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welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. president trump announced new sanctions on iran and his pick for a new national security advisor, this as mike pompeo arrives in saudi arabia and the saudis display what they say are iranian weapons used to attack the kingdom's oil facilities. the first national poll of the most recent democratic debate shows elizabeth warren closing in and outpacing all of
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her rifvals. new wrinkles in the house democratic family feud over impeachment, this as corey lewandowski tells confidenants there's nothing wrong with lying and gets schooled. >> you confirmed you were asked to obstruct justice. >> no. that's not what i confirmed at all. by the way, the mueller report was very clear. there was no collusion, there was no obstruction. >> that's not what the mueller report said. >> it absolutely says that. >> timeout. did you read the mueller report? >> no, i never did. >> wow. you want us to believe your book report, you should probably read the book. we begin the hour with new evidence from the saudis. fresh sanctions on iran and a timely appointment at the trump white house. the saudi defense ministry today unveiling what they say are iranian weapons used in the attacks on those saudi oil facilities over the weekend.
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the saudis say these weapons were fired from north to south and did not come from yemen but they have yet to pinpoint an exact launch location. president trump naming a new national security advisor, this as he mulls how to respond to these attacks. robert o'brien is the pick. he's a hostage negotiator at the state department and he will be this president's fourth national security advisor. he replaces john bolton. president trump also announcing this morning, quote, i have just instructed the secretary of the treasury to substantially increase sanctions on the country of iran. nothing from treasury yet on the specifics but new sanctions suggest the president is one step closer to officially blaming iran for the saudi attacks. the president has not been definitive himself but secretary of state pompeo has directly blamed iran. later this hour, pompeo due to arrive in saudi arabia for big meetings with the saudi leadership including the crown
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prince bin salman. there's an escalation here you see playing out today. the president announcing sanctions. we'll see what they are. and even more significantly, the saudis releasing these images. they say they have the evidence. they say the attack did not come from yemen. they say iranian weapons were used. secretary pompeo about to hit the ground. >> the ball's in america's court at this point. the administration has been deferring saying we are not going to take any action or make any final assessment until we see what the saudi investigation reveals. now that the saudis are coming out with a more definitive verdict on who is responsible for the attacks, the u.s. is going to have to respond. president trump is on the road out west. that delaying action, but the evidence looking increasingly
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likely pointing to iran as the culprit whether or not the launches came from iran. that still remains to be seen. >> we saw in cnn's reporting yesterday the sanctions, it was a bit of a surprise this morning in the sense that you did see the president saying locked and loaded. vice president pence repeated locked and loaded after a couple days of the administration saying everybody calm down. no knee jerk reactions to this. it's very systematic. what does it tell you that as the secretary of state is in the air about to land in saudi arabia, the president says new sanctions. >> he wants to make it seem like the u.s. is doing something here. what we've heard from the president and those close to him over the past few days is they're really looking at saudi arabia. they want saudi arabia to lead here. as much as the ball is in the u.s. court, they've said they're going to work with saudi arabia to coordinate a response.
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so the president wants to come out and say, hey, even though we're meeting with the saudis today, we are still going to be taking some action on our own. the question, however, is what more sanctions can the u.s. actually put on iran? they have been leading this maximum pressure campaign for over a year now. you talk to experts who study the iranian economy. they say the maximum pressure campaign has had a devastating impact, but there's not much more the u.s. can do alone. >> that is why some of the hawks in congress are stepping forward. lindsey graham calling this testing time for the region and the united states. he says i hope we pass the test in the eyes of the itoayatollah.
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>> i'm hoping that secretary pompeo can pull together a coalition that will act in a fashion to change iran's behavior. i support the idea of working on a regional coalition. i would like to see the president go to the u.n. and make the case that iran's behavior is an act of war against saudi arabia and must be dealt with firmly. >> by regional coalition, he's not talking about a regional coalition to add new angstsanct. he's talking about a regional coalition to strike iranian oil facilities. >> it's one thing to defer entirely to the saudis, which is what we've seen the president doing in the runup to this. whether he is going to go ahead and order a military strike, there are a lot of members of congress, a lot of republicans who were very upset when the president pulled back from taking that strike after the
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drone downing. i think they feel like that was a failure of the test that lindsey graham is talking about and they want to see if the president is willing to go where he has signalled that he's willing to go and actually contemplate a military action. but it's funny because we do see the push/pull on the president both inside and outside the white house. he seems to want to talk tough and aggressive, but when it comes to actually executing a strike, he has been unwilling to do that. >> we're going to the united nations assembly next week. the president is going to go there and make a plea that we should all work together. the president has been so critical of the united nations thus far and has not been willing to work in these broader coalitions when it comes to any kind of multilateral action. now he's going to go to the u.n. and say, hey, let's work together. it's going to be very interesting to see how allies receive them understand a number of european allies have been
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embracing closer ties. >> we've seen senator graham there. if this were in the obama administration and the obama administration was being so deferential to the saudis, i believe we'd hear that term leading from behind, which we heard quite a bit from the obama era. you're seeing republicans trying to nudge him along by going on television. yet yesterday he had a twitter back and forth with lindsey graham. the president getting back in senator graham's face and saying, no, lindsey, it's a sign of strength. it's the hawks in the republican party who don't understand what the president's trying to do here. >> they don't understand that. and there is the mike lee-rand paul wing, which has been much more sort of passive, we don't want to get engaged in too many
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foreign wars. they've been in the president's ear for a couple of years on this issue. the saudis themselves have had a checkered recent past with a lot of american politicians. we're coming up on the one-year anniversary of the kashoggi murder. there are people like chris murphy who have been trying to rein in our alliance with the saudis. it creates a lot of division from both parties on this front. >> we do know robert o'brien is more of a career guy at the state department. he's not out front like a john boltoore of a career operative. we do know this. he has praised the president and the president is grateful for the praise. >> the president's had unparalleled success in bringing americans home without paying concessions, without prisoner exchanges but through the force of will and the good will he's
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generated around the world. >> the other day our great hostage negotiator made the statement that trump is the greatest hostage negotiator this country has ever had. you know what kwe? so i put it out. why not? you know, a lot of times if you're not going to brag about it, nobody else is, you might as well do it. >> is there more than that, that this is someone who has won the preside president's favor? is it proof we're going back to an older fashion of the nsc where the national security advisor pulls in everybody's opinion as more of a coordinator, not himself a policy maker. >> robert o'brien served under the george w. bush administration. that gives some of the more establishment republicans a little bit of ease in the sense that he would kind of stick to the usual track for diplomacy. most recently robert o'brien
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caught the president's favor because he was one of the le leading negotiators that travelled to sweden when rapper asap rocky was locked up fthere. the president talked publicly about it. it was of great concern to him. so he definitely caught the president's attention with that as well. i know from my reporting that o'brien was at the white house last week and the president afterwards told his advisors he likes the look of him. president trump obviously very into sort of central casting and he likes people's look as part of their qualifications. that was something he was telling his advisors. here he is. he got the job. it's going to be interesting to see moving forward how he changes things. >> interesting moment, dicey moment as which to take the job. we wish mr. o'brien the best. tweet us using the hashtag inside politics. we might answer your question at the end of the program or on our podcast. up next, feel free to leak
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house speaker nancy pelosi sending a loud message to her judiciary committee chairman, pull back on impeachment. quote, you can feel free to leak this. that's what pelosi told lawmakers in a meeting last week, according to multiple people who spoke to politico. this refers to the speaker's displeasure at jerry nadler and
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his judiciary committee staff. in that meeting pelosi complained nadler and his staff keep talking about impeachment as the likely result of their investigations, which she sees as putting the party at risk for a 2020 defeat. sources tell cnn pelosi repeated a version of that this morning, that pelosi would make clear that she doesn't want her remarks to stay secret underscores just how mad she is. former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski gave little new information at tuesday's hearing but he did offer this key bit of mueller report confirmation. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe so that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> let's do the speaker's anger
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first and come back to corey lewandowski. we've known for some time she thinks don't put this cart out in front of the horse, the senate's not going to do anything, even if we have a case for impeachment, it's risky for us in 2020. she's now in meetings being critical of the chairman and his staff. what does that tell us? >> the staff part is really important here, because nancy pelosi, if you're a duly elected member, if you are one of the 435, she knows you're important. you are a vote. if you are staff, you're staff. she once looked at the omb negotiations -- correct me if i got it wrong, i think her exact words were, "and what's your a"? so staff should be staff. this is one of the most critical decisions the house of representatives can make, impeaching the president or not.
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the right wing is very much against it. they're very ginned up. they're ready to fight. the left wants it, but they're just not as ginned up as the right wing. that's just a terrible place to go into such an important fight. so she's trying to hold back the horses. >> she's mad clearly, but isn't she somewhat also responsible? she's the leader of the group here. a majority of her members blooe believe it's the right way to go. if she's going to tell them "i think you're wrong" and keep them in the corral, if you will, she's months late. the word impeachment, they have written the last chapter. they all say we're going to get to impeaching the president of the united states and fill in the book. >> it's not just staff. if it is in fact the judiciary staff she's taking issue with, then she's implicitly taking issue with jerry nadler himself because he's the chairman of the committee and this is a strategy that's been devised by him. she has signed off not only on the approach but every bit of
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judiciary committee has done.the i think her quibble is really more with the messaging than with the strategy. that said, the spectacle of the divisions within the party has become very damaging and i think that's what's ticking her off. the more nadler goes on tv and interviews and opening statements in his committee and says "we are in an impeachment investigation," the less people are going to listen to her when she says "we don't know where this goes, we're just doing our job trying to investigate and oversee what the president does. >> it also puts people back into their polarized corners, which is the world we live in. if you believe they're trying to impeach the president and you're a trump supporter, you're mad, you're not listening to what corey lewandowski says on the record. yes, the president called me and said, hey, get jeff sessions to move on the special counsel. that's a big deal. that is potentially obstruction of justice.
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it's certainly a president of the united states asking a private citizen to do something a private citizen should have no role in doing. but it gets lost when you're in your corner. another thing corey lewandowski made clear, telling members of the congress, yeah, i lie to the media, which is lying to you, the american public. he said, no big deal. >> the question is are you a truth teller in that interview? >> i'm a truth teller every time i stand before congress or a committee of jurisdiction and raise my hand and swear to god under oath. >> my question, sir, when you said the president never asked you to get involved with mr. sessions -- >> i have no obligation to have a candid conversation with the media, just like they have no obligation to cover me honestly. >> i think we all know corey lewandowski feel this s this wa given the way he talks to the media. the talk of impeachment, with the details of the mueller report, if you talktoswing voters, they don't really
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understand what's happened at this point with the impeachment process and they care more about issues like health care. i think that's kind of what's on nancy pelosi's mind right now in trying to figure out a path forward for the party. >> whatever your politics, when they lie to us, they are lying to you. when they lie to us, they are lying to you. up next, the fight for first place among the 2020 democrats gets a whole lot closer. i get it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i have- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off. looking good, patrick. i know. (vo) go national. go like a pro.
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to the 2020 race now and the state of play in the democratic primary after last week's big debate. brand new poll has the same five candidates leading the pack, but joe biden's hold on the lead is narrowing quite a bit. let's take a look. here's the polling. biden, warren, sanders and then buttigieg and harris down lower in single digits. biden at 31%, up five points. so good for him since the nbc "wall street journal" poll in july. senator warren clearly in second place in this poll, up six points since july. bernie sanders holding remarkably steady. mayor buttigieg also holding steady. if you're kamala harris, minus eight points since july. that is a source of concern. this is good news for warren. they asked who's your first choice, who's your second choice. in that regard warren comes out
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on top. so she has room to grow. a lot of people with other kanlkanl candidates say she would be their second choice. warren has been the growth stock through the summer. take a look at this. what are democrats looking for? this is why joe biden benefits from the crowded field. what do democrats want? larger scale proposals that cost more. could be harder to pass. they want to go big and bold. that's what warren says. 56% of democrats agree with her. smaller proposals is biden's message. only 40% of democrats believe that. if she could get a smaller field, at least at the moment democrats seem to be with her philosophically. in recent days elizabeth warren has said the democratic party can't look back. does she mean joe biden? with a camera aimed at her, she says, oh no. >> everyone saw that as a veiled
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shot at joe biden. is that accurate? >> no. >> i think broadly that was perceived as you talking about vice president biden. was it? >> no. it's talking about whether we're going to turn backwards and just say the only problem is trump. we get rid of trump, everything's going to be just fine. we can't do it and we can't even think of the problem that way. >> good spin. >> that's what joe biden has been saying is that trump is the biggest problem. she's saying no, no, no, that wasn't just about joe biden. it's about people that say donald trump is the prop. well, that's joe biden's message. those two are headed for a clash. >> we thought it would be during the last debate and we saw some of that on health care. really they have not really attacked each other in the way we would have expected,
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especially for two front runners. warren has focused on getting more voters into her camp rather than going directly after biden. >> biden benefits from the crowded field, without a doubt, when you look at any polling data. he likes the crowded field because sanders takes up progressive, some of the other candidates take up about 4 in 10 democratic votes. therefore, he stays up there. democrats want big, they want bold even if it's hard. joe biden holds his spot because you have a fractured, crowded field. elizabeth warren has been the growth stock just from a polling perspective. enthusiasm, among democrats who say they're enthusiastic, if you look at joe biden's numbers from march to september, enthusiasm for joe biden is down. for elizabeth warren from march to september, it's way up. bernie sanders, again, his polling numbers have been pretty
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steady throughout, which is both a benefit and a curse. he's in third place nationally but he has a loyal support network across the country. warren is the growth stock. >> right. this is why people say and i think it's true that you don't want to be at the peak of the pack in the beginning. you obviously want to be there toward the end. from that perspective, it's better to be where elizabeth warren is, which is behind but gaining on biden than to be at the top and falling. that said, his stock has been remarkably consistent and he has kept his front runner position even through all of these debates, even through some of the attacks launched against him not by warren personally but by some of the other candidates. the question is, does that enthusiasm for the bigger, bolder, shakeup everything approach among democrats trump or outweigh the real desire to have the person who's best able to go up against trump, which it seems like the members of the democratic party still feel is joe biden. >> iowa and new hampshire go
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first. they get to see the candidates more. here's my question. do surrogates help in the sense that joe biden has having it out with bernie sanders and elizabeth warren when it comes to incrementalism when it comes to health care. they have been fighting it out. nancy pelosi, she's not endorsing joe biden by any means. she says she's neutral in all of this. but on health care, she's with him. >> i believe that the path is to health care for all is a path that is following the lead of the affordable care act. i think that what is being put fo forth -- i said, if that's what you believe, god bless you, but know what it entails. >> in other words it's not going to happen. >> she believes there are protections within obamacare, guarantees of coverage that aren't in medicare right now and that there are things that are just better about the affordable
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care act than medicare and that you would have to retool medicare to get bernie's plan. >> very, very popular among democrats nationally. i know some younger democrats are agitated with her right now, older democratic women big fans of nancy pelosi, big in the democratic primaries, maybe they'll never hear that. does that help joe biden? >> it definitely helps him. a number of these members of congress really stuck their necks out for the affordable care act. so nancy pelosi and others, they still have to keep that if they don't want to seem completely hypocritical. at the same time they keep on weighing, tay saying the affordable care act is not perfect but at the end of the day he's right and this is the way we should go. >> i would argue you, correct me if you think i'm wrong, more democrats today would follow nancy pelosi's head than jimmy
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carter's lead. >> i hope there's an age limit. if i were just 80 years old, if i was 15 years younger, i don't believe i could undertake the duties i had when i was president. >> elizabeth warren is 70. bernie sanders and joe biden are older than that. does that matter? will democratic voters listen to jimmy carter? >> i do think it's a real issue. i think some democratic voters believe not only are you less able to do the job at an older age, but they want a younger, fresher face at the helm of the party in this next election, particularly going up against donald trump, who is older and who represents what they really want to show the party is not. i think it's less a question of how much do you buy into jimmy carter's philosophy on this than how much do you actually want to
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see that kind of change. >> nancy pelosi turns 80 next march. i'd like to see someone ask her whether she agrees with president carter. >> okay. well, people are living longer, healthier lives but it's a fair question. before we go to break, what happens behind the scenes at those presidential debates. >> what goes on during the commercial breaks? >> when bernie goes to the bathroom, nobody goes. [ laughter ] >> corey, wait your turn! is heah till he signed up for unitedhealthcare medicare complete. ♪ now, it's like he has his own health entourage. he gets medicare's largest healthcare network, a free gym membership, vision, dental and more. there's so much to take advantage of. can't wait till i'm 65. a few more chairs, please. unitedhealthcare medicare complete plans, the only plans with the aarp name.
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another standoff between the trump administration and house democrats, this one over a whistle blower complaint. the exact nature of the complaint is not clear, but adam schiff demanded that the acting director of national intelligence joseph mcguire turn it over. by last night the office refused, writing that that time frame is unreasonable and that mcguire won't be attending a congressional hearing slated for tomorrow. chairman schiff says the
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inspector general who oversees the dni deemed the whistle blower complaint to be credible and urgent. the dni's top lawyer disputes calling it that. the top lawyer wrote the complaint involves potentially privileged matters with other stakeholders within the executive branch. here's a confrontation. we know nothing about the details except that it involves intelligence. >> more importantly, chairman schiff knows nothing about the underlying details except that it involves intelligence. he did say in the letter that he initially wrote to mcguire that this complaint and the inspector general's look into it has been shared with the justice department. so there's some suggestion that potentially it could have been shared with the white house or it involved the white house. really we don't know and he doesn't know what's in the complaint. what you have is kind of this standoff. given that it involves intelligence information, it's not that unusual for the dni to
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welcome back. the israeli election still too close to call. the latest projections show prime minister benjamin netanyahu trailing his rival by one seat. neither party has a clear path now to forming a ruling coalition, meaning the next few days and weeks will involve a ton of behind the scenes political wrangling. because of that nouetanyahu cancelling his planned trip to new york for the united nations general assembly. oren liebermann is following this election from jerusalem. where are we in the vote count and what now? >> reporter: most of the vote count, over 90% at this point has been completed. we have a pretty good idea of what these results look like. it looks like prime minister netanyahu easterl's likud party
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behind. it may quickly lead to political chaos in the next weeks moon s . because of that, netanyahu knows he captan't declare victory but also doesn't have to give a concession speech. when he spoke, he said he has united the parties under his leadership into a big right wing and religious block and they will move forward together. that gives him some leverage over what he sees as his block, but november enough tolare victory. that means the two most important people in israeli politics right now are former defense minister lieberman. and then israel's president who
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will decide who gets to form the next government. those two people hold all the cards in israeli politics and neither are making it clear what they will do. >> fascinating stretch ahead. for more on what this means, let's bring in clarissa ward. i want to start with you. i'll start with this premise that i make as a guy who covers american politics. netanyahu has been the ultimate survivor. even though he may be a seat down here, only a fool would count him out, correct? >> i think absolutely. this is a conversation that people were having just back in april. people had thought that perhaps then it was all over for him and yet he lived to see another day. and there's no discounting the possibility that he will live to see yet another day. he is the longest serving prime
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minister and obviously in this instance he has a very specific objective in trying to form a coalition or be invited to form a coalition. and that is the cloud of indictments, corruption charges hanging over him, which if he is not prime minister any longer could lead him to be forced to resign if he were to be in a lesser position. this is also a sort of existential battle almost for prime minister netanyahu. you can be sure he's going to do his best to forge together the seats needed. at this stage, it's really anyone's win. it's very difficult to predict. this is something we haven't seen in israeli politics, certainly any time i can remember in recent history. >> doug, as we watch this play out, obviously from a u.s. perspective, president trump and prime minister netanyahu have been so close, you could argue they're velcroed at times. does it matter? is it a big difference? president trump would lose a friend if, and i underline if, if benjamin netanyahu where to
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lose his grip on power. but would it make a real change in u.s./israeli relations if we have a new leader? >> look, israel is the united states' very special friend, one of our closest allies. i don't think it will make too much of a difference. it will be an embarrassment to donald trump. if netanyahu loses, it looks like it's a rejection of trumpism in many ways. it's been a very odd situation of netanyahu and trump on bill boards in israel, netanyahu wanting to name the trump heights in the golan heights in a settlement area. this sort of honoring of trump. donald trump doesn't have a lot of close friends around the world. two that he's embraced recently, boris johnson in the u.k. and benjamin netanyahu. both of them seem to be struggling in a confusing situation with brexit in great britain and now this election
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which may take six weeks to figure out who is the new prime minister. make no mistake about it, u.s./israeli relations will continue. the question will be will trump have to start talking about a two-state solution, doing more more for palestine if there's a new government in israel. >> you have the uncertainty in israel as this iran situation, the saudi attacks plays out, but there's a very close military to military alliance, intelligence sharing. is there any impact on how the world responds, how the united states responds, how things play out in the middle east because of the uncertainty of israel, or are they two separate situations? >> benny gantz is not a candidate, who while he may not be quite as hawkish as netanyahu, he is still a conservative candidate. i don't think you're going to
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see any major itch camplication change in foreign policy. there is the sliver of a possibility of discussions of some kind of a peace agreement between the palestinians and israelis. beyond that, i wouldn't expect any major, major changes. next, a 2020 democratic candidate goes all in on the rust belt. full of good. so you can be too. try our new warm grain bowls today. panera. food as it should be.
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let's close with a quick look at some other stories in the news. the attorney general bill barr on capitol hill talking to lawmakers about possible action on gun control. this as the sandy hook promise airing a new public service announcement. cnn among the networks to grant some air time for this. it is a sobering call for action. >> it's colored pencils. >> these new socks. they can be a real lifesaver. >> if you watch the entire ad, it is both sobering, depressing. i don't know the term for it. is there any hope with appeals like this that they'll actually try to do something? >> the initial read-out of this proposal floating around, this is not actual legislation.
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manchin and toomey are like, oh, this is pretty good, we can work with this. then chris murphy is like, well, i've got to get into the details. and serconservatives are going, wait, background checks? >> amy klobuchar has been struggling in the polls. on a blue wall trip right now. amy klobuchar says she could flip them back. >> i think it's really important that we make the case to them in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and all over this country that he's not keeping his promises to them and he is not keeping the promises to make their lives better by doing things like increasing the minimum wage or making it easier to get child care. >> it's an interesting play but iowa, new hampshire, nevada, south carolina come before them, right? >> this is clearly klobuchar's
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pitch to voters that she is the one who can win back those states. we saw a different candidate try that approach kristin gillibrand before she dropped out. >> brianna keilar starts right now. have a good afternoon. ♪ live from cnn's washington headquarters, underway right now the drum beat grows louder after the saudis present evidence they say links iran to the oil attacks and president trump responds. and the liar's club. the president's former campaign manager just admitted what everyone already knows. also, the man in charge of america's intelligence refusing to turn over a secret whistle blower complaint involving the executive branch. so what are they hiding? plus, why jimmy carter says there should be an age limit on the presidency. and the mega democratic don

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