it is a real challenge. >> the houses in the neighborhood you're in, it's just a beautiful city. the news continues. i hand it over to chris. >> welcome to prime time. breaking news. we can finally show you parts of grand bahama island that no one has been able to get to until now. our cameras are there and you can see for yourself the maggot of the destruction and why people on the ground there fear news about more fatalities. the fear sfroeds thousands of people missing. rescuers are battling flooding. there are no communications. we told but one young woman's search for family. we have new information on her situation. you'll want to hear it. we're also live in the carolinas where the eye wall of dorian is closing in. and we have a different kind of

storm. what does trump insider chris christie make of the president's latest war with the truth? not so sharpie. what do you say? let's get after it. all right. let's deal with the serious situation first. this is what dorian left behind on the part of grand bahama island that had been totally cut off until today. finally, some of the floodwaters are receding. patrick mandate his way there with his team. i want to show you patrick. show that you he's okay. i want to talk to him about what that experience was like. first let's show the viewers what patrick and his team recorded. >> reporter: this behind me is the clinic and it has been leveled by hurricane dorian's category 5 winds that came screaming through here. there are people in the bahama that's say that the abacos, different islands, received the worst damage. and they need to come here.

they need to come to the remote places on grand bahama island that very few have visited. we're only an hour to get here. driving around debris, you can see never direction for miles. all the power lines are down. most of the trees are town. you don't see any cars going back and forth because there's nothing or nowhere to go to here. look at this. this is amazing. this was the police station. hurricane dorian came here and ripped the roof clean off. not only that, you think of the power that a storm needs to knock down entire cement walls.

we don't know if anyone was here. residents say the storm surge and you can see the line just up there. 17 feet. they measured it. you can see the devastation everywhere you look. the town goes back to the water. there are some 300 homes here. every home is either damaged or destroyed. you can see slabs of concrete and they've been thrown around like they weigh nothing. this is the high rock prison. there's only one jail cell and

it is not guarding anyone. we don't know if they were here but they didn't stick around. there is nothing left of this town. the people say they've yet to receive any help from the government. like so many bahamians, they're waiting for the people to come. >> boy, that silence. how do you rescue? how do you restore law and order and essentials? patrick, first of all, thank god you and your team are safe. what about people? who did you see? what's the untold story of concern in that area? >> it was a ghost town. and it took us days to get out there. we kept trying and the water was too deep. the water came halfway up the

car. the driver wanted to go back. the road was missing in several areas. we went forward because we knew there was a great story out there. the damage was absolutely stunning. i've seen a lot of really awful things. and this was up there. i don't want to get too graphic. you could smell the stench of death everywhere we went. crews came in to look for bodies. we don't know what they found. it was a ghost town out there. that town. just the one town we were. 300 people lived there. they're still on their own. >> so it is the unknown that's the biggest fearful how many places like that are there that still need to be surveyed and accounted for? >> reporter: town after town. the reason we wanted to go there is because you look at the map. that's where the category 5 winds came in. that is where the site of the

storm surge. we've been in touch with people in that area. so many people said, we're going to ride it out. we have a house that's on stilts. 12 feet high. we'll be okay. we've not been able to reestablish contact with any of those people. we went out there to find them and we couldn't find any of them. >> throws good structures. a lot of the house there's are not like that. how far was that particular village from the water? . >> reporter: that town was maybe half a mile, a mile from the water. there were other residences where you could see the water. and cars have been picked up and thrown into the second story houses. there was a girl with her dad. he just built the house. quite a carpenter. they showed me it was the top of

the second florida. that's where the water was. how long did it go on for? two days. people are dealing with post-traumatic stress. everywhere we went, they're on the hundred for water west took water out there. you give someone a bottle of water that's been sitting in the car. it's hot and they drink it like it's champagne. the one item, the hardest to find item here. the difference between life and death for so many stuck out here where life has not arrived. >> it will take time and time is a killer. a mile away from the water. the water was still 17 feet high in surge. that's incredible. i know you're doing a lot of good work for people on the ground. take care of yourselves. keep sending us information so we can keep people connected.

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martin salve yvidge is there. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, chris, of course the storm is a mere shadow of what it was when it went through the bahamas. it's a testament to the power of the storm that it is still able to continue to pummel even five, six days after that. the winds are down significantly from what we were earlier in the week. but they're still delivering a punching blow to the carolinas. you saw what it did to the earlier part of south carolina, myrtle beach, now closer to north carolina, feeling the full brunt. it was not just the winds and the torrential rains. a new threat today. tornadoes. these were spin-off tornadoes that came out of darkness in the early morning hours and they did do damage, destroying in some cases mobile homes completely and others, tearing the siding

off other community homes, bringing down trees. it's a pretty rough night, still ahead here. chris? >> you know, you're a pro and you're always so measured and your voice is always so calming. i know that's uncomfortable, what you're standing in even though it's dark and hard for people to see. please, stay safe. stay out of the worst of it and be well. okay? all right. let's go now to our meteorologist, tom, let's figure out where it's going. >> reporter: we still have the hurricane warnings in effect. now they come all the way to the lower neck of the chesapeake. as we look at the core of the system, it looks like it wants to die out. the winds continue to broaden. this is such a broad storm. we're seeing the edge of the eye. a little concerned about the curvature of the outer banks.

we had over two dozen tornado warnings and usually they're ef-1, ef-2. the video shows otherwise. now as we watch the possibility of landfall, this will be near cape lookout. the outer banks, around the entire globe, are some of the most susceptible areas for a storm surge. we'll see that. broadening out, we may have flight delays up and down the entire eastern corridor. when we look at the spin of this, we're not over with this. we've had heavy rain of this well in advance. when we talk about the entire thing of this, even with the storm warnings around nantucket and martha's vineyard, this system, we're ending the 13th straight day of forecasting this. tomorrow is day 14. it has traveled 3,000 miles. and get this. where is it going next? take a long at the forecast up

toward nova scotia. it will have some problems there. south of greenland, it becomes sub tropical. it moves across the northern atlantic and they'll have strong winds in scotland by the middle of next week. amazing. one thing for sure, there will never be another hurricane with the name dorian. it's not for a hall of fame. it is for the sadness and the tragedy of it all. no doubt about it. this is going away. give it a couple more days. i think by tomorrow morning, we'll say goodbye off the outer banks. >> god willing. we'll switch topics here. we have a former governor who has a lot of experience how to lead during a weather crisis. chris christie is back on prime time. we'll talk hurricane dorian and why it has aed to this president's problems but then the tough part. and this governor's new focus. solutions to what ails our politics most. let's get after it. next.

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we're living in strange times. we've got a hurricane going up the coast and the president is fighting with the media with something that he said that was wrong. about a dozen times cynic sunday. he said he was right about saying it was heading toward alabama. it isn't and never was in any real way in any model we've ever been shown. this isn't about fact. it is about where we are in our discourse. this is where we are. >> right now, i'm much more concerned about preventing any other loss of life. getting people to safe places. and then we'll worry about the election. the election will take care of itself. >> it is not this is where we are. no. this is where we are. governor chris christie. do you remember during super storm sandy, i don't care about bush, i don't care about obama, i care about helping new jersey.

i'll hug anybody who comes here to help us. that's what he did. he got criticism. he didn't care. he's been in the mix. now he's watching what's happening and he thinks it is too much. he's trying to bring civility back. we're going to talk problems and solutions. governor, great to have you here. i mean that. we have to remember that's what a leader does. the game stops when people start dying or are at risk. no more left, right. >> listen, 365,000 homes destroyed in new jersey in 24 hours. when that happens, what we're seeing with dorian right now, you can't be worried about politics. if you are, you're not being a leader. political fights can be kept until later. part of what i'm trying to do is to say, there has to be ways for us to begin to talk to each other again in order to solve

problems. we're not talking to each other. i want to get a forum where people can do that. >> let's look at this one moment's metaphor and then we'll go anywhere you want in terms of how you diagnose the problem. people get information and misinterpret it. let's assume he was getting real-time data on it. let's assume he showed them a model. he was wrong about it going to alabama. okay. the end of the story. the national weather service corrected it. he couldn't let it go. he took it as an insult. now the media picked up on it. why? that's what we do. if the president is into it, we're into it. he doesn't let it go. he says we're being fake. he has him standing up there with a map that he drew a circle on. now he has a rear admiral saying that he did get a briefing. who does that in the middle of a hurricane? >> this is part of the symptom.

the fight never ends. the president feels like he's under siege constantly so he'll never stop fighting. the media says they feel like they're under siege from the president. the congress feels like they're under siege. they won't stop fighting. and what is getting lost is the real concerns of real americans who want the government to operate. at the local level, the state level or the local level. people are never taking their uniforms off. we're never sitting down where the uniform is off. a guy was on anderson's show. he said you should not pay so much attention to it. swhins does a president making a mistake about where a hurricane goes, i could literally waste my whole time telling you things

that he said, it is not our job to let it go. it is our job to expose it. we've never dealt with anyone who refuses to admit when he's wrong. >> i think everybody has gotten out of control. i think there are elements. now they're going to attack back. two wrongs don't make a right on either side of it. what i'm trying to do, listen. nobody has fought harder than i've fought at times. i've had sharp elbows, critical things to say. well, you haven't always been civil. show never person in public life who has always been civil. show me the person, in my view, this all start in the 1990s in a serious way with the contract with america and the attitude and tone that went on during

that campaign in the mid 90s. >> what did you see as a shift? >> it became much more personal during the chin years. and then the clinton people got back to being personal as well. >> newt gingrich was quoted saying, they don't teach you to be mean . >> i think it has evolved and gotten worse. i think the things president clinton got involved with made it coarser and worse. then we had the talk that george w. bush was an illegitimate president. that caused more anger in the country. and you move to iraq. the people on can i have sides. instead of saying the president did what he thought was best. he may have been wrong with the intel he had.

>> the weapons of mass destruction turned out to be fake. and congress said they voted for aer with a -- >> i think the president felt deceived too. i've talked to the president about this. he was given intel. they said this is a slam-dunk. it turned out to be wrong. instead of being wrong, they're evil. then the stuff with president obama. >> i agree with the whole trajectory. but we've never seen a president like this one. you have to use the word. if you ignore it, you empower him. his people said he's never lied to the american people. that's a lie. >> i've known the president for 18 years.

and this is someone who has never been involved in politics before. never been involved with seeing how you have to talk around politics until you know what you're supposed to do. the bottom line is, the american people voted for donald trump because they were tired of what was going on in washington and they wanted a disruptor. that's what they're getting. some people are saying that's too much. other people i talk to really love it. what i want to see, regardless of the personalities. we just talked about this. obamacare passed without one republican vote. the tax passed without one democrat vote. that's just wrong and no way to govern the country. i had a democratic legislature for eight years in new jersey of solidly democrat. nearly veto proof. yet we got all kinds of things

done in our state because we were willing to sit down and have personal relationships. >> and you fought but you fixed. right. you fought because you believed in something. and then you compromised. those are the conversations we need to have. i want to use this institute as a forum to do that. so people can see examples of how bipartisan relationships can work. i hope that the president is persuaded by this. that nancy pelosi is persuaded. that members of congress are persuaded. i think the american people are near exhaustion from the fighting. and it is about time. >> i can't disagree with any of that. i hear it all the time.

frankly, we design the show around it. i believe in disagreement with decency. it doesn't matter what i'm called, as long as my kids aren't around. i'll take it and try to make it better for the audience in my professional life. i don't know if it can get better without accountability. and i know that everybody does something like what we're seeing happen in the white house. but not like this. nobody on this president's side of the team, the fence, the line, says yeah, he has to stop lying. nobody does it. why he would ever change? >> in our system, the accountability is there. it's called the election. i think our founders designed this country to be an argument. a perpetual argument with the

three branchs of government dividing up power. a lot of it being stressful. if the president were coming out with charts and graphs about why this hurricane proves what he wants to do for global warming, what he doesn't want to do for global warming, and he could argue that all day and he got hot, it's always personal. >> i don't think that's true. >> look at this with the hurricane. he literally drew with a sharpie something that's not true. >> let me look at that. it's never about anything big. it's always about something personal. i don't think that's the case. i think we've seen a president here at times where he is fighting for things that he rae believes in.

he is fighting with china. he doesn't believe the theft of intellectual property and americans not being paid for it, that it is fair. that's not a personal fight to him. i only hear him say anything bad about him. he's been pretty nice. >> a pretty low bar. that's a fight for the american people. >> conceptually, that's not what his rhett 56 about. they're getting hurt more. >> that's a political argument. the underpinning of what he's doing is he believes that american inventors and american manufacturers have been treated unfairly by the china he's are stealing our intellectual property. >> you won't get an argument on

that. >> i think this, what happens in the environment now, even reasonable people like you, and we've known each other for a long time. it gets obscured. the willingness to say that's not my enemy. that's my adversary. i did not vote for barack obama twice. when he came to new jersey and he did his job and he said i'm going to help you and he followed through, you're right i'll say nice things about itself deserved it. and my number one job was not to be mitt romney's surrogate. it was to be governor. >> let's talk about what you think can get done and how you're going to do it. we'll take a quick break. you heard what we're going to do. let's get after it.

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you want to have the conversation later? i'm happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> all right, now, governor chris christie was known for a lot of things when he was in new jersey. attitude was one of them. now the point is, civility is about a lack of animus. you can have attitude but not

animosity. you're starting an issue on civility. you were the tough guy. why you? >> this is what drives people in mit life crazy. when you show a clip like that. because if you showed the 45 seconds before that, when the guy was standing up and interrupting. that was a sandy anniversary event on the first year anniversary of sandy. and i offered to the guy, in, listen, if you have a problem, come over to see my staff. i'll meet with you after the event to try to help and you work you through. there are 45 seconds of me saying, i want to help you. we can't do it in front of 400 people here. it became clear to me after my offer that he kept yelling and screaming. he didn't want that. what he wanted was to disrupt the event. so at that point you have to make a decision and say, okay, you're going to be that way? then you're going to get hit back. that didn't ever affect my ability to get things done. if you talk to senate president

in new jersey, to the two people who were speaker in new jersey, we have our back and forth. one time, on the front page of the paper, he said he would punk me in the head. like i knew he was not. he was venting and he was playing to his base. but after that, we got in a room and we resolve the issue. >> i understand this a lot better because we grew up the same way. full disclosure, the governor is friends with my brother, the governor have new york which is a testament in civility. if there was ever a bite the two alma males. you trust in each other. you're a tough guy. you made political traction because you kept the media at bay. you're having it both ways.

>> to get things accomplished, you have to show people you're tough and willing to fight. if they think you're going to roll over every time, no one will be incentivized to compromise. when you're principally at difference. so republicans and democrats have principle differences. the difference is, are you willing to get into the room to develop a personal relationship with the person on the other side of the table, the other side of the aisle, and are you willing to use that personal relationship as a way to get things done? which means compromising. so what we're missing, we're not willing to sit down with the other side. b, we're not willing to take risk of developing personal relationships. and as a result, c, can never happen. compromise.

that's why they pass. the only way is to take the risk to trust each other. >> the line you cross to trust each other. what is the incentive to be high road, compromise. >> you can do what i just did in that clip. by the way, that guy ran twice as a state a sblim democrat. he had a political agenda. you have to as a public official make the decision. there was a time in a town hall meeting and i called him a jerk. wrong thing to do. i apologized to him for it afterwards. we're human. we'll lose control of our temper. especially when you're in a stressful job like governor or president or speaker. >> the apology part matters

though. >> it does matter. and there's no question what we have lost of late. not only from the president but people in congress, too. and at the state level. the ability to admit. i made a mistake. i was wrong and i'll moving on. it doesn't make me less. it makes me more. when i apologized to the navy s.e.a.l. i called a jerk. so there is a moment when you have to say enough is enough. >> so how with, people find bout the initiative? we have a website. the christie institute for public policy. what we're going to start is three weeks from tonight, we'll start with a conversation between me and someone you're familiar with. the governor of new york. >> wow! that will be a brawl.

>> the great thing about governor cuomo and i, we dealt with each other on a personal level on issues both political and policy. we were candid with each other. we executed and kept our word to each other. we didn't always agree on everything. he raised the minimum wage in the airports. he did his thing. i did mine. i didn't come out and say andrew cuomo is a crazy liberal and he didn't come out and say i'm a heartless s.o.b. he said i disagree got ever quocuomo cuomo. weighed bigger issue. some of the biggest infrastructure projects in the history of our two states happened because we work together. the bridges, the expansion of laguardia airport. the modernization of newark airport. a path train being built. all those things happened

because he and i worked together and cooperated. we didn't agree on everything. i'm sure we didn't vote for the same person for president. it is not always me involved. we'll bring others in on these issues. you can have an adult conversation about this and disagree and not kill each other. >> i get the angle. you're the right guy to do it. seton hall, new jersey, university. the right guy to do it because you are a tough guy and you want civility. >> our country needs it. 100%. >> yes. you're always welcome here. thank you very much. good luck. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> back to the story. a lot of people, part of the story is where are my loved ones? you saw with patrick oppman down

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>> remember that. hourly updates. this is while he was golfing throughout the holiday weekend. this is what the maps looked like on sunday morning. that's the actual map, okay? her is no other map. this is the map. the storm's path had shifted north days earlier. so now it looked like the storm would just skim florida's atlantic coast.

thankfully. at the time, there was a 5 to 10% possibility that a small sliver of alabama could see tropical storm force winds maybe. if you look at it, that's what the map says. never a direct hit. same possibility for washington, d.c. and delaware and new jersey. fighte but here's what the president tweeted. in addition to florida, south carolina, north carolina, georgia and alabama will most likely be hit much harder than anticipated. looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. already category 5. be careful. god bless everyone. right sentiment. he just got something wrong and the map shows it. proof, 20 minutes after the president's tweet, the national weather service, not the most partisan place in the world, sent this out, alabama will not see any impacts from #dorian. we repeat, no impacts from hurricane dorian will be felt

across alabama. the system will remain too far east. why the clarification? so that you don't freak out people in and around alabama because clearly the national weather service took the president's tweet as wrong. so, instead of just being quiet or god forbid admitting the error, this president doubles down an hour later. >> it may get a little piece of a great place it's called alabama. and alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that. it could be. this just came up, unfortunately. >> it did not just come up. he gets something wrong. he gets corrected. he gets offended, apparently. doubles down. creates concern in a state where there need be none. distracts the conversation from the places and people who need notice and then does something that is right out of a "b" comedy.

>> that was the original chart, and you see it was going to hit not only florida but georgia. it could have -- was going toward the gulf. that was what was originally projected. >> it's a sharpie line. someone drew it to extend the cone out to alabama. are you serious? drawing a mustache on someone's photo is more subtle. look at poor dhs acting secretary mcaleenan. all the serious work he has to do and there he is trying to touch the tainted map as little as he can. then just now we're told the president directed some poor rear admiral to say the president was given a briefing on sunday that had a model that showed alabama could get some dorian exposure. look at the models from sunday again. you see wind advisories but there is no major storm impact. he loses on a fact check.

period. now the big question. who cares? two ways to look at it. one, no one cares. it's another discrepancy. potus wasn't right, but what's so wrong with being off and spreading extra caution in a storm? there was a chance of getting some nasty winds. better safe than sorry, right? right? why does the media have to chase everything. leave him alone. let him be himself. or people are piling up dead. real problems are mounting that deserve attention and concern and urgency and focus. you are literally in the middle of a hurricane. and this president is all about defending himself and his erroneous claim, fake maps, compelling people to justify his claims not really focuses on the people who should be getting help, which is what a leader does. oh, he's just fighting back. against what? the truth? even if he were right and he was wrong, you really think this was

the time and this is the way for a president to act? i argue this, you can't. you can't support doing this this way during this time. it is not on us. he is the leader of the free world. it begins with him. this is not strength, it is arrogance. it does not deserve respect because it is inherent disrespect so you and the oath of his office. and if you think it isn't a big deal, that only reinforces the point. if he will go to this length to justify something this small at a time like this, what else will he do? be honest, we know the answer. >> don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. >> what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> look, and that is just a touch of what we've learned. he'll mislead you about everything from crowd size to how we're containing children.

celebrations after 9/11 to russian interference. it is easy to ignore, but what you ignore you empower, and what we see here is proof that the people around this president and those in his party have created a hurricane of hypocrisy that is every bit as threatening as any storm. all right. we're going to take a break. when we come back, i have an update on a story you're going to want to hear. next. pods sport.hy we graduated to te finally something more powerful than the funk. tide sport removes even week-old sweat odor. it's got to be tide. at t-mobile, what can you get when you a buy a samsung galaxy note 10? you get unlimited data while on a network

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so on tuesday night you remember 20-year-old romia? she came on the show asking to help find her family in the bahamas. here's a little bit. >> the last we've heard from them was days ago. and now we're getting information trickling in from one or two settlement. but like i said earlier, there are nine settlements in the far northern end of abaco. it seems like our relatives have just washed off the planet. like, we're not hearing anything

from them. >> good news, romia contacted us tonight. her family has been located. all are safe, but there are thousands still looking so, please, stay connected. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. you know, d., we like to give the audience a little bit of hope. let them know that some good things are happening as well, but there's a lot of hurt in the bahamas. >> a lot of hurt. there's some good things happening on the ground with people, emergency equipment and food and all sorts of resource that are being brought to the islands, but they're going to need a whole lot of help. you want to bring the positive, but, i moon, we'ean, we've got honest, the death toll will probably go up. they're still searching for people. still places that are uninhabitable. still places that they can't get to. if you look at that horrific video, every time i see patrick, patrick oppmann is in the middle of it. >> yeah. >> i think it was to you, he said you can sadly -- and he didn't want to beic