snakes in a mmoat. >> let's call the whole thing off. >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks to all of you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening from washington. whatever you may think of president trump, the ukraine affair or the investigation that house democrats are conducting, their investigation appears to be getting under his skin and it is showing. you can see it in photos today. the anger and frustration, the terror or fear, whatever you want to call it. lots of things are written across his face. could see it many tweet in twee. one referring to adam schiff as a low life. another calling the allegations against him bs. his anger was on full display during a press conference this afternoon that was even when judged against past appearances unlike any we have seen before. this was all with the president of finland standing or earlier sitting next to him. first as he read brief prepared

remarks and during a q & a session that turning more confrontational than usual. when the president was not attacking, he was evading questions about his july 25th phone call with ukraine's president. >> can you make clear right here what do you or what did you want him to do with regard to joe and hunter biden? >> the president did not answer that question. instead, spending the next two minutes and 22 seconds airing grievances about the country getting ripped off on trade, corruption in ukraine, about europe not paying its fair share. everything but actually answering that important question, which jeff mason tried to ask again. >> what about mr. biden? >> what did you want about biden? >> look, biden and his son are sto stone-cold crooked. you know it.

his son walks out with millions of dollars. the kid knows nothing. you know it and so do we. >> the question was what did you want the president to do about vice-president biden and his son hunter? >> are you talking to me? >> yeah. it was a follow-up of what i asked you. >> are you ready? we have the president of finland. ask him a question. >> i have one for him. i wanted to follow up on the one i asked you. >> did you hear me? ask him a question. >> i will. >> i have given you a long answer. ask this gentleman a question. don't be rude. >> i don't want to be rude. i wanted you to answer the question i asked you. >> i answered everything. >> except he didn't answer everything. he didn't answer the one question that actually was asked of him. on top of the evasion, the anger and falsehoods that are normal but totally abnormal or should be, there was something else that was hard to fathom. the president's characterization of the transcript not as a liability but instead as some trap he sprung on his

adversaries. >> i thought that i would finish off the first term without the threat of people making false claims. but this one turned out to be incredible. all because they didn't know that i had a transcript done by very, very talented people. word for word, done by people that do it for a living. we had an exact transcript. >> okay. do i need to say this? don't you know what i'm about to say? it's not word for word, not word for word or as the document itself warns on the first page, quote, caution, a memorandum of a telephone conversation. it's not a verbatim transcriptitranscript of a discussion. it's hard to see how it helps the president. strange to think he believes it does or at least says he does publically. he repeatedly says it's perfect,

the conversation is perfect, clearly, it is a marketing idea that if he can repeat it enough, you will just start to believe that it is a perfect conversation. perfectly normal. perfectly presidential. perfectly appropriate. it is none of those things. there's that and there's new reporting on vice-president pence and growing tension within his circle. jim acosta joins us with that. what is the latest you are learning about the white house and ukraine? >> anderson, it does seem though at this point as we're all talking about what happened between the president and the president of ukraine, with respect to the july 25th call, that story is starting to draw in the vice-president mike pence, he is getting tangled up in this. we have reporting tonight along with pamela brown, the vice-president met with the president of ukraine last month. it was during that conversation the vice-president passed along the administration's concerns about corruption. we're told he did not bring up

vice-president joe biden during that conversation. but after he had that meeting with the president, he came back to washington, talked to the president. it was after that conversation that the aide was released. we're told by multiple administration officials, ander son, that vice-president pence did help persuade the president to release that military aide that the president wanted in ukraine. so he has been drawn into this to some extent. although, aides close to the vice-president will say he has been a part of this effort to malign joe biden and hunter biden. the other thing about this is this is causing anxiety inside pence's world. we're told by sources familiar with the matter the vice-president is on the road for some time often over the next several weeks in an effort by some of the vice-president's team members to keep him out of the mix, keep him away from this scandal, keep him away from the ukraine story. i'm told by a source familiar with the matter that when the vice-president handles his calls

with foreign leaders, quote, everything is buttoned up and everything is, quote, squeaky clean. not only are the vice-president's people trying to keep him away from this unfolding scandal, they are also trying to draw a distinction between the way he handles his phone calls and the way the president does. >> the president said in the sit-down with finland's president and at the press conference, we saw that exchange where he wouldn't answer the question and then finally when the reporter kept pressing, the president tried to pivot and say, you are being rude to the president of finland. it's remarkable that that was his excuse for not answering the question. given the fact that he spent the entire president gaggle when he was sitting with the president of finland in the oval office railing about everything ukraine related and the democrats related and the poor president of finland looked like he would rather be anywhere else but sitting there. >> absolutely.

i think what you saw unfolding in the oval office and during that press conference in the east room of the white house with the president of finland is as close as i have ever seen donald trump looking like he is painted himself into a corner, he is backed into a corner. i was firing in all directions, and he did not answer the question about what he wanted out of that phone call with the president of ukraine with respect to joe biden. there were a couple of us in the press in addition to jeff mason as you saw who were trying to press the president, answer the question, answer the question. he just has not answered that question essential question, what did the president mean when he said, would you do us a favor though in response to talking about military air. wh it's like that guy in the naked gun saying, nothing to see here, please disperse. the fire is going off in the

background but people around the president are trying to make the case that nothing is going wrong here. it's a bit alice in wonderland, the way they are trying to describe the president as staying ahead of this when it's clear he is backed into a corner tonight. >> jim acosta, thanks. chris murphy sits on the senate foreign relations committee, met with ukraine's president shortly before the transcript of the phone conversation with president trump came out. he joins us. thanks for being with us. i want to ask you about jim acosta's reporting. i'm wondering what your assessment of the vice-president's involvement is here. i believe he met with the president of ukraine. he has tried to stay out of the fray. do you -- do you have any sense of what his involvement may be? >> well, if your reporting is correct, it's extraordinary the vice-president has chosen to skip town over the course of the next few weeks to stay out of

this story. i think it may also be a little bit of reconstruction of history to suggest the vice-president is the one that persuaded the president to release the aid. the president released the aid right after the whistle-blower complaint was lodged. shortly before the appropriations committee was going to require that the next year's aid be spent. remember, everyone in trump's orbit knew what was going on dating back to may. in may, rudy giuliani was openly bragging about going to ukraine to try to convince that government to interfere in the 2020 election. vice-president pence as well as everyone else had the opportunity in may to put a stop to this and come out publically and expose it. none of them did it. i understand that pence and others are going to try to put the best spin ton. all are implicated in the scandal. it has been ongoing for months.

>> when the president refused to answer the question and told to ask something to the president of finland, it's interesting that the president did not want to answer the question which was, what were you trying to get out of the president of ukraine, what did you want them to do about the bidens in terms of investigation? i'm wondering if the president didn't want to answer that because he doesn't want to have on camera himself saying essentially what he said in the transcript, which is, you know, i wanted the president of ukraine to investigate the bidens, to investigate joe biden, find out information about what i believe is corruption and about the server -- the story about the server being in ukraine and the ukrainians behind the hacking of the dnc. i'm wondering -- obviously, you don't know this. it's curious to me that he

didn't want to say specifically what he wanted. >> there's no way for the president to offer an adequate explanation for what he did. he had two asks of the president in that phone call. one was to help him destroy hillary clinton. the second was to help him destroy vice-president biden. you cannot do that as the president of the united states. you cannot use the massive power entrusted to you to destroy your political opponent. the effort was broader than just that phone call. in fact, for months the state department itself and the president's personal lawyer were involved in this effort as well. the president is not going to be able to offer a adequate explanation for the corruption that he engaged in in that phone call or that the rest of his team has been engaged in for months. >> initially, the defernders wee saying the whistle doesn't have direct knowledge, it's hearsay.

everything is proven within days. the white house releases the transcript. it's what the whistle-blower said. everything basically the whistle-blower said has turned out to be accurate. the argument is there was no quid pro quo in the conversation and it was a normal conversation to have between world leaders. just because there is no you give me this i will give you that, the sword hanging over the president of the ukraine is the need for military aid for an active conflict against russia. i'm wondering, do you believe there's any validity to the argument there was no quid pro quo because it wasn't in the conversation? also, the argument, the other argument is the president of the ukraine has said, i wasn't under pressure. i don't put much stock in that

given he may have to continue to have a relationship with president trump moving forward. >> of course. you listen to him at the u.n. and you read the transcript of his remarks. you can see him bending over backwards to get along with this president. why? because ukraine is totally dependent right now on the united states for their security. without the united states, they would have to be back under the thumb of the russians. there is an implicit threat, there's an implicit quid pro quo in every demand the united states makes of ukraine. the president doesn't need to say it out loud. there are consequences if you don't do what the united states wants. if you read into that transcript, it does actually seem as if there's a quid pro quo in the way that trump is talking. he says, we do a lot for ukraine. we don't get a lot in return. i have these two asks of you. help me destroy hillary clinton. help me destroy vice-president biden.

if you ahave zero leverage, of course, you are going to do what the president wants. you are going to come to the conclusion that the president is going to hold you accountable. of course, we know that the president did suspend the aid. whether or not there was an explicit quid pro quo, people in ukraine could come to the conclusion that you didn't do what the president wanted and you paid a consequence. >> lastly, you continue to be focused on getting gun safety legislation passed. the president has indicated impeachment will be a big hurdle, of course, he also, even before the impeachment, clearly had backed off the talk he had immediately after the latest mass killings, which echoed what he had said in previous mass killings, that he would be looking toward significant legislation. all that seems pretty much to be gone from the president's vocabulary. now he is blaming the impeachment saying they wonder

why they don't get gun legislation done. then they wonder why they don't get drug prices lowered because all they do is talk nonsense, end quote. do you worry legislative action on guns is as far as the white house is concerned off the table? >> well, if we don't get a background check deal done, it's only because the president decided to walk away from the table. i'm wearing my anti-gun violence t-shirt today. we had nine democratic presidential candidates here in las vegas talking about their bold plans for action. on the day that i announced my support for an impeachment inquiry, the white house reached out to me and said, we still want to stay at the table. we will see if that's true. i have been very open that i believe that congress needs to pursue impeachment at the same time as we pursue a legislative agenda. will be sitting at the table waiting for the president to engage on a background checks measure. i will not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

i want universal background checks but i will settle for something less. it has been two weeks since the last time we had substantive engagement from the white house on background checks. i will be waiting for as long as it takes to get this done. we can't let a chance to save lives be stalled by impeachment. >> senator murphy, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thanks. breaking news involving the highest profile member of the president's team. his tv lawyer rudy giuliani and -- i guess we should call him his go-to guy regarding this latest thing. what we are learning about his role in the still puzzling affair that sent the inspector general to capitol hill to brief congress this afternoon. a lot of questions about why that even happened. more breaking news. new reporting on the pressure being put on other foreign governments to discredit the russia investigation as well as reaction to it from james clapper, former director of national intelligence.

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breaking news in the ukraine investigation. the growing president on the vice-president as well as his standing within the administration, the president's airing of grievances even as he shared the moment with the president of finland. yet another item, this one involves the president's tv lawyer rudy giuliani. it might clear up the mystery of what was a bizarre and chaotic scene after that so-called urgent state department inspector general briefing today. michael warren joins us more with more. i'm not sure i fully understand what happened today. can you lay out what we know happened? >> that's right, anderson. the state department inspector general made a very abrupt announcement they would be briefing lawmakers today. they did that. in that briefing, the ig

provided a large amount of documents that included in that a number of allegations, sort of outline of allegations against joe biden regarding ukraine, also allegations against the now former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. a lot of lawmakers and staff on capitol hill were wondering exactly what this had to do with anything. cnn is reporting rudy giuliani spoke with me a few minute ago confirming that some of the information in that -- in what the ig presented originated with him. >> rudy giuliani -- do we know how -- he handed it to somebody in the secretary of state's office? do we know? >> what giuliani told me is that he somehow routed this information -- this is at the end of march, earlier this year. he says he routed that to secretary of state mike pompeo. it's unclear exactly what that means. he did say that he received a

call a couple of days later from pompeo who said that he had gotten these documents and that he would refer it for investigation. giuliani telling me he was frustrated he never heard anything back from the state department thereafter. >> the three chairs, schiff, engel and cummings released a statement on the briefing which is when these documents were handed over by the inspector general to them in congress. i want to read you a paragraph. the inspector general stated his office interviewed secretary pompeo's counselor who informed the inspector general that secretary pompeo told him the packet came over and that he presumed it was from the white house, end quote. does that match with your reporting? what does that mean? >> it's an open question. giuliani not being forthright about how he got these documents

he says to the state department. you have to remember, rudy giuliani is in the inner circle of the president. we have seen from the whistle-blower report that this seemed to annoy a lot of the national security team around the president, that giuliani had such access. it isn't determined exactly if that came from the white house. that suggestion from those chairmen suggested it very well may have. the white house may have been the conduit for rudy giuliani to get those documents to the state department. >> just so i'm clear, the documents that were all handed over, was there more of a briefing or was it just handing over these documents? are they all just things alleging stuff about the bidens and ukraine and the whole conspiracies that giuliani has been pushing? >> this is interesting. some of the documents giuliani says he was unfamiliar with.

included in that paperwork are a number of e-mails from state department officials, essentially taking those allegations that giuliani has been propagating through conservative media and other media for the past several months and saying, it's bad information. it really does seem to me that the state department is trying to make an effort here, the ig to say the state department had this information and really urged each other to say, it's not true. >> okay. michael, appreciate it. a lot to talk about tonight. it's confusing. joining us, obama white house communication director, general sake, gloria borger and carrie cordaro and elliott williams. we were here last night trying to figure out what this could be. it seems to be nothing of any of the things we possibly thought about. >> we theorized. >> it sounds like someone emptied out their desk drawer about all this. what do you make of this in.

>> it sounds like an opposition research book you see in a political campaign. but about ambassadors serving the united states and a political opponent of the president. there are propaganda packets put together all the time. i'm sure there were those in ukraine and in russia and other places. this is unique. these are exactly the components and the items that were being pitched in that phone call that we have seen the notes of the transcript from in what giuliani has been pushing. we also know there has been a mud slinging campaign as well. what we don't know right now is the origin, as was noted in the reporting. did it come from the white house? did giuliani write it? was it in trump tower? was it somewhere else? that's the most interesting piece of information and will tell us more. >> the other question is, this came -- the ig made the call

over to congress to inform them that he had this stuff that he wanted to bring over shortly after pompeo made the announcement about saying about the democrats are bullies. >> right. we assumed as a result that maybe it was related to that letter, that perhaps it was evidence of what pompeo was accusing, perhaps it was people in the state department who were saying, i want to testify or i'm not being treated fairly. there's investigations under the same ig about political firings. we made all of those assumpti assumptions. my best guess is that he wanted to unload this information and didn't want to have it in his desk, the ig. >> not pompeo. does this say something about the relationship between pompeo and giuliani? >> yeah. direct to direct. apparently, pompeo called giuliani and let him know, we're looking into this. the question that i have is, pompeo may have passed it along

to the counsel. did the counsel sit on it? nobody was really taking it seriously. apparently, according to the committee chairmen, some was wrapped in trump hotel folders, came in trump hotel folders. maybe they didn't take it seriously until all the story started breaking. suddenly, maybe that was then passed on to the inspector general and the inspector general said, eek. i have to do something. >> the e-mails are very interesting. there's been this accusation that state department officials were pushing this leaders in ukraine and other places to find this information. >> giuliani said he was basically working on the behest of the state department. >> exactly. that's never sounded right. i will be interested to see these e-mails. >> it's the counter narrative. >> this is not classified. >> none of it. rudy giuliani talks about it every night on fox news. >> is this normal? i don't -- i still don't

understand why this was such an urgent thing in such a strange, cryptic way that it raised alarm bells on capitol hill. >> it's a mystery right now why the inspector general from the state department urgently went up to congress to provide this information. normally, an inspector general would vet information, would say they had conducted some kind of investigation, would have made some kind of assessment, like we have seen with the dni whistle-blower case, that the information was credible. normally inspector generals don't just dump garbage on congress. i think there's more to learn about the motivations from that. what i will say, often in the last couple years, we hear a lot about whether or not the institutions are holding up under this intense political pressure from the president who wants to use the instruments of the executive branch for his personal benefit. i think it's another example potentially of the institutions not holding up quite so well.

if we have rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer and sort of everything guy providing information to the state department and state department the secretary of state, the inspector general, the general counsel all spending time on this if it's frivolous information, that shows that the institution of the state department is being manipulated for political purposes. >> it's clear also that the secretary of state is not an institutionalist and not aligned with the personnel of the state department in terms of protecting them. he said he is trying to protect them from bullies in congress. he has not been protecting the u.s. am bbassador to ukraine. i think ghouliuliani was on lou dobbs on tonight. he said, quote, they are going after both of his attorneys, the president's attorneys, they are going after barr, his government attorney and me, who is his

private attorney. barr is not the president's attorney. he is not supposed to be. >> the problem is as much with how the president regards the role of attorney general and who all these people are who happen to have law degrees but are serving the president. barr is not the president's attorney. i think that's a big misunderstanding as to how the role works, how the role ought to work. we talked about this last night. what exactly is rudy giuliani's job? getting along with what carrie said, maybe this information he presented is frivolous. it might be. congress still has a duty to look at what he has presented. you can't take him seriously anymore because they brought so much nonsense up to begin with. >> the thing at the press conference today where the president would go into this long answer to not -- which was a non-answer to the question he was asked about what he was trying to get from the president of the ukraine about biden. what did he want the president to do? to me it's fascinating that's

the question he would not answer because if he speaks the words that he said it even in the transcript as not word for word as they were, it will not sound good coming out of the president's mouth, i want you to do me a favor, find me dirt on biden, find me information about biden. >> i don't know that he could answer the question, because it's so convoluted and crazy that all he wants to do is say -- you know how the president shorthands everything. joe biden is a crook. he is a stone-cold crook i think is what he said. that's all he wants -- >> corrupt. >> and hunter biden, too. that's all he wants to say. that's all he could say in the phone conversation to the ukrainian president. there's this bad stuff. there's this -- >> the old people are talking about it. you know about it. i'm hearing stuff. >> crowd strike and all -- >> on top of that, that's their legal strategy.

their legal strategy is calling people names and saying they are corrupt. to win something like this or to at least succeed in the public eye, they have to have a legal and communications strategy. all they do is -- >> we all have this notes from the transcript. he almost forgot what it said. which is very different from the mueller report and other -- >> but i mean, i think we're discounting the skill of the president as a marketer. it looks like he doesn't have a communication strategy. he is hammering away the words perfect conversation, corrupt relating to the bidens, hoax. he is speaking almost in those buzz words to inject them. >> the thing is, that can't respond to a subpoena. at the end of the day, there are actually legally operative thins that -- things is going to come -- >> not responding is something they do well.

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in addition to the breaking news tonight on vice-president pence and the ukraine investigation as well as state department documented handed over to congress today, there's this on president trump. banking on new potential allies in his effort to discredit the russia investigation. it's a report you will only see on 360. katelyn collins has the latest. what have you learned? >> we are learning not only did president trump reach out to the australian prime minister about working with the attorney general to investigate the beginnings of the russia investigation, he also placed a call to the british prime minister boris johnson hoping he could do the same. basically, when these two world leaders got into office, president trump didn't just see it as a diplomatic opening, he saw it as a political one. he can achieve this goal of discrediting the russia investigation. >> what did the president tell his advisors about the conversations, about the leaders, do you know? >> he was giddy about it. he didn't just think politically they were more in line with him.

he thought they would be more cooperative with looking into the beginnings of the investigation. a lot had less to do with them and more do with their predecessors. because those two leaders, president trump had been deeply suspicious of based on our sources, because he blamed them in part for the beginning of the russia investigation and the role their countries played in it. >> senator graham sent letters to the prime ministers of australia, italy and the uk. >> urging these leaders to continue working with bill barr on this investigation into the beginnings of the russia probe, which is interesting. of course, they did have small parts in the beginning of this, like where george papadopoulos was meeting certain officials that they met with, that's really been something that has metastasized in the president's mind. there's no evidence they were part of this political conspiracy to undermine the president's campaign. he thinks this is a way to get vindication. we have seen this is something the attorney general is fine

with pursuing. >> thanks very much. joining us, former director of national intelligence, james clapper. he is the aunler you are dna di during the start the investigation. when you hear the president is talking to boris johnson and others, does it make sense? >> it doesn't. it shows the lengths to which this administration will go to discredit the entire russia meddling, i guess. i recall early on in the -- in this presidency when president trump alleged that the obama administration was surveiling trump tower, ridiculous. president obama had asked the brits to monitor him. this ch wa which was ridiculous. it prompted a rare statement by the british equivalent of our

nsa to completely rebut the president's allegation. i don't know what the expectation here is. this reporting was done in good faith by foreign service officers or law enforcement or intelligence officials who thought we should know about these activities. do they expect now that because there are political leaders who he thinks are more in tune with him that somehow they are going to say, april fool, we were just kidding before, three plus years ago? i don't see the point of it. one other bad affect, of course, is that i worry that particularly the intelligence services of these close allies who have freely shared information with him in the past will think twice before they do that when it appears as though they are going to be investigated. >> the very fact that the attorney general of the united

states, who rudy giuliani tonight on fox referred to as the president's government attorney and rudy, he is the president's person attorney -- >> interchangeable. >> they are part of the same team, essentially. some supporters say, there's no problem with them investigating. if the investigation finds nothing, it finds nothing. in terms of the time that the -- it seems like the head of the justice department barr is dedicating to this, does it infringe on other work that normally ahenor normally a head of the justice department would do? during the impeachment procedure for clinton, they are clear lines about who anybody who was focused on the impeachment, that's what they did. nobody else could talk about it. clinton could only focus on it when he was meeting with those people. watching the president meet with the president of finland, you had the sense that there's not a

lot of other work entering the president's head. it's all this all the time. >> that's kind of -- you step back from the day to day madness of what we see read and hear about, you wonder what's being neglected. all these huge issues that we face both foreign and domestic, well, the president obviously is totally consumed with attacking his opponents. you know, we're fortunate, we haven't had a major crisis of the magnitude of a 9/11 attack, god forbid we have another one. i wourry about that. the attorney general's preoccupation with this -- i can't recall a case where this much time is expanded personally by the attorney general in evidence gathering in one investigation. >> appreciate it. thank you very much. one of the first members of congress to call for president trump's impeachment, maxine

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she's chair woman of the house financial services committee and has called for president trump's impeachment and became a target of the president. now that the possibility of impeachment is growing, maxine

waters is not holding back. she joins us now. i'm wondering, what is your reaction to the president's broadside against the impeachment inquiry today? he is clearly, i guess, worked up about it would be a conservative way to say it. there's certainly no reason to think that's going to calm down any time soon. >> i don't think so. i think he is really very, very upset about what is happening, because he never thought that we would get to an impeachment inquiry. don't forget, nancy pelosi had been against it and she had basically told him that that was not what she was focused on. she certainly meant that. i think he became even more brazen in what he was doing because he felt like there never was going to be any impeachment of him. i think he is very upset about it. >> in terms of the timing of an impeachment inquiry or actually an impeachment if it came to

that, how important is time for the democrats in this? are you of the school who believes this should proceed as quickly as possible, or are you wanting it to get as many witnesses as possible, perhaps try to convince republicans in the senate to over time move quickly? >> i think the call to the ukrainian president put a lot of facts on the table. we know that he made the call, asked for a favor and basically held up the appropriations for the ukraine. there are a lot of facts in here now. i think it gives us the opportunity to move quickly. and i'm hopeful that our facts will be such that, you know, the republicans will have to fall in line on some of this. the senate will have to, you

know, fall in line on some of this. i do believe that we can do this. i think the house can get to this by the end of the year. >> in a tweet yesterday, you said that you were, quote, calling for the gop to stop trump's fiflthy talk of whistle-blowers and that impe h impeachment is not good enough for trump, that he needs to be imprisoned and solitary confinement. doesn't that hurt your cause just in terms of public sentiment? >> you know what? i think that it is very interesting how oftentimes it is focused on a what one of the members has to say. this president has not only undermined and denounced the press constantly and he's dangerous, he's talked about starting or encouraging a civil

war. now, why aren't we putting more time and effort on unveiling what the president is saying, asking him what do you mean by that? you dog whistling to the white supremacists? i think that's what should be talked about a lot. do you understand how important this is to have the president of the united states talking about a civil war? how dangerous that is? do you know how dangerous it is for the president to talk about what they do to spies and instead of understanding that the whistle-blowers are patriotic people who care about their country, he's calling them spies and then implying that they should be killed. that's what we should be talking about. we don't hear enough about that. the press does not bare down on him on these issues. >> i would encourage you to watch more cnn because i certainly think we talk about those things a lot. there not enough, not enough. i really like you and you do a

good job but you all do not call him to task and make him accountable for what he's saying. >> they're saying that he should be in solitary confinement. you had speaker pelosi today saying that the democratic caucus saying, i'm quoting, let's bring as much dignity, solemnity and save whatever we feel about trump for the election. essentially she's saying to members of the house, you know what, let's not get over our skis on this and let's let the process play out without essentially using that kind of language. >> i think most people who have watched me over the past two years know i am a responsible person who have talked about the constitution, who have talked about the fact that this president does not respect the fact that putin is responsible for basically bugging our electoral system, hacking into the dnc. they know i've been serious about this. i've had the courage to stand up

when nobody else would stand with me. so people know that i'm responsible and that i'm serious and, like i said, that impeachment is the imperative. that's how i ended the sentence. so that's what should be focused on. don't forget, focus on trump and the fact that he's talking about a civil war. everybody should be frightened about that. there are white wing supremacists up in the hills practicing how they're going to have a war against the united states and then you have the president playing into that, dog whistling to that. that's what i want to hear the press talking about. chairwoman waters, thank you. >> i want to check in with chris and see what he's working on for cuomo on "primetime." >> we expose and congress has the job of holding the president to count. tonight we're going to focus on the new wave of what matters.

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just a short time ago, we learned that jane sanders, wife of senator bernie sanders is now with her husband in las vegas.

he experienced what a senior adviser described as chest pains tuesday night. doctors found a blockage in one artery and two stints were successfully inserted. we wish him the best. i'm going to hand it over to chris for cuomo "primetime." >> i can't believe it but there is no, sir dossier in the mix. i irony is staggering and troubling we have new information and people to test about what they're going to do about it. what do you say, let's go after it. another crazy day. the president happy to answer all kinds of questions about how bad the whistle-blower is, how bad the democrats are, all the things that they did and all you into ed to do is look at the perfect call of what he got asked about that call. listen to this.