defense secretary donald rumsfeld. at shanksville, vice-president pence honored those who died on flight 93. you know they fought back against the hijackers and protected our nation's capital. in new york when the attacks first happened, flights 11 and 175 slammed into the world trade center, bells were rung at the footprints of the twin towers. loved ones read a solemn roll call of the dead. 9/11, 18 years later, we remember. the news continues when we go to chris for cuomo primetime. chris? >> always a tough day and it should always be that way. anderson, thank you very much. i am chris cuomo. welcome to primetime. we have break being news tonight. our asylum laws were just changed by the supreme court and it could keep a lot of people from ever having a chance to come to america. we're going to get reaction from a key u.s. senator tonight on the next step for this country in that case, and on his role in the potential gun deal. we also have brand-new

numbers to show you on the eve of the next big debate. someone's closing in on joe biden, and that someone is gearing up to take him on directly for the very first time tomorrow. and, of course, as anderson was telling you and you should need no reminder, it is 9/11 and i want us to recall what was supposed to be learned and what i fear has been forgotten. as ever, i am so sorry for those who are pained by this day. we must always remember. let's get after it. so the supreme court is now allowing this administration to shut the door to many central americans seeking asylum while the legal fight over that case continues. the case is styled or named "barr versus east bay sanctuary covenant" and you can look it up. but it is really trump versus

them. the new rule would prohibit migrants who have resided in or traveled through third countries, those people now cannot seek asylum in the u.s. if they declined to request protection at the first opportunity. in other words, they have to ask and be denied asylum in places like guatemala or mexico first. now, i know senator richard blumenthal is among those not happy with this decision. let's bring in the judiciary committee member about this and his big role in a potential gun deal. senator, thank you for joining especially on this day. >> thank you, chris. >> what is your case against this case? as we both know and you know this very well as an established prosecutor, but for the public, you are supposed to seek asylum in the first available forum. >> the rule that the administration is trying to implement is, in fact, you have to seek asylum in the country that you travel through -- >> yes. >> -- before seeking asylum

here. think for a moment what that would have meant during world war ii. my dad came to this country in 1935 seeking to escape persecution in germany. he would have been required first to seek asylum in those european countries that he traveled through, as would have been many other asylum seekers and refugees. he was 17 years old. he spoke no english. he had not much more than the shirt on his back. this country gave him a chance to succeed. the people covered by this rule barred from seeking asylum here are similarly seeking to escape persecution, violence, condoned by the governments in their countries. drug traffic and threats, and this kind of rule contravenes the spirit, if not the letter of this law and the intent of congress in passing it. >> well, let me hold on the spirit for one moment. i want to address that. and i accept your premise and i surrender the point on what it would have meant for people like

your father to have to travel to other european countries. but it's why that would have been an undue burden on him. it would be because those countries would have been similar threats to him because of their vulnerability at that time. can you make the same constructive argument here? do you believe that mexico is such a dangerous place that people in central america that are contiguous to it next to it shouldn't have asylum there? >> mexico already is a dangerous place for asylum seekers. >> g 2 countr20 country. >> as the president lined out, the gang war lords, the geographic distance make it dangerous. it would be more so if mexico had to deal with every one of the asylum seekers coming or seeking to come to this country so -- >> we have heard reports, just

to bootstrap your point, from cdc, people have been waiting have been getting more and more dangerous and that those people -- there has been a predation on the people who are waiting to get into this country. things are getting worse because of volume. >> that is exactly right, chris. as the volume increases and mexico loses control potentially of its own asylum process, and parts of the country right now are essentially lawless, those asylum seekers become more and more at the mercy of the human traffickers and drug cartels that would seek to exploit them for money and for other serious criminal victimizations. >> so the appeal is going to be on that basis, having read some of the other pleadings, that these countries are similarly situated and there is no safe forum until these people seeking asylum come to the u.s. i really do believe, though, the ultimate remedy should be legislative. of course, that depends on the ability of you guys to make a deal.

now, segue on that point. you're supposedly working with senator lindsey graham to get something done on guns. the house passed a couple more bills, a red flag variety and another background variety. do you really believe that you can work with senator graham and get something done with this president? >> i absolutely believe that lindsey graham of south carolina, the chairman of the judiciary committee, is a serious and diligent partner. after months of negotiation and crafting and drafting a bill, we are on the verge of introducing a measure that preserves due process, but takes guns away from people who are dangerous to themselves or others. and i'm very proud to be from connecticut, the first state to adopt such a statute. an emergency risk protection order statute that enables a police officer or other law enforcement official to go to court, take a gun away from someone who is about to commit suicide or kill a spouse or intimate partner as well as

commit a mass shooting like parkland, where, as lindsey graham said, all but took out an ad in the newspaper. and i believe that due process is preserved by the subsequent hearing. we have carefully crafted this law to provide grants and incentives so that more than just the 18 states that have them now will follow connecticut's lead. and i think the white house, and specifically the president would be denying an overwhelming seismic political -- 90% of the american people favor this kind of law. >> no question. but senator mcconnell won't move on it unless the president says he will. the president has been sheepish about this. he's vacillated on it. does lindsey graham, who let's be honest, has been unapologetic in terms of fixing himself to this president and what the president wants. does he believe this president will come on board? >> lindsey graham is a pretty good advocate. he's an experienced trial lawyer as i am. he knows how to make the case. and i think what is as important as lindsey graham's advocacy is

the overwhelming numbers of american people, almost 90% that support emergency risk protection, and they work, they save lives, as do universal background checks. our goal is to do both -- i mean speaking for myself, together because both keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. >> does lindsey graham want background checks? >> i'm not going to speak for lindsey graham. >> i will. no. >> well, i think there is a really seismic political dynamic -- a political movement that's been generated by groups like every town for gun safety, moms demand action, students demand action, brady, giffords, and many other groups across the country that i think has gotten the attention of the white house as well as my colleagues in the senate. but it will be the president who has to lead or get out of the way. >> no question about it. you know he's not going to get out of the way because it's got to be about him on some level. but, you know, you talk about

this is an unusual situation because you have a consensus in the country that isn't being echoed by its representatives in terms of action. now, one last question for you, senator, because there is another issue like that, but the reverse is true. there is this big impeachment vote tomorrow to give the house more tools to go forward with what seems like an impeachment inquiry. they playing with the language, they're playing with the objective. you do not have a national consensus on people wanting impeachment. what do you think of that vote tomorrow? >> the house should move forward with its investigation. call it an impeachment inquiry. call it a investigation, oversight. what's important is that the american people see and hear what the president has done in violating the law. and it's not only what mueller found in his investigation. it's also his defiance of the constitution, as i have shown in the lawsuit that we've brought based on the emoluments clause because he's taken foreign

payments and benefits without concept of congress. there is a pattern of law breaking. the house has to vindicate it. i hope it will. just on the issue of bipartisan ship, part of my hope for this gun legislation is the fact that we did achieve a bipartisan compromise on immigration reform. just a few years ago, lindsey graham and i and others helped to lead in an overwhelmingly passed measure that reformed a broken immigration system. you're absolutely right, we need legislation and it's time for us in the senate to come together and end the epidemic of gun violence just as we must end the epidemic of vaping. >> look, on a day like this, i'm not going to be the enemy of optimism. maybe there is a carry through. if they want to protect kids from something that could be a danger like e-cigarettes, maybe they'll see the same rationale dealing with guns. senator, thank you very much for fighting these fights. they matter, to your constituents and the country. be well. >> thank you. >> all right.

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so we are on the eve of the third debate between the democratic presidential candidates, but it will be the first big showdown. you've got joe biden at 24%, senator elizabeth warren gaining steam, 18%, virtually tied with senator bernie sanders, 17%. now, where are they getting support from? what does it mean going into tomorrow night, especially with biden and warren on the same stage? our wizard of odds, harry hanson

has the answers. what do you see? >> it takes two to tango, my dere friend. this is the trend line. i think this is rather important because there is a noticeable trend for one of these candidates and that is the senator from the great state of massachusetts, elizabeth warren. back in may she was only at 7% in our poll. then she jumped to 15, she was around there. then 18%. that is the large of the amount of support she has had in any poll we conducted since late last year. >> bernie sanders said she's taking my ideas. she's riding the female momentum wave. people didn't know who she was. that's why she's built up to the same place i am, that's why we're equal. >> i would say elizabeth warren is rising -- which is more important to democratic primary voters, strong chance of beating trump or strong position on issues? beating donald trump is the number one issue right now. they desperately want to beat him. we broke down the poll this way. if you take a look, if you prefer a candidate who can beat donald trump, if that's more

important to you, take a look at the movement we've had over the last month and august, we've seen biden fallen. he's only getting 26% among is that group versus 35% in august. warren has jumped from 125% in august to 21% now. she seems is convincing more voters she can in fact beat the president of the united states. that is a large reason why she's moving up versus sanders falling backwards on that. >> give me more, given the context of how big tomorrow is. >> i think this here is to me rather important. and this is the whole question for me is whether or not elizabeth warren can break out from her base of support among white democratic voters because right now she is leading among whites. she's at 23%, biden is 21%. take a look at hispanics and african americans. elizabeth warren is in fourth place among african americans, tied with 10%. >> why? >> among black democrats third. white democrats tend to be more liberal which is where her base s. they tend to be educated.

that's where her base is. it's more than that. african-american democrats specifically who we keep honing in on, they love joe biden because they're more moderate, but also because of his connection with barack obama. elizabeth warren right now is simply put not connecting with that. >> what do you think -- here's the final question. when you have to balance this potential reality with what you put weight on, which is can i beat trump, how big a deal is it for them to see warren and biden on the same stage? >> this is huge f. s. if she can convince them she can beat donald trump and joe biden can't, that's the ball game. that's her path to victory, biden's path to victory as well. >> sha loan, brother. >> shalom. >> the president is taking on the growing vaping crisis in america. that is good. here's an interesting question. if the policy for intervening at this point is it seems like it's

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so the trump administration is now moving to ban flavored e-cigarettes. why? concern for children. >> they're coming home and they're saying, mom, i want to vape. and the parents don't know too much about it. and nobody knows too much about it. but they do know it's causing a lot of problems. and we're going to have to do something about it. the people are dying with vaping. >> now, we can expect legal pushback from the companies. we've been through this before. but here is the debatable question for us tonight. the premise for action. you heard this president, people are dying. at least six people have died from lung illnesses linked to vaping, hundreds more are sick. but if the president is so concerned about something that's potentially lethal to kids and

that seems like it's a danger, why doesn't that rationale apply to gun violence? that's the start of tonight's great debate. we have anna casperian and steve cortez. good to. you both. anna first. if you agree with that premise that it should apply to gun violence, why? >> well, i think that it makes sense to legalize and regulate things, so i am not against getting rid of or banning all guns, but it makes sense to regulate, have common sense regulation for guns. the same goes for substances. banning substances has not worked out so well for americans or american history. we have imprisoned so many nonviolent drug offenders in our so-called drug war, and at the same time after we've wasted so much in government resources in doing so, we created a black market. and so people are going to turn to an unregulated black market where these drugs and in this case the e-cigarettes, are much

more dangerous -- >> isn't the same thing with guns? that if you were to start really restricting access, you'd create a secondary market where certainly the bad guys would go? >> well, the whole point is to pass common sense regulation. robust gun control regulations that, let's say, for instance, you have background checks without the loopholes, the gun show loophole, the loophole that gives the fbi a maximum of three days to conduct a background check. there is a loophole when it comes to private sellers. again, the point is common sense regulation. banning things does create a black market. and in this case, the fact that trump is so quick to go toward banning something -- which, by the way, six people have died. all have been adults and they purchased the products on the street, which means we need better regulation. but banning it isn't going to solve the problem. >> so let's just stick with the through thread here, steve. obviously part of the momentum here is people are concerned.

people are concerned. >> true. >> the president is picking up on that. he's got a great gut for sentimentality. why doesn't he follow it through if you have 90% of persons who say all sales should be checked when it comes to weapons? >> right. >> and who say we need red flag laws. if you have a reasonable -- you have to have due process. if you know someone needs to have weapons removed, why not follow through and pass those as well? >> right. it does as long as there is due process. but here's the problem i think with trying to draw the parallel here, chris, between vaping and guns. i'm no constitutional law scholar. >> true. >> when i read the rights, i don't find vapin sacred first amendment, the right to bear arms. we're talking about a constitutional right versus a cigarette basically. >> it is not an absolute -- it's not an absolute --

>> we do have constitutional rights -- >> no right is absolute. >> but for some reason we keep forgetting the second part of that constitutional protection, which means we need -- you need gun control, well regulated militia. i don't think the situation we have in place right now is a well-regulated militia. there needs to be -- every single constitutional right has its limitations, and in this case for some reason, while we have even limitations on the first amendment, we have a party in this country, the republican party who refuses to acknowledge that there are meant to be limitation in the second amendment, well-regulated militia. let's repeat again, well regulated militia. >> if you're going to keep repeating that you have to know what it means. >> i do know what it means. >> i don't think you do. a well regulated militia meant at that time of the writing of the constitution, it was any male who was healthy was considered a member of the militia. so every citizen is part of the militia body definition. >> i understand that.

i'm talking about the well regulated part, well regulated. >> i'm a militia man in that regard. >> i'm not questioning the militia part of it. i am talking about the regulation part of the constitution that for some reason everyone seems to forget. >> hold on. that's my second point that i'm going to get to. no, we're not forgetting about that. for example, machine guns have been ill legal in this country for 100 years. of course, no right is absolute. we know that and we know, for instance, that you can surrender your rights. for example, the right to vote if you're a felon. the case of guns if you're a felon, the right to own fire arms. if you had domestic crime even if it's not a felony, you lose your right to arms. a perfect example, i'm fine with talking about and so is the president, expanded background checks -- >> wait a second, steve. don't speak for the president. where do you get the idea that he's okay with expanded background checks? he's run away from it several times. >> no, with exploring it. he said -- >> what does that mean, exploring? >> discussions are ongoing. we need to do it in such a way

where it does not infringe on the constitutional rights. again, we're not talking about vaping here. >> we already have -- i don't know if you're a gun owner, but let me tell you how the process works. when you go in there, they run a background check if you buy it at a gun store. why wouldn't you apply that same thing to commercial transactions? >> it's only private transactions that are not subject to the nics laws. and, listen, i think it would make sense -- >> that's not true. when you go to go shows, it doesn't count. you don't -- >> if a dealer is at a gun show -- >> there are a lot of people who aren't dealers there and they can sell guns. >> i said private sales, that is correct about private sales. hold on, let's talk about the efficacy for a moment. in the recent hossier isk shootings, particularly the ones we had a few weeks ago, that awful week in el paso ask dayton, both of those criminals passed back ground checks. i'm not saying we don't have background checks. i think we should have them. the idea it's a panacea or silver bullet -- >> hold on, steve. hold on, anna.

one simple point. >> yes. >> what happened in odessa when the guy got dinged on the background check was he exercised the loophole and he bought it privately. and that's why we're saying all commercial transactions should be checked. and then he wouldn't have slipped through. >> right. >> steve, the logic there is incontrovert i believe. >> and i think we're going to end up there. i think the president has said he is open to t. >> not if they keep having conversations with him. trump says he is for common sense gun legislation, he says this after every mass shooting. all that happens afterwards is wayne lapierre will pull him aside, have a conversation and remind him of the $30 million the nra spent on getting him elected and trump immediately changes course. i mean, the nra twitter account brags about it. they had a pinned tweet from wayne lapierre talking about their conversation. look, trump is easily corrupt

abili able. he might have the right instinction after a shooting, but money talks. that's why we don't get -- >> anna casperian says it's not going to happen. what do you say, steve? do you think the red flag law, universal background checks will pass? >> red flag law is a whole different can of worms and that worries me greatly. i fear that we're talking about local governments having far too much power to take away constitutional rieg constitutional rights from individuals. that's a different conversation. expanded background checks, i believe it is going to happen. i caution people i don't believe that is going to solve the core problem of mass shootings because all of these mass shooters have gotten their guns either legally because they could pass background checks or they chose to get them illegally by stealing guns, for example, the sandy hook. >> true, there is no silver bullet. we had a shooting that could have been changed if all background checks are available. that's all i'm saying. it's a good start.

anna casperian, steve cortez, good to have you on the show. welcome back. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the president spent part of this 9/11 doing the absolute right thing. he was conveying empathy and remembering what needs to be remembered on this day. then he started doing other things. trashing poles, trashing his latest top aide to exit this white house, john bolton. we are now learning that he could make a very unconventional pick to fill his role. we have reaction from a national security big wig in congress. what are his concerns on 9/11, what does he see as the course forward. next. tell him we're flexible. don't worry. my dutch is ok. just ok? (in dutch) tell him we need this merger. (in dutch) it's happening..! just ok is not ok. especially when it comes to your network. at&t is america's best wireless network

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9/11 plus 18 years, and we're learning tonight that this president may ask his secretary of state to pull double duty as the next national security advisor. congressman mike rogers is republican from alabama. congressman, it's good to have you on primetime, especially today. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you for taking the invitation. i hope we do it even more often. now, one of the reasons that you have these different positions around a president is because you want checks and balances. you want people around him with different influences. does that reality give you any concerns about having someone fill two slots, even someone who i'm sure you hold in high esteem

like the secretary of state? >> yeah, i served with mike pompeo before he left to go to work with the administration. he's an incredible intellect and a great fella. but the president needs to have the kind of team he wants. it's not unprecedented for the kissinger model to be used where both secretary of state and the national security advisor are one person. i think the president is going to make a decision about whether or not that's going to f his style. i don't think he's made that decision yet.erns, given that t your universe of thought about how safe are we, what should the policies be. here we are on 9/11. we have an incomplete team. we've been through three already. this will be the fourth. given it's pompeo, any concerns about that? >> no, i think the president has great instincts about what works for him, whether or not the work load can be managed by one person. this is a new story that's been sish circulating. i haven't heard the president say he wants to do this. i'm not sure mike pompeo would be comfortable with that if it

was suggested. >> how do you feel about the state of our national security? >> i feel good. i feel proud that we made some great strides to -- particularly when it comes to our homeland to keep us safe and secure. we've got great intelligence apparatus now to protect from events like what we suffered 18 years ago. we've done a great job of training our and equipping our first responders. it's been demonstrated repeatedly. we've got, though, a very dangerous world out there. not just domestically, but internationally. we have more threats than we had 18 years ago, so that's pretty sobering. >> certainly there is a danger without. more and more we've been hearing about the danger within. do you share concerns about the rise of extremist right wing violence in this country? >> i sure do. we had a hearing yesterday in the homeland security committee talking about that very fact that while we have to keep our eye on these foreign threats, the growing threat here at home is disturbing and it's giving

rise to our paying a lot more attention to it. online radicalization and rogue whip sites have energized an element of people that can cause us great problems if we don't find a way to deal with it. >> why now? >> it's just because it's growing. it has a lot to do with the internet and social media and these websites that are starting to use recruitment techniques that foreign terrorists used to use internationally. now these people are using it to radicalize here in the country. we had a report in may they currently have over 1,000 cases open of people on our soil that are terrorists, domestic terrorists that may be radicalized by foreign terrorist organizations or from right wing or left wing groups here in the country. but this is a growing trend. i think it has more to do with the way information is communicated than anything else.

>> i don't understand the partisan apportionment on this. for us hate is hate, right? i'm sure you and i agree on that. but there seems to be a partisan instinct of saying if we're going to talk about nazis or right wing extremists, you have to talk about the people in antifa also. not only did statistics support that, but the killing is clearly coming from one aspect of this. why make it partisan? these people aren't -- you don't own the right wing extremists in the republican party and antifa in the democratic party. why not focus on it than playing politics with the president? >> yesterday in our hearing, we had a great panel of tremendous experts, and they didn't paint that picture. they painted it as one, we have to look at the complete spectrum. you're exactly right. the largest percentage of the terrorism has come from right wing groups. but they made the point we have to keep our eye on the full spectrum because the others are getting more aggressive, too. that was the only point it was made. it wasn't a partisan point.

i was tickled by the fact because i've been on this committee since it was established -- in fact, when it was still a select committee. and we generally aren't very partisan. and yesterday's hearing, there was no partisanship. >> great. >> we took this with a very sober approach. and at the end of the hearing, both the chairman and i made the comment that this is one of the best hearings we ever had because we took it as americans, we were looking at this problem as americans. there was not a scintilla of partisanship in this hearing. >> that is a gift on 9/11. >> it is rare. >> hopefully an indication of a way forward. i'm okay with you having partisan fights as long as it winds up with common ground to do something for the rest of us. legality me do my part. congressman mike rogers, you are always welcome on this show to talk about policy and what matters, even if there's a disagreement on the questions there will be decency that motivates them all. i promise you that. >> thank you. >> be well, congressman. >> thank you. >> so, just how far would you go? this is a good turn. you're going to like this. you want to take the perfect picture. you want it to pop on instagram.

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all right, now here is one of these situations where i feel we have to say, seriously? some people think they're daring, but they're being just plain dumb. the internet is embroiled in this heated debate over this photo. do you see it? a young woman being held over the edge of a cliff in the peruvian andes. the caption reads, in part, there is a difference between risking your life and taking a risk and having one. now, couldn't you make that point without hanging off a g.d. cliff? it's not the first time the couple has come under fire for risking their lives just for effect. in april they posted themselves this picture in bali.

take a look at this. we have it? i mean, are you kidding me? can you zoom in on that a little bit just for those of us who aren't eagles? there we go. i mean, i hope he's got a good grip. d. lemon -- >> yes. >> what's your take on this? >> what you want to know? >> what's your take on this? >> okay, here's my take. are they crazy? they are a beautiful couple and there is so much hate on social media that i don't want to hate this couple. i think they're a beautiful couple. it's part of their brand. would i do it? hail to the no. >> so you're saying that you are immune to the draw of doing the sensational to get attention on instagram? >> absolutely. >> you wouldn't do it? >> i don't care that much. i think the people -- that's a picture -- would i hang over a mountain and let someone -- no. i wouldn't even stand on the edge of that mountain. >> nothing close? it's not in you? >> not even in me was i don't have that much to prove. that is nothing. that's me just jumping off the

side of a boat. >> that is inherently dangerous. [ laughter ] >> no, it's not. >> look at that. look at all that moving up and down as you're going down. just the momentum of the belly alone increased the g-force. >> oh, this is pay back for last night. that's me -- >> i mean, that's crazy. >> with my family. my family came to town and my friend offered us to go -- >> i don't see any family. i didn't see any family. i didn't see -- go back to it again. the guy is up there was so scared. you scared off half their bathing suits. [ laughter ] >> see my nieces back there? you can look at that -- >> i hear cries of help. what else do we have from d. lemon's instagram that shows he will do anything for a laugh? what else do we have? watch this. watch this. [ laughter ] >> ladies and gentlemen, america's news anchor. >> you know that pool. that's my backyard. >> the pool is not the problem. it's the fool, not the pool. [ laughter ]

>> are you comparing that to hanging off a side of a mountain? >> oh, yeah, it's all relative. those people are like these young hard bodies. we're talking about me and you. this is as dangerous as we get. [ laughter ] >> i'm going to get you. i'm going to get you, sucka. >> don't major me hke me hop af. i'm saying as your friend you need to keep it in check. it's not worth it, d. lemon, it's not worth it. >> don't you think that's different than hanging off the side of a mountain? >> it's all relative. squeezing yourself in the tiny little swimming trunks you had on, fitting that extra pair of s socks in there, too? [ laughter ] >> you're getting me back for last night. >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> that you ate steroids for "lurch." >> wlunch. >> what does chris cuomo eat? does he eat raw meat? i said besides steroids.

and i looked to the camera and said, i'm joking chris. well, neighbor i'm not. but that was it. he said you guys must be friends in order for you to says that. >> all right. >> i'm going to start busting out your instagram. >> listen, i don't do dangerous things. >> >> listen, i don't do dangerous things. >> really? >> not for attention. i just do them because i'm dumb. >> like when you're holding up your picture of the fish you took with your shirt off, and you're like, look at the picture of the fish. you can't even see the fish. all you can see is your bicep. >> that's you. >> that's you. >> that's on you. there's a fish in the picture. i have to go now. i'll do what you do best. >> mark sanford is going to be on, the president's primary challenger. oh, stop it. don't be a hater. >> mark sanford up at the top of the show on d. lemon. we'll be with him in just one second. now, as we go to break, change of tone. it is good to smile. i love d. lemon, he makes my life better, especially on a heavy day. but i want us to look back at what we're remembering today, okay? and what never forget was supposed to mean and what it means all too often. stay with me for this, next.

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never forget. that's what we say about 9/11, right? certainly easy to say but tough to do. first, may i say how sorry i remain for the loss that far too many suffered on that day. i know it never goes away. i know this day can bring the blessing of an occasion to remember loved ones and often a haunting reminder of life-changing tragedy. and most of the time both come at once. i was there. this dust or ash or amalgam was given to me by a friend who saw me there. some of it was on me, on all of us for days. the stories of heroism and loss and pain and confusion shaped me and so many personally and professionally. seeing the emptying of optimism on the faces of those ready to

help when no injured came. the cold reality that so many were gone. the little hospital that did see hundreds in the first wave and rose to the challenge. amazing, the little hospital that could, nyu downtown. the days of searching and hoping and praying. the surrender to the reality that there was no miraculous discovery to be made, that so many being looked for were not in a hospital somewhere but exactly where you would never want anyone to be. what we all saw and heard and smelled as those buildings fell and that cloud, that dense, all-consuming cloud that seemed to contain every physical and emotional piece of contents, covered everything, and then fell at our feet and on our faces. the quiet, the cries, none of it will be forgotten. i would be engaged 11 days

after 9/11, convinced that life was far too fleeting to wait. it was the best move of my life, and it came from a place of seeing such abject pain. it was made in a haze of uncertainty that would be clarified time and again with the addition of each of our kids and the blessings of my life. a marriage and a family that bore testament for me to the possibility of better, that the fate had not surrendered outcomes of the only the darkest kind. we would get better, and there was better that came quickly to counter the worst. there was unfathomable amounts of positive response. the tremendous admiration for the many who gave their lives that day in saving whom they could, recovering those they couldn't. 2,977 gone, but remembered by family and in the commitment of those who went to fight for the rest of us to make sure this would never happen the same way again. there's never been, in my lifetime, a bigger demonstration of the best and worst mankind

has to offer. 9/11, never forget. no one can who was there, and yet it has proven to be much easier to say than to act on, hasn't it? look at the immorality and inequity and disgusting politics at play with the victims compensation fund. these men and women who spend so many billions in washington on things they can't even recall felt it right to shortchange those who served the rest of us on our darkest day. the heroes we lionize, that we trotted out everywhere for months and years, every big shot wanted a picture with a first responder. and then our leaders became the picture of betrayal. thankfully public shaming, some political will got the money to the victims of that day and the aftermath just to pay for treatments that forestalled the diseases that are killing them

to this day and for years to come. never forget. 18 years on i would shift that motto to a positive opposite. always remember. the fragility of life, the need to stay connected to what happens here to anyone because there but for the grace, it could be you. and especially these days, we need always remember that the differences plaguing us now are meaningless relatively. we know real threats, and they should not come from our politics. tearing at our fabric is anathema to the momentous mending we went through after 9/11. it is a poison to what saved us in the days and weeks after. we came together. we were all in it together, and that was made so painfully obvious. always remember that. we have seen the worst, and we should always remember that the responsibility of living is to

appreciate and make the most of what we have been gifted here in this country together. the freedom, the accommodations that some hate elsewhere, we must always embrace. with so many so determined to take us down, we must always remember our preservation as a nation depends on us protecting one another. 9/11, never forget. always remember. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> well said. well put. i flew today, and i thought about it as i was getting on that plane this morning. it was just an ordinary day for me, right? i had to fly and come here and do -- or how many people on that day thought it was just an ordinary day. they were getting on an airplane, or they left their loved ones and then all of a sudden that happened. so it made me think about it much, you know, harder because i was actually flying into new york. and i just thought about it -- every year of course you do, but it just -- i just tried to put