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happy, and definitely no more proof the president has six pack abs. jeanne moos, cnn. >> we have fake weather, too. >> new york. and thanks so much for all of you for watching. "ac 360" starts now. >> good evening, as hundreds of thousands in the carolinas and virginia are without power tonight in hurricane dorian creeps toward new england, according to a new forecast released moments ago, the bahamas has begun the search for its own people unsure of the death toll at 30 and how far it will actually rise. we want to pause here for a moment because likely you have seen pictures and heard accounts, some from government officials or eyewitness accounts of the horrors in the bahamas as you've also likely heard the accompanying worst-case scenarios about the death toll and how high it might rise and might very well. right now iz t hasn't and that'a good thing as we show you the
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pictures the reporters gathered and talked to people on the ground, we want to and will proceed cautiously because families in the bahamas, in the united states and around the world with loved ones on the island are reading every clip and watching for some sign of the people they have not heard from in days and many people have not been heard from. it is a horrible reality in times like these when phone lines are down and roads are impassable and governments are overwhelmed so with that, our first report cnn patrick has spent the day in high rock on the southern side of grand bahama island, one of the hardest hit before today we had not seen. >> reporter: reaching the hardest hit areas of grand bahama island means driving through still flooded streets and streets that are no longer streets. this area in the east of the island has until now been unaccessible until the storm. little to no help has arrived. the force of the hurricane through cars, through buildings.
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the storm stalled out here, the category five leveling whole towns. many rode out the storm in their homes, many did not survive. pastor joey sanders was on the third floor of his home with his son when the storm surge crashed in. >> started to make to the second floor of the house and been there for ten minutes and after the third floor, you know, the floor up to our head and the strong current trying to break loose everything. >> reporter: this was in the middle of the night? >> about 1:30 in the morning. and then the current was so strong, then the roof started to lift and that's when i remember i was underneath the water and my son standing, i noticed he had a search light and disappeared with the search light and i heard him screaming daddy, daddy, daddy. >> reporter: he was in the water at that point? >> he was gone. minutes later when i came from underneath the water, i caught on and roof carried me away. 600 feet away from each other
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for over two days and caught into the pine tree with 32 feet high. >> reporter: so the water carried you into a pine tree in the middle of the night and your son was aways away from you. what was going through your mind you must have been terrified. >> yes, i was hoping he was alive and he thought i had died, also. wasn't until the two days later that we saw one he was under the trailer there and that's when we saw one. >> reporter: the bahama government warned people the death count would spike. in places like high rock where everyone knows of dead and missing family and neighbors that news is no surprise. even though this is one of the hardest hit areas, help from the government is yet to arrive. >> the government is on its way. it will take a better time for other settlements but they are doing their thing gradually, you know. >> reporter: do you wish they were moving quicker? >> yes, i wish they were moving quicker. >> reporter: people desperately need food and water before time
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runs out. >> a lot of people have lost most of their clothes, water, need food, stuff like that, basic stuff right now. >> patrick joins us now. patrick, i mean, it's just a harrowing account. what else are you seeing and what more are people telling you just in terms of the response they are seeing? i mean, have people -- are there -- is there a big response on the ground now or is it still -- are people still waiting? >> reporter: people are still waiting is the answer. fr fre freeport is getting help now. there is a sense of some return to normalcy here. even though we still don't have water or power, there is a sense of that at least food is coming in and help is coming in but the hardest hit areas are not getting help. that's the irony of this. you drive an hour through this debris field to this town that
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was impassible because of the water on the road and like the hurricane just hit. it's a week ago the hurricane began hit thing area and nothing really has happened there and, you know, the little things that you notice, the families that have come from other parts of the bahamas to look for family members in places like high rock. they have gone themselves to see if they can find their own family members and talked to several of them and most of them had been unable to find anybody and usually don't recognize the neighborhoods because they have been completely changed by the storm. i remember today i gave somebody a bottled water, which is precious for us but somebody asks you for water, how do you say no? i noticed this person took a little sip dying of thirst. they took a sip because they knew they had to make it last. >> just in terms of recovery of people accounting for people, it's hard for us who are not
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there, we hear from an official hundreds of thousands of people are still missing, is it apparent when you're on the ground that there are, that there are people who have died, who have not been collected or i mean, what are you seeing on the ground? it's hard to get a sense. >> reporter: so it is. there is a big gulf between what the government says and the government just is for whatever reason, the resources have not come into this part of the bahamas as perhaps they have the abacos and it's a big disaster and they are strapped. i get that. we're mainly seeing u.s. coast guard presence. when you go around places like high rock and everybody knows everybody in these towns and they will tell you who is missing, who is dead and the numbers don't add up with numbers the government is giving us and then today when we were watching coast guard chopper go around in the area, the woods were -- we were, the residents said that the because there say body back there and they spotted
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it. that is still going on a couple days ago we were hoping that people could be recovered. i think that hope is no more. people couldn't have lived in these conditions so i talked to that preacher and he spent 40 hours in a tree and had to rescue himself and drive his son in for a medical condition. they never got help along the way so i think it is unfortunately at this point a recovery operation, and the numbers so far the government have released are very different from the sense you get on the ground when people tell you about missing and talk to you about the family and this house here swept away and we know they couldn't have made it and then you drive to certain areas and the stench is overwhelming and maybe that's animals that's been killed. we don't know but these areas, a week after the storm hit look pretty much the same and no one has seen any major government precedence any major government assistance. they are still waiting. >> patrick, appreciate it. thank you. a few hours ago, the prime minister of the bahamas thanked the u.s. for support saying there is still a quote long road
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ahead of us. the u.s. coast guard and other medical personnel have been arriving to help with the search and rescue mission. gary tuchman is with one group on the hard hit abaco islands today. >> reporter: we're in a section called mud and peas described as a largely haitian community. i've been covering hurricanes for about 37 years now. i've this. we are accompanying the u.s. coast guard. you can see them over here. this gives you an idea of why it's impossible to have a firm death toll. these coast guardsmen are about to go in this home to see if there is this cameras, the wide
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spread dessimation here. people are shell shocked. they don't know what to do. we saw more than 200 meal lined up. we're talking about utter devastation. >> i don't know about a goal. disaster, i lost everything. >> reporter: the reason they are in this line, more than 200 people with all their belongings is everyone had their house destroyed and hope to get a ship or boat. this gentleman here is telling them now this ship and i'll give you a look at the ship to the left, the ship that delivered would talk them to nassau. very happy about that. let me give you an idea what they are going through. what were you just told? will you be able to get on this boat and leave? >> yes, sir. >> you must be excited. >> definitely. >> what happened to your home?
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>> roof blowing off. >> i can tell you they were grateful. they will be able to board this freighter and had to nassau and take it from there but there is absolute desperation here. >> there is gary tuchman reporting joined by a member of the parliament in the bahamas and the responsibility and ministry of public works. mr. lewis, i appreciate you joining us. the prime minister today said he's satisfied with the speed of the government's response. are you? >> the government is doing everything they can. appreciate you having me. we are pleased with the speed that we are moving with and our speed has been aided by the fact that we have a partnership going on with the united states and neighbors so we have helped and that is making a major
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difference right now because it is much needed. i've seen members of the u.s. ars force and spoken and seen them as an advisory team under ground. we're happy that help is not only underway, help is here and the prime minister is right in this proclamation that we are moving as fast as we can and with the help of the united states and our neighboring partner partners. >> i understand your difficulties with the lack of resources to search. there is a lot of people that we have talked to that are reporters have talked to on the ground saying they wish they saw more of a government presence in the grand bahamas and abaco islands searching for the dead. you know, five days on or four days on right now the death toll
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still stands at 30, obviously officials have said it's likely to grow but does the government have any actual sense of how many people have perished, of how many are still missing or is it still unknown? >> it is still unknown. the police force is located downtown. most of the vehicles owned by the police force has been pretty much destroyed so we're relying on outside transportation to come in to assist us. we took defense force rangers out to east end grand bahamas this evening but for us to get there, we have to take heavy equipment through to make it drivable to get to those areas. part of the challenges that we have limited transportation. and the resources being done -- go ahead. >> i'm sorry, do you know how
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many search and rescue personnel are whether from the u.s. or -- i talked to the crime minister yesterday and said it's a team of 50 plus. do you have a sense how many search and rescue people there are actually on the ground doing searches? >> the number in grand bahama has grown. as well as the u.s. coast guard sending in another fleet tomorrow. so again, we have more than 50 right now. the numbers are certainly inflated since then and it's going to make a major difference. search, air search and rescue right now, we try to access them with the areas by boat and the floor. so that is restrictive. the best way to get to most of the restricted areas will be by air and again, most of our aircrafts has been demobilized. we are happy to say the airport
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itself is examined by the colonial from the united states air force doing seismic test and confirm the runway is stable and the area is a good staging point. so even when the u.s. air force comes in, i've seen two of the helicopters on the island today doing air patrol so tomorrow we'll be able to get a good understanding of numbers that they would have been able to rescue and also we can give an official count of the people in the bahamas and world what numbers we have. we can confirm who is no longer with us. >> i've been told by one person at times coast guard at least in one incidence, a coast guard held cop tomorrow had to wait for a long time to take off and had to wait in line for everybody else. is there a problem at all with sort of, you know, red tape of
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the normal rules that one would go through whether it's customs forms that you have to fill out or flight plans that you're supposed to file. is that getting in the way at all of the speed of the response at all? >> as it is now. the department is located in nassau. the air control tower in free port and we're relying on command from nassau. yesterday for instance, we had to close down at 6:00 because night was falling and we wanted to get the planes on the ground out. with respect to customs clearings. there is an order that was made. the form is simple. persons who are areceiving good it's a simple list. there are boxes to check. what is the destination? where is medical sup pipes, tents, mosquito netting.
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the ornl persnly person bringin would bring the freight and most of it is free of charge. the process is very clear. it's very easy. there is -- there was some confusion initially but no blockade. we're smooth sailing and people leaving the airpor are happy of course there is the harbor because of the highway is limited. the person getting in have given products. >> iram lewis. appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. thank you. >> i'm very appreciative of the fact. i want to say thank you to florida and i want to let you know that my hometown on the north side of grand bahama i have not been able to go to yet. i don't know what the condition of our home is. right now we are holding our breath but i am expecting the worst. hoping for the best. once again, thank you very much. >> yeah, well, we'll keep in
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touch with you. thank you very much. while cleanup and search and rescue missions commence. the president continues his week-long fight over a mistake about a hurricane tweet it's ridiculous. we'll not dwell on this. mexico won't pay for the wall but the children of the men and women and armed forces just may. we'll explain that ahead. >> we will build the wall. shrimp yeah! red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp,
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or is more reliable in keeping you connected. as we showed you, the pictures we're seeing from bat ha -- bahamas are devastating. five people have died in the u.s. as a result of the storm. hundreds of thousands are without power in the carolinas and virginia. president's reaction has been i guess a bit odd to it all to put it kindly. "new york times" white house correspondent and cnn political analyst maggie haberman joins me to make sense of it. maggie, i want to talk big picture in a minute and i don't want to talk much about or even say the word sharpie, which i just said but i know you have new reporting about who actually
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used that sharpie to draw that fake line on that map. >> it was the president. it came out of a meeting he had been having with fema officials earlier in either in the dining room off the oval office or in the oval office itself and having a conversation and drew on it and was the map he used but as with all things related to this, he ends up just unable to say yeah, i did it and i was doing it in the context of x, y, z. he doesn't know how it got there the samy he continued to insist he was right about where the storm forecast was on sunday as opposed to where it was days earlier. >> right. i mean, i feel like you and i have had this conversation so many times yet again, it's a meaningless lie that didn't have to be lied about. the fact that he continues to talk about this on this day, i mean, it just -- yeah. weird. >> we've seen him do a version of this anderson over and.
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[ overlapping speakers ] t -- over and over over the last five years trying to back fill his claims for the inauguration. that was not an event that had consequences in terms of what he was talking about whereas this one when you talk about a storm's path that impacts many, many people. it impacts whether people evacuated and have trust what the government says. this one is different. he tends to do this when he is incredibly stressed or anxious whatever is in front of him and burroughs down and obsesses on narrow thing that his aids don't totally understand and many of them have described feeling helpless over time to avoid help him deal with this or move him past this and he just clearly isn't going to let go of it and as you watch images of people whose homes are gone, it's hard to reconcile. >> is it clear to you how much of the president's time or, you know, energy or thought process -- you can't read his
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thoughts but thought process goes into this sharpie thing, alabama, the map issue, these rabbit holes he goes down. i mean, there is a lot of executive time i know and he spends a lot of time watching cable news and stuff and i assume there is a lot of people running around the white house trying to go down the rabbit holes with him and, you know, noah came out with a statement today justifying what the president said. is this a big time suck for him? >> it is. i mean, look, this -- as i said, he tends to burro and obsess on something very narrow that he tries to control, really narrow that he tries to control when there is all sorts of other chaos around him in this case it's the chaos and uncertainty around his own reelection and economy and a couple of other factors he's facing as president. it does take up a fair amount of time. it takes up the time of aids. what ends up happening is, you know, look, i'm not a mind reader neither of you.
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based on the descriptions we heard from people. aids will come in and out for meetings and brings this up in these meetings and then he'll have an erupt of temper and order something done about it after watching a cable segment or reading a story about the alabama issue and it just becomes self-triggering. >> maggie haberman, appreciate it. thank you. president trump's plan to divert military funds to pay for the border wall is running into backlash. could it backfire politically? we'll look at that ahead. through ancestry i learned so much about my grandparents that i never knew. i'm a lawyer now, but i had no idea that my grandfather was a federal judge in guatemala. my grandfather used his legal degree and his knowledge to help people that were voiceless in his country. that put a fire in my heart. it made me realize where i got my passion for social justice. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com
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as the news and death of dorian, the trump administration did something you might not notice to divert $3.5 billion from approved military construction projects to help pay for portions of the long promised border wall. that means, you, the taxpayer are paying for the wall if indeed its ever built. its at the expense of the military that the president has talked about lovingly, which is a far, far cry from who candidate trump said would pay for the wall.
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>> we are going to build a great border wall. who is going to pay for the wall? who is going to pay for the wall? who? it will be a great wall, mexico will pay for the wall. >> mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> mexico will pay for the wall. and mexico is going to pay for the wall and they understand that.mexico will pay for the wa. and mexico is going to pay for the wall and they understand that. mexico is going to pay for the wall. believe me, 100%. >> not true. wasn't happening. isn't happening now. not going to happen. as we mentioned, your taxpayers are footing the bill coming from military spending because the president couldn't get the approval from congress and in some of the communities affected by the recent propels, there is concern as well as anger. cnn's alex marquardt reports of the impact in one military town. >> reporter: norfolk virginia is home to the u.s. navy's atlantic fleet and largest naval base in
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the world. the area central and vital role in military operations and national security hasn't stopped the trump administration from naming four different military projects here whose almost $80 million in funding will be diverted to pay for the border wall. all of these projects are being lost for a wall that makes no sense and everybody knows it. democratic congressman bobby scott represented the district for almost three decades and says president trump's decision is costing his constituents jobs. >> it means that the jobs that could have come to the area won't come to the area. tens of millions of dollars worth of construction, that's a lot of economic impact to this area that we'll lose for a wall that is not needed. >> reporter: in all, $3.6 billion in military funds are being taken to help pay for the wall. 126 projects from firing ranges to aircraft hangers to child care, both at home and abroad
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whose budgets are being gutted. in virginia, the four that are losing $77 million in funding are a naval ship maintenance facility, two hazardous materials warehouse projects and a cyber operations facility. in a place with such a historic and important military heritage where 40% of the economy is related to military funding, that hurts both financially and emotionally. >> our community is a fabric built on military veterans and very healthy military population here in the region. i think there is a general sense of disappointment. >> reporter: bruce retired as a colonial last serving at langly air force base being stripped of the training. at a time when cyber attacks are one of the greatest threats to national security along with others that will now be ignored says democratic congresswoman
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eileen, a retired naval commander whose district is also affected. >> i know firsthand from having spoken to the commanders at the basis where this impact is going to happen, it's going to impact the mission and security. >> reporter: not just the security of the nation but those serving it whose priorities may not be addressed. >> it's your husband and neighbor and wife going on a deployment and you don't want to think that their ship wasn't maintained properly or didn't have the right tools they needed to do their job. it hits home a lot in a community like this where everyone is so tied to the military. >> reporter: alex marquardt, kr, -- cnn, virginia. >> it falls along political lines. democrats supportive or staying quiet. david joins me to talk about how this diversion of money might backfire on the president. >> david, the transfer of the money certainly is a reminder that all along the president was claiming that mexico was going
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to pay for this wall and we heard that over and over again. >> yeah, it was a call in response and the 2016 campaign with his most hardened supporters. we've known for sometime mexico is not going to be paying for the wall, that was clear from get-go. remember back in january, february, anderson, the defendant shut down over this. it was clear mexico wasn't going to pay for this. so that cat was sort of out of the bag but that didn't stop president trump from wanting to pursue the wall. >> there is also political ramifications in erm tterms of military bases are affected by these cuts and two what degree. i'm not sure if the pentagon, you know, takes that into account or if the white house insists of, you know, if they are reviewing, you know, what states colorado, florida, arizona, these cuts will take place in. >> yeah, and not just about the president's own reelection effort. the politics of that but
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probably even more dangerous for vulnerable republican incumbents especially running for senate in places you mentioned. arizona, colorado, north carolina all on the list for these cuts and projects and they have the most targeted republican senators by democrats who are trying to take over control of the senate. so there is no doubt, in fact, mitch mcconnell's spokesperson put out a statement saying mcconnell wants to review one of the projects in kentucky and make sure the money is there for it. >> you know, in normal times if a candidate has promised there will be a wall with a big beautiful door in it and everything will work great and mexico is going to pay for it and this doesn't happen, that candidate once they are running for reelection, they would face the wrath of voters for that. i don't know if the president's supporters care at this point one way or the other. it seems like he can promise anything and not deliver and it doesn't matter. >> yeah, i'd guess we do know and that is
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anderson. i don't think this has the potential to harm the president politically but again, those running on the ticket with him, they don't have that kind of teflon that the president has and what is happened here, he has given a political gift potentially to democrats who can make an argument, not get myered in the argument over border security and immigration but just make the argument two things that are really popular. you're taking money away from potential jobs and you are taking money away from the military, the very men and women we entrust. those are universally popular things and donald trump handed the democrats an opportunity to go after republicans on the ballot beneath him on those very scores. >> yeah, which is interesting. donald trump always says that how much he loves the military and supports them more than anybody else has. see how it plays out. thanks very much. >> sure. up next, a report joe biden's team is lowering expectations about winning iowa and new hampshire and his focus will be on winning other states.
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joe widbiden's team say it l not be a must-win team. politico's reporting says south carolina is a place where a win is everything for biden. joining me to discuss is a
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campaign co-chairman for the former vice president. congressman, good to have you on. appreciate it. does it make sense to you? does it concern you that five months out the biden team seems to be maybe lowering expectations for a win in iowa or new hampshire? >> no, i think that the one thing you don't want to do in a campaign is declare victory in a place before an election, then your voters get complacent and people expect you to win and may or may not go through bad weather to get out there to vote for you. i think that this race is so important, one thing we will never do is take voter for the granted and two, continue to bring our message to the voters and ask them for their support, their vote and prayers and i think that's exactly what we'll do in both iowa and new hampshire and nevada and south carolina. >> they are important to win for the president? >> i think every state is important to win, and i think everything state is important to have a great showing. some states you stack up better
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than others but for the most part, nobody is conceding the first two are the first four. numbers are still good. we'll continue to fight there. >> would you agree with what politico is saying. south carolina is a must win for the vice president. >> well, look, i think south carolina is important. i believe that the african american vote in south carolina is the first real state that has a significant portion of african american vote and i think that that influences other states. i think it is very important to do well in south carolina. part of the question is when it by what margin loses by what margin so i think a lot of it is a little more than do you just win. win by one point and loss by one point are the same. the question is do you win big and lose big in any of the four
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states? >> the latest jobs numbers out today are especially strong for african american unemployment. obviously, you know, president trump will be running and talking about that a lot. it's obviously great news for everybody in the country. is that going to hurt you think democrats whether it's vice president biden or anybody else from or i mean, is is that going to change african american support in south carolina in 2020? >> absolutely not. anderson. i've said this before when i was chair of the black caucus, the black unemployment rate during slavery was zero. it means nothing if you look at the people who are under employed, the people who are not seeking work if you look at the atmosphere that this president has created for black people in general, whether you're sleeping in your dormitory, common room at yale or barbecuing in a park in oakland or at starbucks or renting from an airbnb. african americans live in an
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increasingly hostile environment. i don't think you can take the unemployment rate and say that means everything is great for african americans and things are not. the struggle is real, and this president and what he says about go back to your country and all the other racist things he said, i do not think the jobs numbers matter. >> congressman, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> democratic strategists, ayesha moody mills. how risky of a strategy is this? i don't know if you call it a strategy the public lowering of expectations on iowa and new hampshire? >> well, i actually -- there is something else that is riskier, frankly than playing with the primary states. if you think about biden's strategy as we see it playing out right now, he is very much trying to appeal to a working class white part of the electret
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that went for donald trump that frankly an mit poll came out showing that many of those voters also have some racial amenist and trying to appeal to folk who may not be racist tendencies is something he will have to figure out. i'm reminded of lyndon johnson who everyone knew said racist things, was a racist in the sense he was a man of his time but also did some really amazing work around civil rights and moved us forward as a country and he was able to do that because it was a different era and different time. you can say hey, i'm with you black people but i'll talk mad about you in a different room. i wonder how joe biden navigates gaps over hugging a segregationist and gaps around calling barack obama clean and articulate and having conversations about black people is being poor and able to do that because the truth is some of the white people he's trying
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to pull appreciate that talk and at the same time, they will add up what african americans he's going after will look twice and say wait a minute, you're acting like a man of your era. you can't age in the 50s and 60s but this is different. black voters have a different type of power now and we're not going to be for someone who plays both sides. i think the risk is trying to appeal to everybody in a way that i don't know it will play out well on race. >> i guess, i mean, then the question is how solid do you think the former vice president's support is among african -- the african american community. is it hillary clinton had, you know, was the front runner and had the most important in the african american community until she didn't and barack obama, you know, we all know what happened. so is -- how solid is biden's support do you think? >> here is what i think he's doing well. he's doing right. the support we're seeing in the polls are the traditional african american voters, many of
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time now for the ridiculist. the president's latest target is
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jerome powell, the chairman of the federal reserve. he took a quick break from bing watching judge jeanine to complain about interest rates. you may recall the president himself appointed him. today the compost pile from which his most fertile phrases bloom, he failed to peg powell with one of his latest nicknames. when it comes to jerome powell, this was the best the president could do, quote, where did i find this guy, jerome? oh, well, you can't win them all. twitter doesn't have a voice, so just typing the name jerome doesn't work. that is his name. where did i find this guy jerome? oh, well, you can't win them all. that has no snide snarkiness. for this tweet to work the president is relying on you, the american people, to get in touch
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with your inner bully. you can do it. jerome. baby that's too campy. jerome. maybe that's more like it. that's more presidential, i think. jerome. it's like jerome was given a shimp cocktail and never said thank you. the reason, though, one can assume that president trump uses jerome as an insult is because mr. powell is called by his nickname jay and our very stable genius knows this. >> i've nominated jay to be our next federal chairman. jay, jay, jay, jay, jay, jay. now i would like to invite jay to say a few words. >> that was when he was jounsing him, so it's jay on the good days, jerome on the bad. i don't think that was a very good one. also let me state the obvious,
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there's nothing wrong with the name jerome. no matter how the president says it or tweets it, it's a fine, distinguished name. there's jerome robins, jerome david sallenger, even jerome seinfeld. you might have heard of him. this isn't the first time that the president has chose to use one of his favorite words. when speaker employepelosi cance state of the union, he cooked it up real good. >> we're supposed to be doing it and now nancy pelosi, or nancy, as i call her. >> oh, snap. burn. nancy, as i call her. haters going to hate, but beware, this president is a counter puncher and then he'll
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tear up your birth certificate. jerome is not showing his bothered by it which is what human adults should do. and as for president trump, well, it is almost the weekend and while many americans enjoy a couple days away from the noise, he'll have the volume cranked up on the golf course and on the ridiculist. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> saint jerome. nothing is wrong with jerome. i want that t-shirt. welcome to "prime time." fear of the unknown, that's what's spreading fastest in the bahamas because communities are now ghost towns and they're described as having a stench of death in the air. survivors say there are bodies everywhere. but authorities are overwhelmed, they're undermanned, they're dealing with flooding, impassable roads, limited