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williams begin paying closer those who were heroes, you are of course, in our thoughts on attention with the race and this day and on all of the they're weighing one question above all, what exactly makes september 11th anniversaries to come. the candidate most electable? >> i think that it would be fair thanks very much for watching. to say that biden is my head and war sen my heart, but i also "erin burnett out front" starts right now. have to be fair and say i love joe, but biden would be my pragmatic choice and warren would be a bit of a leap of faith in my heart. out front next, forget the facts. just fix it. cnn learning the president's >> now that is a sentiment we hear from voters all the time, chief of staff ordered the commerce secretary to fix the erin. what exactly are they looking problem after the nation's for in terms of lkt weather officials called out trump's error on hurricane dorian. how is this acceptable? plus, it's the most important electability? all of that debate will be on 2020 face-off thus far, biden stage as warren and biden will beside by side for the first versus warren and new poll numbers show why the stakes time. biden advisers are telling us could not be higher for joe tonight they plan to raise biden, and a major crackdown on questions about some of senator e-cigarette which is have been warren's plans. linked to death across this of course, there are seven other country. let's go "out front." candidates on the stage in good evening. addition to bernie sanders and a i'm erin burnett. lot of high-stakes debating out front tonight, the fix was tomorrow night here in houston. in. a white house official telling >> thank you very much, jeff cnn that acting chief of staff zeleny and out front now, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell mick mulvaney told commerce
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secretary wilbur ross to, quote, supports joe biden and, biden is fix the problem, after the nation's weather officials put out facts which contradicted trump's claim thattal bamma w a r obviously going from a 15-point lead is something that hits you in the gut and you have to in the path of hurricane dorian. figure out what you're going to the problem, quote, and the do about it. they've not been on stage together in a debate. problem is speaking the truth >> right. >> which is why it's nice to have them all on one stage. about the projected path. >> you will see warren and biden he resorted to his rants about together. so going after her plans, right move? >> i think it's a terrible move. hoax and fake. >> did you tell your chief of i think he should be staff to have noaa disavow those concentrating on getting things forecasters who said that straight on, on taking up all of alabama was not in the path of his time and talking himself up. the storm? i think if he goes after >> no. i never did that. elizabeth warren and first of that's a whole hoax by the fake all, people love her plans and that's what they love about her news media when they talk about the hurricane and when they talk and that's why she's rising. second of all, she's not that about florida and they talk about alabama. aggressive. that's just fake news. she hasn't been aggressive at it was right from the beginning, it was a fake story. all on the debate stage and if he goes after her, that opens >> well, the truth here, of the door for her to go after him course s that trump made what which he'd love to do on could have been chalked up as a mistake, a simple mistake ten bankruptcy with credit card companies and banks. days ago. i think it's a terrible idea for the vice president. >> i mean, governor, let's just >> alabama could even be in for
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say in case anyone has forgotten how much warren talks about the at sleeleast some very strong w. plans and how central she is as a candidate and just listen to this just came up, unfortunately. >> it didn't just come up. her for a second. >> i've got a plan for that. that statement was made days >> i've got a plan for that. after alabama was ruled out by i've got a lot of plans. i do plans. noaa as a potential target for >> we have all heard that she dorian. trump not only wouldn't just say does plan, and biden, governor, he made a mistake. has previewed this line of he actively kept tweeting out attack on her plans to us. here he is on cnn last week. inaccurate information and doubling and quadrupling and >> plans are great, but with spaghetti models and the executing on those plans is a big moment, that, holding up a forecast map that had been very different thing. >> so governor, look, so far joe altered with a crude line drawn, the black sharpie. biden has tried to focus on trump and tried to do that as a his black sharpie that made it look like alabama was in front-runner and when the gap is dorian's path and of course, he was ridiculed and somehow his narrowing so quickly is he smart to turn his sights on warren? chief of staff on his own, if >> no, i agree with joan. you believe what trump just said i think it would be a mistake to there, when he said he didn't do anything about this. go after her. so apparently mick mulvaney look, you can disagree with her, and you can point out if there tells secretary ross on his own, is a policy discussion why do ross is the boss of noaa which you think her plans are issues the hurricane forecasts to fix the problem and "the new unworkable, like, for example, york times" reports ross carried on healthcare. elizabeth wants to do away with out this order to fix the problem by threatening to fire anyone who contradicted the private insurance.
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well, 160 million americans who president's inaccurate message. are in private insurance and at least 100 million don't want to the bottom line is trump made a lose their plan and don't want mistake and he wouldn't admit it to be forced into a and he made a bigger lie and government-run plan so he can expected others to lie for him point out that that is not only and caitlyn collins is live the wrong choice, but it's a outside the white house. choice which would make her this was a mistake and it is a electability in the fall very simple mistake that you can move difficult and he has to do it in a continuer in which he says, on and it's become a bigger look, i admire the senator. problem tonight. >> one that they're still she's been a good senator and talking about ten days after the president initially made that she has goals that i agree with statement and let me tell you and we disagree on how to get there are people inside this here and that's why. >> to be specific on that. white house who said they wish >> also -- also democratic the president would move on from the fight and he kept repeating voters have said to me they and falsely claiming that yes, don't want democrats to attack when he made that statement he democrats personally. said alabama was in the path of they want to focus on donald hurricane dorian which is as you trump. so i think there's a big risk if noted the forecasts showed you go out as an aggressor and otherwise. showing that mulvaney was start attacking. involved in this, the >> joan, there will be two president's chief of staff and also involved was a cabinet tiers. you will see warren and biden together for the first time and secretary instructing noaa, this that's a big deal. you will have two tier, right? weather agency to issue a statement to say that the you'll have the top three and president wasn't wrong which noaa did last friday night, a then you'll have the rest. statement that was not signed by his team promising something
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beast and andrew yang's campaign any official of the agency and was backing off those earlier manager said yang will be doing forecasts and what this all something no presidential candidate has ever done before in history. boils to is the president didn't it sounds like it could be a stunt, but how do you break like being rebuked saying they were in the path when they through if you are not in the top three, the warren and weren't and that is where it led to them issuing the statement and the president was irritated sanders and biden -- >> i look at the top tier by seeing the tweet from the national weather service in differently. i would say there are a top six birmingham, alabama, saying that the president was wrong and they said they only issued that and the people above 5% and statement because they had that's pathetic and that adds in received a flood of calls from harris at 8% and buttigieg at residents who were worried that they may be in the path of that six and that is now back at five storm after the president said as much. so what we've seen is this turn into a one-day story into an and beto's climbing a teeny bit. >> not booker, not castro, not 11-day potential lead story if yang and klobuchar. the president continues to talk >> will put yang in a category about it, knowing that he denied by himself. and instructed the chief of he's got the yang gang. staff today to tell the commerce >> a lot of buzz. >> a lot of buzz and he -- let's secretary to get noaa to issue that statement, but we should see what he does. i'm very worried about amy note in this white house, the president doesn't have to issue klobuchar. she's dropped in the last cnn poll. anybody who dropped in that poll and we're talking about people these direct orders and dropping from 2% to 1%. typically aides will do it on so it's bad. their own. i don't know how you continue >> all he has to say is you if -- i don't know how you raise
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money. i don't know how you attract a really should stay at my resort and they do. fix the problem and they do. staff if you're not moving. >> all right. >> patrick healy, former clinton governor, a quick final question to you. does everyone stay in after this white house aide keith boynkin then? they've all made the cut for the and rob asterino. next debate, but if you know you're not going anywhere in terms of getting to the finish line, do you stay in anyway? patrick, this has become lying to cover up a mistake, which -- >> this time everyone will stay in and they'll be joined by tom which turned into a lie over time. >> yeah. steyer who will qualify for the the president was wrong and it next round. >> thank you both very much and seems like enough administration tom steyer will be out in the officials now decided to say, to next few minutes. >> president trump is about to target a new and dangerous fix this and we'll put out false information basically through epidemic. >> people are dieing wiying wit weather forecasters and these were people who were in charge of the united states government and we're looking at it very that are, you know, that the closely. >> they have a plan. >> he's spent millions of his population is supposed to have campaign to tom steyer. what does he say to the critics faith in, that they're dealing who have said that he bought his in facts and in accurate weather forecasting who were being pressured from as high as the way into the debate stage? white house chief of staff to out front. urke) seen it. covered it. at farmers insurance, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
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not part of this story. for nfl redzone. click, call, or visit a store today to learn more. >> they do it because he thinks they want him to, but they do. you know this. they do. >> that's their judgment. why do they do this? >> they should not have made the judgment call. >> oh, come on, rob. you know the reason they did it is because they have the impression that trump wants this. everyone in the white house is afraid to tell the emperor that he has no clothes. trump is walking around thinking that his s-h-i-t doesn't stink and unfortunately, it does and we have too many sycophants that won't tell him the truth. >> this is significant, patrick, just in. the big united states supreme court win for the border on a sime you will. let me just be clear on what tonight, the white house happened here. the supreme court is allowing trump to go ahead to write, moving to ban all flavored e-cigarettes. the move comes amid a rising basically, block asylum for number of illnesses and now central american migrants while these cases go through the court deaths related to vaping. and it's not a permanent ruling, the hhs warning there is a surge in children getting their hands but it is a ruling. on these products. they can't block it as lower they're especially drawn to the courts tried to do. fruit and mint flavors.
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the secretary of the hhs alex that, patrick, comes as they sazar says an entire generation wind in that special election of children is at risk to becoming addicted. last night in north carolina out front, dr. sanjay gupta and with trump's backing, it was the former fda commissioner dr. close, much closer than it david kessler. should have been, but it was a win. these are two big wins for the sanjay, you know, i guess here's where i start. president tonight. >> yeah. what exactly is the trump there's no question. the north carolina window was administration going to do and can they do it by edict? interesting because it showed a >> it sounds like they can. the way that this typically works is before you sell a real divide between democrats product like that you've got to get a pre-market approval. and republicans with president trump having a very hard time, you have to basically say here's the republicans still having a what we're trying to do and get very hard time in cities and in approval to actually market it and sell it this way. suburbs with those moderate, the fda has been kicking the can suburban voters who reluctantly. down the road on this issue for some time saying we'll get to it. we'll get to it in 2020 was the latest that we heard and they're erin, a lot of those voters have basically saying, no, we're going to enforce this and it not liked the president's policies on immigration and they sounds like if someone applies have not liked the photos of for approval for these children in cages at the border. flavorings, they're not going to get it. so in effect, that would be the family separation policy. clearing the flavoring. they've not liked these. >> so dr. kessler, to some it while the president and the administration and a lot of seemed so obvious and it's a their allies do see these things huge problem and everyone at as wins, like a supreme court this point knows about it,
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right? they see it and i don't know, at ruling is a win. least for me everyone knows you >> that's interesting. >> the tenor and the sense of don't make fruit-flavored, you how these policies affect real know, e-cigarettes unless you're trying to market to young people people still very much bothers and to kids. people including in key suburbs yet heck did this take so long? >> it's a very good question. in arizona, you know, in florida, in states that these products have been illegal president trump very much wants to win in 2020. >> rob, is that a double-edged since 2016 and it's taken, in sword then that they can go ahead with -- you know, a ruling essence, a crisis. like this does put more pictures 450 illnesses and six deaths and like that back in circulation? >> no. a generation of young people who it's upholding the law and local judges and district court have become addicted. judges, but on the north i think the administration was carolina win was a very big win, and here's why. >> okay. trying to recognize that for >> you know, the democrats -- he some smokers, there may be value was up by 17 points and he had three years to campaign. in these products, but what he raised a ton of money and the happened was we saw that the so-called dark money that democrats hate. they had 12 million of it and industry just couldn't be outspent two to one and what was interesting and i talked to the trusted. they marketed to children. these products aren't safe and people in the campaign today for bishop. they move 19 points in three the fda and the administration weeks, totally outspent, but in essence is chasing the horse they also had democrats vote for
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after it's out of the barn. them who were uneasy with the pelosi agenda and that was a big factor and once the president >> and some would trust the tobacco companies. got involved because they it seems like an oxymoron, and i weren't really putting the know it's a skeptical way, but president in his space. >> they weren't confident. look, they sell what they sell >> the flip side is that this is and they make money how they a -- this was a republican make money and the cdc reporting gerrymandered district and the 450 suspected cases and we're just barely in. republicans have never had any i mean, how bad could this get? trouble winning, and he was >> well, you know, i think it's behind it, this is one that the really interesting. the doctor brings up this point that this could potentially democrats -- and that may be dan create a new generation of bishop's problem -- smokers and that was even before >> keith, let me the final word we started talking about the on the supreme court ruling. deaths, right? >> right. now you have the situation where is this something that energizes people are vaping something. democrats and maybe some of we don't actually know what it is that's causing these those suburban swing voters or illnesses or these deaths and it could be in a particular not? obviously, we don't know how ingredient in the flavorings or long, but this will be a stay it could be something else allowing trump to block these entirely and we don't know the answer to that. >> it's not even the nicotine? asylums until this goes to the courts. >> no. >> yeah. >> we know what that does. the potential is that something like this could continue to keep that issue in the public's mind we're talking about all other and particularly with democrats kinds of carcinogens. and progressives. i don't know if it energizes >> if the goal is to say we have to stop these deaths, it's a
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democrats anymore because it pretty much already energized little bit of a blind shot right now because you'd have to say, and they're already upset about the kids in cages and the look, if we don't know what's causing these deaths should we separation policy and the reverse of dhaka aaca and they just stop this altogether and if you vaporize something, a pro-immigration. synthetic and you inhale it into i don't know much more that what your lungs and it congeal again else could possibly happen to make democrats more energized at causing this huge inflammatory this point? >> i guess that's the question. reaction possibly leading to death, how do you stop that? thank you very much. speak of those democrats joe is vaping itself the problem? biden has a plan, the i'm not saying it is, but that's front-runner planning to take going to be the question. warren at her heart. is this flavoring ban going to really address the problem that >> i've got a plan for that. they're trying to address? >> right. dr. kessler, to be clear, i've got a pllot of plans. they're not banning the tobacco-flavored one, and i >> he doesn't like those plans. plus the administration taking suppose they're not doing that action against a habit that has because they're not banning cigarettes themselves. and you know, i guess that would hooked millions of children. why did something so obvious to be inconsistent even though everyone take so long? obviously we know cigarettes and a cnn exclusive tonight, we'll take you inside a camp kill people, as well. i want to get to the heart of where isis, wives widows are now one thing, dr. kessler. grooming a new generation of fighters. you wrote an op ed recently [happy birthday music] saying e-cigarettes would provide a less risky option for some people. do you think that that is still possible? i presume you are talking about
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heavy smokers that are trying to dial back the nicotine consumption? >> there may be, and i underline maybe the reason to make -- to have these products available for people who smoke. the evidence is not there, but that doesn't mean you market these products widely. i think this is a beginning of a reset, but i think where this is headed is these products are not safe as they're currently marketed. maybe we have to consider these products as a prescription drug or some kind of restricted access. so that those who smoke could have access if the evidence supports that, but again, these products are illegal. they shouldn't be on the market. the companies have to show they're safe and the administration has to do its job. >> all right. well, you know. it does amaze me that you've got
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people running these companies and you have this, people running them and they know they're giving this to kids and they know it's bad and they did it anyway. >> it's a playbook that we've seen before as you pointed out. this was what big tobacco did. big tobacco is involved with the vaping industry. people may not realize that, but it's part and parcel the same thing. >> thank you both, very much. >> next, he spent millions of his own money to make i to the debate stage. so how much is tom steyer willing to spend? he's out front. it's a ticking time bomb and cnn will take you inside a refugee camp where isis brutal ideology ♪ at this hour is spreading. i apply topical pain relievers first. ♪ don't get mad, salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors put those years to work with e*trade. for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. (paul) wireless network claims america's most reliable network. hisamitsu. the nation's largest and most reliable network. when i needed to create a better visitor experience. the best network is even better? best, fastest, best. enough. improve our workflow. sprint's doing things differently. attract new customers.
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>> tonight, the biggest showdown so far, the fight for 2020, joe biden verses elizabeth warren. the democratic front-runners face to face for the first time in the debate stage tomorrow night, this as the new cnn poll tonight shows biden's lead over warren, should rinking dramatically. they're now six point apart. that was 15 points just one month ago, okay? that's dramatic and so we are learning new details about biden's plan of attack to change that narrative. according to one adviser he's going straight for warren and her plans. jeff zeleny is out front. in the human brain, billions of nefor people with parkinson's, >> reporter: joe biden is some neurons change their tune, nothing, if not resilient. tonight, a new cnn poll shows causing uncontrollable tremors. biden leading the field at 24%. now, abbott technology can target those exact neurons. with elizabeth warren and bernie sanders locked in a tight race for second. restoring control and harmony, biden's advantage comes from his once thought to belost forever. the most personal technology
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strength among plaqblack voters is technology with the power to change your life. group he leads by 42%. warren and biden will beside by side for the first time. warren's candidacy is rising. her signature plans facing a new test. >> well, i think that we start with a plan and then we get out there and fight for it. new tonight. to me, that's what being ten democratic candidates for president is all about. 2020, getting ready to take the >> above all, biden is still stage in houston, but there is one more that has made the cut for the next debate and that is banking on his electability tom steyer and he is out front with me tonight. good to talk to you, as always, argument. >> everyone underestimated him tom. you have ten of your rivals on the last time about president stage tomorrow night. trump. the place he's most comfortable they have been slugging it out at these debates since june, is in the gutter arguing. >> a new washington post/abc right? in june they have july, they news poll shows biden is leading have this one. okay. you weren't there. trump by 15 points while sanders does this give you an advantage has a nine-point edge and warren or disadvantage when you're up holds a seven-point advantage in a hypothetical match with the there? >> well, erin, i think that the president. biden's staying power stands as point of everybody running to a warning sign to his democratic get the democratic nomination is rivals who have done their own the same. do you have a message that campaigns little good in their resonates with democratic
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attempts to dislodge him as voters? is it a different message? is it true and are you a front-runner. >> do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in believable messenger? so i think any time you get the chance to make that presentation it's good and that's what i've been doing for weeks is trying to get out directly to the american people and talking to them. >> okay. so you've been doing that by being on the trail. you've also been doing that via social media which is a place that you've been incredibly strong. since the start of 2019 according to numbers we got today the estimate is you spent $6.5 million for ads on facebook and google which is more than any other democrat running. does this prove, tom, that any of the criticism you face from your rivals who say you're buying your way on to the debate stage by buying these ads. does it prove that any of that is fair or not? >> erin, honestly, i think that the truth is if your message resonates then people will respond to it. if you don't have anything to say it doesn't matter where you go or how hard you try. what i've seen is that when i get a chance to get in front of
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people and get my message out, i've only been out for eight weeks and some people have been out for eight months. >> yeah. fair. >> when i get a chance to get in front of the american people and explain to them that we have a broken government, that corporations have bought it and that we need to take back the government and make it of, by and for the people and restore the democracy and i've been doing that as an outsider for 20 years, people will respond. >> let's take new hampshire where the estimate again for this that came out today was $124,000 spent there in the state on online facebook ads by you, nearly double elizabeth warren. okay. you're the top democratic spender there. so the big picture question here is, tom, you come to this with the ability to be an outsider in part because of your own financial fortune. how much of your own money are you willing to spend on this race? have you even in your head put a number around it? >> you know, honestly, erin, i've been running grassroots campaigns for ten years in the
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united states against corporations and winning, and i know that when you go into a campaign things happen that you never expect. so no, that's not how i think about it and the question is this, do you have something important to say? if i didn't believe with all my heart that i have something critical to say, that i have a different vision for america than everybody else running and that i'm a different person with a different background, an outsider and not from the beltway, i wouldn't run. i'm doing this because i think there's something really important that needs to be said and i believe i have the history of creating grassroots organizations that enable broad democracy and that's what i think in 2020. i don't know if you saw it today because i know you've been buzzy, but president trump's administration says they'll ban e-cigarettes, but only the
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flavored ones which as i said it's absurd it has taken this long by -- by many across the country who have failed the country on this, but tobacco-flavored cigarettes would still be allowed. would you ban all of them or would you allow tobacco-flavored cigarettes? e-cigarettes, i'm sorry. >> i don't know if you know this, erin, but in 2016 in california along with my partners in the labor movement we took on the tobacco companies and we specifically added a $2 a pack tax to every carton, to every pack and gave the money to medical. the health system -- >> and that's for straight cigarettes. >> and we included e-cigarettes and the reason we included them was because when people said to us, no, those are smoking cessation devices, i said if they're smoking cessation devices why did they flavor them with bubble gum and put them in the kids section. i think what people have been trying to do and what tobacco companies have been doing with
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these flavored e-cigarettes is to try to hook young people intentionally with the flavors they like in the part of this store where they shop and i think that's wrong so i think that should be stopped. >> all right. thank you very much, tom steyer. i appreciate your time. >> next, a cnn exclusive. we'll take you inside a sprawling camp being called an academy for the next generation of isis fighters. on a much lighter note, jeanne moos on two candidate getting quite a surprise on their way to the make or break debate. ♪ the amount of student loan debt i have i'm embarrassed to even say i felt like i was going to spend my whole adult life paying this off thanks to sofi, i can see the light at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪
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tonight, the nation pausing to mark the 18th anniversary of the september 11th attacks. you see there live the pictures of the tribute in light that show where those twin towers once stood. this as isis is regaining strength in a forgotten syrian refugee camp, a new wave of young fighters being groomed by their mothers. arwa damon has a rare look inside the camp. >> it's called alhol, a camp
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that sprung from nowhere now the size of a small town. the wind and sand but it's the anger, the seething hostility that strikes you. to step into this camp is to witness a strange mutation of the caliphate kept alive by the widows and wives of isis. a spirit of vengeance seeps into the next generation. hatred and enmity is magnified by the wretched conditions. >> you think it's a camp, but it's a prison. >> it's a place in limbo like no other refugee camp on earth shunned by the kurdish forces say this place is a ticking time bomb, an isis academy where its brutal ideology is incubated. they don't have the resources to
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keep control. many of the women here don't know where their husbands and teenage sons are. they tell us quite openly they're teaching their children to hate the infidels, who imprisoned and killed their fathers and brothers. the camp's population swelled while isis was making its last stand. many of the new arrivals have direct ties to isis. they were organized and quickly established their version of the moral police, terrorizing those who refused to wear the full veil. beneath the black uniformity, some women want nothing more than to leave. i don't care if it's the kurds or even the americans who control my town, this woman pleads. but there is no reintegration program. this is an open-air prison. >> what do you want? >> i want to go home.
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are you scared from us? >> should i be? >> i'm just asking. a lot of people, that's why they're talking in our countries to take us back. >> if they gave you an option, let's say, of creating another caliphate for you -- >> no. >> no? >> no. >> you're done? >> a lot of women, they think the same. >> reporter: but few countries are repatriating their nationals. the living conditions are horrendous. it's filthy. there's little access to medical care. clean water is scarce. food is rationed. a chat group has turned this place into a cause for isis, referring to it as the al hol death camp, alleging atrocities. there's a lot of propaganda here, a lot of promoting of the isis ideology. but then they're also using this platform to send messages. it's where they posted this
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video, the isis flag being raised inside the camp. that happened here in a part of the camp for syrians. it's a reaction to the psychological pressure on us, one woman says. they should know that more can be done than the raising of a flag. and more has been done. foreign women here are no longer allowed to leave their annex and go to the market after two incidents when kurdish guards were stabbed. the more radicalized women threaten and terrorize those less devoted to isis. one woman says her tent was burnt down. another, that she's so afraid of being stabbed, she barely sleeps at night. outside the camp, we get access to a prison, a surreal scene. former isis fighters painting and crafting papier-mache models. this man says isis held his family hostage to coerce him to
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join. isis gave me the bombs, he tells us, and then showed me on whatsapp how to plant them. he's serving 20 years, the maximum sentence. in the crowded cells, some men say they never others accept their fate. the kurds are doing their best to separate the true believers from the rest. in this rehabilitation center, there are scores of teenage boys. this 15-year-old was an isis fighter. his first mission, to plant explosives at a u.s. base. he describes how they were given the bombs, weapons, and suicide vests. we covered everything with the women's black nicap, he says, so
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the jets in the sky would not target us. the operation failed, and he ended up in prison. but even there, isis ruled, he says. but at the rehab center, things are different. i've left isis behind, he tells us. it was a mistake. i learned from it. but the center barely reaches a fraction of the children indoctrinated. there just aren't enough resources. if the situation stays like this and nations don't help, isis will come back, an administrator here tells us. we hear about it, the sleeper cells, they take advantage of the children, trying to recruit them. and the children are so vulnerable. they know nothing but conflict, destruction, and grief. some have no parents like this little boy. >> he's just visiting his friends here. his tent is somewhere else, and he says that his mom was killed. his dad has been detained, and it's just him and his siblings,
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the oldest of which is 16. >> reporter: children pay the price for the sins of their parents but in turn are preyed upon. there's only so much kurdish officials can do to contain the situation, and there is a shocking lack of international involvement here. the place is forgotten. the legacy of yesterday's war. and that makes it uniquely dangerous because if allowed to fester, the sprawling camp contains the seeds of the next war and isis' revenge generation. arwa damon, cnn, syria. >> phenomenal report. and on a much lighter note, jeanne is next. [happy birthday music]
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two 2020 candidates not only sharing the stage, sharing a flight. here's jeanne. >> reporter: this may be the plane every democratic presidential candidate dreams of flying on, but for the moment, they're flying mostly commercial. and guess who's in the next row? pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar found themselves a row apart on a united flight headed for houston, scene of thursday's debate. at least they didn't behave like this commander in chief. >> get off my plane. >> reporter: klobuchar and buttigieg were all smiles, very funny at united tweeted
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buttigieg. and the debate begins. good sitting behind you, tweeted klobuchar. at least one passenger couldn't resist selfies with both candidates. note the seating pattern. democratic candidates sitting over the left wing. same goes for bernie sanders and elizabeth warren when a journalist spotted them back in june and imagined bernie wondering, is she going to kick my chair? special prosecutor robert mueller once shared a departure date with don junior, and the week after cruz beat beto o'rourke, the two shook hands and posed with passengers at an airport gate. forget snakes on a plane. >> i've had it with these [ bleep ] snakes on this [ bleep ] plane. >> reporter: these days, the planes are calling with candidates. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks for joining us. anderson starts now.
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good evening. we have breaking news to report tonight. president trump and other add minute strigs officials are discussing the possibility of picking an administration official who is close, very close to the president, to fill the position of national security adviser. this just one day after the president unceremoniously fired his third national security adviser, john bolton, by tweet after disagreements arose and then were aired in the media about a proposed meeting with the taliban at camp david ahead of today's 9/11 memorial events. i want to go now to cnn's national security reporter kylie at wood. what are you learning? this is a fascinating development. >> reporter: it is because it comes just the day after john bolton was ousted as national security adviser.
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