the bahamas. here's the reality. we don't know way too much about the situation. especially the missing. the dead. the level of destruction and loss. you will see when we take you to the ground it's a function of two things, the scale of the loss, and the inadequacy of the ability and the resources to respond. now we hear dorian-battered islands could be hit by another tropical system soon. we'll show you the current path and expectation. we also have the president's top immigration official here, ken cuccinelli. we're going to ask him why the administration's making it so hard for bahamians to seek refuge here. now more so than before the storm. why? and two titans doing remarkable work to help hurricane victims join us. chef jose andres is literally feeding the bahamas and nba all-star carmelo anthony is here with an important reminder. don't forget puerto rico. what do you say? let's get after it.

now, this is the interesting part about the missing situation. the number is down from, like, 2,500 to now 1,300 listed as missing, about 2 weeks after the most powerful storm in bahamas history. but we know that that number is soft because they haven't even been able to search all these places. and they know that for sure, there are thousands, many thousands, living with nothing and many need to get out of there, at least for a while. however, one escape hatch from the catastrophe seems to be closing. cbp here in the u.s. says those trying to enter the u.s. are being reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and we are told about 3,9 h evacuees have been processed through florida. but then the president made this unproven claim that smacked of bad hombres, drug dealers in the bahamas trying to get in, now

access has been including some very bad people and some very bad gang members and some very, very bad drug dealers. so, we are going to be very, very strong on that. >> let's bring in ken cuccinelli. ken, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, chris. >> now, as you know, i got good sources at cbp. i got good sources at dhs. nobody can put meat on the bones of that allegation. they pushed back on me and said we didn't close the door, we're going to let people in, we're figuring it out, don't say that it's over, but nobody could back up the president's claim he just made about what this risky population is. and the only one we know of being denied was not a group of drug dealers, they were mostly people with their kids trying to

get in. >> yeah, i don't have anything to add to the subject. obviously, we always want to be vetting people, no matter what that the circumstances. president's describing people who aren't from the bahamas comicome ing through the bahamas which is something we are on watch for and have added vetting resources over the years, particularly during the trump administration, there's been a major priority for him -- >> what is the proof of what he alleged -- >> we continue to do that. >> -- and changed the policy, ken. >> i don't have any other information on that. >> you must. you're in a position of authority now. got to do one or two things, go the to say, here's the point -- >> what other answers mustvy? >> you got to do one of two things, ken, either have to say the president meant this, here's the basis or i don't know why he said that, it is not something that i can prove. >> yeah, i just told you that as acting director of uscis, i don't have any additional information on that.

i think that answers the question, and i never -- >> no, it doesn't. can crow cyukoou confirm what h? it's not about why he said it. >> i don't have information on it, so, no, i cannot confirm it. >> where did he get it from that there are drug dealers trying to get in? >> we're vetting all these folks. >> have you vetted a single case of drug dealers trying to sneak in? you're in charge of it. >> can't speak -- i can tell you we vet all of the folks -- >> have you caught a single drug dealer trying to come in ? >> we do this on short notice, it makes to lot more difficult -- >> have you caught a single drug dealer -- yes, you do, i heard the number is zero from five different sources. >> that's great, you didn't tell me you were going to ask that question before i got on here. i'm sitting here with no notes. >> you didn't think i was going to ask you about your job of screening people that come in the country? >> chris, do you think i screen all 9 million visas we handle every year? >> if you have proof the

president is right, you'd be giving it to me right now, ken. if you have proof he was right, you would have offered it up off the top of the show. >> chris, maybe instead of sandbagging me, you should try to give a little heads-up on what you'd like it have a constructive conversation on. i have frequently had constructive conversations with you. >> ken, ken -- >> here we are talki ining aboue bahamas, you want to ask me about something, about one quote from the president. >> yeah, i do, ken, come on, brother, don't paint me like that. you know i'm not a sandbagger. there's nothing sneaky about me. i'm painfully obvious. you know the president said this today. you know it's indefensible. i don't understand why you -- >> i don't change my day -- and i don't change my day based on every quote that other people hear from the president. i do not follow around everything the president says all day. i don't even follow his tweets all day. >> good for you. >> chris -- >> it will keep you sane. >> i do my job all day. >> it affects your policy and i'm wondering -- >> saner. >> -- why won't you give the bahamas tps, temporary

protective status? republicans and democrats have done it for situations just like this. >> yes. we used to do that when the courts obeyed the law written in the statute that congress passed that says they wouldn't review when we close those. so when the executive branch tried to end some previous tpss, some of them now, chris, over 20 years old, 20 years old, the oldest one is for a hurricane, if i remember correctly, in 1998. and because the courts are breaking the law by not obeying what congress wrote, they've essentially taken that tool away from us, but we are using other forms of humanitarian relief, in your intro you mentioned case-by-case consideration by customs and border protection. what that refers to is humanitarian parole which can be utilized in situations like this, in fact, that is what cbp is frequently using in this situation. we've also brought medical cases to this country. there's an awful lot of humanitarian relief going on --

>> people are being turned back, being told they have to have document. >> -- in bahamas and here. >> they're being told now they need documentation that is more fulsome than what they needed even before the storm, if anything, you think there'd be leniency after a storm like this. why would you make it harder to get it? >> yeah, no, we don't make it harder. we use the same standards and when cbp processes people at a point of entry, they do need proof of identity. they need to know who -- >> sure. >> -- people are. >> they're asking for more than that. they're asking for proof of landownership. bills. a visa. who's going to organize that stuff when your house was just destroyed? >> yeah, what they might ask for, chris, is proof of address, not landownership, except insofar as it helps to prove identity. identity is the key. >> proof of income -- >> vetting people -- >> property ownership. i'm just letting you know, even though this is your area of expertise. proof of ownership.

proof of income. utility bills. my house was just blown up. how am i going to get these kinds of paperwork? you supposed to make it easier right now and vet them, that's what tps is about. >> no, tps is temporary protected status for people who are already here. doesn't have to do with people coming in. that's the humanitarian parole that i mentioned that cbp is, in fact, using. let's keep in mind that most of the bahamas is still in perfectly good shape. the two big northern islands were the ones that got hammered here, and so we're also working with the bahamian government about taking care of folks in the home islands where they l e live. >> i've heard good reports about the coast guard response, the coast guard i've heard about and other ancillary organizations are helping. >> they've been rock stars. >> it seems like the president has extended his bad hombres, menace, mentality, to the

bahamas and changed the course of cbp, dhs, they were open to getting people in, it slowed down and the requirements are up. >> chris, i think you misunderstand that. i course has not changed. the number you cited, the most updated number, the 3,900 folks from the bahamas here, that is almost a thousand more than, say, 36 hours ago. so this process is continuing. there are -- there are requirements. vetting requirements. but bahamians are still coming into this country appropriately vetted and legally, but they're still coming in. that has not stopped, which you said earlier. that's just not accurate, chris. >> well, people were -- >> it has not stopped. >> people were kicked off a boat. they were told that they didn't need a visa to get in. they just needed proof of identification and their criminal record. they had that with them. and then cbp said that was not enough. then mark morgan was asked at cbp and he said, listen, we're going to relax the standards and situations like this. that's not unusual. republicans and democrats have done it. then after the president said

what he said, dhs put out a different statement saying, no, no, no, you need visas, you need to have more specific documentation and that's where we got this checklist from, so something changed. let me ask you about something else that changed while i yhave you. the scloasylum ruling from the supreme court, people following at home, you know it, you're a very skilled lawyer. basically says the government has the right to put into play its new asylum policy about the rules of asylum which essentially says you can't forum shop, you have to go to the first place you can to seek protection. que you can't forum shop and come to the united states unless you're denied access somewhere else. you can do that while the case is being appealed. what i don't understand is what we heard in the dissent of that case, where is the safe place for these people to go when they're fleeing from central america between there and here? >> well, every -- first of all, people are coming from all over the world through mexico and through the -- through central

america. and that -- it has become sort of an avenue of access, the southern border. we're catching people crossing illegally from countries all over the world. the greatest numbers, as you note, chris, are from straight south of us, mexico is still very -- number one on the list. >> well, central america, as a group, is bigger now. central america as a grouping is bigger now. the triangle countries. where are they supposed to go? >> if you combine them all, they've gotten much bigger. >> right. i guess mexico -- >> one o the countries they pass through first. >> mexico. >> one of the countries they pass through first. let's keep in mind -- if you're in guatemala, mexico is the only country you pass through. it's different for honduras and el salvador and points farther south. look, chris, when we see the credible fear numbers, credible fear interviews where we have very little pushback, very

little negative screening, 80% coming through, yet, 10 p%, 12% 15% of those folks ultimately qualify, the 70% or 80 people of people in between those two, 60% to 70% of people in between those two are clogging a pipeline that keeps legitimate asylum seekers from being able to get through our humanitarian offerings. >> why don't we expand -- >> we are 330,000 cases -- we're adding -- this calendar year, chris, since i've started the leadership at uscis, we will add 50% more asylum officers this year. we are growing that capacity, but where we have a true backlog that is very large, 335,000 cases, is in the asylum space. and a lot of it is grown out of this crisis at the southern border where we have a lot of people claiming asylum who have no persecution, no threats. there are only a limited number of governments in the western hemisphere any longer that pose

these kinds of threats, and, yet, many people realize that what they could do, hopefully they can't any longer, was swamp our southern border. so so many of them got released in the interior -- >> right. >> and many of those don't show up when they have court dates because their goal was just to get caught and released. >> why is the best way to do it, to stop the u.s. policy of if you get here, we'll vet your claim. you know, mexico, you know about the reports that are coming out of tijuana and other places as people start filling them up, as they wait for entry into the u.s., the crime is on the way up, the violence is on the way up. that is a dangerous place and it's getting more dangerous for people. why take a risk? when we could just expand capacity? why take a risk with these people getting hurt or sending people back -- >> chris -- >> for who are legitimate asylum seekers? >> we'd love to expand capacity. you touch on a really important point. congress refuses to do that. all they do is complain about the crowding.

they can fix it. and they've done it. we know they can do it because in early june, you'll remember that supplemental appropriation -- >> sure -- >> -- that got passed by congress to help children -- >> yep. >> which we had been -- the administration had been begging them for months -- >> the administration -- the policy of harshness on kids because it worked, i had that memo. it was before your time, but they were plenty happy to be using that method. >> yeah, nobody wants children in inappropriate facilities. the border patrol facilities were made for single adult males primarily to be repatriated quickly back to mexico. when we got enough money from congress in one month, chris, in one month, and i know you've been to the border and studied this, in one month, we got those kids into child-appropriate facilities. we got all of the overcrowding related to children down, gone, and kids were out of border patrol facilities in under three days -- >> the money matters -- >> -- regularly and timely took

the experts' advice. >> i got you. listen -- >> that's the answer with respect to the other -- >> i'm with you. i'm saying you don't have to change the rules if you can expand capacity. i know the money matters. i'm not questioning the motivations of the men and women who do the job on the border. i've seen is firsthand. there are bad apples in every bunch. those are good men and women doing their job. ken, i hope you know, sa sandbagging ain't me. i'm asking you about what's obvious, as always, you're always welcome. >> chris, i love answering your questions. you know that. i thereknow i have the debate. if i have better specifics coming in, i'll prepare, i do my homework. >> listen, you're a smart guy. i respect you. you find out whatever you want, you make the case, your invitation is welcome to come back. >> good to be with you, chris. >> listen, we don't need animosity. i don't sandbag anybody ever. i'm painfully obvious. the president said it, the policy seemed to change so i

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>> reporter: still stunned at their own survival, the aftermath has been crippling. nearly one in five bahamians are now homeless, more than 2,100 in shelters and at least hundreds more taken in by family, friends, even strangers. the price tag already at a staggering $8 billion and counting. while the winds have calmed, the sense of urgency hasn't. the need to feed, shelter, and clothe, so many for mosnths, maybe years, with trying to cope with finding and identifying the hundreds still missing and many who survived are struggling with traumatic experiences. during the storm, thousands scrambled from room to room, house to house, buildings crumbling or flooding around them with alarming speed. >> the same boat here was just as high as the roof. it started to come onto the roof with me. as i was holding on for their life. >> reporter: hurricane dorian was stronger than

>> there's obvious lay lot of debris that's going to be an issue and a danger, not to mention groundwater contamination and this storm, new approaching storm isn't going to help. the other urgent issue, chris, what do you do when you're here in nassau? that's starting to wear on people who survive one of the strongest storms on earth already. >> paula, i want to give you thanks. your reporting on the ground about what people are encountering when they're trying to leave, what documents they're being asked to have, what they're being told they need. it's more stringent than it was even before the storm. i was using that reporting basis as part of the argumentation against the administration official we had on. so, thank you, for giving us the word from the ground. so we can test power appropriately. good luck to you and the team down there. okay?

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all right. so for those who are still trying to make do in the bahamas or looking to return to some of the hardest-hit areas there, there's another threat. your house may be gone. there's no infrastructure. but those pools of water, the sun sewage, debris, decay, can lead to disease. some lack access to toilets, clean water, medical care. some hospitals and clinics lack personnel. they lack personnel and needed supplies. let's bring in dr. dwayne sands, the health minister of the bahamas. thank you, doctor, for joining us. >> good evening. it's a pleasure to be with you. >> thank god i find you well on this phone call and i know a lot of people in your care are not

similarly situated. people often neglect the aftereffects of waterborn diseases and problems with sanitation. what are you finding? >> well, flankthankfully, we we somewhat proactive in recognizing this was going be a challenge. and so we have literally september out a small army of public health officials. some from the bahamas. but many from the panamerican health organization. so they have descended into the bahamas and in particular into abaco, grand bahama and also new providence, nassau, to deal aggressively with the challenges of waterborne, foodborne diseases and the infectious challenges that typically arise in the second phase after a storm. >> so how do you -- >> i believe -- >> go ahead, doctor, please.

>> we have now set up outposts in virtually every settlement in abaco and all of the inhabitable sell settlements in grand bahama. in terms of acute care and primary care facilities, for the most part, they are now up and running. >> well, that's good news. how do you deal with these high numbers of, at least temporarily homeless? i mean, there's about 70,000 homes have been taken out. based on what they know from the obvious areas. not so much a reckoning of the outer settlements yet and have a certain percentage that have nowhere to be at all. how do accommodate now, what do you need? >> so your numbers, we have 70,000, give o take, in both abaco and grand bahama. in terms of the number of homes lost, it's still a very large number. that said, what we have done for those home's that are habitable, people have remained in them, but a number of people have

evacuated. some 8,000 persons have been evacuated from both sides. then many people are in shelters. we have set up public health and primary care facilities outside every shelter, and we have recognized that many people simply don't have the ability to get to health care and so we've had to take health care to them. >> right. the biggest concern, doctor, now, is going to be how many people were lost. the number of missing has come down. that's good. but the idea of there only being 50 lost, i mean, i hope that that's the number. i hope not one more is added, but the unknown is frightening here. what is your biggest concern? >> i -- i don't believe that any of us truly believe that the number will settle out at 50. when we see that we still have 2,500 or so missing persons, clearly, the difference between 50 and 2,500, that number's

going to climb somewhere significantly. in the meantime, we continue to care for those people that have been seriously traumatized, who've lost loved ones, who are anxious, wondering every day if they will ever see their mother, their father, their children, and this is a particularly difficult thing for people who have lost their homes, their possessions, and to make matters worse, possibly somebody near and dear to them. >> that is obviously irreplaceable. that's why we were just testing america's government, the administration, here in terms of giving tps, temporary protected status, to bahamians, what the rules are, whether they're being relaxed, made more strict, in light of what the president said. we know the need is great. we know everybody has to pitch in and we know that's not going to end any time soon. dr. duane sapdnds, when you hav

information to get out, specific needs you need addressed by the large community off your shores, please know you have a friend in us here. >> thank you so much. i must say that there have been many international partners who have gone above and beyond, but if i would be so bold as to single out any individual ally or partner, the united states has been amazing. >> good. that is good to hear. and hopefully it's more to come. minister, be well. >> thank you, good night. >> all right. one of the people who's certainly a hero on the ground in these situations is legendary chef jose andres. he's been on the ground fighting for bahamians since dorian came roaring in. do you remember this video of him? he is the real deal. what is he seeing? what is the need? next with the great chef. n! i'm craving something we're missing. the ceramides in cerave. they help restore my natural barrier, so i can lock in moisture. we've got to have each other's backs... cerave.

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the u.s. government is ramping up its aid to the bahamas. you just heard the minister of help saying the help from the united states has been very, very good. $4 million announced today. that brings total u.s. assistance to more than $10 milli million. others like chef jose andres are taking a personal approach. he does what he does best. he fills stomachs. he has close to 10,000 meals a day going. so far, his world food kitchen

has delivered over 150,000 fresh meals across 3 islands, new providence, abaco, and grand bahama. the chef joins us with an update from the ground. great to see you, my friend, as always. i seem to find you in the hardest-hitten places even more than i'm there these days. what is it like for you on the ground for you and your team? >> well, every day is a new day. i think that today we see finally we have a great rhythm. today, like yesterday, we deliver 30,000 meals, 20,000 in grand bahama. the rest between here and providence and abaco. so, you know the situation, i would say at least it's under control but there are so many things that have to happen still today and going forward. >> how much fear is there about the unknown? how many of the missing aren't

missing, they're gone, and how long it will take and if people are trapped and now the united states may be changing the rules for people to come here while things get better. what's the anxiety on the ground about all that? >> well, we still have many rescue teams, many from the states, i know there's one from fairfax, virginia. another one from washington state that still they are doing a lot of search. search for those 2,500 unaccounted people. let's hope that the number doesn't increase much more and that hopefully those 2,500 just happens that they are people that they are in shelters or they are in the homes of family members. but i want to tell you one thing because this is very important to understand. we're talking about 20,000 people in abaco. around 70,000 people in bahama.

we're talking that almost 20% of the population of an entire country has been hit by this hurricane. many have lost their homes. family members. this is unbelievable. imagine that in the united states, 20% of our population will lose their homes and they will show up one morning without water, without lelectricity, without cell signal. wow, this is total chaos. with that, they want to say, this country, small country in size but very big country in heart, actually has done a fairly good job in handling this situation. so i want the world to know that, yes, sometimes in these situations you'll begin hearing criticisms. i think that if anything, the prime minister and entire bahamian government supported by the international organizations, they've done a fairly good job.

>> what do -- that's good to know. and what do you think people should do who want to help? >> listen, as, for example, we keep doing food. we're helping the government making sure that that's not a problem. other people, usaid show up, united nations, also trying to help with water, house support in some parts. we've been taking a different initiative. now you're at home and you're watching, what can you do? listen, sometimes we want to start sending things and we send so many things that sometimes this creates a bigger problem than the solution. we need to make sure that if anything, even if you give a dollar, a dollar helps. many organizations you can go to their webpage of the bahamian government and see how you can be supportive. this is a great way to support in a passive way. you are planning your vacation, you know where you should be coming? you should be coming to bahamas.

there's plenty of islands. this is the big one, providence. it's perfect. many other little islands are ready to welcome you. you want to help the country, you want to help the people, show up as a tourist and this is an amazing way to be helping this country move forward into the reconstruction. >> that's a great idea. chef, when you come back, assuming you're not consumed by the rest of the storm season, we'll pick a weekend, my family, your family, we'll go away. it's on me. we'll go to the bahamas. all right? stay safe. and stay well. >> thank you. >> take care. all right. i'm going to come back to the bahamas in catastrophe we can't forget. things aren't back to anywhere near normal. nba all-star carmelo anthony is here to talk about why he had to help find more ways to help rebuild puerto rico and why it's so special for him, next. so i use my freedom unlimited card. even when i'm spending, i'm earning 1.5% cash back on everything i buy. earning on my favorite soup...

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and rightly so. don't forget puerto rico. they're still dealing with the destruction and heartache caused by hurricane maria. we brought in carmelo anthony. you know him. the nba all-star. he's using his foundation to bring basketball courts to the people, also education, meals and much more because he's seen the need expand. we spoke to him in a candid interview about his connection to the island. carmelo anthony, thank you so much for taking the opportunity. >> thanks for having me. >> respect you as an athlete. respect you even more as someone who's a citizen trying to give back. tell people about your connection to puerto rico. >> oh, i'm half puerto rican. my dad is -- was puerto rico and i just felt my connection probably three years, two years into my nba career. i started going back to the island, getting back in tune with my roots and my family and

started my foundation down there, the carmelo anthony foundation. we started doing a weekend every now and then that would include golf, just a really, lreally god weekend. then we started donating basketball courts. >> what do you think the courts mean to the communities? >> it's a connection. i think sports brings a lot of different things, a lot of diplom different people together. when i did it, i didn't know what to expect.wanted to go bac that particular neighborhood. being one of the roughest islands to give back. years now, i have people to this day come back to me and say thank you. >> you do at least a court every year. you've been seeing that grow. then maria happens. >> yes. >> and you decide you have to get more involved. why and what? >> we sent planes down there. unicef, feed the children. bearable courts. hygiene kits.

hi my team was on the ground, in the trenches doing the -- after the hurricane and post-hurricane. we just wanted to give back. like, i just felt like something my heart, my soul, that i had to do something. >> it was a weird situation because people were talking about puerto rico like it was a different country. >> yeah. i mean -- >> an island. >> we didn't even feel a part of it, right, just to see the images that was going on from afar, the way that the island was being disrespected, the way that puerto ricans was being disrespected, i think it was just something for me as an individual, i felt like i had to do something during that time but also it brought me closer o to, you know, my puerto rican roots. >> what do you want people to know about how great the need still is there? >> we need everything. right? we all know the financial crisis down there, the economy, we know that -- we know the hurricane put us back years and years and years. we also see what's going on from, you know, a government standpoint and politics and things like that. so we're just in a very, very tough situation right now and a

tough moment and a tough environment, but as all puerto rican s ricans, we come together, stay strong, we keep our head up. >> look, with rossello, the governor who was down there -- >> absolutely. >> the people went out in the streets, demanded he leave. >> yeah. >> because he felt they didn't represent the standard of what they wanted firm. >> absolutely. >> you're not seeing that in the continental united states. >> no. >> what did that speak to for you? >> how strong we are, right, as people, as a unit, as an island, as puerto ricans. a certain pride that we had. and just seeing those images of the people in the streets, right, what they stand for, i have family, like, my sister was down there, like, leading the protests, like, it was -- it was tough, man, but it was also great to see, you know, the island coming together like that. >> so, you have two different big influences of your life where the people there are all about the passion of the place. you got puerto rico and you got baltimore. >> yeah. >> of course, the president's involved in both of these

situations. he's involved in everything these days. but what he said about puerto rico, you saw how they took it. what he said about baltimore, tell people about what it's like to be from baltimore and to hear your place call -- you can see rats running all over everybody. >> yeah. >> to call it that that's all it is. what does that mean? >> i see that. right? i saw that. i grew up in that. right? it's something that we're trying to fix, right? we want a better baltimore. right? so for somebody of that stature to call a place like baltimore that has so much heart and soul and culture and creativity, just call it rat infested, like, that right there was just -- that was a stab in our heart. and baltimore's a place that's ready to explode. right? we saw what happened with the freddie gray, you know, tragedy. now we see in baltimore bubbling again and at the end of the day, we don't want that to happen, but like you said, you look at what's happening in puerto rico, everybod everybody's coming together. baltimore is a place where you keep pushing us, keep pushing

us, people are going to come together and hopefully it's for the right reason but just don't know what's going to happen. >> you're not an easily intimidated person. >> no. >> but you got to pick your spots. . you can put your money where your mouth is all day long. you do that brilliantly. did it in baltimore, did it early, did it in puerto rico. you see things around you, people in positions of leadership. you don't need them. you don't like what they're saying or don't like how it's going. how do you figure out here's what i'm going to speak about? i'm going to say something about this or i'm not going to get into it because i got to worry about my brand, got worry about me being a ballplayer first. how do you figure out what to say when you don't mike what power is doing? >> i just think i'm past -- i want to protect myself and protect my brand, i think i'm past i can't say this because of my brand. i have to talk about what i feel, what's near and dear to me. my connectivity to my people which is baltimore. which is puerto rico. which is, you know, new york. >> people say, shut up and

dribble, as we heard said about lebron james. >> that just makes us -- that makes us come together and that makes us want to say something even more. right? because we have a voice. we have a major, major voice in a lot of different genres that's out there, a lot of different topics. so i'm going to continue using my voice. i don't think anybody is going to stop me from doing that. i want to use my voice and steer things into the right direction. not just to use my voice just because i have one. >> i remember harry belafonte said to me once, before they see what's in my pocket, they always see what's on my kskin. >> 1,000%. >> that's who i am in this country. >> 1,000%. >>vy i have to deal with that. what i see is what you're doing. forget about the court. i don't need to talk about it. what you're doing for people who need help -- >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> makes you an all-star no matter how you think of it. >> i appreciate it. >> all right. that's just some of what's happening with americans helping americans through one disaster. now we need to help our maybers in the bahamas. that's obvious. i'm going to show you who's

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you know it can't just be about the problem in the bahamas. we have to promote solutions. that's where jake wood comes in. he leads team rubicon. a wonderful non-profit made up of vaeeterans. they've been on the ground in the disaster zone for weeks. they do this all over the world. they're the first wave, medical, working to stop disease, clean debris. infrastructure for communications. chains chainsaws. roofs. the list goes on. you want to help, team rubicon. chef andres raising money for team rubicon and can help him with money. it's one of the 20 charities working on dorian that you can find on the cnn impact your world page. how do you get there?

cnn.com/impact. okay? thank you for being part of this solution. all right. let's turn now to breaking debate news. the top ten 2020 democrats have been mixing it up in texas. and this has been an interesting night. joe biden had to come to play. did he come as jolting joe or sleepy joe? what about elizabeth warren? she's been on the rise. did she raise her game? let's face it. a lot of candidates on that stage are fighting to survive. they say lelectability is key. what does that mean tonight? anyone proving they have what it takes to take on this president toe to toe? let's bring in our primetime primary team to assess what's going on so far. the one and only david gregory. we got sabrina sadiki and alaina plot. everybody's been watching except when you're sitting here,