they can only lift, you know, three to five people at a time. and the capacity of the hospital is in nassau is limited. so there will be prioritization. we are working with the bahama
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government and the birmingham yan police force and defense forces will be bringing supplies to the islands to help with the people in place. and we'll use the search and rescue to prioritize the efforts to get folks to medical care. additionally, we expect some response from the royal fleet auxiliary mounts bay, a uk ship lending assistance as well. then we'll be helping as the usaid offs of foreign disaster assistance starts to flow in supplies that can be brought to the island for the people that are there. >> commander, thank you very much and good luck with this tomorrow. >> thank you so much, erin, we really appreciate it. >> i want to go outfront now to royal pinder in free port on grand bahamas she was forced to evacuate to stay with family. verle you tried to go out today.
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tell me what happened. >> i'm trying to go out. we weren't able to venture far. there were some downed power lines and then there was some trees right in the area that i evacua to. so we weren't able outside all to see if the flood waters came to this yarp. because right across the street and all around us people were calling in on social media needing to be rescued from right around in the area that we were staying in. so it was heart wrenching. >> you know, how would you scribe describe the damage you have seen. >> the damage i've seen so far, well, the thing is right now with all the flooding we have going to have to estimate that and able to venture out. right now all i can say it era is there is a lot of tree damage, a lot of lines low but because of the hurricanes of last time they changed out a lot of the power poles so they are kind of more sturdy now. we didn't have much of the pole damage in this area.
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but i don't know the extent of the island right now. but there are some roofs that are definitely damaged. >>en a verl i know you said you don't have power. have been relying onned candles flashlights with whatever battery hour you have. but you also mentioned the part of townd is submerged. possibly that food is gon more. are you worried about how long now you may be stuck? >> that is always a concern for us when it comes to storage. but right now the streets flooded there, the streets that are the major food stores are on i don't know what they did in preparation of the storm if everything is damaged or what. we need to wait and see. like i told you before, we are prone to this kind of thing and we know it most of us are kind of prepared with enough food for -- and water for what we have with us. but the thing that happened with this was there was so much persons out of place they had to
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come into the home. i know some person's water supply is probably almost depleted. and without telephone communication we just aren't sure what's going on. so we're eager to get out but we're not certain -- we can't even hear when the all clear is called. >> verl, good luck we're thinking of you we'll be checking in thank you. >> okay. thank you so much. thank you. >> and next, new ee vacancy vaks orders dorian outer bands now lashing florida. the carolinas bracing. plus we learn more about the who was on the diving board that went up in flames. the 34 passengers below deck are dead. >> snefs >> she was a go-getter. she loved the boat, loved diechg. ingsong) budget meeting! sweet. if you compare last quarter to this quarter... various: mmm. it's no wonder everything seems a little better with the creamy taste of philly, made with fresh milk and real cream.
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evacuation orders on the east coast as hurricane dorian moves north. the storm pummelling the florida coast with outer bands of heavy rain and storm force winds. icing up speed and heading for the united states. after devastating the bahamas
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process. miguel mar kiesau is outfront tonight in florida. what are the conditions where you are. >> this is some of the worst we have seen since the storm has churned off the coast. it's about 100 miles from where we are. the town and area has been preparing for about a week. a lot of people stayed thinking it was going to turn north and not affect them as much. but you can see how rough and ominous the sees are right now. a band is coming in now. the wind is picking up somewhat. it's been pretty steady winds for much of the day. but, you know, the damage here is going to be long-lasting. where we are standing right now, this used to be a dune basically. you can see how much it eroded as the first high tide that came if around noon. as the storm was offshore and hammered away at the coast, and they lost several feet of it. the other problem, this is an area sensitive for turtles. a lot of turtles come here and lay eggs. we are seeing turtle eggs all over the beach here.
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they're loose in some cases all over the beach as well. they've been all up and down this part of florida as affects of dorian. i mean, reporting here though, hearing patrick, seeing what's happening in the bahamas. it's hard to imagine how bad they have it when it is as bad as it is here but there -- i mean this is only a taste of what they are getting there. but, you know, people have come back to homes in this part of florida. but people north now bracing for whatever dorian packs up there. >> thank you very much. and so many questions now, of course, of the direct impact to the united states where it will be. i want to go to drew griffin live in titusville, florida. about 80 miles north of miguel. what are you seeing, drew? >> we are finally getting the out are bands. and strong tropical force winds at this point. this is what authorities in this
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county have been worried about all day. there was a lot of complacency. a lot of looky loo will laos people coming out. officials saying santa fe in place. we have not escaped this yetd. it's finally here. the looky laos have gone home. and we are expecting a rough night. but as miguel said, everybody is believing they have dodged a bullet here really. and looking towards the bahamas with great empathy, imagining what could have been had the storm barreled in. tonight into tomorrow is when it will be bad here and then it will move along. there was a tornado warning earlierier in the northern hou. but what we are getting is the ba bn they were predicting a couple days ago. erin. >> drew, thank you very much. of course the big question is, whether it will be much worse than predicted to be in the carolinas which is where dorian
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may make landfall now with the latest predictions. outfront now governor roy cooper. you have just issued mandatory evacuations for the barrier islands. how worried are you about the storm that could make the direct united states landfall in your state? >> well, erin, as you know north carolina juts out into the atlantic ocean. and we have suffered two hurricanes in the last three years. so our antenna is up. we are prepared. we are ready to go in the event that this storm does hit us. we are hoping for the best. but preparing for the worst. and certainly we are thinking about the people of the bahamas tonight. with the utter devastation that they have experienced there. we know how powerful these storms can be. so we've got all of our local emergency management people on alert. our barrier islands are spectacular, but we know that it
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can be difficult logistically to get people off of them. and so we have ordered evacuations, because we want them to get to safety. and we are encouraging them, do not ride out this storm. not only do you put your life at risk but you also put the lives of first responders at risk who would have to go in and rescue you. >> so, governor, what i'm wondering about on that front, though, is kplskt -- i don't know if you heard drew griffin talking about from florida. people get a little complacent maybe it won't hit here. and then they come back. and then it didn't hit a direct hit. obviously some severe impact. but i'm wondering if you have that concern or are seeing any of that, that maybe there is co in your state when you tell them to evacuate? >> for a state like north carolina that has had two devastating hurricanes within three years -- we had two so-called five hundred year floods in less than three years. and it hasn't even been a year
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since hurricane florence hit last year. so we know what the storms can do. i don't sense any complacency. i do know how difficult and frustrating and sometimes costly that evacuations can be. but when you weigh the cost of losing lives, you know that it is something that you need to do. always you have people who live at the coast and particularly in the outer banks who have been through a lot. they have weathered a lot of storms, seen a lot of northeasters that they consider stronger than hurricanes. so some people you are just not going to be able to move out. they just refuse to go understanding the risks they take. but we certainly want all the tourists off. and we want as many of the residents off who will do so. local law enforcement and local officials will be going through these outer islands to warn
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people and tell them it's time to leave. because you really don't want to put yourselves or first responders at risk, because some amazing people -- public servants in our state who will risk their lives in a minute to go in and save people. and we have seen it done. >> i hope -- i hope that residents heed that warning, because there are those who will risk lives for others and there should be no need to do so. thank you very much governor cooper. i appreciate for your time tonight thank you, sir. next rescue crews all off the search for survivors of the horrific boat fire. there are questions about exactly what happened. we have alarming daemts about how the gunman in the latest mass shooting got his hands on an assault style weapon. smart . can it help keep us asleep? yes, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. save 40% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. plus 0% interest for 24-months on all beds. ends sunday.
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new tonight there are no additional survivors in the horrific boat fire in california. the coast guard spending the search after 23 hours of searching across 163 miles. this is new video of the coast guard responding to the fire when they responded to the may day call. so far the remains of 20 victims have been recovered. and there are up to 14 others still not located, they believe probably 199the wreckage. it's not going to be easy they say to identify them. >> many if not all of the victims who have been recovered will need to be identified through dna analysis. there was an extraordinarily hot fire. and the bodies do exhibit signs of extreme thermal damage. >> stephanie elam is outfront. stephanie, have investigators determined the cause of this fire? >> reporter: no, that's something that's still outstanding. in fact the ntsb now here in santa barbara saying the
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investigation they might be able to get a preliminary report in 10 tais. but it may be a full year before we know what happened. what we know is divers did identify there may be more bodies within the wreckage. they were working to try to pull the bodies out. but even if they to, they saw four to six people. there are still more bodies they are working to find. >> stephanie, you spoke to one woman who says her daughter was on the boat. what did she say to you? >> it's interesting when you are out here and this make shift memorial is behind us and people keep visiting. but all of a sudden there is the cry of the woman she said my daughter and she fell to her knees in front of the picture of her. the mother's name is sheri mcdona came from cincinnati. her daughter, 25 years old loved diving, loved being by the ocean. loved being here. take a listen how she described her daughter. >> she was a go-getter. she was just following her
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dream. she loved it here and she loved the boat. she loved diving. >> how are you coping with all of this? >> i'm not we came out from cincinnati. and it comes in waves. never thought i would ever have to go through this. >> and when you're out here, you know the harbor is still very much alive. people are coming out and touring and enjoying the end of summer. but when the mother showed up here everyone went quiet. it was so silent as everyone allowed this mother a moment dsh to have this moment as she mourns her daughter, and not knowing yet if she has been recovered. >> stephanie, thank you. i want to go outfront to eric ody. scuba diver and retired fire firefighter who has been on the conception boat six times. you know this boat well. at this point we understand people were sleeping. there were very tight bunk quarters below deck. the crew who survived were obviously above deck. what would it have been like for
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someone sleeping fl the bottom to try to get out? >> well, in looking at the floor plan of the boat basically you go down a stairwell on the star board side in the front corner of the bunk room. and that's the egress and ingress access to the bunk room. there is an emergency access hatch that comes up above the two rear bunks, 27 and upper a 10 upper that comes up into the main dining area, salon floor near the back, close to the opening where you can go out the back of the boat. but those are the only ways you can get in and out of it the downstairs bunk room. >> just to be clear, because the coast guard had originally been asking if thing were locked. your understanding there is no door on the staircase at all so someone could get out but all the means of egress whether
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staircase or hatches all essentially go to the kitchen. >> they go into -- welcome the kitchen, the galli area is in the front. if you go up the scare are stairwell out of the bottom from the bunk room you'll come up right next to the galli. so the galli -- the stairs come up right on the star board on the right side of the kitchen area, the galli. and then the hole from there going back to the back of the boat to get outside on the dive deck is all enclosed except for the back opening. that's the salon dining area. that's where everybody -- you would come up through the emergency hatch end up in the back part of that. or if you come up the ladder you you come up next to the galli. not the ladder excuse me the stairs. >> you've been on the boat six times. you're a retired firefighter. >> yes. >> what do you think may have happened, eric? >> hard for me to speculate, really. it's just -- i really enjoyed
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every trip i've taken with truth akwaut iks on the conception. i was on the vision one trip. and it's -- they are really professional give great safety briefings. very professional crews. jerry, the captain is amazingly -- just an amazing guy and knows so much. and was very safety carb. it was a catastrophic event. it seems like, you know, a fire occurred at somewhere that nobody could get out of. the two probably areas are either the gallie or the engine room. the only thing running at night would be the generators. the generator runs the lights. but, you know, the boot anchored is typically they would anchor in an area that was fairly sheltered and set the front anchor in the boat and pivot in the current and the wind. >> what was your initial reaction when you heard about what happened and that people --
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whatever happened, nobody was even able to get up the stairs that didn't have a door on them? obviously perhaps the fire was at the top of the stairs. we don't know. but a lot of people on the boat shb on the boat before probably or been on boats like this before. >> right. and i've been on boats -- other live aboard boats in the kayman and belise. i was on the kayman aggressor we had an explosion from an air compressor that overpressurized appear created a flash fire in the engine room and the extinguishing system put the fire out immediately. this, however, at 3:30 or 4:00 in the morning when they were calling, the fire must have got well established somewhere on the boat, maybe -- i don't really know. but if it was near the galli
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people and wounded 25 more a shooting rampage. . will the needless deaths get the senate majority leader to take action here is mitch mcconnell. >> if the president took a position on a bill, so that we knew we would actually be making a law and not just having serial votes, i'd be happy to put it on the floor. >> so here is why he doesn't know president trump's position. >> as strong as you make your background checks, they would not have stopped any of it. >> closing another loophole, manu raju is live "outfront". expanding background checks, which would close this crucial loophole as been sitting on mcconnell's desk for months. he's not brought it for a vote. because he doesn't know where
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the president stands, is that fair? >> yeah, the concern for the senate majority leader right now is putting a bill on the senate floor that would put his republican senators in a difficult spot, but they are asking essentially for the president to give political cover to back legislation that could be continue verse and w l controversial and get backlash from the base to move forward. the president says he would ultimately sign off on that but because he's been all over the map, that has made it very difficult for republicans in the senate to decide exactly how to move forward. they have been in this position before, erin, right before the government shutdown the longest in history that occurred this year. they thought the president was going to sign legislation to keep the government open. he backed away and the republicans were in a difficult spot. in this situation, they don't want the same thing to happen, which is why they are asking for clarity and something the white house has yet to give the republican senators and the senate, of course, is in recess with the house. they don't return until next week when members will start to
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discuss these matters in more detail, erin. >> you have new reporting on what nancy pelosi is telling democrats tonight. >> she wants the democrats to focus on mitch mcconnell, pressure him to put the universal background check on the floor which will require private sells and the senate minority leader, had the house bill been pass that could have stopped this tragedy in west texas from over the weekend. expect that message to be one that democrats used in the days ahead. erin? >> manu, thank you very much. "outfront" next, vice president mike pence is in ireland staying 200 miles away from where he's doing business. to fly and drive to get there, why? there is a reason and it's donald trump. ♪ don't get mad, put those years to work with e*trade.
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hurricane dorian hitting florida destroying almost everything in the path. the monster storm raising climate change. we'll be discussing that in depth with the ten top 2020 democratic candidates, special night of town halls tomorrow starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern on cnn and we're very much looking forward to you being with us for that. vice president pence going out of his way to stay at president trump's properties. pence is in ireland sleeping at a trump resort, which makes absolutely no sense because his official business is 181 miles away from where his bed is tonight. taxpayers are paying for an hour-long car ride and 40-minute flight for pence to get to meetings with government officials. pence's team admits that trump leaned on him to do it.
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according to pence's chief of staff, it was a suggestion like when we went through the trip, he's going where the pence family is from like well, you should stay at my place. again, taxpayers are paying for this and trump is benefitting. kaitlan collins is "outfront" at the white house. we learned the attorney general bill barr is a using the president's hotel for his family and to state the obvious, this is not normal. >> the question is it the new normal with aids as you noted brushing off that the vice president is staying there and of course, are the questions about bill barr himself and they are saying this is the first time the vice president has stayed at one of the president's properties when he's not been with the president, but obviously, it is raising the obvious questions about not only ethics but optics. logistics plays a factor because the vice president has several meetings with government officials in dublin, which is hours away if you're driving from where he was going to have these meetings compared to where the president's property is so there is questions about whether
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or not that was the most ideal place for him to stay when it's taxpayers footing the bill here. now, they are pushing back saying it was the president's suggestion he stay here because the president does often say his properties he believes are the best ones wherever they are sprinkled throughout the world but the white house says they can't help where the vice president is going to stay because the president cancelled his trip to poland at the last minute that caused pence's office to shift some things around saying of course, they got this contingency coming but questions who is paying for the vie vice president to stay in a property he benefits from. they are saying the vice president has family roots here where this property is. that's why he was planning to go there at the end of his trip in the first place but they did have to clarify today that it's going to be the viels president footing the bill for his family traveling with him but of course, when it comes to the vice president, his secret service and staff contingent, that's taxpayers paying for it and the white house is facing questions why it is he's staying
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at the president's property. >> certainly impossible to justify. it certainly seems like. thank you kaitlan collins. thanks very much to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson begins right now. good evening. the images and the stories coming out of the bahamas tonight are nothing short of steering. a man watches his wife drown and barely makeso going back and bao rels cue neighbors to rescue strangers knowing they could lose tnt not to try. tonight, we're seeing what hurricane dorian did to the islands where entire communities are covered in water and some have been oobliterated. hospitals and emergency facility there is and across the bahamas flooded. we're learning, too, conditions in freeport is worse than expected. patrick who joins us shortly saw it firsthand
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