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tear up your birth certificate. jerome is not showing his bothered by it which is what human adults should do. and as for president trump, well, it is almost the weekend and while many americans enjoy a couple days away from the noise, he'll have the volume cranked up on the golf course and on the ridiculist. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> saint jerome. nothing is wrong with jerome. i want that t-shirt. welcome to "prime time." fear of the unknown, that's what's spreading fastest in the bahamas because communities are now ghost towns and they're described as having a stench of death in the air. survivors say there are bodies everywhere. but authorities are overwhelmed, they're undermanned, they're dealing with flooding, impassable roads, limited resources. tonight one of the island's most famous residents is answering
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calls for help and asking for more. lenny kravitz is here to tell us about what needs to be done and what he is doing. and the cdc now saying e-cigarettes, vaping, may be deadly. just as use is seemingly exploding in our country. a mother and father are here sounding that alarm after their own daughter's near death experience and the president now wants us to give him an apology for his alabama fiasco. really? we've got something for him. what do you say? let's get after it. the bahamas health minister is now issuing a public warning, prepare for, quote, unimaginable information on the loss of life and human suffering. what we do know is, there are thousands still missing. the death toll is expected to go far higher than what it stands
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out now which is 30. many survivors are still desperately trying to get off islands. cnn's victor blackwell flew over much of the destruction today. he has an update on rescue efforts. in nassau was not hit with the brunt of the storms. this fear of the unknown, how palpable is it on the ground? >> reporter: it's day five after the hurricane hit abaco, and people who have loved ones there, they just are unsatisfied with what they're getting from the government. this official number of 30, i've spoken to people who survived the storm and came over, i have heard the stories of more than 30 people who they say they watched go out into the storm or were hurt in the storm and lost their lives. listen, we're hearing these dramatic adjectives from officials, unimaginable, staggering when it comes to the death toll, but they're not
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committing to an estimate. we went there today to abaco, what i think people don't get, really, respect for or an appreciation for is the height of the rubble in some of these communities and what could be under there, the number of dead. just like we knew there were more than 64, the official number for so long in puerto rico after maria, the people here just cannot fathom that the number is so low even now five days after this storm. and people they've not been able to contact. >> so you have how they're doing their job and just what their capability is in terms of doing the job. when you think about infrastructure and resources from this government, you know, what do they have at their disposal. do they have enough to do this kind of canvassing job? >> so they do not have enough, but they do have a lot of help from the u.s., the u.s. air force here the coast guard is taking flights. they rescued another 43 people from abaco.
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disaster relief is out, they will be walking through the keys and looking for potential survivors. when it comes from the national emergency management agency, they have a hotline set up so people can call and get information. i called it several times yesterday, did not get an answer once. on the facebook page, there's a survey where people are expected to go and find out, what's your name? how old are you? how many people do you have with you? what's your address and phone number? people on abaco don't have internet access. so that's how the -- that's the infrastructure they've set up and, again, people here just not satisfied with that. >> wow. look, they're going to be dissatisfied. the question is for how long. you will never know what the toll is on the ground unless each of those streets are
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canvassed and walked. it's the only way it gets done. we've seen it time and time again, the numbers are going to change and change in a way that's going to make everybody very upset. thank you for being in there early and telling the story often. appreciate it, be safe. i want to bring in a well known bahamian doing what he can to help. he cares about the people on the ground in the bahamas. lenny kravitz has a home in the country and is working with the let love rule foundation to rush aid to survivors. here's the interview. >> lenny kravitz, thank you very much for joining us on "prime time." >> good evening. how are you, chris? >> i'm doing well, certainly better than your brothers and sisters down in the bahamas right now. you spend a lot of your time on the island which is due east from nassau. you didn't see the brunt of this hurricane the way great bahama did and abaco, but how is
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everybody in your world down there? is everything okay? >> it made a bit of a mess, we had very high winds, but as you know, we got the edge of the storm, but we've had no destruction. we were very fortunate, unlike the good people of the abacos and freeport. >> that's why you're mobilizing with your foundation because the need is going to be very great. i'm hoping you can help me a little bit with perspective on this. my fear is tun known. i don't think that they know how many people have been lost. i don't know that they know who's missing and i don't know that they have the resources to figure it out very quickly. what do you know? >> i've talked to a lot of family back in nassau and there are a lot of people that have not been heard from. so we don't know all of the answers yet. but, yes, they're going to find
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a lot as the days and the weeks move on. we've never seen anything like this, this is absolutely, you know, monumental. >> what do you want people to know about the place that you've come to call home and what the need may be like in the near and distant future? >> well, the bahamas is a beautiful, beautiful country with beautiful people and pristine water. i spent my whole life there. and it's the place i call home. it's very special to me. and people around the world love what the bahamas has to offer. you can go to bahamas.com/relief, an easy way to start. another thing that people can do is to continue to support the bahamas. so many islands did not get hit. and tourism is what we, you know, count on. so there's nassau and other
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islands. if people would continue to travel to the bahamas and enjoy its beauty, that will help our economy, help the people, help the locals keep thriving. >> you've been donating to several charities so far. you have your own foundation. you've directed people to the bahamas.com. is there any type of help in particular you want to draw attention to at this point? >> right now is stage one. you know, through my organization, the let love rule foundation, we have boats that will be leaving my island tomorrow filled with basic needs, generators, chainsaws, water, roofing materials, drop cloths. things so people can get dry, they can have some shelter, food, et cetera we've had medical, you know, equipment and meds sent over as well. but the end goal is to get the
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islands back on their feet and for me it's so important that the locals get their housing back, get their lives back and that's going to take a great effort. i've been on the phone all day today talking to lots of people in my business and other businesses as to how we're going to come together and really help the bahamas. and i was on the phone just a few minutes ago with reese witherspoon who lives down in the abacos and we're talking about what we can do. as the days progress, we will continue to figure things out and continue, that's the key, is to continue until everybody is back on their feet. >> here's what i will tell you, we're talking to you tonight because it matters. i'll talk to you in a week because it matters. i'll talk to you a month because it matters. you get us the information about what is needed and what you're learning through your foundation. we will put the word out. if this situation starts to
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reveal a new layer of tragedy, once what is unknown is known, we will be there and tell people the story, you know, our brothers and sisters, it's certainly beautiful. it's right off of our shores and it should matter to us as much as home. thank you for coming on. you let us know what we need to tell people, we'll get the word out. >> i appreciate that very much. and i'll be on the ground as soon as i get through the end of this tour. i will be there and on the ground and i will keep you updated. thank you so much. >> lenny foundation is the let love rule foundation. you can find it on your own. now, let's switch to the president who seems to want to let lies rule. he could be fixated on helping the bahamas or getting congress to make some deals for you, but he is obsessed with proving he was right when he was dead wrong.
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this, 14 to your point, eight tweets, six on camera comments, eight and six, 14 times donald trump -- i don't know, double down, triple down, i don't know what 14 times down is, but 14 times went back to this thing that was not true at the start. i don't care how many times he tweets about it, i don't care what kind of statements he gets his administration to put out. it wasn't true then, it isn't true now. >> why does this matter? >> it matters a couple things, i think the big reason it matters is because donald trump doesn't tell the truth. we know that. that's a given. but this involves people's well-being, telling people that they need to be worried when they don't. and number two, if you are so obsessed with being right, chris, while people are in
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danger, okay, while he was doing all of these 14 times, the hurricane was actually impacting states like georgia, north carolina, south carolina, parts of virginia. so while he's tweeting these defenses wednesday, thursday, even today, about why he was right about alabama, who cares? he's wrong. but who cares? because americans -- last time i checked he represents north carolina and south carolina. they're part of the america. he's their president too. he's taking his eye off of that. he's getting staff to put out statements, all of this is a distraction and not what it means to be president. >> so before you tell me whether or not you're going to heed his call to apology, 14 is also a certain number of representatives who have said they're not going to run. >> it's remarkable. the tweets and appearances and all of that, the other reason, it matters, 14 republican members of congress are retiring this week. why does that matter? i'll tell you, out of that 14,
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12 are just leaving. they're not running for any other office, not running for governor, senate. they're retiring. compare that to 2018, 14 at around this time were also retiring, same number. you know how many of those were running for other higher offices? nine. what does that tell you? the house minority is not a great place to be. trump's washington, they're worried about losing. it's uncertain, it's unstable and they want to walk away. >> chris cillizza, thank you for that pithy take on 14. i will take your silence as not acceptance and you will not apologize. >> i will not apologize. >> so what have we seen? government officials falling on their sword for this president to help prove something right that was wrong. this about a lot more than a
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sharpie gate far from over. the president's obsession escalating tonight with this, noah disavowing the tweet from the national weather service saying the field office spoke in absolute terms that was inconsistent with the best available forecasts at the time. ask me -- answer me this question, why would noaa correct a suggestion that wound up being accurate? have they ever done that before? the answer is no. that's the start of tonight's great debate with karen finney. the president of the national weather service put out a tweet, do we have that? nope. but i'll fake it. here's what he said, i'll put it up for you, let me assure you
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the hard working employees of the nws had nothing to do with the utterly disgusting and disingenuous tweet sent out by noaa management tonight. why is the president making people in positions of power echo his error? >> because there's another missing piece of the puzzle which is that the national hurricane center issued a number of maps from the 27th of august through the 3rd of september several of which showed that alabama did have a 30% chance, as high, as high as a 30% chance of getting hit by the hurricane and it is based on some of those reports that the president made his estimation. >> point of fact, on the sunday that he made this statement, these were the only available maps that he would have been shown, assuming he looked at anything. >> right.
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>> there is no reasonable basis on -- unless you want to look at outer wind bands. >> right. >> that would justify this. >> well, and no reason why he couldn't have tweeted, hey, great news, alabama is out of the woods, right? because here's the thing, chris, that i think is so important and i think this is a little bit of what chris was getting at, what we're seeing here, we had a warning of this in 2016 when hillary clinton did a policy speech and talked about the president -- talked about trump as having thin skinned. he does an interview with jake tapper and talks about what good skin he has. so we had a preview that this was the kind of person that was going -- that we were electing here. but two important things about this incident, number one, his ego and skin is so thin, he's willing to put americans' lives in danger. he's told everybody, fake news, i'm the only one you can believe. if you're in alabama and you see that tweet from trump, what are you supposed to think? who are you supposed to trust?
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do i get my kids -- >> i put the brakes on in terms of what damage he did. i'm not about him putting people in danger with what he said. that's not my -- that's -- i'll push back on that. what i'm saying is this, he made a mistake. why would you justify it when you know it was a mistake, you know it was wrong, and if anybody said it, other than this president, you wouldn't be torturing yourself with an explanation right now. >> i will tell you why, and i'm going to flip the script on this segment and i'm going to give you some words, school bully, dog abuser, racist 1,000 times and some ten thousand ways, sexist, lyiar, murder, these ar just a few of the words that presidents, republican presidents and former republican presidential candidates have
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been called by various campaigns, including yours, karen, and by members of the mainstream media for 20 years. trump saw that -- here's my point, trump saw that as a future candidate and he said, the era of turn your cheek republicanism has come to an end. anytime a -- >> first of all, newt said the same thing. hold on a second. i don't like what people call people ugly names. i don't let it happen on my show. you've seen that in realtime. but it's also a complete distraction from the point that he was wrong, and now he's going to people around him and saying, you got to take one for the team. and that is a dangerous thing to do because if you'll do it with this little stuff, what happens when he needs to justify saving his behind on the big stuff. >> can i -- to that point -- >> to that point, it is very
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disturbing, what we're seeing here is the president of the united states, he controls noaa -- >> that's why they put out the tweet. you saw what the president said. >> that's an abuse of his power. on something so small as you point out. it does make me wonder would he be willing to do it on something larger. how about -- >> why do you have to wonder. he has done it -- >> i'm trying to -- >> people in the caverns were mostly murders and rapists. he said there were people celebrating on the roof after 9/11. it happens time and time again. >> and he also -- he is so thin skinned and spiteful, when nancy pelosi wouldn't let him give the state of the union speech during the government shutdown for legitimate reasons, because some of the people who had to work were technically not working, he leaked the fact that there was a secret trip that was happening with nancy pelosi and a congressional delegation to afghanistan, right, and said -- there was a tweet about how
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he -- so the point is, he doesn't just lie, he is spiteful. the thin skin means spite. he attacked mayor nan whaley and senator sherrod brown in the aftermath of that trip. >> karen, i'll tell you what, i don't even care about the name-calling. they're all grown-ups. they're all in a snake pit. he can be spiteful, i'm not taking issue with any of that, and people can decide. here's what is objective, the man is distorting reality to advance a farce, there were no models that showed alabama getting hit on sunday when we were told he was getting hourly updates. i put the map up there -- >> according to the -- but according to the various reports, this is from an ap
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story, according to various reports that he got from the 27th of -- >> but not on the sunday that he made this statement. at a minimum, he was relying on old information. >> alabama was in the range. >> no. not on sunday. >> they had a 30% chance of getting hit. >> not on sunday. >> look, the fact is, the president can walk and chew gum at the same time. >> not on sunday. >> not going down that rabbit hole. >> it's not a rabbit hole. it's the only hole. hold on, don't overtalk me. on sunday, that's when he made the statement. we were told he was getting hourly updates, the updates came from a set of models that we keep putting up on the screen that cannot lead you logically to the conclusion he reached. maybe he was going off of old information and maybe that's why he was wrong, or he misheard, or he pretended, whatever it was, you cannot make him right.
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he was wrong. and then the problem becomes you're defending something you know is indefensible. >> i would professor, that he talk about the record low unemployment, that he would -- >> but you won't call him out for doing this. you'll say you prefer it. you prefer he rather, you wish both sides would stop, but you won't tell him, stop saying this. if it were obama who did it, you would be all over them, fair point? >> you said it, chris, maybe he relied on older reports. but the fact that -- the fact of the matter is, at the point that the media went and dove in on this alabamagate or inkgate -- >> it's because he drew a fake cone on a map.
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>> look, chris -- >> who does that? >> on cnn, on anderson's show which is on an hour ago, you had a member of the bahamian parliament that was applauding the engagement of the united states government -- >> in the bahamas. >> after the president of the united states talked to the prime minister and promised engagement. his engagement not only what the states have been hit, the carolinas, and virginia from fema are engaged and in involved, but he is even helping our neighbors to the south in the bahamas. he can walk and chew gum at the same time. does he take a thrill at fighting the media and doing the ping-pong match on this? yes, he does. i wish he would spend more time on talking about this -- >> i gave you all the chances i can. i am out of time. the man was wrong. he's trying to get people to pretend he was right. he drew a fake cone on a map,
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it's all wrong. and if he wants us to talk more about the things that he does is right, he's got to stop with so many violations that abuse his office. but it's friday night, you came in and made the case, i thank you both and i like what you're wearing. i'll talk to you later. >> thanks. another big issue that isn't getting enough attention, vaping. we see it all over the place. so many kids, it's one of the main things that we're dealing with with parents and teens right now, right? the cdc now says what seemed like common sense, you're breathing in all of these chemicals, it may not be safe. who says it? parents of a teen who almost lost her life after vaping. they are here to give you a warning that we should all heed, next. what's going on? it's the 3pm slump.
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here's the raw reality, people have died. the cdc and others are racing to figure out why. common link at this point appears to be vaping. what are the numbers? at least 450 cases of severe lung-related diseases. 33 states and the virgin islands. who? young, healthy people. here's one on your screen right
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now. 18-year-old piper johnson. very healthy, everything is fine. suddenly, very sick. happened while she was driving to her parents to college. we asked her mother and father to join us to tell their story. thank god piper is doing better. she's in college, but what do you want people to know and thank you for sharing your story. >> thanks for having us, chris. >> thank you for having us. what we want parents to know is that our kids have been told that these devices, that these substances are safe and we're finding out now that they're not and it's an epidemic. it's in the schools. it's being passed from teen to teen. it's as far down as the middle schools and they're causing serious damage. >> look, we see vaping all over the place. i'm a parent. i got a 16-year-old, 13-year-old, 9-year-old. i'm seeing it all over the place, very close to home.
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tim, i told them that she was in the car with you. what kind of use was she making with the vape and what happened to her. >> she was with ruby. ruby and piper left on what would be friday, august 15th, i believe -- >> 16th. >> 16th and they started driving to colorado. they broke the drive up into two days because it's about a 14-hour ride. i'll let ruby take it from here. >> what happened? >> when we got in the car on friday morning, she said that her chest hurt a little bit and she was kind of coughing and she said, i feel like i have bronchitis or something. and i'm thinking, we're driving you to college and now you're telling me you don't feel well. i kind of kept an eye on her. and i said, maybe we'll stop at a quick clinic and get you checked out. and we stayed in nebraska for the night and i could tell that she was feeling worse and she
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woke up early in the morning, was vomiting. we finished the drive to colorado. went straight to an urgent care in greeley and when they take a look at her, they said we think she's got an early pneumonia, she had a fever, low oxygen. and when they did a chest x-ray, it looked pretty clear, but the doctor said she wanted us to come back. when we came back the next morning, after some medicine -- >> when did they discover it had something to do with the vaping? >> the questions the doctors ask are you a smoker, and they said even e-cigarette use and she said yes. she said, mom, i've been vaping, but i quit about a week ago because my chest started to hurt. so the admitting doctor at the hospital was the one who kind of
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started to put and two together and said we're kind of right in the middle of this outbreak of cases and this sounds like what i'm hearing coming out of the midwest, and it just -- she just declined. she went up to 35 liters of oxygen. her cat scans showed she had a disfuse -- >> did they say what caused it? we've been reading reports about some vitamin e oil that's in some of the -- some of the vapes that have thc in them snnchts they asked her and she was very honest. she said she had vaped both v k nicotine and thc. then they said, this is what we're seeing, this is consistent, our doctor did a lot of research, reached out to other hospitals and doctors and put two and two together. i really think that when he did that and they started a steroid,
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that was what i think saved her. it really started to turn her around. but she was in the hospital in the icu for a week. >> here's the good news, thank god she's okay. she's passed it and hopefully it's going to inform her choices going forward. here's the hard numbers, no way any company is going to say this was because of them. no way. >> absolutely. >> it's going to have to be proven. we've lived through this before. i believe it could be the next tobacco and i'm not indicting any company, but this is how it happened then too. prove it's from the device, prove it's from the steam, it's not some chemical we have nothing to do with it. we keep hearing stories like pipers, young, healthy, good, vaping, sick, then very sick. thank god your story has ended the way it has. thank you so much for sharing it with us and thank you for being a cautionary message for other
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>> the guy i'm asking. >> live your own life. i'm not going to judge them. it seems odd that someone of that age would be having a baby. i don't want to be an agest or anything, but you do what's right for you, i do what's right for me. i'm not going to judge them. it is a bit odd. we have -- we have great advances when it comes to medicine now and so let's just see. i'm going to be a bystander on this one. >> two questions, not me, i'm always in, baby. >> i know. >> one, ethical considerations for the doctors, this is an interesting conversation for me. just because you can, should you? and that's interesting. what parameters are there? when do they ask questions? when do they make a decision back and forth. are you with me on that? >> yeah, i'm with you. >> you have those ethical questions about whether or not you're doing this because what
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is the standard. the standard isn't if you can make it happen, it's what's the best interest of the child. if these parents, let's say they live to be something short of a hundred, is it okay that let's say if they're really lucky, they get 15 years with these parents, maybe they get less. does that matter? >> they got 15 good years with parents who love them and wanted to have them. listen, i would imagine that the consideration that you mentioned before about the health of the baby and the mother, i would imagine -- i would hope that they took that into consider before bringing a baby to term, before bringing a baby into the world. so maybe that should be the standard, if the baby is healthy, then you can go along with it. i'm not going to judge. i'm not there, i don't know the specifics of their -- of her treatment and his treatment and, you know, what all went into it. but, you know, i think about, you know, some kids don't get any time with any parents because their parents leave them and they're put up for adoption
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and they're in foster homes. they get 15 good years, good for them and hopefully they will move onto another family and get many more good years. >> by all accounts, the babies are if you look online you will be blown away. >> sharpie gate and pat trying to rewrite history when it comes to the forecast for dorian and hitting alabama. we have a woman on. on the show last night she predicted this would happen. when the system gets corrupted and people try to make up sfrt president, and make the president accurate. she'll talk about she predicted it. watch what he says. why it's sto important. >> i like it. >> the president wants an apology. sorry for going after his alabama gaffe. never going to happen. something else is what we have for him. it's in the closing argument. at t-mobile,
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no apology, mr. president. you can bully those beholden to you to take the fall. it was still false. and more and more you're acting like something that we thought was just fiction. quote who controls the past controls the future. who controls the present controls the past. that's from 1984. this president wants to control the present by having people change the past. backing up fake 9/11 celebrations. fake crowd sizes with fake charts. fake descriptions of a fake brown menace. now what would be petty if it were not part of such a pernicious pattern. when george wrote this it was fiction. now it's just frightening.
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here's where we are. trump tweeted on sunday in addition to florida, south carolina, north carolina, georgia and alabama will most likely be hit much harder. at the time on sunday when he said it, it was not true. the path had changed. so at best, he was relying on old information. but the idea that he was briefed on sunday that alabama was still in major danger, look at it. believe your eyes. alabama was no longer a threatened in any real way. not much harder than anticipated. the opposite was true. within minutes, the national weather service of birmingham part of noah. pointed it out. alabama will not see any impact from dorian. then came the next page. the party keeps repeating. two and two is five.
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trump repeated the lie over and over. faking a map in the oval office. that's the sharpie gate. forced the farce on other parts of the government. tonight a new press release. no name attached. says quote information provided by noah in the national hurricane center to president trump demonstrated tropical storm force winds from hurricane dorian could impact alabama. quote the national weather service is sunday morning tweet spoken absolute terps that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time. the employee union president didn't take it lying down. let me assure you the hard working employees of the had nothing to do with the disgusting and disengeneral yous tweet sent out by management tonight. understandable anger. that anonymous noah statement an argument that a tiny sliver of
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alabama that wasn't in the hurricane cone with minimal potential to see tropical force winds make it's okay. look at the key at the bottom. it was 5 to 10%. he's just wrong. the same chance as the white house seeing high winds. long island, he didn't seem concerned about those possibilities and shouldn't have been. the facts are clear. the mode els on sunday do not justify what he said sunday. he won't say it was based on old information. or just wrong. dorian didn't threaten alabama. he was wrong he is wrong. his people keep coming oun and off camera to say if you'll let it go. he will too. no. i will never apologize for calling out power when they abuse the same. what you ignore you empower. and those who cover for the behavior are complicit. this is not just about the facts he's dead wrong on those. it's about a fiction of
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proportion. this president will say and do anything to protect himself in his interests. and that is a manifest abuse of power. what's worse, he'll do it to your face. >> the map you drew looked like a sharpie. >> i don't know. >> he doesn't know. really? he doesn't know who drew that? the "washington post" reports the president himself made the edit. he's playing you for a sucker. he believes if he tells you enough he's right, it will no longer be wrong. another quote from 1984. the first line. it was a bright cold day in april. and the clocks were striking 13. how could that be? the result of those in power forcing people to believe things. the common sense. he made the premise exaggerated
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sense of authoritarian state. much of fiction is now in our face. that's all for us tonight. thank you for watching. there's a lot of news. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon has it. >> it's really unbelievable, isn't it? if you just -- we have go into explaining all the sayings and the meteorologists. one of the things he's talking about was on this show. it was one of our meteorologists who is giving different scenarios about this way and that way. it was in an official thing from noah. but you remember the beginning he says one is it could go into the gulf. eight days ago. four days before the president made his -- it's just. i'm tired. >> not me. >> i'm tired. i'm tired of the you know what and the lies and the

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