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she is running for congress and putting her new values to use in this ad. >> now i'm running for congress because we're going backwards on national security, health care and women's rights. >> we begin the hour with the life and death fallout from the collapse of an eye-popping presidential idea. invite the taliban to camp david during 9/11 anniversary week in an effort to end america's longest war. president trump himself revealed the abandoned plan late saturday night on twitter. it included bringing afghanistan's president to camp david, too, with the goal of putting a period on america's 18-year entanglement in afghanistan. today the talks are dead and the nation's top negotiator has been called. the taliban warned that

interrupting these abrupt negotiations means more americans will die. among them, vice president mike pence and john bolton. opening the taliban with terrorists was a mistake. they expressed deep reservations about offering the group that gave al qaeda a safe haven. a wow from the president revealing this, and from your reporting and others at cnn proves the president is getting a lot of conflicting advice here. >> that's right, john. as you laid out there, there was some intense internal disagreement about this decision in the first place that president trump made to invite leaders from the taliban and leaders from the afghan government camp david. as you said, it was national

security officer john bolton and vice president pence who both told the president it wasn't a good idea. they said there would be la backlash on doing this during the week that commemorates 9/11. sure enough, the president went a led with the decision to call for this meeting, and then he went ahead with the decision to call it off. yesterday we saw secretary of state mike pompeo doing a round of interviews on the sunday shows, defending the president, both his decision to host the meeting, saying there had been discussions with the taliban and the president thought that he could push forward those discussions. that's why he thought it should still happen from camp david buchlt he also defended the president in calling off these talks and saying the taliban really had to rekbhat thermt, and they're discussing these

negotiations between the u.s. and the taliban. the question is, when do they get back to the table and what are the pre-conditions to get back to the table? secretary mike pompeo didn't lay that out specifically, so over the next week, we'll have to see what happens. one thing is for certain. >> we'll watch that, kylie, in the days ahead. with me to show their reporting and insights, abby phillip, john ki kirby and john watt. a presidential retreat 9/11 anniversary week. you work the state department and the pentagon. the idea that this almost came to be is what? >> a little stunning, to be honest with you. it has all the feeling of

something that was very rushed, not much of an interagency process or decision making done. very little diplomacy done on the front end. it almost feels a little like annoy where the president was advised, we're not ready to sit down with kim jong-un in hanoi and he did it, anyway. clearly the conditions were not set and ready for there to be a meaningful negotiation between the taliban and stt, but that's something that has to happen pd. the taliban says americans will die because of that decision to end the negotiations and not sign a deal between thely, which you know is unworkable if you look at the situation on the ground. there's secretary of state mike pompeo. the president wants to bring those troops home. how many, how fast?

>> so 14,000 is where it stays for the foreseeable future. >> i can't answer that question. >> because it was in the deal that within 135 days was going to 85 days, and the president said that would absolutely happen. >> we are intent on reducing the rest that have more folks coming through dover. >> it appears the way this collapsed increases the risk. now you have an angry taliban, now you have an african government not knowing what's going on. the idea is horrifying that the taliban would kill people needlessly, so this tough talk could end up emboldening them on the ground, putting america and others in danger. with president trump, we kind of always find ourselves in this situation, and the question of when and how and if talks resume, in the same way they

were just ended on twitter, they can be resumed in some ways just as quickly if president trump decides that the conditions are right. it seemed in some ways like his reasoning for calling off the talks was a little bit pretextual. perhaps he realized the symbolism of doing it this week didn't work out, but the idea that suddenly the taliban killing people is something new about the situation just does not seem right, and so for that reason, it seems possible that he could decide in the future, you know, the time is right, i want to move forward with this and create an environment. just like with kim jong-un, when we were in dor korea walking ov the dmz line where he just does it. it's not clear there will be a clear outcome to come out of it. >> he just does it, you say. secretary of state trying to explain it on television. the vice president, we're told, thinking bad idea. both a conservative i don't trust the deal, and how could you do this at week 11 at camp

david? the security adviser, known to be a hawk on this issue, didn't want this deal. richard haas served in previous administrations in the state department saying the president, too, trusts himself. >> it shows the president's unlimited and totally misplaced confidence in tree and the power of his own personality. the taliban are not a negotiating partner. if that's what you want to do, fine, but let's not confuse it with peace. all we're doing is leaving and selling out our partners. talking to the taliban is something you must do. however, to richard's point there, there is no good deal here. >> that's what the president wants, withdrawal.

this is a big promise that he made to his base, i'm going to get out of these never-ending wars. he's looking for a foot thepath there. congress is back today. a lot more pushback from the hill, i would expect, as they meet here. we've already seen some. to a lot of republicans, this is just outrageous. surprisingly, some of them have been voicing that already. >> you mentioned that other presidents have had to deal with this, too. president trump, there is always a tweet for that, criticized president obama for talking with the taliban when he was president. i think it maybe was in 2014. so he's seeing firsthand how difficult this can be, how these negotiations are frought, and he is seeing the bipartisan pushback he got for even attempting to stagecraft this. >> to that point, barack obama in 2008 ran, saying, i will end the wars in iraq and afghanistan, left officers with

troops in both iraq and afghanistan. he said, i want to end the conversation with you, admiral, because of involvements in the past. what now? >> where are we going with the negotiations? are they off or can they be started again. and the ghani government -- >> he won't talk to the ghani government. >> right. is it a complete withdrawal or are you going to leave counterterrorism force? if you do, the war is not over no matter how much he wants to argue with that. you'll be dealing with president ghani going forward and he is a negotiating partner you have to take seriously. i would like to see this administration put as much energy in figuring out how we're going to support a free and fair election in afghanistan as they have in these talks. >> we're watching again the threat of taliban violence.

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returns today after a long summer break. the debate and to-do list is long and consequential. gun legislation follows the list after the recess. only 21 days until the government would shut down. on trade, many lawmakers, including some house democrats, getting impatient to ratify the usmca. amid all of this, the house speaker nancy pelosi says democrats are pushing forward on at least three investigations involving the president. cnn's manu raju joins us live on capitol hill. a big vote this week on a possible impeachment. fill us in. >> the house will vote to formalize its process and hearings, saying what they're doing is essentially an impeachment investigation. what this resolution does is set the ground rules for how these hearings will be carried out, things like staff attorneys can question witnesses, which is

something typically not done. it will be similar to what happened in 1974 when the house committee adopted its rules on the nixon proceedings. i'm told that house speaker nancy pelosi, who has resisted moving forward, she actually supports this resolution that the house judicial committee will adopt. john, i just spoke to people saying it's correct what the house is doing right now is impeachment litigation. the house with the formal impeachment inquiry and the democrats on that same committee, john, plan to make a decision about whether to formally recommend articles of impeachment by the end of the year. that is their goal, but that could be complicated by the court fights that are tied up, including trying to get former white house counsel don mcgahn to testify. that issue also being wrapped up. john, one reason, of course, why the speaker has not been fully on board with impeachment proceedings, she doesn't want to

overshadow the debate they want to talk about this afternoon on guns, even though democrats are saying it's time to impeach. john? >> that's just the democratic pressure. a lot of questions in the senate, a lot of questions of what the president can get out of this. matt, i tried to give you back to your former employer there. sorry about that. the question for democrats here is, you know, you're going to keep encouraging, now you're calling it an impeachment investigation. it's not impeachment, there are no articles of impeachment for the house of representatives. if you keep saying, our base wants this, we believe there are genuine areas of inquiry. at what point do you reach, we're all in or you pull back as we head into an election year? >> these next four months are crucial for that, crucial for the legislative agenda as well as that question. it is sort of a tap dance nancy pelosi has done, somewhat effectively so far, but this sort of next phase sort of changes that, where it is

difficult if you're going to go all in to go toward impeachment, to increase their investigative powers or not. president trump keeps giving them more ammunition. they've also turned toward investigating him and his properties as we saw the vice president saying. i think there are other things they want to dig into, but this question looming makes it hard to keep pouring on. >> is there a point where nancy pelosi cannot control this? she wants to say keep investigating, keep she investigating. she doesn't think impeachment is a winner. will there come a point where she can't stop it? >> that's a lot different than a vote to start an impeachment inquiry. so they can look like they're having an impeachment inquiry, which they know speaker pelosi doesn't want to do. i do think that as they go through the next few months

here, they'll have to figure it out. the leadership attitude has been it's going to be really hard to move forward in presidential election year on impeachment. they look pretty good right now in holding onto the house and things are shaping up for them. i don't think they want to blow that. however, i will say, you know, it turned out the errant forecast about alabama was a crime, so they can add that to the list. >> that will even bring additional pressure if you have a top of the democratic ticket going after it who is running against donald trump who is supporting impeachment. what do you do then when you have an actual functioning leader of the party? that's something we know nancy pelosi has to be preparing for. >> one thing i think you're seeing in the democrats running against trump, the environment in the last couple days with the stories about the air force stopping the plane near his

resort in scotland, about the vice president staying at his resort in ireland, all of these stories are creating an environment where democrats are starting to talk more and more about corruption. i was in new hampshire this weekend. several candidates brought up both of those stories, and it was kind of a big hit, particularly among democrats. so there is this fine line between sort of illuminating some of these stories that frankly the trump camp is worried about, and going full force into an impeachment inquiry, if you thread that line carefully, it could be beneficial to democrats. and it's clear, based on the president's tweets this morning, he's a little bit worried about some of these stories. he's been disavowing them all morning. >> the question for democrats is do you want to air them out on the campaign trail and let them move forward, or do you move forward with some sort of inquiry? i think you're right, they're trying to thread a needle.

>> some of these people are facing primaries now. they have to be for impeachment but that doesn't mean the party leadership really wants to go ahead. >> so you had four more shootings during the congressional recess. democrats including schumer and nancy pelosi, your personal intervention is needed. you have the ability to save lives simply by indicating your support for h.r. 8. you have the unique opportunity to save lives by giving political cover to your fellow republicans. the president is not going to pass the house bill, but there is talk, and schumer and nancy pelosi says, if he is consistent, i will do something like background checks and red flag laws. as congress comes back, pressure is on the president to say, what will you do? or nothing. >> it's funny how they're looking to each other for leadership on this. it's so interesting, so much of

these issues today are breaking down partisan lines. those haven't moved in partisan ways you have on divisive issues. so there does seem to be, at least in the public, an effort and eagerness to address the issue. as you have a couple months before things turn to 2020 completely, there is a chance to look at suburban voters. >> to that point about suburban voters, "washington post" abc news poll, who do you trust more to handle gun laws? 59% of women trust congress on gun laws more. if you're trying to reverse your support for women, here's your opportunity. on the flip side, they're worried it would demoralize his base. back to the question, both parties, thicnk about the base.

>> that is the question for the president, but to your point about background checks, look what walmart did. you saw it reflected on other businesses saying, this is an open carry state. please don't open carry in our stores. you're seeing american business take the ball where you're not seeing congress do it. perhaps that's what we'll see, more movement, before the end of the year. >> that's a great point. and as lawmakers come back, how many of his members say, we have to try to do something, or maybe not. we'll see. that's the question. up next, the new plan kamala harris hopes will he's voters' minds about her as a prosecutor. . just another reminder of the value you'll find at fidelity. open an account today. get unlimited talk, text and data with our most powerful signal ever- all for just $30 bucks a line for 4 lines. and for a limited time, get free smartphones too!

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wai want to get to an important story we're following this hour. a judge putting up a big roadblock on who can apply for asylum. jessica here with the latest decision. >> john, this has been a back and forth all summer long. this negotiation is back in place after what was a short-lived victory period for the trump administration, and it all involves an asylum policy that was issued a few months ago. this was a policy that would ban

immigrants from central american countries, for example, who would travel to mexico, it would ban them from claiming asylum here in the united states, saying they should have done it in mexico or another third safe country along the way. so in july the ninth circuit said it could go partially into effect. this was surprising, of course, because president trump has repeatedly slammed the ninth circuit as biased between him and his administration, but in july it did say this policy could go partially into effect. but just minutes ago, a federal judge in california once again issued a nationwide hold on this policy, saying it cannot go into effect at all. now, as part of the order, this was from u.s. district court judge john tegar, and he said this. he said, the primary reason a nationwide injunction is appropriate is that it is the only means of affording complete relief. so this is really a victory for immigrants rights groups, but it is yet another defeat for the trump administration when it comes to limiting immigration. and john, we've seen the

administration officials speak out about this, about judges unilaterally issuing these nationwide injunctions. in fact, it was just last week that the attorney general william barr wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal" saying individual judges shouldn't be able to slap these nationwide injunctions on administrative policies. that is exactly what this california judge has done once again, putting on hold once again this asylum policy from the trump administration. >> we will be in another court litigating that decision soon enough, i would suspect. jessica, i appreciate the reporting. it's an important story. 2020 politics now. senator kamala harris promoting a new plan on criminal justice reform. the decision to put people behind bars raises concerns. her program would end the death

penalty and putting some people in prison. she said this plan uses my experience and unique capability to root out failures within the justice system. harris is hoping to end a summer slump in the polls and in her fundraising. this has been interesting in this race. when you travel, especially younger progressives, they say say, oh, she was a prosecutor, therefore, i'm dubious. >> right, younger progressives, younger african-american voters. on the margins these things start to matter, particularly when it starts to affect people's view of your viability as a candidate. so one of the things i was hearing from her advisers was they just felt like she needed to get her arms around this issue a little bit more. a criminal justice plan was always in the works, but at the same time, she has to do more to explain what her record has been on this. and we saw in an interview that she did with the "new york times," she's starting to explain what the progression of culture has been around this

issue and how she fits in that. that's something i heard repeatedly from advocates that they felt like was a need to do, and i think her aides also felt like they needed to correct the record about some things that they thought were inaccurate being discussed. in the debate when they attacked her, that was a big issue for tulsi gabbard, but tulsi was knocked because some of these critiques were not accurate. >> but she did get a little bit of buzz because of it. here's sbrirt todher interview . it feels awful. i understand it intellectually. emotionally it's hurtful. i know what moet vad r vatd tiv become a prosecutor, and i know what motivated me to do the kind of work we did, and i know that it was groundbreaking work. you had to know, being from the san francisco area, that this would be an area of tough

scrutiny. >> between her and joe biden, he sort of alluded to, you were a prosecutor, i was a criminal defense attorney. you saw that sort of winked at. i think the harris people might worry that becomes more of a theme in this next debate. you notice how she's talking there about the discomfort with her record being scrutinized which is how the biden people have felt about her going after his record. and lastly, sort of heading into this next debate, she seems at a moment the way she was at the first debate, where she was sort of stuck in the second tier, she was struggling with fundraising. she's back in that heading into this debate. she needs something to reenergize her campaign. >> the tulsi gabbard exchange, kamala harris brushed it off. she didn't have a good answer for tulsi gabbard, not even saying, you're misconstruing my record, something like that. so the fact they're working on having a good answer for these attacks that are coming, but

activists i spoke to in california a couple months ago about her said she was a prosecutor, she wasn't a progressive prosecutor. she was the same as everyone else was at that time when it came to prosecuting people and how it was working. >> tough on crime was the movement of the moment. >> tough on crime was the movement of the moment. >> there's a debate thursday night. there are five months until everybody votes, so calm down. let's look at a state of the race nationally over the summer, and you see joe biden is still on top, and she's stayed about the same. nationally, kamala harris, after a good initial entry into the pras. let's look up cbs news p.

it's not where you want to be. all the candidates, if you're trying to shake up the race, if you have bernie, warren and biden, top three, it shakes things up. >> she said this should be a strength of hers in the democratic party, that i was a prosecutor but things are different now. cory booker has a little bit more of a grip on the criminal justice reform agenda because he really worked that in the senate. she needs to do something to shake it up. i do think it's something, if she can survive, it is a good general election position for her to be in. >> that's exactly how her campaign views it. she's making the case that no one can say that i am not for law and order respected, but at the same time, can she get out of the democratic primary? at this stage, i think that's the open question.

you'll also find if this becomes an issue, she's not the only one who has remembered this and i don't think this is over going forward. first up for andrea yang. crowd surfing, that is.

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teach us how to drive like this. mr. president, i've got a few scores to settle. >> president trump firing back in his latest republican challenger in the 2020 white house race. the former governor mark sanford. in a pair of tweets, the president points out the scandal that derailed his former political career and mocked his choice for congress last year. an insult sanders responded to here on cnn. >> often if you end up with three candidates saying there's something wrong with this presidency. what's going on here is not what the republican party that we know and believe in, that's a different conversation. >> the president calls you the three stooges. >> the president is allowed to say whatever he wants. >> he is allowed to say whatever he wants. however, if you look at the data

today, good luck. however, if you go back to our last one-term president, h.w. george bush, he landed a couple blows that we think weakened him for the general election. >> you do have three people, regardless of their qualifications, zeroing in on president trump. i think the difference now, though, is that the party seems willing to sort of change the rules of the nomination contest. you saw south carolina and arizona, nevada, some of these states cancelling any sort of primary contest. that will rob these three of any oxygen for that. >> however, sanford on the appalachian trail, go back to the day he was in the house and his governor in the conservative fiscal wing of the party. he used to veto his own party's budget because he said they spent too much money. can he make the case out there? can he make a case? >> i think he can remind people

about it. it's been pretty egregious what's happened and they have forgotten their hawkishness. it's good to have other voices out there no matter what, but i agree with matt, the way the party is acting, nobody is going to get any traction. >> mick mulvaney used to be one of those as well and he works for the president now. >> one of the things you're hearing from conservatives also, they think mark sanford is a betteral alternate ti al terter walsh. they don't think he's a good messenger for an anti-trump movement, but some think he's better than that alternative. does the 45th president's family have the makings of a political dynasty? somebody thinks so. ess. hey... which is great, ...cool. unless you don't live within 5 minutes of a jimmy john's.

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let's go quickly around the table. other interesting news in politics. a little of a lightning round. abby phillip, i want you to answer this question. republicans see the trump family as a merging dynasty. they say they think the trump family will go on.

>> we should note this is the argument that trump made against hillary clinton that they needed to end the democratic dynasty. the republic an president says house republicans should allow chairs of committees to remain for longer than six years. >> i think he's part of the problem they're leaving. there is a bit of an issue of people not having their seniority on some of these chairs, which was instituted, by the way, in the contract with america, i believe, by newt gingrich. this was to centralize power in the speaker's house. but i think the president saying there, hey, it's not me, but to a loft these people, i think it is him. >> in the "washington post" today, i got this where matt

viser works. it is going to be fascinating thursday night, the first time they will be on stage together. >> the two of them have a long history together, from when warren was a professor at harvard testifying before a committee that joe biden was on and disputing the bankruptcy bill, which is likely to come up this coming week. they had discussions about her potentially being a running mate of his in 2015. they differ thou, though, stylisticalstylistica stylistica stylistically, politically. i think they've been waiting for these two to face off. >> thursday night. trump told donors at a recent private event that he thinks the people will be easy to beat in 2020. a source said, you can't have somebody who loves trump but

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we close today with some happy news. a new addition to the "inside politics" family. meet brooke free mattingly. she's beautiful. she will have to experience what has become a recurring theme in her life, her father pacing before the television during ohio state football games. brooke joins her two brothers, t.j. and carter. look at that. he's going to try to make her a yankees fan. >> another new little buckeye. i can't be more excited. >> we should congratulate chelsea mattingly, the mom here, as well as phil mattingly. if i send her a red sox onesie, do you think that would go anywhere. >> chief diplomatic correspondent jackie could ykucn

the room to help me, abby phillip, carl hulse and john kirby, thank you very much. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, the president under fire for inviting the taliban to camp david on the anniversary week of 9/11, even as he throws out peace negotiations. and aexclusive. why a top u.s. spy was extracted during a highly secret intelligence operation. and bahamians boarded a boat after hurricane dorian that were told to get off because they didn't have the right u.s. documents. they make controversial bookings at a trump party. the president says he doesn't know anything about