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fortress was part of an air show featuring historic fighter planes. >> to our viewers, thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room, erin burnett starts "out front" right now. "out front" next, breaking news. trump's public meltdown, swearing, lying and pushing accusations from everyone from biden to the whistle-blower. is the impeachment pressure getting to the president? plus democrats putting the white house on notice interfere with the impeachment investigation and there will be a serious price to pay, so what price will that strategy work or backfire? bernie sanders' health scare. the 2020 democrat out for a heart procedure. what does this mean for his campaign? let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, trump loses his cool. it started with more than a dozen tweets including this, a clear loss of temper accusing democrats of all caps, bull
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expletive, and he, of course, used the actual word and he went on camera lashing out with a crude reference in front of a world leader and all americans. >> adam schiff, he's a low life. he should be forced to resign. there's an expression, he couldn't care his blank strap and i won't say it because it is so terrible to stay. he couldn't carry his blank strap. do you understand that? >> he was talking about adam schiff comparing him to mike pompeo and as trump continued to face questions he lost control of his temper. >> he should resign from office in disgrace. the whistle-blower was so dishonest. these are bad people. these are dishonest people, and when the american people find out what happened it's going to be a great day. they've been trying to impeach me from the day i got elected. you people should be ashamed of yourself. what happened in 2016 is a disgrace to this country and they're more worried about that because they know they're guilty
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as hell. and let me tell you something, biden's son is corrupt, and biden is corrupt. >> okay. and then he went on to say this. >> i watch my words very carefully. there are those that think i am a very stable genius, okay? i watch my words very, very closely. >> if he was watching his words very, very closely he would not have said this again and again and again today to sdredescribe call when he deasked a foreign leader to investigate biden. >> it was a very nice conversation. you have a perfect, i mean, perfect conversation. that was a perfect conversation. that was a perfect conversation. it was perfect! the call was perfect. it was perfect. it was perfect. a beautiful conversation. >> well, of course, it was not perfect. in the transcript which trump today bragged was word for word, which of course, it was not,
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ukraine's president said we are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically, we are almost ready to buy more javelins for the united states defense purposes. the president replied i would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it. not perfect, wrong. here are republicans mike turner and mitt romney talking about that very same call. >> this remains deeply troubling. >> i want to say to the president, this is not okay. it is -- that conversation is not okay. >> and today when confronted with what he said and exactly what he wanted ukraine's president to do, trump, the person who has no problem answering any question. >> the question is what did you want president zelensky to do with vice president biden and his son hunter. >> are you talking to me?
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>> it was a follow-up of what i dead you, sir. >> we had the president of finland ask him a question. >> i have one, i just wanted to follow up. >> did you hear me? did you hear me? ask him a question. ? i've given you a long answer. ask this gentleman a question. don't be rude. >> no, sir, i don't want to be rude, i just wanted you to have a chance to answer the question. >> i answered everything. it's a hoax and you know who is playing into the hoax? people like you and many people like you and i say in many cases the corrupt media. much of the media in this country is not just fake. it's corrupt and you have some very fine people, too. great journalists and great reporters, and to a large extent, it's corrupt and it's fake. ask the president of finland a question. >> okay. i'll move on now. mr. president, the wto ruled in favor of the united states saying that the united states can now impose tariffs on european goods because of
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illegal subsidies against airbus. >> that was a big win for the united states, right? >> you never had wins with other presidents, did you? but we're having a lot of wins at the wto. >> this was a case that started i think ten or 15 years ago. >> excuse me. >> the wins are now because they think i don't like the wto and they want to make sure i'm happy because all of those countries were ripping off the united states for many years. they know that i'm wise to it. we've had a lot of wins. this was a $7 billion win. not bad. >> but i think the question is for me. >> okay. out front now, i want to go to the reporter who was asking the president those question, jeff mason. white house correspondent for reuters and jeff, i wanted everyone to see exactly what happened there. let's just be clear with one thing first and foremost the president of the united states did not answer your question which you asked loudly and repeatedly what did you want vice president zelensky to do about vice presidented bien and his son hunter.
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he didn't answer. >> no, he didn't answer and he was certainly given opportunities to do so. erin, it's a legitimate question. he's been saying, as you've been talking about already in your program that his call with president zelensky was quote, unquote, perfect, praising himself for having released that transcript and so i thought it was good just to get a sense right now, here, after that call has happened and after all of the controversy has occurred to get a sense from him as to what he really wanted and he wanted to avoid the question. >> he certainly did, and so then he refuses to answer your question, demands that you ask one to the president of finland which you did and he jumps in anyway and doesn't let him answer it which sort of was the priceless part about the whole thing, but my question to you, jeff, does anger and frustration today that you saw in that room, did it seem strategic to you or did it seem like his anger really got the better of him? >> i'm not convinced it was strategic, erin. he's just upset and frustrated by how the impeachment inquiry
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is now going. he lashes out at journalists and he lashes out at the media in particular when he feels under pressure and when he feels frustrated. i think that's what he did today. i don't think that was strategic in that he would have had to think ahead of what the question might be or of what our exchange might be like and instead it was a show of exasperation on his part, both in the oval office which you showed earlier and in that press conference on the entire thing. he walked off the stage when there was supposed to be another question from the finnish side and that was a sign that he was just done. >> he was just done and he had it, but i want to make the point here that you asked a very simple question, and he could have answered it. he loves to answer questions, but he did not. he just point-blank did not. >> yes. and it gets to the heart of this entire controversy p. if he want tos say he was not looking for the president of ukraine to investigate joe biden then he needs to say that and he
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needs to explain that and he hasn't done that. >> jeff mason, thank you very much. doing his job and asking the questions as he should be doing on behalf of the american people. out front now, nia maleka henderson, political analyst david gregory and who represented president clinton during his impeachment hearings and john dixon. >> it's interesting when you see that exchange, right? it was a simple question. >> yeah. if the president wanted to take issue with what was in the transcript or say, you know, it was inaccurate or misleading he could have. he didn't. because it's all there. he didn't want to talk about it. >> he didn't want to talk about it and you see echoes of that in other republicans. they don't want to talk about the substance of this call, primarily the part about biden and the idea that the american president is asking a foreign lead tore meddle in a foreign election. it feels like we just went through that with the mueller report. the president didn't seem to kick off impeachment hearings after the mueller report was
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released here with this call that was revealed through this whistle-blower, clearly is under his skin and is clearly worried about it and they're probably second guessing the fact that they actually released this transcript which does perfectly capture the substance of it, right? it's not a word for word transcript and it's certainly a memo. >> the great irony is everyone, obviously it's accurate, but he says every, it's a word for word exact thing which it isn't. you would think he'd be trying to seize on that, david. there are photos today of the president during his first meeting with the leader of finland which we were talking to reporters and look, i understand these are moments and you can capture anyone in a moment, but we just saw him speaking and we saw his tone. you know, sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. >> well, it is. >> it's not worth a whole lot parsing the outrageous things he says and the crude and unpresidential things he said. the president has been doing this now for a couple of years and people will make a decision
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about that, if there is a political price to pay he may yet pay it, but this is who he is as the president of the united states. i think two things today. one, i think he's increasingly erratic because he's increasingly isolated. we know from bob woodward's reporting in the book "fear" that when the mueller report -- not the report, when mueller became the special prosecutor he had this outrage response that he couldn't believe this was happening to him and thought it was the end of his presidency and to see it rearing its head again, i think is something that has so completely thrown him and explains how isolated he feels at this juncture. the other piece of it, he knows how to do one thing which is fight and identify enemies and he will be the tip of the spear on the response and he wants to take out everyone to delegitimize this and it is the risk democrats are taking by doing this essentially in an election year. he will seize on that to try to win. >> so, glen, what do you make of his behavior today and how he handled it? >> it's disorienting. i watched the clip and was kind of amazed.
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back during the clinton impeachment, president clinton was plenty angry of being impeach and the he thought it was improper and illegitimate and he never questioned the basic legitimacy of government and never threatened to have people imprisoned and charged with treason. he never talked about civil war and he was hot and angry as we you will were. this is a completely new moment in history and it's scary to see. >> certainly, you're referring to when he talked about civil war, if he were impeached over the weekend in a tweet. let me play more of what the president said today about the entire investigation and the impeachment probe going on right now. here he is. >> call him shifty schiff. we don't call him shifty schiff for nothing. he's a shifty, dishonest guy. there's an expression, he couldn't carry his blank strap, i won't say it because they'll say it was so terrible to say. he couldn't carry his blank strap, do you understand that? >> john dean, what's your reaction?
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[ laughter ] >> i was quite amazed at the metaphor he decided to use in the oval office, but you know, trump has been doing this since the outset of his presidency and when i read some biographies on him he's been doing this his entire life, ever since his mother caught him in the cookie jar. this is his tactic and this is his response. he doesn't -- he can control it to some degree, but some degree he can't, so it's hard to say whether it's strategic and tactical or whether it's just his emotional reaction, but that's what we're seeing. we're seeing the real donald trump and the impeachment proceeding is showing him for who he is, as is often said about the presidency and it's a place where it will show both your strengths and your weaknesses, and we're seeing that there are more weaknesses in donald trump than there are strengths. >> talk about generational shift. john, the kinds of things that president trump says on television in the oval office before the cameras are the kinds
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of things that reflect a small mindedness and the erratic behavior and the isolation that nixon said to people like you on the tapes that he secretly recorded. >> exactly right. it was very controlled with iks innon, though. some aides brought out a darker side of him. other instances caused him to, you know to vent on the tapes, but he always did it behind closed doors. he had great emotional control when he was in front of the public. the rawest i ever saw him was his farewell speech and that was really the sort of his true self. he actually put his glasses on which he never did in public, but with this president, we'll see it all of the time in the rose garden. >> it seems -- it seems a bit quaint because nia, yet again today he pulls out the stable genius. >> yeah. he pulls out the stable genius. this is something we've heard from him before just as the
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revelation of all of the chaos that is going on in the white house that he's so embodied today in that press conference in his tweets and in other settings and listen, i think if you're looking at the electorate and we don't know how this will play in 2020 and we don't really know and the folks who have been concerned about donald trump, it is this chaos and it is the sort of unpresidential behavior. it's the tweeting and it's the cursing and it's the blank -- >> it's all of it. >> and the blank strap that he was talking about today. >> and stable genius is something he knows people react to. to me i wonder if that was something he wanted to put in there. maybe, maybe not, you know, who knows? but it could have been. >> i would like to know the stable genius and not being willing to say the word jock strap -- >> and he keeps going to next-level stuff. >> this is -- yeah. >> i think he clearly deep down knows he's on edge and over the edge and he's commandeering his legal defense and public
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relations campaign and all these fronts that an impeachment brewing battle -- >> he's trying to do it all himself. >> which is very different from what clinton did. clinton was about the business of the people and you saw nancy pelosi fall on that today and say this is what the house is doing. >> totally different. >> what else is out there? that's what the president is so unhinged about. who else is talking? there might be other whistle-blowers. clearly everyone is talking to the whistle-blower. >> next, we have more breaking news. president trump reportedly used vice president mike pence to dig up dirt on joe biden so what does pence know? plus he's pushing a new conspiracy theer beadam schiff and the whistle-blower report. >> i think it's a scandal that he knew before. i'd go a step further, i think he probably helped write it. >> he didn't tp and the fight for 2020, andrew yang with the surprising fund-raising call tonight. what is behind the surge?
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breaking news. president trump repeatedly involved the vice president mike pence in efforts to pressure the you. >> president of ukraine. all of this came as trump was trying to dig up dirt on his potential 2020 rival and his son. this is according to a report in "the washington post," they're saying trump told pence he couldn't attend the inauguration in may. he had pence tell the ukrainian president tell that it was held up and officials close to pence say being on, but he was unwitting. he was unaware of trump's efforts to pressure zelensky for dirt on the bidens and he was doing all these things and not perhaps knowing why. everyone is back with me now. david, could this be a problem for the vice president? >> there's no question. potentially it could, depending upon what he knew and when he knew it and in other words, we know that there was a
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generalized effort to get ukraine involved in looking at foreign interference into the 2016 campaign and only the president rudy giuliani thought it was hillary clinton conspiring with the ukrainians to dig up dirt on him. did the vice president know about that or did he know about efforts to get the ukrainians to investigate joe biden's son since the president says that he's corrupt or biden's corrupt and everyone's corrupt. so there are two points about pence and his involvement and what he knew and two, this goes to the larger question about to what extent was the president and those close to him orchestrating an effort to draw in a foreign power to interfere in our election. >> in a sense, if this is true, if pence did those things and didn't know why, it could add to the case of the president knew exactly and he didn't want pence to know because he didn't want pence to call him out on it. >> what's incredible and at the very least, pence is a significant witness in this set of facts and either way as you say, erin, the narrative is
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important and he'll presumably have to testify, and that's going to be an interesting battle and obviously, there will be privileges asserted there and it's going to get very messy if pence and the president are crosswise and this thing becomes unpredictable. >> certainly, it comes you've got the house intelligence committee chairman saying, all right, if you stonewall here and if you don't put everything out there when we ask for it, we are going to take action and we'll consider that obstruction with trump coming out and saying we'll consider it obstruction, interference. so what happens here? especially when you now bring pence into it, you're set for a battle. ? you're set for a battle. we don't know what other information is going to come out in the next couple of days. this has been a story that, you know, bombshell after bombshell after just a short period of time, so there's likely more information to come and you have the president trying to battle
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the whistle-blower, discredit the whistle-blower, discredit adam schiff, but there will be more witnesses and more testimony. we'll hear from volker, for instance, at some point and he's going to be deposed before a special envoy. we'll also hear from the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, as well, in a couple of days and so there's more to come. so they have this strategy and you talk about him wanting to fight and we don't know how long this will hold back folks on the house. we have the power to subpoena, find people and throw them in jail. >> john dean, what do you make of the fact with the reporting that we have that mike pence would have been the emmisary, the messenger and not known why he was being directed to do those things. what would be the significance, do you think? >> well, it could be a widening conspiracy where more people are privy to it and that's something they have to find out. however, i think that the impeachment proceeding has to stay very focused.
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as you know, one of the defenses that they're charging and this is a coup and it starts to look more like a coup if you start impeaching the president and the vice president because the next in succession is the speaker of the house and that would almost give credibility. so i think they have to keep a very narrow focus, forget the attorney general, forget the secretary of state. get all the facts and proceed one by one as necessary and start with the president. >> which is an important point there that you just make. here's the thing, when you get to a call and it's the original call at the heart of all of this now and you heard mitt romney and say it's not okay, and it's not acceptable and there are others who said it and ben sasse, john thune and others and overall, new monmouth poll found four in ten republicans actually think trump mentioned biden in the call. six out of ten think he didn't because he said the call was perfect. of course, he did, it's in the
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transcript. we know he did by name three times, but here's the thing. it's not just that he's pulling the wool over americans' eyes and here is the house minority leader kevin mckarthy acarthy a went on "60 minutes" and had not read the transcript. >> what do you make of this exchange? presidentel zen ski says we a areal all ready to buy more javelins for the defense purposes and president trump replies i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> you just added another word. >> no. >> he said i'd like you to do me a favor, though? >> yes. it's in the transcript. >> i mean, it's a stunning moment. >> well, that's poor preparation on the part of kevin mccarthy. do you think in part it explains the president's erratic behavior because he believes that only he can take charge of defending himself on this even his allies can't do a good enough job of it
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and the larger point, though, is still whatever the perception is, one of the reasons why i believe the white house put the summary of the call out is they won a debate and it may have been bad and is it an impeachable offense and those were words and not actions on the call and that would be the debate and we know where republicans are lining up right now. >> is there a chance that someone like a kevin mccarthy, they start to get angry and i'm not going there and i'm just saying that there's a -- wait a minute, you said everything was good here and i just looked really stupid. >> yes, maybe, but they're used to this, right? they've used to dealing with a president who says one thing one day and changes his mind and the next they're used of sort of going out on a limb for this president and him kind of gently sawing off the limb. so i don't see them necessarily turning on him, certainly not somebody as powerful and high up in leadership as kevin mccarthy. >> thank you all very much. i appreciate it. >> next congress briefed on what was described on an urgent matter from the inspect or
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breaking news. president trump claiming without providing evidence that house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff helped write the whistle-blower's complaint. here's the president. >> i think it's a scandal that he knew before. i'd go a step further. i think he probably helped write it, okay? that's what the word is, and i think is -- i give a lot of respect for "the new york times" for putting it out. >> okay.
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important to note that's not what "the new york times" put out. one of the reporters tweeting in response tweeting about it, despite what trump claimed the times did not put out, and schiff did not know the whistle-blower's identity. jackie spear a member of the house intelligence committee and oversight committee and i appreciate your time, congresswoman. thank you for being with me. chairman schiff, you see "the new york times" report that we have. he did not know who the whistle-blower was, and he did not help write the report, but he did know the outline of some of the allegations a few days in advance according to "the new york times." how much did you know about the whistle-blower's accusations before you got the complaint? >> i didn't know anything about the complaint until i was sitting in the secure facility reading it for the first time with all of the members of the intelligence committee including the republican members, and i might also point out that both the director of national
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intelligence maguire and inspector general atkinson of the intelligence community both said that the whistle-blower followed the law to the letter. so for the president to suggest that there was anything untoward is really once again one of the many faults of the president in terms of putting out false information. >> so i want to ask you today about something we're all trying to understand. your committee staffers were briefed on an urgent matter, we understand, that's the word that was used, urgent matter from the state department inspector general and a democratic aide said it was a very strange meeting and it was basically handing over a pile of paper. do you know what's in those papers yet? anything that -- that your -- your staff got from this inspector general? >> no, my staff hasn't received anything, and i know as much as you know. i do know my colleague jamie raskin was there to receive the information. he said there was nothing that
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was secret or classified and that was why he was in a position to talk about it, and it was, i think, a lot of information that had been sitting around at the inspector general's office that now everything is subject to a heightened scrutiny, and so on the idea of wanting to be extremely cautious, he brought it over. i guess i'll know more tomorrow when i return to washington. >> yes. we're just understanding, rudy giuliani is telling cnn, literally, i'm giving you this news as i'm getting it, congresswoman that he provided the state department with some of the information that the inspector general gave to lawmakers wednesday. so what do you make of that that perhaps something from the president's personal lawyer in there? >> so it's probably, you know, part of their campaign of misinformation that they are dredging up around the world and trying to get foreign leaders to comply with or support, and it's a very sad day for our country
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when we have the president of the united states asking leaders around the world to try and come up with dirt or discredit something that's gone on here in the united states whether it was the mueller report or the determination made by all of the intelligence community that russia had interfered with our elections. he is still trying to promote a false narrative, and he's doing it on our time. he should be running the country, not trying to create this narrative that has truly been debunked over and over again. it gives ader hav adeversaries here are some of the things he threw out here today. >> we don't call him shifty schiff for nothing.
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he's a shifty, dishonest guy. he should resign from office in disgrace, and frankly, they should look at him for treason because he is making up the words of the president of the united states. you know, there's an expression, he couldn't carry his blank strap, and i won't say it because they'll say it was so terrible to say, but the guy couldn't carry his blank strap do you understand that? >> what do you think of the president's tone? >> it is dishonorable and he's lowering himself to a level unbecoming a president not to mention the fact that he is making false statements using words that can only be used when we're talking about people being at war and someone working on behalf of another country. all of which is not the case. i think what he sees is he's threatened by the brain of adam schiff, the way that he moves
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the committee and operates the committee, and i think that has got him very concerned. what we saw today in that press conference is a decompensating president and we should all be very concerned about that. >> all right. thank you very much, i appreciate your time, congresswoman spear. >> thank you, erin. >> bernie sanders off the trail after undergoing a heart procedure. we'll have the latest on the senator's health and campaign tonight. plus what president trump had to say about reports that he wanted this around his wall. >> and the moat i wanted alligators and snakes. ys dealing with device setups, app updates, and support calls... you can never seem to get anywhere. that's why dell technologies created unified workspace, powered by vmware. ♪ a revolutionary solution that lets you deploy, manage, support and secure all your devices from the cloud.
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tonight, bernie sanders is speaking outside for the first time since being hospitalized for a heart procedure, two cents in his arteries. sanders tweeting i'm feeling good. i'm fortunate to have great health care and doctors and nurses helping me to recover. the senator taking an indefinite break from the campaign trail to recover. out front now our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta on assignment and national political correspondent. sanjay, let me start with you. he had two cents inserted to treat a blocked artery and this happened rather abruptly, and it was clearly not planned at all. it was abrupt. he's 78 years old. tell us how serious this kind of procedure is.
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>> well, you know, certainly this is a serious procedure, you wouldn't want to minimize this, but it's a commonly done procedure, as well,i erin, overa million of these stents in the united states alone and we'll show you exactly what happened here. first of all, if you're watching this, this is a stent that goes into the bloos blood vessels and it opens it up and this isn't open-heart surgery and sometimes people confuse the terp xs & this is a procedure doesn't require the actual operation to ballooning open and leaving a cage in there to sort of hold that open. a commonly done procedure. typically, recovery could be within a few days and one of the questions we don't know the answer to, erin, is did he have part of his heart muscle tissue, did it die as a result of not
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having blood flow, and a result of a heart attack. you're talking about day, not weeks. >> this is a guy who obviously, sanjay, who did five events in a day. he was the energizer bunny, you know, if we're in the thing of just a few days, does that mean he's able to quickly return to that sort of a pace or no? these are things that -- that for many people, do impact the intensity with which they, you know, continue their activities. >> what i would say, erin is the reason these procedures are done really is to restore blood flow to the heart. that's obvious, right? but the importance is that someone doesn't feel well. they're having pain and bounce you restore the blood flow to the heart, that pain is either gone or completely gone. from that standpoint, he should
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recover and from the procedure, as well, if his heart muscle wasn't beating from the past. he should been on ballooned thinners ask the something he has to be more mindful are, and i believe it was supposed to launch tomorrow. and they put that on hold. >> they recognized this story would be the story for a couple of days and they want to have a clear path when they do go up on the air, but talking to the campaign today, erin, i was struck about how tight-lipped they were about this. that the staffers and supporters both of the senator were very uneasy about saying much about his condition, even answering some of the most basic questions is he still in the hospital or not? they're sensitive, obviously about this pause of a perception of a candidate who is 78 years
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old. and he's a very hearty fig out campaign trail. what's strucking that four years after his last campaign, four years older, and when people talk about age then, vigors is word you would use. >> we do have video of the event before he went to the hospital. >> last night. >> he did ask for a chair to sit in. >> correct. >> he clearly was not felling well. >> right. >> as you say, that is not what -- that is not bernie sanders right there and the flushed look on his face, you can tell he's not doing that well, and so the question now is how fast can he get back on the campaign trail and what does this do to not his hard core bernie folks are not going anywhere. they are loyal. they're in this for a cause. the question i have is the
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person in iowa who was on the fence, what does this do to him now. >> i hope that he's out soon, absolutely. thank you very much. andrew yang with a major fund-raising call. so what's he going do with it? he is out front next and it was trump's claim today. >> i watch my words very carefully. >> if only that applied to twitter. jeanne will explain exactly what we mean by that. erica's most lo. hot and fresh, and right to your door. every day, get two medium, one-topping pizzas for just $6.99 each. hello to america's most loved pizza. hello marco's.
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percent, more than anybody else. why now? >> our message is hitting home. americans realize we need to think bigger about solutions. we're in the greatest economic transformation in our country's history. it's not immigrants that are causing these problems. it's automation and advanced technologies. if we distribute gains from these technologies and innovations into our hands, then we can improve our way of life quickly. >> you are looking at $10 million. it's a lot of money. the context is what you are up against. i'm not talking in terms of your own party. i'm talking about trump and the rnc. they say they raised $125 million in the same quarter. that's a huge number. the president has passionate donors. are you worried about the strength that this shows for him? even in the midst of what he is going through in washington. $125 million. >> i think right now you have a fragmented democratic field. when we come together behind a
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nominee, that nominee is going to have ample resources to take on and defeat donald trump in the general election. even now, i'm one of two candidates in the democratic field that 10% or more of donald trump voters said they would support in the general, which i think makes me the strongest candidate to take him on next fall. >> trump today tweeted -- just in part -- the word bull expletive. he put it in all caps in the middle of a tweet talking about democrats. your rival, kamala harris, wrote a letter to twitter's ceo. she pointed to six other tweets. she says they violate twitter's rules of conduct. he uses his account to target, harass and out the whistle-blower, suggest iing violence could be incited. is senator harris right, that president trump should be silenced? >> i think that there was a
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stronger case for him not being able to use some of these platforms before he was the president of the united states. now that he is in office, it's harder to say, look, he shouldn't have access to something like twitter. i'm friendly with some of the technology leaders. they say at this point, they want to work with the government to find appropriate standards. they feel like it's tough for hem to be in position where they are making these decisions, including regarding donald trump's twitter account. >> do you believe fundamentally he has the -- he has the right of free speech and he is the president of the united states? he should be allowed to do, however he is going to use it, in a sense the rules -- some of the codes of conduct may not apply? >> i think it's a much harder case to make when you are talking about a political office holder, in case the president of the united states, that you are going to be able to kick him off one of these platforms. at this point, he is major,
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major public figure in saying he is not allowed to use a particular service is very difficult. >> let me ask you, i'm sure you saw this earlier, the editorial board at usa today came out against your freedom dividend plan. they conclude, their final sentence was andrew young's freedom dividend is one of those too good to be true proposals that are hard to take seriously. they go through your plan. they say that you would give, for example, a young affluent couple $24,000 a year, $12,000 each, while a single mother of three would get $12,000. what do you say to them? >> what i say is that the freedom dividend is intended to be a floor for all americans. we can't stop there. if you have a single mother of three, there are programs designed to help make it better for her and more fair for her. those programs continue to evolve. that's where we should be investing. the freedom dividend isn't meant to solve every problem for everyone. would make us stronger,
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healthier, mentally healthier and give millions of americans a leg up and a path forward in an evolving economy. >> before we go, i want to ask about bernie sanders, your rival for the nomination. the senator is obviously had a heart procedure for stents to be inse inserted. he says he is taking time off to recover. what's your message to him? >> bernie, you are a national hero, a role model and inspiration for so many of us. you need to get well. the country will still be here waiting for you when get back on the trail. i'm sure that will be soon. >> thank you very much, andrew yang. i appreciate your time. >> see you in ohio. thank you. next, trump tries to deny a report he wanted snakes and gators in a most around his wall. if only that's what his tweet said. tor's best battery can match the power of energizer. because energizer ultimate lithium is the longest lasting aa battery in the world. [confetti cannon popping]
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mosts and president trump, it's a moot point. here is jeanne moos. >> on the same day president trump said -- >> i want my words very, very closely. >> he tweeted moot when he meant moat. >> moot, moat. >> maybe the whole idea of a gator-filled border moat is moot since the president is denying he suggested it. >> never said it. never thought of it. it was a total lie. >> it was "the new york times" that reported the president brought it up in a meeting. a water-filled trench stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. i would estimate it costs an arm and a leg in mockery. >> did dr. evil come up with that. >> have sharks with laser beams. >> there were sketches of a border moat and memes. get back in the moat and silly
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gator gifts. people have been floating the idea for years. as a joke. president obama jabbed republicans. >> maybe they will need a moat. maybe they will want alligators. >> did what the onion satirized ten years ago actually make it to the white house? >> should america build a moat? >> it's a fact that mexicans are not buoyant. they sink like rocks. >> we should look into -- >> some sort of monster. >> forget snakes on a plane. >> i have had it with these [ bleep ] snakes. >> we have to get these mother [ bleep ] snakes into the moat. what do we want? a snake and alligator filled moat. who is going to pay for it? it's not potato potato. tomato tomato. >> when it comes to gators and
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snakes in a mmoat. >> let's call the whole thing off. >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks to all of you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening from washington. whatever you may think of president trump, the ukraine affair or the investigation that house democrats are conducting, their investigation appears to be getting under his skin and it is showing. you can see it in photos today. the anger and frustration, the terror or fear, whatever you want to call it. lots of things are written across his face. could see it many tweet in twee. one referring to adam schiff as a low life. another calling the allegations against him bs. his anger was on full display during a press conference this afternoon that was even when judged against past appearances unlike any we have seen before. this was all with the president of finland standing or earlier sitting next
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