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another milestone for the united states in space. the first-ever all-female space walk. jessica bier and christina cook ventured outside the international space station for nearly seven and a half hours to change a malfunctioning piece of equipment. tonight they're both back inside the space station and nasa says their spacewalk was a success. thanks for watching. erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next, breaking news. a senior state department official says rudy giuliani pressed the government for a favor for someone promising dirt on democrats. we've got new details on this breaking story this hour, plus why trump allies are reportedly telling him not to fire mick mu mulvaney suggests putin is grooming a 2020 candidate and that candidate firing back tonight. let's go out front. good evening. i'mier irn burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news, another favor. the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani wanted a
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favor from the u.s. government for a former ukrainian official, he wanted to give the official a visa and in exchange he wanted political dirt on democrats. this according to testimony under oath from career diplomat george kent. according to sources familiar with kent's testimony this week, the senior state department official told impeachment investigators that giuliani asked the state department and the white house to grant a visa to the former ukrainian official, the guy that joe biden pushed to have removed when biden was vice president. this comes as president trump is trying to sell an alternate reality as he goes to bat at least publicly for his embattled chief of staff mick mulvaney seeming to insist that mulvaney never up ended the request that the president withheld hundreds of millions in military aid in order to pressure ukraine to investigate his political opponents. just listen to the president. >> mr. president, do you want to clarify what mick mulvaney said
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yesterday? >> i think he clarified it. >> okay. trump's not alone in this world he is now creating. here are some of his staunchest supporters. today you'll hear an echo here. >> what do you think of the acting chief of staff. what he had to say yesterday. >> he clarified his remarks. >> i think mick was very clear in cleaning up his statement, that there was no quid pro quo. >> let's be clear. what mulvaney did was not to clarify or clean up. here's the key line. there was absolutely no quid pro quo between ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election. that is not a clarification. it is not clearing up, but it is a denial and a complete about face, a hope that people will believe it because it is strongly worded even though it says it is the opposite of what mulvaney said in front of millions of people with the cameras rolling repeatedly, combatively and proudly.
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the demand for an investigation into the democrats was part of the reason that he wanted to withhold funding to ukraine. >> the look back to what happened in 2016 was part of the thing that he was worried about. >> what you described is a quid pro quo. it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened, as well. >> we do that all the time with foreign policy. >> there's no clarifying or cleaning it up because, you know, he said what he said and frankly all that mulvaney did was say what trump said himself in the transcript of the phone call with the president of the ukraine. the president brought up military aid and trump asked for a favor investigating the democrats and joe biden. trump actually said this on camera. >> mr. president, what exactly did you hope zelensky would do about the bidens after the phone call, exactly?
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>> well, i would think if they were honest about it that would start a major investigation into the bidens. >> well, i mean, okay. investigate the bidens. he said it. in the face of the fact, trump continues to sell this alternate reality. you know, that mick mulvaney has cleared all this up. a reality that is based now on president trump's most trusted defense. >> this is a terrible witch hunt. this is so bad for our country. >> ahh, the witch hunt, as one republican congressman who hails from a district trump won by 21 points said, quote, i'm very mindful of the fact that back during watergate everyone said it was a witch hunt to get nixon. turns out it wasn't a witch hunt. it was absolutely correct. manu raju is on capitol hill. what are you learning about kent's testimony and what he said about rudy giuliani? >> new details about rudy giuliani's efforts to try to dig up dirt on joe biden and use his
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influence to change a decision made by the federal government. in this closed-door testimony we are told about four sources familiar with the matter that george kent, to get a u.s. visa and former ukrainian prosecutor general to travel to the united states and biden had actually pushed to get shulkin removed from that position and the state department did not grant that visa and then giuliani went and appealed that decision to the white house. the visa never came. giuliani conducted subsequent interviews and those skype interviews records were turned over in the hopes of investigating claims and many of them unsubstantiated about joe biden and hunter biden and marie yavanovic who the president
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later bad-mouthed and that its that's caused a range of controversy over the days and weeks ahead. giuliani has not commented for this story, but in the past he's told our colleague mark warren that he did want to interview shokin to get dirt on the democrats and erin, all of this, giuliani's efforts formed the basis of not just the whistle-blower complaint and also the impeachment probe that is now threatening donald trump's presidency. >> manu, thank you very much. boris sanchez is out front of the white house. you now have testimony, we understand, you know where giuliani is wanting to get a visa in exchange for political dirt. >> we should point out president trump did mention george kent's testimony today and at one point the president trying to spin details about what kent told investigators regarding joe biden, trying to cast this favorably for the white house and again attacking his
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potential 2020 rival. the president at one point adding that he has never met kent and he doesn't really know him, but saying in this case his testimony won't be fake news. it does not appear the president would be aware when he said that kent ultimately testified to regarding the president's personal attorney. of course, in the past the white house has stuck by rudy giuliani even evens as the president has acknowledged that he doesn't know everything that he was doing related to ukraine. we saw the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney in the white house press room saying it was totally appropriate for the president's personal attorney and someone not officially a part of this administration to be handling his foreign policy,ier sn erin? thank you very much. i want to go to jerry connolly who sits on the house oversight and reform committee, one of the committees heading up the impeachment investigation. i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure, erin. >> you know, what did you think when you heard this part of the
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testimony about giuliani trying to get a visa in exchange for dirt on political democrats. >> i'm not going to comment directly on testimony behind closed doors, but let me just say the picture painted by mr. giuliani by a number of witnesses and by what we know in the public is one that is very disturbing and i think giuliani in collusion with president trump is turning the oval office into a cesspool. giuliani's contacts in ukraine are with the shadiest of shady characters, shulkin, leschenko, and other oligarchs not committed to institutions and are corrupt figures in their own right and his association with
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those kinds of characters claiming to represent the president of the united states when he interacts with them and not being contradicted to trump is very troubling. a request like this, if rudy giuliani goes and says -- excuse me, i'm sorry, congressman, i'll try to get you this visa if you give me political dirt, would that be illegal? >> in my opinion, if it's tied to extortion the way the president tied military aid to that cooperation, yes, that's extortion and extortion is a crime. >> so do you think the president of the united states was aware of this, something of this level of granularity and the visa for the dirt? my sense is mr. giuliani keeps donald trump informed of his salacious activities because the president takes interest in it and gets pleasure with hearing the detail, but with respect to
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any specific activities who knows how much donald trump was made aware? but i don't believe donald trump is an innocent operating in the dark victim here. i think he's a colluder with giuliani and i think he aided, abetted and empowered him. >> the president today was talking about the kent testimony, that it was good for him, right? that maybe this would be the first non-fake news, obviously it was before he heard this report. perhaps what he did here, though, is what we understand is that kent said he raised concerns in early 2015 when biden was vice president, that -- that kent had raised concerns about his son being on the ukrainian board and not directly to the vice president, but to a staffer who turned kent away and said, look, his other son is battling cancer. he doesn't have the bandwidth to deal with this. it doesn't sound like from kent's testimony that it ever got to the vice president, but there was a concern about this. does that concern you that there were people involved who did
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think it was inappropriate for joe biden's son to be on that board? >> well, that's not my recollection. my recollection is that concerns were raised about whether vice president biden should go to ukraine and represent the united states at that time, and the reaction was the man is in deep grieving with the illness of his son and the ultimate loss of his son and this is not the time to confront him with the appropriateness of his representing the united states government as he's been asked to do, but again, i can't comment on direct testimony, but my recollection is different from what you described. >> i appreciate you sharing yours as we go through this reporting. i want to ask you one more question if i can, before you go, and the president saying mick mulvaney clarified his
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remarks and you heard jim jordan and they're all coming out, kevin mccarthy, i'm sorry. he was cleaning it up and he was clarifying it, that he didn't admit to a quid pro quo even though he did. are you clear on what happened? >> i think all of us are clear on what happened, and i think you kind of put your finger on it in your reporting on it in just a few minutes ago, erin. we heard it with our own eyes and heard it with our own ears and they're gaslighting, the classic gaslighting and don't believe what you witnessed, believe what i tell you and there's an orwellian quality to this that is mind blowing, but he said what he said. he admitted flat out in public in front of lots of witnesses there was a quid pro quo and then he went on to say get over it, and i don't know how you walk back or take back those words. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman. i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure, erin. thank you. >> next, trump allies reportedly
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correspondent for the atlantic who broke the story. elena plot, former nixon counsel john dean and nick brower, assistant director of the fbi and a former state senator in nevada. let me start with you, elena, is trump scared that mick mulvaney can turn on him if he fires him? >> erin, i haven't been told of a specific fear of mulvaney. what i have been told is allies are telling trump that what happened with bolton which is to say details leaking of him, you know, issuing scathing criticisms of trump and his foreign policy behind closed doors have, in fact, rattled him and made him re-think his policy of flippantly casting off advisers and then trashing them by tweet as he polls advisers inside and outside the white house, whether he should keep mulvaney. this is what they're responding. do you want john bolton redocs? and at this press conference we
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know how much mick mulvaney knows about everything that has happened too that phone call to the ukrainian president thus far. >> that's certainly true. by the way, we don't even yet know how much damage john bolton can do. >> exactly. >> to your point the risks here could be extremely big. john, you, of course, is the person who told the truth about president nixon and as elena points out trump has fired a lot of people in nasty and derogatory ways. will someone with big information here flip? >> well, it's hard to know for certain. i've been hopeful for several people coming out and telling the truth. it hasn't happened, but i think he is in a hard and very difficult position for mulvaney who knows a lot more than what he's said in the press room and in my own experience, nixon could not remove either me or his chief of staff and his top domestic adviser because i told him i really wouldn't go unless
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they went. i knew that was necessary to solve his problems. so he is in a difficult position. >> so, greg, you know mulvaney issued the order or the formal order and now he said that that order was a quid pro quo. how much more could mulvaney know about? >> erin, there is more that he needs to know as the chief of staff should be at the middle of virtually everything that's happening in the white house and everything that the president is doing and thinking, so he should know everything and this clearly was a quid pro quo and the idea that he tried to walk it back is obviously not passing the smell test or believeability, the believability test with anybody, but just think of how dysfunctional a white house would be if the chief of staff, the acting chief of staff is only there because the president is afraid to fire him?
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i mean, that's dysfunction at a level that is hard to imagine. it's unsustainable. >> david, what do you say? unsustainable and does president trump need mick mulvaney now more than mulvaney needs him? >> i think it's unsustainable to have him there on that point. on balance, i think it's a tough call what the president does and there's certainly a strong case for letting him go. clearly, this was his first press conference with the press as elaine has reported and it certainly should be his last and the president -- if the president doesn't have confidence in him it is hard to keep him. i would think, on balance i would say keep him and there are a couple of reasons and one is, this is a white house that is a dysfunctional place already to replace the chief of staff in the midst of this crisis to have someone come out as fresh is inviting more chaos in the white house and you would want to keep the second point and very
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briefly is the person who is the principal cause of trump's troubles is not mull vavaney. it's the president himself. >> that is a point, john. every single person who has testified so far has made it clear that all roads made it to rudy giuliani and also ultimately to donald trump. is there any way to insulate the president at this point and even for those who would be inclined to do so? >> he doesn't seem willing to accept that, erin. he's removed everybody who was strong enough to stand up and advise him. so i'm told that mulvaney really is a chief of staff in the sense that the president says do something and he will implement it. he doesn't invite debate or dispute or examination of the wisdom of what he's suggesting and just implement it. so i think that that is a situation that if he gets a new chief of staff, he won't change.
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>> publicly, the president praised mulvaney after the briefing and now he's saying he clarified it, but he is doing it in a way that his word choice sounds oddly familiar. here it is. >> mick is a good man. >> i like mr. bennett. he is a good man. he is not a racist. i can tell you that. he's a good person. >> tom price is a very good man, i can tell you. >> the good man, elena, right? bannon was fired. tom price resigned the same day and there was a lot of criticism coming from the president. i mean, you know, look, words are words, but when he says mick is a good man does that kind of show that he's flashing code red? >> i mean, here's the thing, decoding trump's words in that manner would take far longer than we have in this program. what i can report is that advisers are strongly urging trump to keep mick mulvaney in place and whether he heeds that
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advice is different entirely. >> he said he was directed by president trump to work with rudy giuliani on ukraine. today perry tried to defend the president even though he resigned. i wanted to play his defense for you. >> as the governor of texas i use people outside of government all of the time to give me information, experts. i respect the state department, but i happen to know people in the energy industry that are smarter than the state department folks. i didn't see a problem with that at all. >> greg, do you see ag do ther is apples and oranges. he may be talking about something that was perfectly legitimate when he was governor of texas, but this is very different. there clearly was a conspiracy of sorts to do this on a wholly ukrainian deal and the bigger problem, i think, that is going to plague the white house now and those around the white house is that to the extent people are
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lying about it, it's the -- it's the old cover-up is worse than the underlying crime and that's the next step to this. >> all of you please stay with me and now the republican lawmaker is now ruling out impeachment. >> it certainly is very, very serious, and hillary clinton pushing a theory about a 2020 presidential candidate. why? >> i think they've got their eye on someone who is currently in the democratic primary. she's a favorite of the russians. pain happens.
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new tonight, a sitting republican congressman not buying the latest spin from the white house. francis rooney telling cnn the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney admitted that american aid to ukraine was held up as part of a quid pro quo. >> whatever might have been gray and unclear before is certainly quite clear rid now that the actions were related to getting the ukraine to doing some of these things. it's certainly serious and troubling. >> this is a critic of president trump and john kasich said today that the first time he supports impeachment and no fan of the president, but he has repeatedly resisted impeachment calls in the past. here's kasich. >> this behavior, in my opinion, cannot be tolerated and action is going have to be taken. if i was sitting in the house of representatives today and you were to ask me how do i feel? do i think impeachment should
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move forward and should go for a full examination in a trial of the united states senate my vote would be yes. >> everyone is back with me. do you think this week could be the week when more republicans will say enough is enough does support impeachment? >> congressman rooney, his district went for trump by 21 points and he came out and said it is loud and clear that this was a quid pro quo. is a crack in the dam. there's a trend tha president. the general public opinion is increasing and favoring an impeachment inquiry and some are even saying removal so congress is getting into the same mood of its constituents. i think this is the beginning of a trend the president is going to not be happy with at all. >> david? >> i do think the trend is move
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against the president and i don't think it will break in significant numbers. what i think is going on and it is very important is that we are learning that the effort on ukraine, the president was obsessed with this. he got two cabinet officers involved. he got people over at the state department and got rudy giuliani. it sounds like he's spent a good deal of his time trying to get this done. that makes the impeachment issue more serious. it was a strong, organized effort and i do think it's for the general public to have this terrible mistake he made on the kurds and the foreign policy and the other things that are piling up and the brazenness to go with doral with g7 and all of those things are beginning to congeal into a mess that the public is not happy that a lot of people will still stick with trump and i can tell you it makes the whole thing, the whole presidency, it raises all sorts
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of questions about fitness. >> elena, do you think the comments, when the president starts to hear things like congressman rooney, right? we know how mad he got with romney, he lashes out. now you have rooney speaking out. no fan of the president and he hasn't been for impeachment until now. do these things start to aerng the froms and start to anger him? >> i do think it angers the president someone like kasich or romney. remember, kasich really is emble emblematic of the old guard, republican party establishment that trump was so elated with himself for having defeated in 2016. so it wouldn't surprise me at all if at 5:00 a.m. we see an all-caps tweet lambasting him for his comments. i don't, based on my conversation since rooney's comments, i don't know that president trump will address them. rooney is not someone that he has a particularly close
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relationship with. >> but with someone like kasich who he has pretty cemented feelings for, it wouldn't surprise me at all to hear him comment. >> ari fleischer was very critical today of trump's phone call with ukraine's president and he's been a trump defend or many, many issues and i want to play for you what he said in full today. >> the problem here and this goes to the original call the president said to zelensky. if it was only what he and mulvaney talked about, and once you bring in the name of your opponent, john biden, hunter biden and the 2016 election, you've gone beyond corruption. >> he's gone beyond corruption and yet, ari does not think it doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense. what do you say at this point when people like ari fleischer are saying it's correct, it crossed the line and not impeachable. >> i have great respect for ari
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and i saw him at an event last week for president bush, and the republicans are struggling with this and they're for the most part trying to find the sweet shot and call him out or go for impeachment. the cumulative effect of these issues are starting to congeal, to make metaphors and eventually mick mulvaney will in a fit of frustration will simply blurt out the truth of what they really think about this. rest assured that despite the congealing of the current issues there will be more issues. we're likely to see virtually every day another shoe drop in the cumulative effect of all of that inevitably is going to cause more republicans to come out and speak out. >> and look, obviously, the inquiry at this point is focused on ukraine, right? they're not trying to mix in russia with other things and
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they could change that. david mentioned other things this congealing as you just referred to and the g7 summit and mulvaney announced that it will be held at the doral golf resort and something that defies reality and they looked in a dozen places and no other thing than being qualified and that's absurd on its face when you look around this country. number one, and it's at cost so they're not going to make money and the even at cost is going to help them and help the president's bottom line and those are the facts. so is this something that will get to republicans or will they blindly defend him on that, too, john? >> well, it is building up and the reaction was negative before he even did it and he floated on the g7 before he might do this and there was a reaction by democrats and a few republicans said no, he would not go that far, but he did.
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>> it does seem, greg, final word to you that until republicans tell him it's too far he will keep going. >> and perhaps even past that, erin. it's going to take something more than a few republicans and it's going to take a similar situation to what we saw in watergate where a group of republican leaders will say enough is enough, time's up. >> thank you all. next hillary clinton floating a theory that put in is grooming presidential candidate. >> she's a favorite of the russians and they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so par. >> that candidate firing back in a way. despite clashes today on the turkey-syria border. >> we've had tremendous success, i think, over the last couple of days. a little bit unconventional. a little bit of hard love.
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>> tonight hillary clinton pushes her own russia conspiracy theory. in a recent podcast clinton says russians are grooming a between 20 presidential contender. that candidate is tulsi gabbard. here is hillary clinton. >> i'm not making any prediction, but i think they've got their eye on someone who is currently in the democratic primary and are grooming her to
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be the third-party candidate. she's a favorite of the russians. they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming jill stein might give it up, but she might not because she's also a russian asset. ? okay. just a fact, huh? tulsi gabbard is a russian asset and jan stein is a russian asset. that's how she puts it out there. i mean -- >> she's playing a very dangerous game. hillary concerned about this information and to spread disinformation, that is what just happened, just throw out some information, disinformation, smear somebody. she is hillary clinton. she's a legend. she's going to be in the history books and she's a former nominee of our party and she just came out against a sitting u.s. congresswoman, a decorated war
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veteran and someone running for the nomination of our party with a complete smear and no facts. >> she called hear a russian asset. a sitting u.s. congresswoman. >> there is a back story and there are two sides to every story. let's not forget, tulsi gabbard was picked out by the democratic party and put at the top of the dnc. they thought she was going to be their golden girl and she got that position and she looked around and saw debbie wasserman schulze and other people, clinton allies doing stuff they shouldn't be doing in the primary and tulsi publicly quit and endorsed bernie sanders and it's been payback hell ever since. >> gabbard responded with a tweet storm. thank you, hillary clinton, you, the queen of war monthers and embodiment of the rot that has sickened the democratic party have finally come out from behind the curtain and there's been a concerted campaign to
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destroy my reputation and we wondered who was behind it, now we know it was always you and behind the corporatia and the war machine. don't cowardly hide behind your proxies. join the race directly. uh. >> it's getting kind of hot and this is the problem. we're headed down this spiral staircase. you had pelosi and trump, whoever you claim, you can't be proud of america when you have food fights breaking out in the white house between the top leadership. we can't be proud when we can't have a primary without the former nominee jumping out of a podcast. we have real problems in america, and i'm telling you, hillary clinton is playing a very dangerous game. i do not want someone of her stature to legit mate these attacks against anybody. >> if you're going to smear people casually on podcasts you are playing into the russians'
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hands. >> russians can be backing someone and this is very different from calling a person a russian asset. >> it's really, really disappointing. >> all right. van, thank you very much. and next, senator mitch mcconnell not letting up on his criticism of the president calling his decision to withdraw tro troops from syria a grave mistake and a giant leap by two astronauts making history. ht jo, so employees like dave can achieve what they're working for.
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tonight, president trump continues to tout the cease-fire in syria despite reports of ongoing fighting. >> we're doing very, very well with turkey. there's a cease-fire or a pause or whatever you want to call it. there was some sniper fire this morning. tlrt mortar fire this morning that was eliminated quickly and they're back to the full pause. we've had tremendous success, i think, over the last couple of days. a little bit unconventional. a little bit of hard love. >> moments ago the president
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tweeting that the cease-fire saved, quote, thousands and thousands and many more lives. mitch mcconnell called it a huge strategic mistake. joining us now, the ambassador who has s in tremendous success and saving thousands and thousands and many more lives. your reaction. >> it's a tremendous success for turkey, for russia, for the regime in damascus and for iran. it is a very grave setback for us and certainly for our kurdish allies. >> so ambassador, we understand isis militants were released from prisons as the turks attacked and no one knows how many. that appears to be extremely uncareer. the president's team tried to imply the kurd were releasing them. cnn confirmed that is false,
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that's not what the u.s. military believes. and the president talked about isis today. here is what he said. >> we have isis totally under guard. frederic is also guarding separately -- near watching over everything. we have isis under control. >> do you think that is true, ambassador? >> erin, we don't have anything under control. we have left the area in a precipitous fashion kind of a route. i can tell you there are some very, very unmaep american troopers out there that feel that they have -- they've been dishonored, that not only did any leave an ally in the face of relentless enemy, they did so on a notice of a few hours. so there is nothing we're doing there anymore because we're not there. if the kurds continue to guard
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that camp i'd be amazed. near fighting for their lives right now. and i would not expect a whole lot from turkey. because if you remember for a couple of years there they were basically doing nothing to stop islamic state infiltration over there border into syria. so the president is in a reality of his own that does not match what's going on on the ground to say the least. >> he is sort of in a flippant way likens what happening no syria to a schoolyard fight. i wanted to play that for you, ambassador here he is. >> sometimes you have to let them fight a little while then people find out how tough the fighting is these guys no right up here. these guys know. sometimes you have to let them fight. like two kids in a lot. you got to let them fight and then you pull them apart. >> so he equates it a fight between kids. and ambassador, i just want it -- dsh i know you have seen this i want our viewers to see process because some of the video i'm about to show is
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extremely graphic. because of what the president said and between kids and fight it out. i felt it was important to be viewer this is believed to be a turkish blacked militants attacked this vehicle. kicking her ded body. a cuddish leader. it's horrific. 300,000 people displaced pb 70,000 children since this offense from turkey started. civilians can killed. turkey openly claims it's killed hundreds of kurd irk soldiers american allies. when you hear the president like that talk bag a in the lot and kids and pull them apart how do you feel about it. >> it's sickening. it makes me sick. the spt president has a no concept what have a real fight it he's never been in one never been real one. the kurds stood with us and paid
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a high price. thousands of kurdish fighters killed. that's not a school yard fight. and this is how we repay them. we're done, going home. leaving in 30 minutes, goodbye, good luck. they are fighting to your for in re lives and running for their lives. that is a -- not exactly a school yard fight. >> yeah, and i want to ask you before we go something former defense secretary jim mattis said last night, responding at a dinner, a dinner where you are supposed to -- make joems. he was responding to the president mo had called mattis the world's most overrated general. that's what the president said about jim mattis this week and here is what jim mattis said at the al green. dinner >> i earned my spurs on the battlefield, martin as you pointed out and donald trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor. and the only person in the
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military donald trump doesn't think is overrate the colonel sanders. >> what do you think of the general's comments after the president called him the most overrated general. >> i've had the privilege of knowing jim mattis a number of years. he and i are both from the aim part of eastern washington. there's never been a finer marine to wear the uniform. he has proved it time and time again in the fight. what he said light at heartedly also goes right to the point. he did his -- earn his spurs as did dom a craven who had a brilliant op-ed in "the new york times" in morning. and if the president ever reassociated with reality he would know that. that is why they are both i think just furious over this, as i am what is going on now with the troops that were in syria and ordered to abandon allies. >> ambassador crocker, i
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appreciate your time thanks again, sir. >> thank you. >> and outfront next, a day for history in outer space. >> where are we are flying over it's beautiful. >> we are flying over the middle east.
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a day to remember for the first time an all-female space walk. american astronauts. christina cooke and jessia meir left the international space station to replace a failed battery unit. cooke and meir the 13th and 14th american women to complete space walks. the first woman in space was russian valentin that back in 9 19, 20 years before america's sally ride. but meir and cooke are members of the 2013 astronaut corps, the first astronaut class in the
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country to be 50% women it's great to celebrate the space bach walk but it's about time not to celebrate the things because they shouldn't be unusual. of course one of the astronauts said is best. jessica meir said get we hope we can provide inspiration to everyone, not just every woman who has a dream. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening, we begin with breaking news. more damaging testimony in the ukraine affair. another indication of how badly president trump's personal attorney wanted to obtain dirt on the president's political rivals. the news follows two weeks of other testimony that taken together lays out the parties parts and pieces of what is a wide ranging sustained intense i havive campaign to get a foreign government to do the president's personal political bidding in exchange for badly needed military assistance. and of course this comes at the end of a day of damage control after the president's own acting chief of staff conceded yesterday that, yes, there was a quid pro quo with ukraine.
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