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i didn't look it up. don't hold your breath for any more self-deprecation. as for the loathsome lightbulbs, who knows what the president might do. executive orders, national emergencies. he has never shied away from flipping the switch or throwing shade on the ridiculist. >> halley's comet every 75, 76 years. i will text you about the rest. have a beautiful weekend. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." we have breaking news right now. the house intel chair has just issued a subpoena and he is also making a very serious accusation against the acting director of national intelligence. this is big and it's happening right now. also, why all this confusion about what's happening with the investigation of this president in congress? impeachment or not? does it matter or not? we have the one person who would know. to boy, did we get lucky on a
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friday the 13th. the house judiciary chair jerry nadler here. what's going on with the doj's latest suit and what we heard from congressman schiff. we also have the gop pac leader behind that shocking new ad that was shown with democratic congressman alexandria ocasio-cortez's face on fire. the ad was made to get attention. it ran during the debate and it worked. let's see if it's the kind of attention that parties should want. and the head of the american vaping association says he is ready to prove vaping saves lives. i would say he better be ready to take on the president. but on this friday the 13th, a spooky shift by this president on this topic. so it is time to test. what do you say? let's get after it. this is just coming in to cnn from the head of the house intel committee. that is congressman adam schiff
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of california. he issued a subpoena to the president's acting director of national intelligence. here is the accusation. joseph mcguire is the acting. he says, schiff, that mcguire is illegally with holding a whistleblower complaint, possibly to protect president trump and taking extraordinary steps, says the congressman, to withhold the complaint from congress, which he says is where it is supposed to go. schiff says, quote, the inspector general of the intelligence committee found that complaint not only credible, but urgent. more than ten days since the director was obligated to transmit the complaint to the intel committees, the committee has still not received the disclosure from the director in violation of the law. the committee can only conclude that the serious misconduct at issue involves the president of the united states and/or other senior white house or administration officials. now, we just happen to have the
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chair of the house judiciary committee, congressman jerry nadler, here tonight. thank you for being with us. we have a lot to talk about. one, this is not your bailiwick. this is schiff doing this. we spoke before. you did not know anything about this. but what else could it be? what could the dni say in response to why they are not delivering it to the house committee? >> i don't think he could say anything reasonable. i mean, the reason he might be doing it is because who knows what damning facts it may show. >> on the flip side, congressman, could he say you got it wrong, adam, it's not about you. it has nothing to do with the white house? >> no. this fits into the pattern of the administration's behavior in with holding information, in conducting complete cover-ups, and being contemptuous of the
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law. the president said he would disobey all subpoenas from congress and they have done that. that was article 3 of the nixon impeachment, by the way, for doing that. the law says that the internal revenue service shall give anyone's tax returns upon to the chairman of the ways and means committee. they simply refused to do it. they are with holding information from congress, from the american people, that they are bound by law to supply. this is just another instance of their being contemptuous of the law. >> the press release cites the watergate era and says an agreement was made at that time that when something like this happens, congress would get it. they promise to handle the type of information that can be of national security level confidentiality the right way. but what does the law say about what is supposed to happen in this situation? >> well, certain information, i am not an expert in that part of the law, but certain information must be shared with the intelligence committee and only the intelligence committee.
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some information has to be shared with the so-called eight leaders. >> the gang of eight? >> the gang of eight, which is a smaller group. but certainly this information apparently, whatever it is, has to be shared with the intelligence committee. for that matter, another example. the president annually sets the number of refugees to be admitted to the united states. by law, after consultation with the appropriate committees in congress. he hasn't done that. in fact, the chairperson of the subcommittee, we sent a letter demanding add vit consultation of the new fiscal year. they didn't do it last year. they are trying to operate in the absence of information to anybody. >> all right. so you are creating an abundant premise for my next question.
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if a head of a committee, such as yours, believes what you obviously believe, your duty in the constitution is to start investigating to see if you have the facts for grounds for impeachment, and it is called an impeachment inquiry. is that what you are doing right now? >> it is not necessarily called an impeachment inquiry. that's a made-up term without legal significance. it is, however, what we are doing. and we have been very clear the last several months in filings into with the court, in public statements, in official statements in the committee we are conducting an investigation with the purpose, among other things, of determining whether to report articles of impeachment to the entire house. that's exactly what we are doing. whether you want to call it an impeachment investigation, impeachment inquiry, i am not interested in the nomenclature. >> and i'm with you on that. i don't care what you call it either as long as you call it one thing. it seems that different people say different things within your own party and leadership. >> and some people don't understand there is no
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significance to these terms. you can call what we are doing an investigation, you can call it an inquiry, call it anything you want. the fact is we are doing our job under the constitution, which is to conduct a series of hearings, an investigation into whether to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment. >> one reason that articulating the exercise can matter is when you look at -- >> i just articulated. >> in terms of being specific and being with one voice about it is what the doj said in its pleadings today was they haven't even decided if they are going to impeach or not. the audience should know, while operating under the guise of impeachment does not give you more powers, it does give a suggestion of importance to the courts potentially? >> i think you have to be careful. i am not sure that's exactly what they said the doj. they had a 40-page submission today which they denied -- i'm
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told what they denied was that we are conducting an investigation into whether to report articles of impeachment. now, it's certainly not the case that we have decided to report articles of impeachment. that's done at the end of the investigation. we are investigating whether we have adequate grounds and whether it's advisable do that or not. we will make that determination. we will vote articles or impeachment or decide not to. >> do you have time do this before the election? >> oh, yeah. we do. i think we do. that's what we're doing. and there is ample precedent. we will answer them in court next week. but in the preamble to the -- in the whereas clauses of the procedures that the committee adopted yesterday with which to conduct the further hearings in this investigation of whether to report articles of impeachment we went through the history of the statements in committee and in the court filings, detailing
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exactly what we are doing, and the fact -- actually we didn't do this in the preamble, a statement in the committee, the fact that most impeachments handled by the house have not begun with the house resolution. they have begun in the judiciary committee exactly as this one has. >> let's do this. the idea of timing, efficacy and impact matters. let me take a break. stick around, chairman. let's talk about than where your party is and where both parties are with any chance of getting something done on gun control. thank you for being with us. a lot of news here. we are going to continue to follow this explosive accusation from chairman schiff against the acting dni about an alleged cover-up of a whistleblower's concerns. plus, as you just heard me refer, beto o'rourke last night made his moment by saying hell yes, we're coming for your ar-15s. sparked a threat from one lawmaker and a lot of nervous gun owners around the country. what does that mean for the debate? next.
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what a night. chairman schiff is saying that the director of national intelligence is wrongly withholding a legitimate allegation of a type of intelligence issue from the committee. we have chairman nadler here. he says that he believes that they have time to bring articles of impeachment if they find a reasonable basis. that is a very provocative idea. we want to talk guns. thank you for sticking around, chairman. good to have you. timing wise, they are fighting you in court every step of the way, this doj set of papers today about grand jury testimony. they say you haven't argued any requisite need, which is somewhat of a soft standard for getting grand jury testimony of this kind from a president. and this is about time also. if they fight you in court all steps of the way, how do you get this done before the election? >> well, hopefully, we could get
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a decision from -- by the end of october in the district court, hopefully by the end of -- before thanksgiving from the circuit court and hopefully the supreme court will take the case. the law is pretty clear on most of this, established bit nixon case, among others, in am one. number two, there are a number of grounds for impeachment. we are going beyond the mueller report. most of the witnesses is relevant to an article of impeachment referring to obstruction of justice in trying to suppress the mueller investigation. but collusion with the russians, personal profiteering by the emoluments close, corruption of any number of ways. >> enough to satisfy the standard of high crime and misdemeanor?
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>> oh, yes. one article of impeachment, article 3 of the nixon impeachment, was that the president, president nixon that is, improperly defied congressional subpoenas. this president trump not only has defied all congressional subpoenas, he said in advance he was going to. >> you had a felony that took the country by surprise that implicated the president of the united states. >> you may very well have felonies here, too. and the subpoenas are a way of covering it up. and what nixon was impeached for wasn't the felony. it was for the cover-up. these abuses of power go very much not to particularly the crimes, although there are crimes, too. paying off women in order to keep -- in order to keep the information way from the public before the election, which is procuring election by fraud, is a very impeachable offense, obviously. but beyond that impeachment -- the central purpose of impeachment was to prevent the
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power by the president, the destruction of liberty, the destruction of the separation of powers. that's exactly what this president has been doing through all of this. the fact that he denies information to congress to make decisions. the fact that you could say the fact that he uses the power of the presidency to get foreign governments or even the united states air force to patronize his personal properties and put money into his pocket. that's why the emoluments clause was put in the constitution. >> a case that will be compelling to the american people. this is political judgment. it's not a law exam. it's not in court. it's got to be compelling. you have confidence on timing and substance? >> i think there is a very good chance that very understandable case will be made that the american people can understand. >> i appreciate your candor on this. very important, obviously, to
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the audience. beto o'rourke says we are coming for your guns. it sounds like confiscation. i haven't heard him move off it yet. he is in no particular position of power. it got applause and it's being weaponized, no pun intended, by people who want to protect the second amendment right as they see it. do you want any law that says we are going to come and confiscate weapons you have? >> we have to put this in context. we reported, the committee reported and the house of representatives passed back in february very strong universal background checks legislation. that is sitting on moscow mitch's desk. he won't allow a vote in the senate. i know people op some of the news programs that said congress hasn't acted. the house has acted. the senate ought to act. >> everything except private transfers? >> yes. >> why isn't that included? >> the question was how far we
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were going to go. and we also went -- we added -- we -- and this past week, just this past week we reported three more gun bills to the floor of the house. one which is a very important one to ban high-capacity assault weapons. high-capacity magazines. magazines with more than ten rounds. that is what -- those go a long way to making assault weapons -- >> you are not calling for confiscation? >> no. second, we passed a bill to -- a red flag bill that you can get -- a third that you can get these weapons away from people who would exhibit dangerous conduct. third, to deny the ability to get guns to anyone with a background check shows was convicted of a hate crime misdemeanor. next week, the 25th, two weeks from now, we are going to have a hearing on the question of assault weapons and what we should do about assault weapons. >> do you want confiscation of assault weapons?
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>> we will look at the question of -- >> confiscation? you think that's legal? i mean, i know there is no law now. >> i don't know. i haven't studied that. >> it's on the table? >> no one is -- no, i wouldn't say it's on the table. we are going to have a hearing on assault weapons and witnesses and members of the committee can raise whatever they want with respect to assault weapons. the primary focus is to have an assault weapons ban. and that's what -- but people can raise whatever they want about that. >> chairman, i threw a lot at you tonight. i appreciate it. friday the 13th living up to its name. thank you. i look forward to have you on going forward. another battle looming in the country may come over vaping. e-cigarettes. the companies behind it are not taking these concerns well. the head of the american vaping association is here. we will get reaction to the president's confusing tweet tonight that seems to contradict his own red flag move from just
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we're hearing far too many stories like that of adam. he is 18. doctors say he has the lungs of a 70-year-old. now at least adam is alive. six people are not. and there are hundreds of cases being investigated across this country, and it seemed the president was leading the effort to check vaping and e-cigarettes by saying this just yesterday. >> don't vape. we don't like vaping. i don't like vaping. >> now he says he does like vaping as an alternative to cigarettes. here it is in his own words. why i like the vaping alternative to cigarettes we need to make sure this alternative is safe for all. so he doesn't know if it's safe, but he likes it as an alternative? my next guest is gregory conley. he is the president of the american vaping association. welcome to "prime time." >> thanks for having us. >> so give me some inside scoop
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so start. who got to the president? >> it wasn't us. someone on twitter actually suggested it was us. it was not. what i think happened is that a huge portion of the 10 to 13 million american adults who use vaping products lit up the white house switchboard line as well as conservatives, liberals on twitter pointing out that president trump could lose in 2020 because of disaffected voters because of a decision like this. we are not out of the clear. a trump tweet doesn't mean much unless it's followed by making sure the policy fda institutes does not remove these products from the hands of adults. >> let's talk about what is the right thing to do. do you think kids should vape? >> no, absolutely not. >> why do you market to them? >> the industry does not actually market to youth. you can give examples. the fact is there have been mistakes by people trying to market to adult millennials. that does not justify moving every flavor from the market
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when we know from the yale school of public health, the national bureau of economic research, other institutions have said banning flavors will increase smoking. that's the last thing we want to do. >> when we are talking about smoking, you are talking about choices neither -- but to say one is good is not really what it's about. it's how harmful, less harmful is not the same as good. when you say -- >> if you -- >> one step at a time, greg. if you are an adult smoker it's not as bad as tobacco and it's not burning and 7,000 chemicals in it. you wouldn't argue that vaping is better than not vaping, right? >> no. but that's not the choice. >> of course it is. >> that most smokers face. 50% of smokers are on the trajectory to smoke until it's too late, until they have contracted a smoking-related disease or death or can't reverse what is going on in
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their body. that is the fact. >> it's not the same thing. >> quit or die. >> no, no. lots of ways to get off cigarettes. many in my family have done it. it's not easy. it's so hard, when you go to rehabs, they let you keep smoking cigarettes while you are getting off something like heroin. there is no question that the addiction is pernicious, which is why that industry got hammered the way it did over time. you said you can find examples of marketing to kids. yeah, you can. >> no, no. i said inappropriate marketing. i did not say marketing to children. let's be clear. >> you have college scholarship programs -- how is that not marketing to children? a college scholarship program? >> small little web companies that represent 0.01% of the market does not represent the entire industry doing bad things. i can come up with better examples if you like. >> i have a ton of examples. i don't understand why you would
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argue that vaping is popular with kids and the flavor, different cartridges they can use work specifically for kids in terms of enticing them to get into the habit. >> once again, yale school of public health, national bureau of public research, if you ban flavors you increase smoking. the most popular favors for adult are sweet and fruits. when you look at the 2.5, 3 million ex-smokers created because of vaping, they are using non-tobacco -- >> you are saying kids will smoke unless they vape? >> what we have seen as vaping has increased, we don't want youth to vape. they reality is they experiment. we saw the largest decrease in teen smoking -- >> but the question is what they are doing now is killing them. what goes into your devices -- >> they -- >> is causing a lot of problems around this country. how do you not have responsibility for that? >> what is going into the devices are products sold by drug dealers.
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contaminated thc oils. the teen that you mentioned earlier, he admitted in your piece that he vaped thc and multiple stories -- >> it's not the only thing making people sick. the only thing that joins the cases is they use e-cigarettes or vaped. >> there remains no evidence -- 57,000 adult smokers have died in those 44 days. in those 44 days some of the best national health reporters as well as multiple state health departments have been investigating this. reuters put out a piece on a fake company that is responsible for many of the illicit thc oils that sent people to the hospital -- >> why is your device compatible with those? why don't you make your device so it can't be taken by other companies and things that may be killing people? >> if you have a five-ten
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threading, a standard in the country, if you have a tank, that's how the technology works. >> why don't you do it differently? look what apple does. they put out a new product, new adapters for it. why don't you do that? you are well aware of the risk. you are articulating it with great eloquence right now? >> how about the fda require that rather than ban the products. we can talk about marketing restrictions, flavor and name restrictions, even where the products can be sold. >> they already came after you for the marketing because that's the way companies work. you do what's good for bottom line. you don't do what's good for the health of people. you know you are not selling a health product, right? >> i come at this as someone who quit smoking with the products and i am enjoying a healthier life because of it 2.5 million americans are just like me. they went want to end up in a situation where we are forced to go to black market products to no safety standards. and the black marketers will
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sell -- >> you don't know if it's safe now. >> public health england, royal college of physicians have both stated through great research that vaping, they have estimated at least 95% less dangerous than smoking. and even the food and drug administration came out and said that an adult smoker who switches to vaping is greatly benefiting their health. the fda released a warning about vaping thc. they did not release a warning pointing to nicotine products, contaminated thc oils. >> this is new territory. there are studies that are inconsistent. nobody says vaping is safe. they are comparing it to one of the most deadly addictions in the history of mankind. it's like saying -- >> that is the addiction that killed 57,000 people in the last 44 days. >> it won't hurt you -- >> you can draw whatever silly analogies you want. >> silly analogy. is it safe? >> 480,000 adult smokers will
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die. we need solutions, not just prohibitions on safe products. >> how did people get off smoking before this? >> nicotine gum, patch, lozenge, cold turkey. from 2003 to 2009, the adult smoking rate stagnated. even through a recession with a cigarette tax hike. >> do you have kids? >> the smoking rate barely went down. no, i do not. >> if you had kids -- >> i don't care if you have kids or not. would you let your kids vape. no, right? >> no, like i wouldn't let them smoke or use marijuana in any form. i would parent them if i had children. that does not mean because some parents are not preventing their youth from -- >> so you don't think everything that i see on social media all the time, i got a 16-year-old, a 13-year-old, and a 9-year-old. they all know what vaping is. they all see it online. they see it running through companies that are marketing them products that go through
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devices like your own, if not juul marketing outwardly, that made this thing cool like we saw with tobacco. there are reasons that we put the prohibitions on tobacco we did and you don't have them. you can throw concerts. you guys can front things. tobacco can't. >> let's talk. let's talk about restricting marketing. fine. let's talk about restricting favor names, restricting packaging. why are we talking about prohibiting a -- >> that's a problem, too. we put warnings on cigarettes. you don't have any warnings. why do you have to be forced to do things that you should do? >> we do have warnings. >> do you have a warning that says vaping can kill you? >> if you vape with thc oils perhaps. the warning on the package is an accurate scientific statement from the fda. >> it is a completely limited minimum that you have to do. that's why government has to come in. they had to tell you not to market the way you were because
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you wouldn't do it on your own. they have to tell you they may have to stop it because you won't stop it on your own. until somebody makes you have to stop, you want to keep selling it. it's not because it's safe. your argument is it's less bad than tobacco. am i right? >> far, far less harmful. >> johns hopkins has a study inconsistent with those findings. it's its not about the studies. why are kids dying? why are hundreds of cases -- >> contaminated. contaminated thc oils. the health departments in oregon and another state -- >> so you believe at the end of the day we will never learn that -- we will never learn that putting something with hot steam that you suck into your lungs with all kinds of chemicals in it are not bad for you? some day someone will say it's okay? knock yourself out? >> once again, once again, this is a product for adult smokers to get off of cigarettes. the most deadly habit known to
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man. >> why does it get marketed to young kids if that's all it's for? >> 95% less harmful than smokers. smokers need to know -- >> i get the less bad argument. you are throwing concerts. that's not for adult smokers and you know it. >> concerts aren't for adults. >> there are kids concerts. >> have you been to a concert in the past 20 years? name what kid concert -- >> i'm very hip. this isn't something i want to mess around with and be cute about because you have kids laying in hospital beds all over the country and what they have in common is they are using your product and you don't seem that concerned about it. you are looking at the minimum -- >> what do they have in common? according to "the new england according to "the new england journal of medicine," 84% of the patients admitted to thc vaping and the journalists that have been covering this story and focusing almost exclusively -- >> they don't know the answers. and there is a kid sitting in a hospital bed with a lawsuit
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against you saying that you're marketing hooked him in like other kids and it wasn't about thc for. >> there is no lawsuit against us. let's be clear. >> that's true. he is going after something else. eventually we will see what happens here. i wanted know where disposition was if you will do things or have to be forced to do things. >> if you want to legalize marijuana, combat illicit thc cartridges. there is nothing i can do against drug dealers. >> the president was concerned until he wasn't. we will stay on the story. mr. conley, i appreciate you coming on to make your case. >> thank you. great debate. >> all right. if you were watching last night's debate, you might have seen a different kind of ad that might be equally as obnoxious. a republican pac ad. that was what the ad was supposed to do. it shows the face of a democratic congresswoman, aoc, bursting into flames. what good can come from that? we'll take it up, next.
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we have elizabeth heng, the executive director of the new pace is pac ad with us right now. thank you for joining us. you may have to change the name of the pac it new faces with a hole burning them. that's what you did to aoc. you said no petty politics, no bickering. why do this? >> absolutely not. the only thing -- the thing is, is miss alexandria ocasio-cortez is the face of socialism. throughout history socialism has killed lives, including those in my very own family. and so i was merely wanting to force the discussion of talking about what true socialism is in our country and to force that debate. >> i understand that and i just want people to know -- >> it's an important topic for us. >> elizabeth, i want -- >> important topic to have that discussion. >> understood. and i want to have it because,
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first, i want people to do research. they can find out more about your family. i in no way want to disrespect what they went through under pol pot. i am happy you stand as testament to america's welcome coming here for from oppression, making the life for your brothers and you with your amazing education and what you have done with it. let's talk about how you are putting it to use. you are so well educated. you know that you can talk about socialism any way you want. pol pot was a brutal autocrat and dictator. that wasn't about socialism. that was about him being an evil human being. you can go to scandanavia or denmark and see socialism. they are not killing people. why paint with that kind of brush against a set of ideas coming from a democrat in your own country? >> and that's the thing, is pol pot learned socialist ideologies in france and wanted to create a
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utopia, and quickly that evolved into the murderous regime it became. we need to have this conversation in this country what socialism has become in this country. we have seen how that doesn't work. and right now you talk about canada and denmark and other places, like and the -- they have become capitalist nations, and to implement the ideas in which miss ocasio-cortez and the squad continue to do that are not real concepts, that can't -- >> what are they asking for that would be anything like what that kind of brutal oppressor did to thinks people? i don't get the comparison. >> no. if you look at it, it's -- they are -- they represent socialism. >> but socialism doesn't mean shoot you dead in the streets. >> it has evolved. you know, when hugo chavez in venezuela was talking about socialism in that country, he was promoting many of the same ideologies.
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look what it has evolved into. and so the point of this is to not -- to force a discussion because i do believe that through freedom and economic opportunities that this country has provided to myself, my family, and many others is what has provided to myself, my family, and many others is what we need to hold on to to strengthen for our country so that people have opportunities. >> 100%. >> and to radically transform it and to radically transform it, let's even just say the green new deal, at $93 trillion, to radically transform our country where we don't have a way of actually getting these things done -- >> but it's not going to wind up in genocide. here's what i don't get. i get that you want to make political points with this. but people like your family and what you represent, which again is i believe is part of the blessing of this country. your fight is with the president that you support. he's the one who talks about people like your parents, like they're some other that
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shouldn't be in this country because they came here with nothing except the hope in their heart and wanting to make it. he doesn't want those people in this country now. aoc isn't your enemy. you can go after her policies -- >> i don't believe that, chris. >> you may not believe it, but it's the truth, elizabeth. he's the one going after people like your parents. >> i don't believe this. because he's the -- i stand by the president. the thing is with the president he defends -- he fights against socialism in every turn that he can. >> but he embraces dictators everywhere he finds them. >> freedom and economic opportunities, look, he's working -- you know, i'm not going to talk -- i'm not here on the show to talk about some of what the president is doing from a foreign policy standpoint. >> why not? >> my main point for creating this path -- well, i want to talk about my main point for creating this path. >> but if you're going to say your fear is we're going to have an autocratic regime that winds up killing people in the name of a political ideology, you have a president who i don't believe
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has any capability like that, but you look at a duterte. he says favorable things. putin, favorable things. kim jong-un, favorable things. that is what you should be scared about is that him saying we don't want bahamians in there because they're drug dealers, we don't want people coming across our southern border because they're a brouns menace. that should concern you. but your likening aoc wanting a green new deal to someone who tried to commit genocide in cambodia? >> look, socialism has always been disguised in these pretty -- these topics of making life better, et cetera, but in reality they don't work. we've seen that time and time again. the more that you implement government into our lives, the less freedoms and economic opportunities we have to succeed. and that is what i'm going to work as hard as possible and that's why i created the new faces gop path to recruit the future generations of the next republicans that are going to be
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the antidote to the aocs and the squad -- >> that's fine, that's fine, but to paint them as genocidal maniacs and say you want a better brand of politics, i'm fine with you having the pac. that's america. i'm fine with it being funded by a lot of venture capitalists. i don't know how it makes it a middle class machine. but you do whatever you want to do. but the idea of saying if you want a green new deal, if you want single payer health care, you're going to wind up killing people in the streets like happened with my family and people they knew in cambodia. i mean, that is toxic politics. you must know that. >> i just disagree with you on that. i was merely making the point of -- >> you set her face on fire. >> i was merely making the point -- i was merely making the point, chris, that it is -- do you want to know what incites violence? that's socialism. we've seen that -- >> i think ads like that incite violence. >> i disagree with you on that. >> well, let's do this, elizabeth. i get what point you're making. let's do this. let's see where the issues go. i understand where you are with
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the pac. i want you to be part of the conversation when you're not burning somebody's face up on ads like that because that's the kind of provocation i don't think we need. but i wanted you to make your case to my audience, and i appreciate you did. >> all right. thank you for having me on your show. >> elizabeth heng, thank you. i want you to be on the lookout for something, something this administration is trying to do. you need to be aware of it. #bolo, be on the lookout, next. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before. with more engineers. more towers. more coverage! it's a network that gives you ♪freedom from big cities, to small towns, we're with you. because life can take you almost anywhere, t-mobile is with you. no signal goes farther or is more reliable in keeping you connected.
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what are you waiting for? new segment called bolo, an acronym for be on the lookout. police use it all the time. and here's what we're going to do. we're going to be on the lookout for things that are happening beyond the president's tweets like another blow to environmental protections from this administration. this time on clean water. here's what happened. on thursday the administration repealed an obama-era rule that enhanced protections for
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wetlands and streams. it's now a lot easier for farmers to plow and plant what they want without worrying about runoff, chemicals, pesticides, fertilizers, and polluters no longer need a permit to discharge potentially harmful substances into waterways. now, this should come as no surprise. after all, this administration has among many other things eliminated many environmental protections. they pulled out of the paris climate accord. they relaxed restrictions on power plant emissions. they opened up public lands and waters to offshore oil and gas drilling. this president sometimes seems like he's living in his own reality, but he knows when he's spinning the facts. >> today we have the cleanest air. we have the cleanest water that we've ever had in the history of our country. and just for the press, because they'll get me on that one i'm thinking, let's say the history of our country over the last 25
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years. >> of course we're going to get you. you're not telling the truth. we don't have the cleanest and now you made it less likely that we will get cleaner. so be on the lookout for changes like this. they're every bit as important as the tweets. thank you very much for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> and it is very important. we all want clean water and clean air and we want a very healthy earth, not just for us, but for our children, our children's children, and beyond. it's very concerning that they're rolling back. this one is a rollback from 1974. >> right. but then the obama administration had boosted these protections. see, and this is the quiet stuff that may have the longest legacy. >> like the judges. >> the judges all over this country and the sameness of these judges. i'm not even talking about color and gender. i'm talking about jurisprudential reckoning and
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