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welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king, to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you. the first look at cnn brand new polling, looking at nevada and south carolina. we begin and we'll spend most of the hour ahead on the darkening impeachment cloud over president trump. house democrats now fast tracking their inquiry and there are several important new developments. a subpoena demanding cooperation from the secretary of state, mike pompeo, the sudden r resignation of ukraine's lawyer. a "washington post" report that president trump back in 2017 told russian officials he was not concerned about the kremlin's interference in the 2016 u.s. election, and new cnn reporting that it was not just the president's call with ukraine that was handled outside normal procedures. white house aides also

restricted access and took other steps to keep secret the president's calls with vladimir putin and saudi arabia's crowned prince. the president on constant attack from democrats and the whistle-blower's complaint is now a roadmap for the impeachment inquiry. but democrats say the president's own words and actions are their best evidence and they say it proves the credibility of the corruption allegations laid out by the whistle-blower before the memo was released. the full congress now on recess for two weeks but the house intelligence committee plans interviews and possibly hearings. >> this activity, this pattern of behavior were to prevail and the president continued to ignore that article two does not say he can do whatever he wants, then it's over for the republic. we will have the e equivalent of a monarchy. they will take the course of

integrity, deliberation and fairness, as i think we have done all along by not just responding to people who thought he should be impeached. >> with us this sunday to share their reporting and their insights, jackie cue sin itch and vivian of the wall street journal, cnn's manu raju. just as we were coming on air, cnn released a new poll. how serious of a problem is it that fruchl encouraged the ukraine to investigate joe biden. 43% say very serious, 21% say somewhat serious, 19% not so serious, 17% not serious at all. i mention the polling because the impeachment is not a criminal trial, it's a political trial, if you will. you heard nancy pelosi saying we're going to do this deliberately. what are we going to see in the next week or two? >> a lot of behind closed doors, the house intelligence committee is staying back as the rest of congress is on recess over the next two weeks to begin this investigation. you're probably going to see a

lot of letters going out demanding records from the white house about these efforts to allegedly conceal this transcript and other transcripts the president was involved with, asked for interviews, not just with the whistle-blower himself or herself, but also other people who may have been involved in this phone call. we already saw subpoenas going out on friday for five state department officials to be deposed, to sit down about what they knew about the ukrainian conversation, as well as a request for records. democrats are telling me, john, that they are not going to put up with a prolonged court fight, prolonged battle. we've seen this all year long where the white house has resisted turning over documents, providing testimony. this time they're saying if you don't provide -- agree to comply with our subpoenas, we are going to use that as evidence of article of impeachment of obstruction of congress. democrats are moving rapidly. we'll see what evidence they glean. but we want to potentially move forward with articles of impeachment by this fall. >> and the last part is a test because the trump administration on any other inquiry before congress has essentially said,

no, go away. there's been almost zero cooperation, no matter what the issue. they're saying we want these documents and witnesses and the white house has adopted an unprecedented stance. this is in the subpoena to mike pompeo, the secretary of state, it ends with your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena shall constitute obstruction of the house's impeachment inquiry. essentially laying down the marker we're not going to court this time. cooperate or we make that part of our case. >> they don't want to have the whole fiasco that we saw with the mueller investigation. the president has been adamant this is a witch hunt and he is not a big fan of any kind of disclosures. he used that in his business life and he brought that into the white house as well where he feels essentially that his staff gets nondisclosure agreements, but he also feels that this is part of the whole charade that is framing him. in a way, his campaign

especially has been using it because they see that it mobilizes the base and it kind of encourages them to get revved up behind him. but on the other hand, they're actually worried about the potential for this backfiring on him. so there's a lot of hesitation about how to handle it. one of the things they've said is there's no war room. the clinton impeachment there was a war room and the messaging that they're putting out is also kind of backfiring on them. saying it's hearsay and the whistle-blower report was wrong. actually the white house is the one that keeps confirming what the whistle-blower account has said, things like the transcript that we saw, other comments they've made of actually putting the conversations between the president and other world leaders into this very classified server. the white house essentially confirmed that as well. so the messaging discipline that comes from having a war room -- perhaps they'll assemble one later. >> it turns out facts are facts. so we focus in on the details.

the depositions, how fast will the democrats go, who cooperates. if you look at the witness list, the attorney general william barr, i wouldn't bet on cooperation from him. rudy giuliani who has gone back and forth. you see these names nau don't know at home, people who were on the call and part of this, curt volker who just resigned, i've talked to people who are nervous about him. he's no longer in the administration and he had a reputation before hand. you're looking at an impeachment inquiry. is there a voice that becomes a strong witness. we sometimes try to step back and get the moment and molly, you captured that well in the cover that shows the president painting himself into the corner. there has been such sustained chaos throughout trump's term that it can be hard to determine which outcries to worry about

and which to ignore. the ukraine affair has caused something to snap, and not merely because trump has supplied enough final straws to fill a lhayloft. not that the other issues weren't serious, but the oversight issues are critical to the balance of government and the legitimate right for congress to look at things but something did snap this past week. >> and with the public as well. i think the poll you showed earlier in the segment is fascinating because the talking point we have always heard from the administration and the trump campaign has been this isn't a kitchen table issue, the public doesn't care. this is technical and abstract to joe and dane doe at home worrying about their lives. but actually the american public, two-thirds of the american public thinks this is a serious issue. and that is the messaging challenge for the trump administration, is can they move the needle by continuing to work

the reps and blame the media and do the typical shuffle of witch hunt and so on, or is this a clear enough picture? and that's part of why democrats moved forward with this. of course they do think this is serious. they thought the other stuff was serious, too. this is a clear and easy to articulate thing that they think they can bring to the public, so the messaging challenge for the democrats is going to be when you have a two-weak break that congress isn't here, when you have these hearings happening behind closed doors and subpoenas flying in a confusing way, can they build the narrative that continues to look bad for the president, or are they thrown off their game because it all gets muddled? >> and we'll come back to the president strategy in a minute and what republicans say about this. the president's strategy is just attack everybody. but to your point about the democrats, you talked to a couple of the democrats that are nervous about this for political reasons. they may think there's a solid case against the president but they have to run in difficult districts. >> could you vote for articles of impeachment right now?

>> not yet. i think that while i find many of the statements in the whistle-blower's report disturbing, there's a lot more information that's out there and i think we have to talk to some of these officials that they have listed in the report and see where it goes. >> i would vote no right now because we haven't seen all the facts. we have to presume that people are innocent, don't we? >> and so the question is, again, we'll come to the president, but can democrats handle this in a way that their own members come along with. if they're going to vote to impeach, and we're on that track right now, can nancy pelosi get an overwhelming vote? she's probably not going to get any republicans. can they handle it seriously? you heard the speaker at the top of the show saying i was against this for a long time. i got there for a reason. the facts have changed and we're going to do this deliberately. but you have some members selling t-shirts, we're going to impeach the mf. you can figure that out at home.

it's sunday morning. that may be fine in her district, but the democrats are trying to have a conversation, including with republicans and independents, and that doesn't help. >> no, it doesn't. and they want to keep this narrowly focused which is why nancy pelosi has made very clear that she believes this issue will resonate with the public. you hear democrats say the more we talk about this, even though polls may show people don't want the president impeached, that could change dramatically if it's made clear this is a national security issue. that's why you hear it over and over. but ultimately the question is can they get 218 votes on the floor. >> fascinating moment. up next at times, angry at times and sullen in others. the president is facing the very real prospect of impeachment.

it was the president who decided this week to release the white house memo detailing his july call with the ukraine president and president trump's blunt effort to get foreign election help. and it was an inspector general appointed who deemed the whistle-blower complaint alleging broader trump corruption to be both credible and urgent. but the president wants you to see him as the victim here of a smear orchestrated by democrats and the deep state. >> it's ridiculous. it's a witch hunt. i'm leading in the polls and they have no idea how they stop me. the only way they can try is through impeachment. so many leaders came up to me today and said, sir, what you go through no president has ever gone through and it's so bad for your country. and it should never be allowed what's happened to this president. >> and so here you are, i covered a white house when the president was impeached by the house and whatever your politics at home, it sends a chill through the white house. aides are worried about seeing

subpoenaed and legal costs. you mentioned before do we have a war room. we have seen in recent days not just the president's anger at democrats trying to undermine the credibility of the whistle-blower, but talk that he's mad at his chief of staff for not having a plan to deal with all of this. his campaign says we're raising a boot load of money but no president wants to be impeached. >> molly was just talking about the shift in public opinion on this. i'm sensing a shift from white house officials on this definitely compared to the mueller investigation. i'm talking to officials who are nervous and debating whether or not releasing the transcript was a wise idea. we know that that's been an argument now for the last two weeks and even after it was released they're still debating it. i spoke to one person who is a former white house council official from this white house, career republican, and he was telling me, you know, this is bad. this is really bad. and the issue is we keep on talking about a quid pro quo,

did president trump offer a quid pro quo and i think that was a big part of the defense of why we can release the transcript, they felt like it was fine. this official was saying it's not about that, it's about abuse of executive power. >> the memo of the call is one piece of a month-long puzzle. there was an early yerl call when the ukrainian president won the election. this was a call after he won parliamentary elections. so the white house can say there was no quid pro quo, not direct, but he raised the aid several times. he talked about re-cipro indication. >> one of the arguments that you've heard from republicans is that the president is the one that brought up joe biden first in the call. the call transcript does show that the president did actually say that joe biden, he asked him specifically, the ukrainian president to investigate joe biden and his son.

the first person he mentioned was biden in the transcript. it underscores the challenge that republicans have had in messaging and defending the president's conduct in the aftermath of the release of the call memo, as well as the whistle-blower complaint, initially running into before the president released the transcript he was getting urged from the senate majority leader, i'm told and others to release the call transcript because the president defended it as, quote, a perfect call. but when it came out it made things a lot more difficult to message and that's why you've seen republicans running away from this. >> that's a great point because the democrats are going to proceed once speaker pelosi decided to make this an official impeachment inquiry. their base would implode if they didn't take it to the finish line. the question is do any republicans crack. some republicans it doesn't matter, and we have a lot of republicans saying i don't think this is impeachable but there are questions that need to be answered and those are the republicans we need to watch. the president trying to keep them loyal as he always does. more than 100 tweets in the past

week. we can just put some of them up on the screen about the investigation. this is what the president does. and he's not dealing that often with the substance. it's mostly presidential harassment, trying to make this a democrat/republican issue. >> and making an argument that other things aren't going to get through because of this, things like gun control. let's be real, that was never going to happen anyway. but the other thing, republicans also were kept in the dark about why the ukrainian aid was being held up. they know that happened and now we know why. so that also has presented a bit of -- how they explain that, because they were urging it to be released. so that's problem attic. and the president doesn't really drop things, so he's going to keep bringing this up over and over again, whether or not public opinion is with him. >> he is in some ways the most transparent politician we have %-p

is tribal, the senate, there's a lot of republicans who are for trump, but they're afraid of him. they don't like him or agree with him, but they've seen his power with the republican base. but they have to run statewide. they don't like when the president walks into a room of u.s. diplomats, brings this up and calls a whistle-blower who is trying to file a complaint against the united states government, that's allowed under the law, calls him a spy and then says this. >> basically that person never saw the report, never saw the call, heard something and decided that he or she, whoever the hell it is, almost a spy. i want to know who is the person that gave the whistle-blower, who is the person that gave the whistle-blower the information? because that's close to a spy. you know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart, right, with spies and treason? we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.

>> everything is president said about the whistle-blower was wrong. what we have so far, maybe something the whistle-blower filed will be proven not to be true. but on the big issues, the ukraine call, the transcript released by the president backs it up. on the idea that they take sensitive conversations and hidity a different server, the president's own staff has confirmed the whistle-blower is right. whistle-blowers are patriots. the president calls this one a spy, treason, says we handled it a different way in the old days. >> i keep hearing from white house officials that in the last couple of months the president has been em bolnd and they're tag it in his actions because he believes he was exonerated in the mueller investigation. so it's something that everybody around him is noticing and concerned about. >> it's a different president than last time. this president is not going to be quiet. bill clinton was sometimes quiet during his.

>> the democrats have the idea that the president can't be held accountable is part of the reason they feel they need to move forward on impeachment, because if there is no meaningful check from congress or anywhere else, they fear that the president's lawlessness gets worse and worse and that's underscored by the fact that this call happened the day after the mueller hearing. >> twitter didn't exist back in those days. up next for us, the first look at brand new cnn polling on the 2020 race among the democrats in nevada and south carolina. ♪ (music plays throughout) ♪ ♪

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debate in just a moment. to our sunday trail mix now for a taste of the developments in the 2020 campaign, including brand new this morning, two cnn polls looking at the democratic nomination chase in the critical early states of nevada and south carolina. this nevada caucus up third on the calendar, joe biden and bernie sanders at 22% each, elizabeth warren at 18%. kamala harris, pete buttigieg and tom steyer making 4% in the

lower tier. let's move, voting fourth is south carolina. here joe biden still has a healthy lead, more than 20 points over elizabeth warren, 37% for the former vice president and 16% for elizabeth warren and bernie sanders third at 11% and the same three trailing them but in single digits. a big lead for the vice president there, south carolina his fire wall state. why is that happening? largely because of the former vice president's support among african-american voters. bernie sanders is second at 13%, you see the numbers here. among white voters a tie between biden and warren there. the rest of the candidates fill out. so i want to pop ahead and look at what we've learned. last sunday we were talking about the cnn iowa poll, sanders, biden close race there. monmouth had a poll this week in new hampshire, warren, biden, close race there. now we have nevada which goes third, close race there. and south carolina, a biden lead. studying the history of

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>> there is no roadmap for this, but beto o'rourke does have a suggested offramp. >> the single best thing to bring the country together would be donald trump's resignation. >> we have never had to navigate a presidential race in the thick of an impeachment investigation. >> discipline that will be required of anybody running for president is to speak to the news of the day and speak to the urgency of the processes happening in washington and at the very same time focus on what's going to impact people's everyday lives. >> there are a whole lot of issues that people want to talk about, they want to talk about health care, education, they want to talk about foreign policy. this is the chance to hear from them about what they want to talk about. >> this is quite personal for joe biden as we learn more and more about how the president and his team lobbied ukraine for dirt on biden and his son hunter. >> after 70 straight polls have shown me beating him, i think --

[ cheers and applause ] >> it is not surprising that i become the object of his attention. it's not about me. we'll overcome this. this is fine. my family will handle this. but i'm worried about all the families and all the lives that are at stake in this election because of his failure as a president in terms of the substance of what needs to be done. >> we do have a roadmap for this but let's start there. joe biden says, and it's true, that a lot of things said by the president, said by rudy giuliani and trump allies about hunter biden are not true and they get the timeline of joe biden asking for the ukrainian prosecutor to be fired wrong sometimes. but hunter biden was a consultant making money overseas as many people with famous last names do. i would note as they make these

attacks as rudy giuliani does, makes a lot of money and is consulting for a security firm overseas. that part is fair game. how does joe biden navigate this? >> this has been a debate inside the biden campaign as we reported in the cover that you showed, and there's different camps. there's some camp of biden advisers who are hopeful that this actually sort of causes democrats to rally around him, something we know about joe biden is he is very well loved by the democratic party, still viewed with a lot of affection. so do democrats look at this and say this is our beloved uncle joe, we can't let this happen to him, but it's certainly also possible that the opposite happens, that this sort of cloud of dirt starts to surround his candidacy in the same way that the email situation became something that hillary clinton couldn't shake and that no amount of facts could dissuade people from seeing as this

ambient stain of the swamp. and i think that was a risk with hunter biden's business dealings before this became a trump scandal because of all of the enterprises that biden's family has been involved in. so when you have the president trying to make that the issue, when you have the words biden and corruption in the same headline over and over again, do voters start to say well, even if this isn't his fault, let's try to go for someone who doesn't have to deal with that issue. and that's i think what we're going to see in the sort of next round of democratic polling and democratic debates, is biden able to put this at rest in a way that actually helps the campaign? >> it's a great point, because politics is about winning and the other candidates, there's a lot of affection for joe biden, even people who are voting for other candidates among the democrats. the question is what do the other candidates do. and i ask it in the context of they're competitive people. in 1988 the first person to mention willy horton was al gore, not the bush campaign.

an issue here? >> the president has gone after joe biden and his son. do you think his conduct, his business dealings, hunter biden's should be off limits in this campaign? >> i believe that this issue is about donald trump and that's where we need to keep our focus. he is the president of the united states and he has solicited a foreign government to interfere in our 2020 election. >> very direct answer there. kamala harris asked a similar question yesterday, she said she would probably not was her answer, allow her vice president's children to be involved in any international consulting, but she quickly said this is about donald trump. >> elizabeth warren in particular has been very careful not to attack joe biden. it might be because she's seen other people try it and it sort of backfire on them long term. so right now we are seeing the democratic field step away from

this because i think there's an awareness that if they get miered in this attack on joe biden, and they decide they want to protect them, they could end up having a political problem themselves. >> what is the broader context of how do you do it? especially if you're a struggling candidate or somebody in the middle of the pack. bernie sanders is going to be in the race the duration because of his entire base, but he's running third. he had a pretty clever way to do this over the weekend, he says we're going to beat donald trump or mike pence, whoever they put up. bernie sanders put a tweet out about that. how does a candidate, if the national conversation is all about impeachment and you're in nevada and south carolina and you're in new hampshire, how do you deal with it? >> it's a challenge because the democratic base wants president trump impeached and removed from office tomorrow. they don't -- that's one reason why elizabeth warren has been successful, she's one of the

first people who came out aggressively for impeachment. she got a lot of attention and voters like that kind of fire power from a candidate, but at the same time as we've seen from polling, more moderate voters, swing voters, people in other parts of the country are not there yet. so it is going to be a constant balancing act for these candidates to appease to the base and also not show that they're just only focused on one thing, impeachment. they've got to talk about the issues, too. it's going to be a challenge as this eats up all the time here in washington. >> potentially one that could backfire, because when they become more unified in their message as we lead up to the primaries, all of a sudden you start to forget why these candidates are different in the first place. if the one unified message is let's impeach donald trump, how are you different from him? a lot of voters are just chiming into this campaign in the next couple of months and they're going to want to understand the candidates for their individual policies and not just this one message. >> the one thing, also, is views

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beyond the president himself, two of his most trusted advisers now central to the

impeachment inquiry, his personal attorney rudy giuliani and the attorney general of the united states, william barr. barr, democrats allege, takes a see no evil approach. even when the inspector general raised big concerns. giuliani is central to the foundation of the impeachment case. he has admitted pushing ukraine for election dirt and admitted to pushing the state department to help him. 18 years ago, you see him on the cover of "times" person of the year, as new york city mayor after the horrible september 11th attacks. now he's on the new yorker's cover in a very different context. turn on cable tv and you will see giuliani always animated and almost always twisting the truth. >> shut up, shut up, you don't know what you're talking about. you don't know what you're talking about, idiot. joe biden can be involved in bribery and joe biden's son can

get $1.5 billion from china and you won't cover it and you want to cover some ridiculous charge that i urged the ukrainian government to investigate corruption. well, i did and i'm proud of it. >> i just want to note again, he twists the truth about hunter biden's business practices, hunter biden was involved in some business deals in china. rudy giuliani himself forgets to mention he makes a lot of money off international clients, some of them use the internet, not exactly people you might invite to dinner. let's get back to the ub stance. he's the president's star representative, if you will, on television. is he helping or hurting? >> a lot of people believe hurting, but the president seems to think that he's helping, otherwise the president probably would have severed ties with him. the question for me is how do democrats approach rudy giuliani, given his central role here in this whistle-blower complaint, and it's obviously a big interest for democrats. do they bring him up for a public hearing, which of course

could turn into an absolute circus and something that democrats may want to avoid. but they also need information from him. so they'll probably ask for information, but how hard is another question. >> does he have a compass, if you will? he was going to give a paid speech this week, he had to cancel it when it became public, in a kremlin group, putin was going to be there. rudy giuliani in the middle of all of this was going to take money from russians and be in the presence of putin and he's saying hunter biden is correct. hello? >> one of the things that i think the president and rudy giuliani see in each other is a sense of shamelessness. if they cared how all of this looked they wouldn't be where they are today and that is something that makes a lot of other republicans nervous, one of the -- we've been asking the white house for months what are you doing to prepare for possible impeachment and they've basically laughed in our faces like the democrats say they're not going to do that. and that means that now a lot of people in the republican party fear that they're being hung out to dry by a white house whose

strategy for messaging consists of having rudy giuliani go on tv and yell at people, which might be insufficient once things get more serious. and you know giuliani's position is also a very strange one. he's not a public official in any kind of nominated, confirmed or even hired by the government position. he's supposedly the president's lawyer but he's been acting pro bono which may not be legal. >> it may or may not get him a privilege. >> exactly, because when he wants to keep things quiet he says it's privileged but when he doesn't he says i'm not being a lawyer here. so there's a lot of questions about giuliani's role and the question is going to be is he someone who also gets called in and held accountable as a part of this process, or does he at some point get thrown under the bus? >> in the public opinion he confuses people, he throws out allegations that are simply not true or proven, and that works,

confusing people. and if the democrats are disciplined in an impeachment case and put him in the chair where they can counter him with documents and witnesses, that's a whole different place. >> rudy giuliani in his past life was also a skilled prosecutor and he may surprise democrats and may kind of come out swinging as well. and so i think the democrats should probably be cautious in their efforts to kind of corner him, of course like you say if it's just a matter of facts then they'll probably be okay. one issue, though, i want to touch on something molly said, rudy giuliani, the president and even people in the administration whenever giuliani, his conduct strays from the ethical norms of the administration, they say well, he's representing the president in his personal capacity, but at the end of the day, he's been acting in ways that are really concerning a lot of people within the administration, stretching national security protocols. >> and the use of taxpayer funded prag funded operations, he's not operating on his own and he's

operating with help from the government. >> we're going to talk about the democratic presidential candidates on a last-minute dash for cash this weekend. gordon ramsay? handing out samples? seems like just an ok use of your culinary talents, dude. yeah it is smart guy. almost like having a brand new iphone but not pairing it with at&t. that's true... gordon ramsay. oi, fingers, it's not a buffet! use the cocktail stick. use a cocktail stick. get the most from your amazing new iphone 11 pro on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. more for your thing. that's our thing.

one last time around the inside politics table ask our great reporters to share a little something from their notebooks. jackie? >> so front line downs have been told to focus on ukraine when talking about impeachment but keep it simple, keep these town halls that are already on the books in their districts and so far we're seeing that they are.

of the 70 plus town halls that are scheduled over this recess, only nine are republicans and only one is a republican senator. and more broadly house democrats have really embraced the town hall format which have kind of gone by the wayside since the tea party days. 98% have had town halls since they were elected and 51% of republicans. we'll see if this hold as 2020 continues, but now it seems to hold. >> what happened last week, the u.n. general assembly, in case you've forgotten. and one of the big story lines going on there before all the impeachment lines came out is whether or not president trump would meet with president rouhani. he was proposing all kinds of options including having trump approve a european credit line

to iran, having him hold off on sanctions, all the while have iran promise not to do any nuclear enrichment for five months and that way we get them to the table. these talks are ongoing and important to watch because it would be very important in the nonimpeachment kind of news. president trump seems open to the idea, although the white house saying they're never going to renege on sanctions. >> we'll give him an a plus for trying and see if he can get to the finish line. >> there's been no bipartisan legislating this congress and we've seen bipartisan things such as guns and that falling off the radar on capitol hill. but there's still the possibility of getting one bipartisan bill done this congress, that's the u.s.-mexico trade agreement, the new nafta agreement still being actively considered by house democrats. on friday there was a meeting held by the house ways and means chairman richard neal and it's

been described as a positive meeting. there was a major push among these members in the house to get something done. the speaker herself is keeping open the option of moving this intime these year and a number of democrats now open to the notion of impeaching particularly ones who come from trump districts need a bipartisan win. and the time line almost coincides with impeachment, so you can almost see a split screen here of the president being impeached by the house. so we'll see what happens. >> we live in interesting times. >> well, this week, tomorrow in fact is the third quarter fund-raising deadline which could be a real make-or-break for a lot of the 2020 candidates. this still enormous field of democrats could be winnowed by this deadline depending on whether they're able to raise enough money to stay in the race. we've had some campaigns notably

cory booker setting a seemingly low target maybe intentionally in order to seem to beat expe expectations. but some of these campaigns it's more than a barometer to show how much enthusiasm they're getting. in a real sense it's going to determine whether they could keep their campaigns alive. we could see a winnowing of the field and also have a sense i think also for the leading candidates, for a candidate like joe biden, can he keep up the fund-raising pace? are the donors still committed to him given there are some signs his campaign may be faltering in other ways. >> costs a lot of money to run for president. i'm going to close on what has been an interesting week for the mccain family. said it's possible in her view that a democrat carries arizona for president in 2020. in that same interview with politico ms. mccain also made clear her affection for joe

biden. daughter megan mccain also spoke of biden. curt volker, now a star impeachment inquiry witness because giuliani says he has text messages to back him up where giuliani sought dirt on that same family friend joe biden. look for an announcement from arizona state university where the mccain institute is headquartered as soon as tomorrow about volker's fate at that institute. up next don't go anywhere. a very busy "state of the union" with jake tapper. his guests include hakem jeffries, gym jordan and cory booker. thanks for sharing your sunday. have a great day.

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