we're not able to say with confidence that the belief system and that philosophy is gone forever because it's not. it's still here. it's still with us. ten bombs exploded during the morning rush hour. >> an attack like this, all you can do is run. >> terrorism is an extension threat around the world. >> deadly terror attack in london on a bridge and at parliament. >> and terrorism needs money to be effective. that money is coming from drugs. heroin trafficking is funding 37% of all the world's terrorist organizations. so a heroin user in the united states when he is putting heroin

into his arm may not understand that the money he used to buy that heroin is supporting terrorism, targeting americans here in this country and around the world. >> 75% to 80% of the world's heroin comes from afghanistan. if you can get to the country that is the root of the problem and focus our attention on those people that can cause us a harm, we have a lot more impact. >> in this particular case, we were up against the biggest drug trafficker in the world. as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. you had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people who lived the fear and the pressure until now.

on september 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war against our country. the leadership of al-qaida has great influence in afghanistan and supports the taliban regime. >> missile explosions light up the nighttime skies. anti-aircraft tracer streak over kabul. >> we went to afghanistan because we were attacked in new york and 3,000 americans died. the taliban were sheltering bin laden. >> the only way to deal with these terrorist threats it to go at them where they exist. >> the targets, the taliban military. air defense systems commanding control bunkers, air fields around kabul, jalalabad and

kandahar. >> we went into afghanistan as self-defense, as a way of targeting terrorism. the u.s. pushed the taliban out rather quickly. the leadership of the afghan taliban mostly fled into pakistan in the area just over the border from afghanistan. >> in less than two months, the taliban army had been destroyed and the taliban government replaced with transitional leaderseeringlead eager to work with the west. >> at the time the basic policy was not to let the taliban come back. so it was a massive international effort to try to rebuild afghanistan which had been a very poor underdeveloped country before 20-odd years of world. >> they had been through the soviet invasion, civil war and the time of the taliban. it's as if their soul had been ripped out. >> almost inconceivable to americans how shattered this country was. >> people say, oh, it's medieval there and the common phrase was it's not medieval, think flintstones. it was very primitive.

>> so the economy was destroyed and poppys increased in volume. they had always been a crop there going back to when my father was there in the 60s. it became an increasingly necessary way for farmers to feed their families. >> translator: we are the poorest people in this area. if we don't cult vaivate poppie we can't feed our family. >> afghanistan had 70% of the land dedicated to poppy production in the world. it also produced over 90% of the world's heroin. most of the heroin in the world was coming out of afghanistan. it was also supporting the taliban. >> after the war in 2001, the taliban wanted to return to power and re-create the islamic emirate of afghanistan. >> they wanted to institute sharia law again, which is fundamental islam and kick the americans out. >> the taliban would infiltrate

the local communities and threaten everybody and say it's our way or we're going to kill your family. >> there is a sim beymbiotic relationship between the taliban and the drug traffickers. the taliban is making it more difficult for police to target the traffickers. in return, the drug traffickersers are financially supporting the taliban and logistically supporting the taliban. >> narcotics dollars were being used to purchase weapons and ammunition to fight the u.s. and the coalition. >> they were conducting their attacks against civilians. they were going after afghan government people, westerners, and specifically americans and american military personnel. >> by 2005, the taliban was increasing the insurgency in afghanistan and i was reporting that it was going to get bigger. it was going to get more violent. it was going to be very bloody. it was going to get worse. >> the dea doesn't have a wartime mission. however, when we started to see

the link between the heroin traffickers around the world and the u.s. troops that were being killed by terrorists, we thought it was our duty to take the people out that were responsible for moving all the heroin and then moving money back to the terrorist organizations. >> it was groundbreaking. certainly in a new part of the world. it was at a level of danger we had not seen since we had taken out some of the cartel heads in colombia. >> so we started the office in afghanistan. i joined the first f.a.s.t. teams in 2005, which is dea's international tactical team. >> they are trained in paramilitary operations. they train with special forces, special operations. >> the dea's goals were to train the afghan police. we were learning what was going on not just in afghanistan, but pakistan and the region. we raecognized that the eastern part of the country in the nangahar province specifically

is the biggest obstacle to bring the rule of law to afghanistan. it's where osama bin laden fled. >> it's like the wild west. a very unsafe place. an area, a tradition of growing a lot of poppy. there is mountainous clandestine labs there. so a lot of heroin is produced in these areas. there is definitely a handful of large players, but haji bagcho would be one of the largest heroin dealers in afghanistan. >> our sources were telling us that he was dealing in opium and heroin in the early 1990s. >> haji bagcho's organization is extensive. >> he had hundreds of people working for him. >> he had individuals that were growing poppy, converting it into the opium. there were laboratories where it was processed by chemists. he had individuals that were in charge of transporting product out to various countries. >> he was a criminal mastermind. >> he had offices in pakistan. he had offices in afghanistan. and he had distribution networks

in 22 countries around the world. >> it became clear that haji bagcho was kind of the godfather. he was really the man in the shadows that was in charge. the other people that were more well known, they kind of worked for him. >> the money that he was making, the profits were going into houses, going into vehicles. a significant portion of it was going to support terrorism. it was going to the pakistan taliban, into the afghan taliban. >> there is untold numbers of people who died because of that heroin. >> and the money that was being generated from those heroin sales was going to people that wanted to destroy the united states. so in 2005 we decided to target haji bagcho. our goal was to get evidence that would allow us to prosecute him in the united states. every penny you can take away from an insurgency that is

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in i-5 2005, dea decided to target haji bagcho. >> he was shipping heroin to 22 countries, including the united states. >> and the proceeds from selling the heroin around the world were being fund back to the taliban and back to the terrorist organizations, some of which

were killing our troops in afghanistan. >> he was having the drug traffickers pay the taliban as a form of jihad. he said that selling heroin to america was a way to kill infa dells. >> this was the first time we had done something like this, going after someone that was quite this powerful on an international scale. our purpose was not a military strike and take him out. our purpose was to gain the evidence needed to prosecute him in the u.s. courts. so there are two laws that we could use. the 959 law is for anyone distributing drugs destined for the united states. the 960 law is a narco-terrorism law, which means people conducting high-level drug trafficking in supporting people in terrorist activities or terrorist organizations. in this case, it was both. haji bagcho, his intent was to get drugs into the united states as a form of jihad to get american citizens adrikted to heroin and also supporting

terrorist activities in afghanistan. so at the beginning of the investigation we just started talking to everybody we could talk to to gather intel on haji bagcho. >> dea's bread and butter is human intelligence. that's how we do narcotics cases domestically and how we do them overseas. that is what dea brings to the war on terror. but the taliban was regaining a foothold in the more rural communities that made it more difficult for us to move around and operate. we had to be much more careful. we had to conceal our identities. >> so every day my partner and myself would put on afghan clothing. we'd cover up our weapons. i wore a fake beard. a big bushy blackbeard a. we rented a local car and we'd drive out of the base into the countryside and we would meet with informants to develop information. >> it's extremely dangerous. it's the wild west. >> also, it's very dangerous to be a source. they were putting their life on

the line every day. >> we lost many people who were giving us information. if the taliban found out people were working with the government, they would kidnap them, tore change-ture them, be. one would carry a sword and cut the hands off of anyone cooperating with the government. >> but the sources, they wanted the best for their country. so they helped us in securing their nation. of course, we had to pay them well to get the information we needed. >> throughout the investigation we learned that bagcho was well known in the area, being a huge drug trafficker he had somewhat of a celebrity status. he had wealth, power, and the means to buy off government officials. >> haji bagcho was working with all of the significant police officers in eastern afghanistan. he was bribing officials. he was threatening officials. haji bagcho was smart. he was also ruthless.

>> in 2006, we developed one source by the name of fareed. that was a suedcism he was using. he was an afghan national whose family was involved in the opium business in the past and could talk directly to haji bagcho about narcotics trafficking. so we had fareed make a series of recorded telephone calls. in those calls haji bagcho agreed to tell two kilos of heroin as a sample for a larger purchase to the united states. haji bagcho told farid to give

the money to someone who deals with the informal process of huala. >> it's an ancient form of banking which is built on trust. it's a person who conducts the operations, kind of like a bank and a banker. and in that system you can go deposit money in one city and the money can be picked up by someone else around the world if there is one where they need to be. it was a system not being tracked by the government or police entities around the world. it's a human atm system. >> farid knew which one he worked with in jal jal. we sent him to haji bagcho's money man. farid gave him 5,000 u.s. dollars for the heroin. zaire logged them into his ledgers and farid left. a short time later haji bagcho

called farid and told him he received the money and it had come to his residence and puck up the two kilos of heroin. conducting an operation against bagcho's network was complex, very dangerous. moving throughout the area was hazardous. the taliban was ever present. >> the dea didn't operate independently. they always operated with afghan farces part of an overall u.s. government counter-narcotics plan. they were training the afghans how to do investigations of drugs, how to conduct raids. >> so we set up an operation to pick up the two kilos of heroin. we had some guys to conduct surveillance and then we had a quick reaction force where we had trucks with mounted machine guns. so if the source got into trouble, we could go in and rescue him. we dropped off farid and farid walked to haji bagcho's compound. a big towering walls.

they are brick and clay exterior with big gates. banged on the gate. and it was met by a young man who retrieved two kilos of heroin, delivered them to farid, and farid walked away. so we had a two kilo deal, but the investigation wasn't over. if we arrested him prematurely, we were afraid he would be released by corrupt officials. >> we had to make sure we have enough evidence to prosecute haji bagcho in the united states. so the next step was to prove that haji bagcho actually lived at the residence. so shortly after farid received the kilos, he decided to execute a search warrant. we flew into the area. as we were landing near in the proximity to bagcho's house i was on the headset in the helicopter and i heard one of the pilots call out that somebody was running from the back door. haji bagcho was on the run. when new starbucks creamer meets your morning coffee

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shortly after farid received the kilos we decided to execute a search warrant at haji bagcho's residence in october of 2006. we flew into the area. as we were landing i was on the headset in the helicopter and i heard one of the pilots call out that somebody was running from the back door of bagcho's

residence. th we now know that was bagcho. we didn't have ground forces to cordon the area, so he was able to escape. but in this case we actually didn't mind that he escaped because we didn't have the case ready for prosecution in the united states yet. we were still collecting evidence. so we landed. we entered the house. we detained about a dozen people. there were no drugs in the residence, but we obtained some good paperwork. we were able to link haji bagcho to that residence. i did go out to the back door and saw two shoes right outside the back gate where bagcho had literally run out of his shoes as he was escaping. >> after raiding his compound in nangahar, he went into the tribal areas in pakistan. so during that time our goal was to build the evidence needed to prosecute him in the united states. so we focused some of our efforts on that in the hopes we

would find a paper trail back to haji bagcho. >> we wanted evidence to show that $5,000 u.s. dollars that had gone to haji bagcho. so we conducted a search warrant at the hualadar's market in downtown jalalabad. it's a massive market. there is open areas inside the market. it's several cities blocks long and wide. >> it reminded me as a child of going to the county fair. the different sounds and smells and people. there were kiosks, carts. it was very busy. >> and there is legal and illegal businesses going on. >> you could buy a number of things. clothing, office supplies, but you would also have carts that were full of opium base. instead of cheerios, it was disks of opium. lots and lots of opium. people would come and try to advance their career in the

worldwide heroin distribution operations. >> and we had huladars sending money around the world based in this little market. and each one kept ledgers that recorded these various transactions. there was lots of business being c conducted. we drew huge crowds. we had to shut off the main street surrounding the market so nobody could escape when we went in. of course, as soon as we arrive, we are a big target. >> a lot of the local people were on the side of the criminal organizations because that's what supported their families for years. for the farmer, this has nothing to do with a political judgment. this is about feeding your family. >> the average income in the country was only a couple hundred dollars a year. annual income. >> and we were disrupting their way of life. >> so it was a very dangerous situation.

>> we surrounded the market. we had hundreds of people on the streets. massive mobs while we were doing search warrants at two stalls. our goal was to find the ledger to show that the money farid had given to zaire shaw went to haji bagcho. these are handwritten ledgers that can be hidden. so we searched the offices of zaire shaw. we found the ledger and we were able to gather evidence about haji bagcho's transactions. >> he used his name haji bagcho in his ledger? >> yes. >> these are illegal documents in afghanistan. so they have to have an accurate representation of who owes what to whom. people that are in the ledgers are under their real names. it zund sdoesn't say received f kilos of heroin, but received from farid on this date and gave this to haji bagcho on this

date. we saw the money go in, received the heroin, and the money went out. so we were able to close the loop. what we didn't realize is that we were going to be causing a very large controversy in the province of nangahar by taking his books. he was working with a lot of other people. as a result of taking his books, basically we shut down the bank of jalalabad. it was their version of wall street. maybe the way it would have been run in the '30s or '40s in the united states, but it was still a business. >> we were actually contacted by high-ranking members of the afghan government saying you have to give the books back so that commerce could continue. so we spent a lot of time copying all the information out of the books and in a short period of time had to give them back because they were guests of the afghan government. >> at that point haji bagcho was in afghanistan. november 2007 dea f.a.s.t. did

another search of haji bagcho's residence and chemist's residence. we found more ledgers, showing that haji bagcho was making vast amounts of money with his international heroin operations. >> in just those two ledgers, we can show that haji bagcho distributed in that one-year period, this is from march of 2006 to march of 2007, 231,000 kilos of heroin. to put it in better context, one kilo of heroin and distribute it all the way down to someone taking the heroin, putting it in their arm, one kilo of heroin can generate approximately $1.5 million. he sold 231,000 kilos. so the amount of kilos that he this is in the billions of dollars for one year. and we know he had more. sources said there were other ledgers that dealt directly with the taliban. so at a minimum he distributed approximately 20% of the world's

heroin. it's almost too high to comprehend how one organization could supply this much heroin. >> the amount of money that we discovered in the ledgers was shocking. he was stinking rich. and he was funneling his money to terrorist operations in afghanistan. the taliban, al qaeda. >> is it safe to estimate that over the years -- >> yes. we also have witness testimony talking about hajiba huang givi large money to the taliban. >> it was validation that we were focusing our efforts on the right target. many times in drug law enforcement, information comes in that makes you believe someone is a giant target. and when it's all said and done it may not be as big as you thought. it was just the opposite for haji bagcho. he was bigger than we imagined.

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when we first started involving haji bagcho we now he was one of the biggest drug traffickers in afghanistan, but we really didn't know how prolific he was. haji bagcho was the most prolific drug trafficker in the world. he was responsible for

approximately 20% of the world's heroin. he was also working hand in glove with the taliban. bagcho was funding and enabling acts of terror. >> so between the evidence we gained raiding the hawala, the information we got from the sources we ran into and the raid on his compound, i felt confident we had enough to prosecute haji bagcho in the united states. >> at that point bagcho fell off our radar. he had been on the run for over a year. he was working out of partly cloudy. pakistan and he was in an area that the government doesn't control. >> we were getting intel he was moving around quite quickly. he knew we were after him at that point. he was still running this multibillion-dollar drug trafficking organization from pakistan. so up through 2008 we focused on the top production laboratories in the nangahar province working for haji bagcho.

>> the area where haji bagcho's network primarily operated out of wags very mountainous. it was the mountains right up against the pakistan border. >> these drug labs are at 8,000, 10,000, 12,000 feet. it made it very difficult for us to get to unless you came in by helicopter, which we were forced to do. >> you also have the taliban in these large numbers staying at the drug camps, working with the drug traffickers, and physically protecting them. so these were complicated and dangerous missions. you know, it's a life and death thing. in the end, we would seize heroin. we would seize representative samples. we'd blow up the labs while we were there. and then we would use our human sources to link that lab to the top producers who actually owned the lab and were working for bagcho. so we continued hitting these laboratories with the goal of collecting evidence for prosecution in the united states.

>> yet again the taliban have attempted to storm a u.s. military base. jalalabad airport, the main base in eastern afghanistan, came under attack early wednesday. >> in 2008, i was at the jalalabad airfield. that particular airfield got hit several times with suicide bombers at the front gate. >> you had ongoing car bombs, rocket attacks, kidnappings. there was a plethora of danger. >> but we were continuing to run sources and while i was at the jalalabad airfield the kabul office had some representatives there and they said they had a source. so my partner and i agreed to go out and pick up the source for them. we went out and picked him up. we realized this was a man named kari. i met him in haji bagcho's residence in 2006 when we did a search warrant. kari was almost a part of

bagcho's family. he often lived in haji bagcho's house. he tutored his children. and he was intimately involved in haji bagcho's i willlissist activities and he agreed to cooperate against haji bagcho. maybe he was worried about his life, the involvement of the taliban. there could have been a number of motivations for it. so we put a blanket over him and brought him back on to a base to be interviewed by the kabul office representatives. >> dea, we pride ourselves, we believe we handle sources and operate with sources better than any other agency. they were instrumental in getting the evidence needed against haji bagcho. >> kari was provided information that he was present when haji bagcho gave large sums of money to the taliban. in one particular meeting kari was with the former governor of nangahar under the taliban. they had a meeting in pakistan.

during that meeting haji bagcho gave a large sum of money to the taliban commander for the purpose of targeting americans. >> we thought it would be important to try to get evidence from the horse's mouth. and hear from bagcho. >> you can never have too much evidence. so kari helped with the second undercover deal we did for four kilos of heroin. he helped introduce an undercover police officer into the organization. the undercover police officer made recordings and direct conversation with haji bagcho. >> they set up the deal and the afghan police were able to cover it, able too take some video of the deal taking place.

and they did a controlled purchase of four kilograms of heroin as a sample for drugs that were supposed to come to the united states. shortly after that the undercover officer was speaking to bagcho and it became evident that haji bagcho learned that qari was an informant for the police. haji bagcho called qari and told him that he would eat his soul. he knew that he was cooperating with the police and was going to kill him. i called qari and told him to come in. we had to move him out of that province. his life was in too much danger. so we got him out fast. the danger levels were all-time highs. in early 2019 i was 2009 they w ongoing operations against haji bagcho. we had several sources trying to

locate him. in march of 2009 we were contacted by our office in islamabad, pakistan, and informed that pakistan's intelligence service had picked him up on false documents. >> and through the department of state we reached out to the government of pakistan to see if they would turn haji bagcho over to afghanistan and the dea. and pakistan was willing to turn him over. >> we had one shot of getting bagcho. and they wanted to hand him over at the gate. >> that's the fatal funnel. >> it's about the worst-case scenario you could imagine am. >> probably one of the most dangerous places on the face of the earth. . >> probably one of the most dangerous places on the face of the earth. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before.

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it's a border crossing between pakistan and afghanistan. it's an area that's very chaotic. 15 to 20,000 people cross over on a daily basis. no security. no one is being checked. every fiber in my being said this is probably not the best thing to do, but it was the only way we were going to get bagcho. we flew via helicopter from kabul up to the area. we landed at on aprating base. from there we moved up to the gate and it's a single mountain road that kind of weaves up into the mountains and right up to the crossing. so we would describe it as a fate funnel. >> we had the mountains and pass. one way in, one way out. so if you are coming in and you are in on the other side, your enemy, the rounds are going to be coming through that fatal funnel. the area is one of the most dangerous places on the face of

the earth. we had to hope that pakistan was going to follow through with their end of the bargain. once our unit got out to the handover point they waited in position and we described this area as the "x." that is the designated meeting spot. and you want to get off the "x" quickly. if somebody is set up with a sniper, they will plan the attack on the "x." >> so at that point we were our most vulnerable. we were just sitting ducks up there. and the clock is ticking. time seems like it drags. and the stakes were really high. it was nerve-wracking. after 60 minutes or so, two individuals walked up with an individual that was under a white sheet. the theory behind that is no

nobody knows who is under the sheet. that way no one can come to his aid because he was a well known individual in the area. but there is so much going on and so much chaos that it really didn't draw a huge amount of attention. introductions were very brief, but these are units that we had no experience with. so our trust with them was actually fairly low. so things that are going through our mind as we're grabbing him, is this a suicide bomber? is it going to be someone that's going to detonate and kill our agents? or is this really bagcho? so we quickly moved him into a vehicle. we took the sheet off and it was, in fact, bagcho. after that we wanted to get off the "x." we quickly moved through the area and made it back to the operating base, which was a secure zone for us. we breathed a sigh of relief. but ultimately i was not going to feel completely satisfied until we had him on an aircraft and he was heading back to the

united states. after we got bagcho, we secured him in an afghan detention facility. from there we began putting the contradiction request to the government of afghanistan. >> at the time afghanistan didn't have an extradition treaty with the united states. it was always a little risky to capture people in afghanistan because the final approval for premoving someone from afghanistan was with the president. and although an all lie of the united states, it may not have been in the best interest of afghanistan to release somebody to u.s. officials, especially if it's someone who has a lot of influence over their local area as any elected official. you have to watch out for the next election. so we were a little worried that we could get bagcho out of afghanistan. so while haji bagcho was in the custody of the afghan police, myself and phil kearny went and talked to him. haji bagcho seemed incredulous that he could be prosecuted in

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after several weeks of political negotiations, the government of afghanistan agreed to actually invite bagcho to the united states. >> i was shocked. i had assumed that it would take years, if ever, for him to be released from afghanistan. >> but at the end of the day, they knew we had a strong case against them and we provided enough evidence to prove our case. once we got the call, we picked up bagcho and transported him to where we have a dea aircraft on standby. i tried to talk to him and tell him we're going to be moving you

over to bagram air base, put your seat belt on, don't make any moves, sit back, enjoy his last flight in afghanistan. so once we moved him over to the bagram air base, we put him in a temporary holding facility. after ten days of baby-sitting bagcho around the clock, we finally arranged military transport for him to leave the country. the night that we loaded bagcho on an aircraft with our agents to head back to the united states, i really breathed a sigh of relief because i finally knew this guy was going to the united states to face justice. >> once he arrived, i made good on my promise. i was waiting for him there at the air base. he looked up and saw me and it was at that moment he realized he had just arrived in the u.s. you could see the blood leave his face. and i welcomed him to the usa.

i put him in my car andy to i ta short trip through d.c. i wanted to make sure he saw the u.s. monuments. he realized even though he supported the taliban and al qaeda, that he realized we were still going, they weren't going to stop us. i would think in his mind that it was a horrible time because everything that he knew before and all the power he thought he had was gone. he was booked into metro jail in d.c. with a lot of really bad men that are in the jail there, and i'm sure it was quite the culture shock for him. and i started to exit the scene at that point. i had been to afghanistan ten times over four years. it had taken its effect on me and many others, and i had put in for a transfer and i moved to a new dea office in another

country and tried to decompress after all the things that i'd seen and been a part of. >> so we went to trial in 2011. we had a three-week trial. >> haji bagcho was charged with conspiracy to distribute and distribution of heroin, knowing or intending to import to the u.s., engaging in drug trafficking and providing funds to terrorist organizations. >> to just look at him, you wouldn't know that this little man was responsible for so much death. we brought in 17 witnesses from as far away as hong kong. we had six or seven afghan witnesses who came from afghanistan, at great risk to their own well being and the well being of their families, and testified against haji bagcho. >> just like in the interview we had in kabul, he continued to deny had had anything to do with the case.

>> and we had a hung jury. we retried haji bagcho again in the spring of 2012 and the jury came back pretty quickly with a guilty verdict. >> he was found guilty of all the charges and he was sentenced to three life sentences in the united states. >> i think he was shocked when it actually happened. >> he appealed one so he's down to two life sentences now. the other ones are pretty rock solid. >> the successful investigation, extradition and prosecution of bagcho really paved the way for future operations against foreign kingpins and especially as they receipt to terrorism, not only in afghanistan but throughout the world. >> the arrest of haji bagcho did not stop other criminal organizations from coming in and filling the void. >> but it sent a message that nobody was safe. if we could get haji bagcho, we could get anybody. also, we're denied the hall i

b -- taliban hundreds of millions of dollars. the afghan police arrested him and gave him to the united states. we showed that their system of rule of law was actually starting to work. >> we hear a lot about these far-away places. why should we care? >> because in the end it comes back here. in bin laden's ligwritings, he talks about the war and the united states won't be able to handle it and so if we lose in afghanistan, what we are saying to the whole islamic jihadi movement is he was right, we can't hack it. that would stand as a proof of divine sanction for their side. if you don't think we're going to pay a heavy price for helping them prove god's on their side, i think you need to take another think. >> there were certainly some afghans that supported the taliban, but most afghans wanted the best for their country and

there were many afghans who put their life on the line to help us, and it will be for people who come after me in my career to go after the next generation of heroin traffickers but haji's not doing it anymore. as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee, i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people who lived the fear and the pressure, until now. it's not a fear as in petrified. it's more like, make sure you do everything you need to do.