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having a very easy time with, easier than he thought. i asked him if it was what he expected. i think it is what you expected. >> it is. >> i think he's going to make great progress come october, come november, but great progress for the country. the results are going to start to show in november. but it looks to me like he is making great progress, so it's an honor to have you here. we're going to be discussing trade. we can quadruple our trade with u.k., and we can, i think, really do a big job. bob lighthizer is here, our trade representative. your trade representative is here. they're already scheduled today to continue negotiations so we can have substantially more trade with u.k., and we look forward to doing that. we'll talk about other things also. great to have you, boris. >> thank you very much. it's great to be here, and i certainly hope that we can make a lot of progress.
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our secretary of state is here, and we have to get going on that, always remembering that the nhs is not for sale. but everything else, there's a huge amount we can do. i guess we'll also talk a bit about iran and some of those difficult issues where we share a common perspective. we want to dial things down but also make sure that people in the gulf don't get the wrong idea about what they can get away with. that's a complicated issue. we have to make progress there as well. >> we'll be talking about many things. we look forward to it and we'll start in just a minute. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> reporter: some of your critics are saying that you should resign because you misled the queen with regard to shutting parliament down. how do you respond to that? >> thank you very much. as i said earlier on, let's be
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absolutely clear. we respect the judiciary in our country, we respect the court. i disagree profoundly with what they had to say. i think it was entirely right to go ahead with a plan for a queen's speech. this is the longest period, we haven't had a queen's speech for 400 years. we have a dynamic a greggressiv agenda. more policing in the streets, national service, better education. we need to get along with that. and frankly we need to get along with brexit. the british people, whether they want to leave or remain, they want to get this thing done by october 31st, and that's what we're going to do. >> that was a very nasty question from a great american reporter. >> that was an american reporter? >> it was an american reporter. >> it was a very nice one. i think he was asking the
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question to be fair that a lot of british reporters would have asked me. >> i tell you, i know him well, he's not going anywhere. any other questions? >> any idea how the prime minister should deal with the charges? >> no, i think he's dealing very well. i've watched it very closely. he's a friend of mine. i tend to watch friends closer than enemies but the enemies you have to watch in a different way. i think he's doing very well. it's a complicated subject, but they took a vote and the vote -- i was there, i happened to be there. >> you were there that day. >> i even made a prediction. it was the correct prediction. that was a long time ago, and it takes a man like this to get it done. they have to get it done, otherwise it will be a terrible thing to do it any other way. i don't see another vote, i don't see anything happening. i think he's going to get it done. >> reporter: what was your reaction when you heard the u.k. supreme court decision? what was your reaction? >> i had no reaction, i just asked boris, and to him it's
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another day in the office. he's a professional. it's just another day in the office. >> tomorrow is another day in parliament. >> we had, boris, the first couple months, i think we were 0 for 7 with the supreme court. since then we won the wall, we won asylum, we won some of the biggest ones. we've had a great streak going. but we started off, we were 0 for 7, and then as you will report back the first time, you were shocked that we won. since then we've almost run the table. we've won a lot of decisions. i'm sure that will happen to you. >> we're not counting our chickens and we're full of respect for the justices of our supreme court. but we're going to push on. we're going to respect what the court has to say, but we're going to get on ask deliver bnd brexit. i think that's what the people want. >> he has total respect for the court. >> reporter: on a separate subject, can you explain why aid
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to ukraine was stopped? >> because i think other countries should be paying also. why is the united states the only one paying to ukraine? i've been talking about this for a long time, not only with respect to ukraine but a lot of other countries. why isn't germany? i just met with the chancellor. why isn't germany, why isn't france, why aren't these other countries paying? why are we paying all the time, and nobody is giving to ukraine. president obama used to send pillows and sheets. i send automatic weapons to ukraine. i don't know if you know it or not, that payment was made. but i wanted to get other countries. other countries should also pay, because frankly, it affects them more. there's a wall between russia and the u.k. and they don't pay, and why are they not paying? why is it always the united states that's paying? i made that loud and clear. i told that to mick mulvaney, i told it to a lot of people. i told it to a lot of different people. i told it to mike, i told it to
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two mikes, i told it to steve. i said it to wilbur ross. i keep asking the same question. why is it that the united states is always paying these foreign countries and other foreign countries that frankly are much more affected, they're not? so i said, hold it up. let's get other people to pay, and then everybody called me, oh pleer please, can we pay? there was never any quid pro quo. the letter was beautiful. it was a perfect letter. unlike biden, who, by the way, what he said was a horror. ask how his son made millions of dollars from ukraine, made millions of dollars from china even though he had no expertise whatsoever, okay? so what he did was a real problem. with us there was no pressure applied, no nothing. okay, folks. thank you very much. thank you. >> the president of the united states a short time ago at the united nations with boris
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johnson, the new prime minister of the united kingdom, both leaders deep in controversy right now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. let's wrap this up in the studio to show their reporting, margaret tomlin with axios, heather cagel with politico, and the daily beast. with his problems back home, with brexit slapping the new prime minister saying he shut down parliament without cause. so boris johnson will leave and go back to the u.k. to deal with his issues. the president's phone conversation back in july with his ukranian counterpart. there is a whistleblower complaint suggesting the president did something wrong in that conversation. the president himself has now conceded he asked the ukranian president to investigate joe biden and the role of joe biden's son hunter working for a
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ukranian gas company. the president said no quid pro quo. it was a beautiful letter. he was confused himself over the details. the democrats are meeting this afternoon. they could move forward soon with impeachment or at least inch toward impeachment. the president earlier called that ridiculous. he said, never a quid pro quo. it was a beautiful -- he called it letter there, but it was a conversation. he also said the hesitation, the reason he withheld aid, he made a decision to withhold aid just before that phone call. if you're suspicious, you connect the dots. the president said, no, i wanted them. i was waiting for other countries to help us with military aid. the administration for days has said the issue was corruption, not military aid. >> so he now seems to be saying these are two completely different things that happened to occur at the same time. on the one hand, why aren't other countries paying, other countries should pay, and on the other hand, concerns about joe biden not connected, no connection at all. this is going to, at a bear minimum, rev up the democrats'
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insistence on the whistleblower's complaint, not just a transcript but a transcript of that call and also to have some public awareness about what the whistleblower said, and it's going to put more pressure on both the white house to have a fuller disclosure, it's going to put more pressure on nancy pelosi to move forward with impeachment from her own caucus. >> whether it's the whistleblower complaint and the transcript of the call. the democrats want to see the full complaint. there is also pressure on the president. just release the transcript. if you did nothing wrong, if it was so beautiful, if it was so perfectly appropriate as you said, the president has the power. he could do it in the course of this conversation. he was asked about this earlier today. the president again asked about this call. and he keeps suggesting, maybe we'll see it eventually but he says it was perfect. sorry, we have a little gremlin
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in the computer there. if he wants to get this out, the president has the power to do it immediately. this controversy has been growing for over a week now. why not? >> the president has changed his story multiple times over the last 48 hours and there are pieces of evidence he could use if he has evidence on his side to back him up that could basically prove what he was saying. if there was nothing wrong with this call, nothing was perfect, he didn't have a quid pro quo. there is a bunch of information if you were to release the transcript, if he really feels he was on solid ground with the way he's carrying out
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>> this only increases that. it's not just the black caucus. you saw some of nancy pelosi's closest allies come out. in the freshmen op-ed, seven freshmen from marginal districts said if the ukraine situation is true, if that is true, and i think that's going to matter for a lot of democrats, getting that whistle-blower's report, getting the transcripts, because while there are calls for impeachment on doing it, it's one of the
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most solemn things the house can do. particularly the lawmakers that have been there a long, long time, they know that and they take it very seriously. >> i covered the clinton white house the last time we went through this. for all the jokes and the tweet readings and the snarkiness around the town, you krosh that threshold, you're in a different pla place. you made the point about the freshmen. you have to think of the democratic pie, above 60%, heading to 70%. we suspect that number will grow. the speaker's voice is the most important point. her rationale for months has been go slow. we have 30 or 40 members from difficult districts back home, if you want to fight for health care, all the things on the democratic agenda, we need to keep the majority. you read the op-ed written by seven freshmen members, in a big democratic year. they write, if these allegations are true, we believe these
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actions represent an impeachable offense. we do not arrive at this conclusion lightly. we call on our colleagues to consider the use of all congressional authorities available to us including the power of inherent contempt and impeachment hearings to address these new allegations. find the truth and protect our national security. so to them, move forward with a little bit of caution, not saying get all the way there, but create some kind of forum in which the administration has no choice but to give us the transcript of the call, give them the whistle-blower reported, give them witnesses. >> look at the context of where we are. over the last six or seven months the trump administration has had a complete stonewalling approach to any inquiry by the democrats in the house that who try to get information about the mueller report and the russia investigation. now all these democrats see tha and all these democrats see there is a whistleblower
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blocking, and they don't like the white house is even interjecting into this process. they have to turn over this information because that's what the law says. there is a lot of pent-up frustration and i think that's why you see the proverbial dam breaking. yes, he talked about his political opponent in a call with a foreign leader, but also the fact the whistleblower complaint has been withheld and it does seem like the white house is stonewalling. >> i think that's an important point because there are two different arguments. one is that if the president did something in terms of his conversations or with the ukranian president or the withholding of the information, that's grounds for impeachment. if the white house is refusing to comply with the law in turning stuff over to congress,
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that is impeachable. they are not the same thing. and it may turn out the president was within his legal rights even if you don't like it, to deal with the ukranian president the way he did. for the white house, there is a decision point in the next day and a half about what they do between now and thursday, that thursday hearing involving the whistleblower, that could have an impact on ultimately whether that number crosses to 18 and stays to 18 on the democratic side or how quickly it would proceed. >> enormous issues the president and his national security need to make. when we come back, what about republicans especially on capitol hill? do they think this is a big deal, or do they just want to turn and run? this quarter... various: mmm. it's no wonder everything seems a little better with the creamy taste of philly, made with fresh milk and real cream. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? with the creamy taste of philly,
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important new information just in to cnn, former vice president joe biden set to make a statement. the former vice president will now add his name to the list of democrats calling to impeach president trump if the president does not comply with the demands of congressional investigators. cnn's jeff zeleny joins us live now. a big step again. joe biden who has been standing back seems to be jumping in now. >> reporter: he is, john, and this is a groundswell that we're seeing from democrats from all regions of the country. now joe biden also adding his
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name to that, making the point here that if the white house does not cooperate, he would support going forward with that. we do have a statement here from a top campaign aide who we just spoke to a few moments ago who says this. he's dgoing to make the point that trump's latest abuses are on top of all his prior abuses. he's going to call on trump to comply with all of congress' outstanding lawful requests for information, in the ukraine matter and in the other investigations. and if trump does not comply, congress has no choice but to impeach. this is yet one more voice, but a very important voice, as you said. this is clearly where the center of the democratic party is right now on this. speaker pelosi, as we all know, has been very reluctant to rush to this. i spoke with her last evening. she said the case needs to be made to the american people. that's what all this is about. so, john, this is part of the big crescendo here. it's somewhat orchestrated. we're seeing so many statements coming from democratic lawmakers
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asman manu raju and others on t hill have been reporting. he'll be meeting with the chairman and other house democrats, so joe biden clearly wants to be ahead of all of that. he'll be speaking this afternoon from wilmington about this. john? >> look forward to that statement this afternoon. you do see this, kamala harris making the case on the campaign trail last night, elizabeth warren has been there for some time. now joe biden, who has a personal interest in this, because the president is stirring up dirt, a locality t reckless and inaccurate, about his son hunter biden. some have said the arguments were based on the mueller report. now there is a policy, a substance reason to proceed. they've been worried about the politics. they just decided now they have no choice? >> perhaps. perhaps because of the details that have come out. it seems like some of these senators we've seen in the past 24 hours are looking at the
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reporting in the "washington post" and saying, this if this true, we can't do this. we've also heard members openly discuss this during -- i believe it was the corwin lewandowski hearing about how obstructing what congress is doing could lead to impeachment. that's been very much in the ecosystem here. the ukraine conversation just adds another, you know, stick to the fire. >> i think timing is so important here because democrats, even the moderates who are against impeachment, have been so fed up by the repeated stonewalling of the administration. we saw this last week when corwin lewandowski came to testify. it turned into a circus. democrats didn't think the hearing was great for them, either, but they looked at it and said, we're never going to get anything out of these guys. we see the calendar. if we want to move toward impeachment, we have to do it before the iowa caucuses in february. we need to make a decision now. then the ukraine thing started
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bubbling up and here we are right now. all of those, including pelosi, who was opposed was because public sentiment was the reason. those polls are still about 30% of people supporting impeachment, but they said, you know what? maybe we can bring the public with us if we make this case, but now is the time to do it. >> nancy pelosi has been talking about this since april, and she's one that's been surgie iin the polls among democrats. i think she either called her out by name or not by name, but it was very clear who she was talking about and said the part of the democratic party she is currently speaking for is getting louder and louder and increasing the pressure. >> this is all a primary stir. this is how you maybe win a primary but then you have to go for general election. that's always been nancy pelosi's concern and it remains now. it can't be good for the democrats trying to pick up senate seats. this is going to create another complete run of foreseeable
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challenges. >> that has been their calculation, and the words i'll say over and over again is we just don't know. every day we wake up and things happen. but to your point, her calculation has been that we want 2020 to be about health care, about trump's tweets, about behavior in office that o'fends a loo offends a lot of suburban voters. if you move to your point about the same time we move into the calendar year, let's say they move in the next few weeks to start an impeachment inquiry. you'll be into the 2020 year of the primaries, and what will be a referendum on trump will become a referendum on impeachment. >> the idea of getting anything done between now and the rest of the year is basically out the window. if you look at how this president operates, he's not someone who will deal with democrats while they're impeaching him. he's walked out of meetings with nancy pelosi because she made a negative statement about him the night before. that's what democrats are trying
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to figure out, whether it's worth putting the agenda on hold for now and uphold the constitution, checks and balances, whether or not the president putting up a fight in the last few months is worth it, even putting some of their members in a tough position. it's important to remember about half of those swing districts, more than half those members have already come out for impeachment. if that number continues to increase, it may make it easier for pelosi to move ahead. >> i don't know how you don't have impeachment as part of the 2020 conversation now. assume whoing who is at the top the polls end up at the top of the democratic ticket because they called for impeachment. >> i want to get to the republican side of this in the sense that if you look at the federalist papers, the co-equal branches of government, you hear a lot of republican silence about the power of congress here. to your point, elizabeth warren's big rise in another
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elizabeth warren today launching her first tv ads, and she's following the rule of politics. when you have momentum, try to build on it. there is a new monmouth university poll has warren at 75%, joe biden at 25%, bernie sanders 25%. this is unlikely democratic primary voters. pete buttigieg next at 10% in the granite state. no other candidate receiving more than 3%. the des moines register iowa poll also showing warren in a statistical tie with biden. the campaign today announcing an 18 digital in the caucus primary states. >> america needs a leader who wants to fight back. i know what's wrong. i know how to fix it.
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i'll fight to get it. >> she's the candidate of the moment. she's got a ways to go but they're doing everything right in that they see the rise they're getting out of the summer surge in the polls, now they're trying to spend some of their money to keep it. >> elizabeth warren is starting to gain momentum and biden is struggling to maintain his perch. what we don't know is how trump's surge is going to affect everything. biden has gotten a huge bump in terms of his name being out there, so he's very much back under the spotlight, but that's a short-term bump. what we don't know if this will actually hurt him in the long run as trump throws words like corruption in the air. >> biden has said the reason
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trump is going after him is because he knows he will beat him. warren has a different methodical kind of tortoise in the race. if you're the tortoise and you're in position, you have to decide when do i become the hare. i think they've decided to be the hare. the problem with that is there is a target on your back. >> when you become the leader of the pack, you start to be targeted. i remember one of the debates in the summer where biden was getting incoming from all over the stage. we haven't seen that from elizabeth warren. she hasn't been getting attacked. we're starting to see her more and more getting criticized by name, called out by name. we saw mayor pete buttigieg saying the other day warren hasn't been up front with the american people about how to pay for health care and whatnot. you can see these polls showing her in the lead in iowa ask hnd hampshire. a number of candidates call her
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out specifically, and when that happens, it will be interesting to see her numbers. >> we have a debate in a couple weeks. i suspect we'll see more of it then. number one, in the monmouth poll, she's up 19 points in mammogrnew hampshire since may. that's a lot. biden is down 11 points since may. among liberal, she's at 37%. among conservative democrats, elizabeth warren now up at 18%. joe biden still beats her with 30%, but she is proving she can expand her coalition a little bit. if the number one issue for democratic primary voters is can you beat trump and you're starting to make inroads not only with progressives but with moderate conservative votes, that would say you're starting to answer their concerns. >> one of the things about elizabeth warren on the stump, she's very good with the exception of some of her health care ideas. she did a good job explaining why she thinks what she thinks in her positions and her plans.
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if she's able to answer their questions, that's going to move it. but i do think the rallies she's putting together, they are in liberal platces for the most part, that is showing momentum. people can see it. that's also helpful and that's why they're doing it. >> i think she has shown, at least to democrats in the house, that you can run on being tough on trump, talking openly about corruption and impeachment and also getting your ideas out there. and obviously that's why pelosi has held back on impeachment for so long, because she's afraid of the agenda getting totally consumed. warren is like, look, i can do it. here's the path. like you said, it's a long way to go. i don't know if it will work in 2020, we'll see, but she is trying to blaze that dual track path. >> she sees the gold stock in the race at the moment. emphasis on the moment, but we shall see. wrecking day on capitol hill. how chuck schumer hopes to break the republican near silence on that whistleblower complaint.
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this in from the unite nations, president trump meeting with modi from india. in their discussions today, president trump said the u.s. is moving together on a trade agreement with india. no big news out of that, but we want to show you some of the president's meetings as we go through his agenda at the united nations general assembly. back here in washington, the
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president's party in the senate could soon be forced to go on the record about the whistleblower complaint and possible impeachment. he plans to request a vote demanding that information be shared with the congressional committees and that republicans, schumer says, have a responsibility here. >> i hope the majority leader and senate republicans would not block it. i hope they will rise to the occasion and realize this is their constitutional duty and realize that this involves the security of the united states. >> senate republicans don't want to talk about this issue. many say it's not that big of a deal. but at least two said they would like to hear more. >> i think it would be very helpful to get to the bottom of the facts, to follow the law that get us there. that would include the whistleblower as well as the transcript of the conversation. >> reporter: you want the whistleblower complaint to be turned over to congress? >> i would like to have the whistleblower come and talk to
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me so we know what his story is. i don't want to hear it secondhand. >> the body language there tells you everything. mitt romney, really the only republican in the senate to say we need information here, and if true, this is very damaging standing there and taking questions from reporters. senator grassley trying to walk away as fast as possible, but at least he goes on the record saying, i would like to hear from the whistleblower. >> and mitt romney yesterday offered light criticism, i would say, and then president trump tweeted from his account, mocking him. republicans don't want to be on the other end of his twitter feed, so i think they're deflecting, don't criticize the president but don't defend him, either, in some cases. >> let's just show whthe presidt tweeting an attack on senator romney who was the nominee in 2012. we won't go into the details
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here, but that tells me the president doesn't like to be criticized. he only goes after people when they make him nervous. senator romney, at least he had the strength and courage to stand up and say, can we please see this information? the president of the united states may have withheld military aid to put pressure on a foreign leader. can we see the information? the rest of it is what i call the grand ostrich party where he just wants to put his head in the sand and hope this goes away. it's not the first time it's happened in the trump administration, but it's happening again. >> that is true, but not all senators have the luxury of mitt romney who will be in office and not up for reelection even if president trump does get a second term. he has a little bit of freedom in a state that loves him. that being said, everyone else is sort of running the other way and trying not to weigh in on this. ben sasse, where are you, i seem to remember you actually criticizing the president. but i don't think, though, that
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what senator schumer is doing is going to go anywhere. saying one thing -- saying what mitt romney is saying is different than actually registering a vote with a bunch of democrats. >> the only guy as equally excited to talk about this is chuck schumer. he's going to have to deal with them, but this is really not the strategy that he would seek out. because if you're a democrat, you're running for the senate on your own merits and your own campaigns. maybe it's health care or these issues, you're going to be running on impeachment now. that's going to be the litmus test that will affect everything. if democrats can position this right, play this right, put it in the right terms and it kind of catches hold in the republican shift, as we were talking about earlier, fine, that's another ball game. >> then the other question is do we have the facts? do we have the whistleblower complaint? mr. president, you could do this in a nanosecond and give the
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transcript of this call. i'm old enough to remember former u.s. attorney worked in the justice department in the reagan days actually quit on a matter of the principle. he says this about the president. >> talk about pressuring a foreign country to interfere with and control a u.s. election. it couldn't be clearer. and that's not just undermining democratic institutions, that is treason. it's treason, pure and simple. and the penalty for treason under the u.s. code is death. that's the only penalty. the penalty on the constitution is removal from office, and that might look like a pretty good alternative to the president if he could work out a plea deal. >> that's sweet. >> i don't expect many republicans to follow him down that path. instead republicans want to say we're sticking with the president, this is a deep state plot to take him out of office. this is just the democrats doing what they always do, attacking the president. i would not expect any more republicans to follow. >> if they make that argument
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about hunter biden, we must remember it was a trump administration te telecommunications official. a trump-appointed i.g. went to congress. don't go anywhere. busy day if you haven't noticed. brianna keilar starts now. have a great day. i'm brianna keilar. underway right now, a critical moment in american history as more and more democrats support impeachment proceedings against president trump. and just in, one of the 2020 frontrunners who has been reluctant to call for impeachment now says congress may have no choice. this is joe biden's new response to the baseless allegations leveled against him by president trump. the president had asked ukraine's president to investigate the former vice president, also asking to investigate his son. now, that was in the july 25th phone call that triggered concerns from
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