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restricted access. it turns out the conversation with ukraine's president may not have been the only one. the white house wanted to keep under wraps. we'll have more on that ahead for you. plus, that call puts the u.s. president in the middle of a fast-moving impeachment inquiry. all the latest developments ahead here for you on cnn. also ahead this hour, risking the wrath of the taliban. these voters in afghanistan are ignoring warnings from militant groups in order to vote. we're live in kabul with details. live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm george howell. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. 4:00 a.m. on the u.s. east
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coast. questions continue to grow about what the u.s. president donald trump said to his ukrainian counterpart igniting calls for impeachments. we'll have details on that for you, where it all stands in just a moment. first cnn has learned that the president's other calls with world leaders were held to a higher secrecy than others. >> we have learned the white house efforts to limit access to president trump's conversations to foreign leaders extended to phone calls with russian leader vladimir putin and the saudi leader. those calls, both with leaders who maintain controversial relationships with trump, were among the presidential conversations that aides took remarkable steps to keep from becoming public. in the case of trump's call with mohammed, officials who would have ordinarily been given access to a rough transcript of the call were never given one.
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the call, which the person said contained no especially sensitive national security secrets came as the white house was confronting the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. with putin, access to the transcript of at least one of trump's conversations was also highly restricted. it's not clear if aides took the additional step of placing the saudi arabia and russian phone calls in that same highly secure the covert system which held that phone call with ukraine's president and which helped park the claim. calls aside from the ukraine conversation were placed there and those calls did reach the threshold. but these attempts to conceal information about trump's discussions with prince mohammed and putin further illustrate the efforts taken by trump's aids to strictly limit the number of
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people with access to his conversation with foreign leaders. these practices went into place after the leaks with trump's conversation with the president of mexico went public. >> we're also learning other activity by the president has been shielded. according to "the washington post" reporting, there are new details about this meeting in 2017 with two senior russian officials. one day after then fbi director james comey was fired. according to the post, the president of the united states told the russian official that he wasn't concerned about moscow's interference in the 2016 u.s. election. my colleague, anderson cooper, spoke to one of the reporters who broke that story. >> what we know is essentially this is no longer available to people who might ordinarily have access to it.
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and what i mean by this other senior nsc people who might have security clearance can get it. at the time this conversation happened, the white house started restricting these memos fearful of press leaks. we're told this memo was restricted even more tightly so that only very few officials could see it. that said, clearly, an understanding of what happens in that conversation did get around and i would note this is the same conversation in which the president revealed a highly classified source of information that the united states had about isis information and other russian officials that after having fired jim comey the day before that he had relieved a lot of pressure on him at the time. when the president fired jim comb please, there was suspicion he had done that because the fbi was investigating him and his
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campaign for connections to russia and that firing ultimately leads to a special counsel being appointed. >> let's go now live to russia. what is the reaction so far given this reporting from "the washington post"? >> we haven't really had any reactions yet. but we did, yesterday, get some comments about the unfolding scandal in washington surrounding the conversation surrounding the ukrainian president and president trump back in july. the spokesperson for the kremlin said that he had hoped that the white house would not be releasing any of the conversations between trump and russian president vladimir
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putin. they said this is a long standing matter of practice that these conversations would be top secret and they hoped there wasn't being a precedent set for any release of transcripts. but what we do know is there has been a pattern of secrecy by president trump around his conversations with putin. we know, for instance, that in 2017, that president trump took away the notes of a translator who was present at a conversation between him and putin and instructed that translator not to discussion the content of that conversation. so this is in of many ways nothing new. but what we have from the kremlin is this more general concern that they don't want the contention of conversations that they believe to be secret between putin and trump to be revealed, but we're going to wait and see as this unfolds in washington.
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>> nathan, thank you. a bipartisan group of u.s. lawmakers is headed to ukraine. that happened just before president donald trump reportedly asked ukraine's president to look into allegations against former vice president joe biden. .nearly $400 million in aid was eventually released to ukraine. one of those lawmakers who is making the trip spoke with cnn about it. listen. >> we're going to have to be very, very careful. one because of the tooask that e six of us have so yes, we're going to have to be very careful. with the military, those are straightforward questions. we don't have to dance around it.
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do you have the equipment you need, what are the implications of the president withholding those funds and it's almost $500 million of critical money. >> the u.s. special envoy to ukraine is the first to resign since the allegations came to light this week. the wiszhistle-blower writes vor advised president trump and rudy giuliani on how to deal with them the situation. matthew, first of all, how is all this playing out in ukraine given the tone of the conversation with that nation's president and president trump? what is the feedback on zelensky
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so far? >> he's been completely tight lipped about this issue. i think they've taken a strategic position not to speak publicly or to keep their public comments on this to an absolute bare minimum. they see this whole american political crisis through the prifk of their own national interest and that is about how it affects the bipartisan support in the united states against pro russian rebels and their diplomatic campaign to try to secure the land back that was seize dollars from russia. so they find themselves in this
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really difficult position, between a rock and a hard place. so they are trying to walk the tight rope against what they see as their primary national interest. >>. >> fighting corruption, that was the main pillar of his campaign. so seeing him in this tone, in this light, what are people saying? >> there's some criticism that's been leveled at president zelensky who is a political novice. before he was elected to president, he played a president on tv. he was an actor. so i think being plunged into
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the deepest crisis in ukraine for several years is something that he's had to grapple with and perhaps he's struggling with particularly because he hasn't surrounded himself with the best people in terms of foreign policy expertise. he's brought in new people. he's brought in his own people. but because they're so new at the job, because they could have handled this in a slicker way if he had different people around him. >>. >> matthew, thank you. >> already, three house committees have subpoenaed secretary of state mike pompeo, this after he missed a deadline to turn over documents on ukraine. now he has until next friday to turn over documents that will be part of the investigation. a lot to talk about this day and to do so, let's bring in natasha
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lynnstead. >> thanks for having me. >> here stateside, some voters are saying finally, accountability. some to the right, critics, saying here we go again, grasping at straws, a nothing burger. in your view, what makes this difference? >> well, it's different for several reasons. one is that this was initiated by trump himself. trump and his aides, namely giuliani and possibly bill bar were fully involved and it comes on the heels of the miller investigation. so they know what collusion is. so the biggest difference is in 2016, trump was just a
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candidate. now he's the president of the u.s. and he's using his power to influence a foreign leader so they will investigate a political opponent. and what we're seeing already is there has been a shift in the polling on whether or not trump should be impeached. various polls have indicated up to 10% more are in favorite of a trump impeachment. but the question of whether or not trump did something improper with his phone call to the ukrainian president, you have a majority that believe something improper did take place and you have a quarter of the public that is not sure about this. so public opinion may shift in favorite of impeachment. so if history is a guide, what is the political risk for democrats taking this route? speaker nancy pelosi remembers
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impeaching bill clinton did little about his ratings. here is what she had to say friday night. listen. >> this is not a cause for any joy that we have to go down this path. it's a difficult decision to make. but we have that obligation. because -- the actions that were taken could undermine the constitution and the oath we take to protect and defense, including the oath that the president takes. >> nance sis pelosi there. annoy she seems to be fully in favor of impeachment. why take the risk now, especially with an election approaching? >> i think she made it clear that it has to do with national
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security. the mueller probe didn't have to deal with a national security threat. in the same way this particular case with ukraine does because he was withholding military aid, military aid that would have been essential for ukraine because they're trying to stave off russian aggression in order to get a political favor. and that crossed a line with her. and i think she could also reflect back on previous cases. true, the case of clinton led to greater popularity with democrats. but that's not what happens with nixon. when they started the impeachment inquiry, more information was revealed and everybody turned on nixon and he was forced to resign. so this could be something that happens in trump's case. >> and speaking of public opinion, certainly front and center, this is largely political.
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it's not a legal matter. so what can you expect from each side trying to rally voters to their cause? >>. >> i think for the democrats, they're going to focus that this is an abuse of power. they're probably not going to get into other accusations which could include campaign finance operations, whether it was bribery, extortion, obstruction of justice. they're probably not going to go into what happened in the mueller case. i think they're going to just focus on the fact that this was an abuse of power. in terms of the republicans, there could be some that jump ship and decide this is too far, but they're likely going to rally behind the idea that this is. adore about nothin ado about nothing, this is a witch-hunt, and they may start to point the finger at joe biden and the optics of his son being involved in this gat company.
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natasha, we appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks for having me. still ahead here on "cnn newsroom," joe biden and his son were at the heart of the president's contact with ukraine. now he's making impeachment a campaign issue. what he told supporters in las vegas, nevada, ahead for you. plus, world leaders tend to be effusive towards the u.s. president. we're learning that the ukrainian president did the same. details ahead. stay with us. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling,
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." the impeachment inquiry into president trump was sparked by a phone call with the ukrainian president vladimir zelensky. it seems mr. zelensky took a page from other world leaders flattering mr. trump at every turn. our brian todd has this for you. >> a phone call filled with controversy and flattery. the ukrainian president laid it on thick with president trump when they spoke on july 25th.
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zelensky said trump's plane is probably better than his. trump is probably not 100% right, but 1,000% right. and trump's winning campaign was a lesson for him. i would like to confess to you that i had an opportunity to learn from you. we used quite a few of your skills and knowledge. >> the way to get where you want to go with donald trump is to flatter, to fawn, to understand that there is no compliment you can give that is too excessive. >> whether it's whispering in his ear, giving him an unprecedented visit inside the forebitten city or putting his face on billboards. not complimenting the president doesn't get a foreign leader very far from him. so they'll fawn and groovingel, even if they don't particularly like the man. >> it's done with enormous
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amounts of cynicism. whether people like him or consider him a fool, nonetheless, they all end up using many of the same kinds of tact ims. >> in that july called, zelensky mentioned trump's hotel. i stayed at the trump tower. >> new york -- >> an instagram post last year before he ran for president shows zelensky jogging with the trump hotel in the background. more than 110 officials from nearly 60 foreign governments have been spotted at trump hotels, golf courses and other properties since 2017. according to the "new york times." >> it's the casual corruption of the trump administration. >> and a saudi trump lobbying firm paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in washington after the 2016 election. advocates warned foreign leaders could be booking stays at his
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facilities to favor the u.s. president. >> they benefit president trump, but presumably against what the united states would do in the absence of this kind of effort. >> the trump organization has promised to donate the profits of foreign entity spending at these properties. and when he became president, trump handed the day-to-day operations of these companies over to his sons. but some groups are still suing the president. brian todd, cnn, washington. democratic presidential candidate joe biden is no stranger to attacking president trump, but after he and his family were targeted in the ukraine scandal, it's personal now. here was the former vice president speaking in las vegas,
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negative, on friday. >> folks, we have a president who is violating his national oath of office, a president who has put national security at risk and a president who may have committed a crime and a president who used the power of his office and your tax dollars to try to persuade a foreign leader to once again interfere in a presidential campaign. it's pretty clear that he will stop at nothing to hold on to power. >> the presidential candidate elizabeth warren says she wants a senate vote on impeachment before the iowa caucuses. the senate democrat is running close with joe biden at the top of the polls. she spoke exclusively at mj lee.
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she says she worries about the whist which whistle-blower's skaift. >> they're trying to discredit anyone who is trying to get to the truth. >> and as this process unfolds, do you have any reason to believe that any of your senate republican colleagues will vote to convict the president? >> you know, i don't know. but i see this as a lot more important than politics. donald trump has admitted that he has solicited a foreign country to interfere in our 2020 elections. that isn't right. it's a violence of the law. no one is above the law in this country. and that is why it is so important that congress bring
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impeachment proceedings to hold him accountable. it's not just about this president. it's about the one after him and the one after that. whether you're a democrat or a republican. >> and do you think that impeachment investigation should be narrowly focused on the ukraine issue or everything else about the president and his conduct in office? >> right now, i'd like to just see us do the ukraine issue because it is so clear and it is such a clear violation of law. the president is asking for help against one of his political rivals and asking a foreign government for a thing of value for himself personally. that is against the law. after all that happened in 2016 and the mueller investigation, the president of the united states knows that. this is not he somehow stumbled into it and didn't think about the consequences. no. he knew. he believed he could break the law and get away with it.
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and so did his administration. they dicht leave that transcript in the regular course of transcripts of phone calls with foreign lead ergs. why? because it wasn't a regular call. it was a call that violated the law. and so their immediate instinct is let's lock it up. let's make sure nobody can see it. let's cover it up so no one is there. and that's why it is that this impeachment proeth is so important on this issue. >> do you think it's important that all of this be wrapped up before voting begins in february? >> oh, i hope that it is. i'd like to see us get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible. >> and there is talk a vote of the impeachment of donald trump could come by thanksgiving. we'll take a closer look at that process as "cnn newsroom" pushes ahead. stau. onal information, they can do all sorts of things in your name. criminals can use ransomware, spyware, or malware
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. welcome back to viewers here in the united states and from around the world. i'm george howell with the headlines we're following for you this hour. "the washington post" reports white house officials were so concerned about this meeting in 2017 with russian officials that they moved to keep it under wraps. according to the post's reporting, mr. trump told the russians he wasn't concerned about moscow's interference in the 2016 election. the president's phone call with his ukrainian counterpart was also kept quiet. and sources tell cnn his conversations with some other world leaders were also restricted. they say few people knew the details of at least one phone call he had with the russian leader and no transcript was made after he spoke with the
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crown prince of saudi arabia. the u.s. special envoy to ukraine has resigned. this according to three sources. kurt volker's resignation comes a day after being named in a whistle-blower complaint that's led to an impeachment inquiry of u.s. president donald trump. here is how the impeachment process might play out. six committees are currently investigating president trump on six matters and if they find impeachable offenses, they'll recommend them to the judiciary committee. then the judiciary committee will decide whether to recommend to the house on a vote of one or more charges known as articles of impeachment. if a majority of the house votes in favor of any of those articles, they'll vote to impeach, but this does not mean that he is removed from office. that chamber would hold a trial
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presighted over the chief justice of the united states. if two-thirds or more of the senate votes to convict, then the president would be removed from office. since the republicans control the senate, that is considered unlikely in this case. to join us with more we have david cats with us. thank you for being here. >> great to be here. >> the impeachment process has come quite quickly. what do you think about how quickly things are moving right now? >> i think speaker pelosi wants it to move along and i think during the reset, how intelligence committee chairman ad adam schiff is going to continue with the investigation calling witnesses and i think the country couldn't have a better attorney, a better congress person in charge of the investigation. i had the privilege to work with adam sheriff when he was in the u.s. attorney's office here in los angeles. it was under the reagan
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administration. we were both completely nonpartisan. and he's a fair minded prosecutor and i think that he'll look at both sides of this, but from what we've seen so far, the whistle-blower has great sources. the whistle-blower is a patriot who has been able to tell us, george, that this is this up classification. they documents are being classified at a higher level than they ought to be as a way to hide them. now we find out there are conversations of trump's with putin and apparently with this saudi arabia prince which are highly embarrassing, but not sensitive. they're being put at a higher secretly level as a way to hide them. i think chairman schiff will get to the bottom of all of this promptly. >> you talk about working in the past with congressman schiff but, again, in a legal setting, it is important to point out this is more of a political setting.
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how do you see him moving forward? >> i think he'll move forward not hastily, but deliberately. and call these witnesses, like i say, he and his committee are working over these next two weeks. they're not taking a reset. i think these other committees will act speedily. they have issued subpoenas to pompeo. he has made it clear today that he's not going to take if fall. he's not going to go to jail for president trump. he says, look, the state department is involved in setting up those meetings. that's the fella who resigned today, the day after this phone call. which i believe was incriminating of trump. the day after it, these couple of people were sent out from the state department, these two ambassadors, including the one who resigned today to, quote,
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navigate the attempt to have the ukrainians gin up a political prosecution of biden and his son. that was the purpose of this and then out was hitten. all the people who defended trump, why did they go to such lengths to hide it? like watergate, why did nixon and his cronies go to such trouble to hide the evidence. that's what i think this one is read in context. i want a favor. here is what the favor is. and then there's the holding up of about $400 million in aid for ukraine, george. what was the purpose of that? the timing was extremely
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suspicious. >> what makes this different? >> it was always possible for trump to say he wasn't involved. it wasn't out of his mouth. he didn't know. but as i say, i think he had the uberous the day after that tepid testimony of mueller that from trump's point of view didn't really put him away. he got away with it. and so trump made this call the very next day. and it was, you know, like the mafia don who doesn't say i'm going to burn your house down if you don't pay me. he says, nice house you have here. wouldn't it be terrible if something happened to it. i think there will be a vote on the articles of impeachment and the case will be sent over to the senate. you asked about timing. i think that's likely to happen right about after this will this will, december or january. and people think, well, mcconnell will just, you know, bury that like he buried the hearings on merit garland to be
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on the supreme court. but he can't do that. this is going to be handled by the chief justice, by roberts, and mcconnell will be just another juror. there basically will be a hundred jurors sworn, there will be the senators, and i guess we'll see. will we have televised impeachment hearings and trial in the senate led by the chief justice. will the senators, including the republican senators, just put their fingers in the ears, will the public really just say, well, it doesn't matter to me at all when they say this and you think to yours, can you imagine if president obama had called a foreign leader and said why don't you gin up a case against trump abroad, can you imagine how the same republican senators would be howling. can you imagine how lindsey graham would have howled if that happened? and the hypocrisy of not doing something about this phone call, which is obvious obstruction of justice, obvious abuse of power,
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i think it's going to come back to roost on the republican senators. i think their poll numbers will fall. and just like giuliani doesn't want to go to jail for trump, those republican senators don't want to lose their six-year terms over trump. and we'll have president pence, i think that's a real possibly, as this goes forward. >> so we'll see how this plays out that this will be a political situation rather than a legal situation. so how these senators feel about it, to your point, will be key. thank you. >> thank you, george. still ahead, afghan voters are braving the threat of violence from the taliban just by heading out to the polls. ahead, what is at stake in the vote playing out in that country. or could it play out differently? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot. almost 98% of patients on eliquis
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this, the scene earlier in kabul, afghanistan, that nation's capital and across the
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country, voters are at the poles to make their vote. a reuters news service reports at least three people were injured in an explosion in kandarar. no group has claimed responsibility for that attempt. but in the run up to the election, dozens of people were killed. our nick paton walsh explains why people are voting anyway. >> it's the election few thought would ever happen, whose success may be measured in the death toll, not the turn out. high hopes for a peace deal were dashed by president trump earlier this month who counselel talks with the taliban in a barrage of tweets. that sent afghanistan hurdling towards a presidential vote that many thought might have been postponed had peace talks progressed. instead, the vote will be rushed amyself huge security concerns. but there is one likely winner
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from all this. president ashraf ghani. he always insisted the vote go ahead and now may well win a clean endorsement, rare in afghan's recent politics. this remains america's longest war with no immediate end in sight. yet the suffering has been more accuse for afghans whose daily violence often goes unnoticed by outsiders. the taliban thursday said they would block all roads on election day adding this is the umpteenth that this fraudulent process has taken place to mislead the people. failed peace talks fermenting the violence here.
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>> taliban want to take on government and put on them pressure so they can convince america and the afghan government to come back. >> the police situation, he says, shows that afghans cannot make decisions on their own and what happens is only because of a single tweet, all destiny has changed. if gahni gets over 50%, he can avoid a second round in november. but even that clean result won't provide a path out of the brutality holding lives hostage here. nick paton walsh, cnn. >> jennifer glass joins this hour from kabul, afghanistan. good to have you on the line. >> good to talk to you, george. >> so talk to us, first of all, about the mood. voters there heading to the polls, given that the threat is high from the taliban. what are voters saying? >> a lot of people told me they
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would be voting. people were very wary will security. there is virtually no one here where i am. when i was here in october for the parliamentary elections, people were waiting hours to vote and we're not seeing that at all today. voting workers are standing idle waiting for voters to come. despite 72,000 afghan troops on the streets, around the country and hundreds and tens of thousands of police, as well, a lot of people here, the voter turn out appears very low. nobody here will give us official numbers until about an hour and a halftime, but here, there is nowhere near the 5,000 people registered to vote. >> voter turn out appears to be
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low so far. and talk to us about the person who appears to be the front runner. >> well, as you know, a lot of people think that there are two front runners. it's making it a rerun of the 2014 presidential election which ended in very much a dead lock and a national unity government brokered by the united states that has ruled here for the past five years. both abdullah abdullah and arsha gahni have ruled that out. it doesn't help that there are 18 names on the ballot, 15 candidates really running and three of those candidates have dropped out, although unofficially. and that makes it hard to have a majority. but anything can happen.
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>> jennifer glass joining us by phone, thank you. still ahead, an iconic beatles album turns 50. to mark the anniversary, fans of abbey road are getting a new mix of the album. details, ahead. luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. [deep inhale] breathe happy with febreze plug.
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♪ here comes the sun i say it's all right ♪ ♪ here comes the sun >> you're watching a newly released music video for the beatles classic "here comes the sun." it's being released to mark the 50th anniversary of their iconic album "abbey road." beatles fans are being treated with a special anniversary edition of this album and it features new and unheard material from the original recording session. >> i get very involved, you know, one, two, one, two, three, four. >> released in 1969 and now widely regarded as a classic, the critics didn't realize abbey
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road was the last time the beatles would come together and record an album. and george became much more of a strong song writer. >> charles spent months listening to tape of the abby road recording sessions produced by his father, george martin, who became known as the fifth beetle after working on all the band's original albums. >> the beatles experts claim they never thought it would be their last album. i think they knew things were changing. they were becoming more individual, you know, creative people want to create. they want to do different
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things. >> times it's hard dealing with listening to your father's voice on a tape machine. it's great for me to hear how much he meant to them and how much they mean to him. >> new technology allows martin to enhance the listening experience for fans without trampling on a music legacy. his work received a thumbs up from paul, ringo and the wives of george and paul. >> they don't employ me to safe. the biggest thrill i get is their reaction and pinning paul or ringo down to get them to listen to the album. they'll say, i remember this day. we were really good on this day. if i can bring them closer to that day, that's an achievement well done.
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we live in a world with spotify and whoever, and for them, the beetles, duran duran, ed sheerhahn, are all of the same play lists. and there's no reason the beetles should be be as relevant at everyone else. >> beyond the music, the album cover itself has become iconic. it's been copied, mimics, lampooned and recreated countless times. and fans of the fab 4 still flock to the site to capture their own mementos. neal curry, cnn, london. >> thank you so much for watching "cnn newsroom" this hour. i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. let's do it again. another hour of news right after this break. stay with us. of cybercrime every second. when a criminal has your personal information, they can do all sorts of things in your name. criminals can use ransomware, spyware, or malware
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